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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSNZali-jIk2MASsAWVf8N7A8BlSyzPbAFV_BhsA5Ip3SWfMPWKxaXf8Pdb7f0TgFyWis31BzirtPeR/pubhtml


>Advice for Noobs!

##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##

Running your story like the business it is:
www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847

On writing web serials:
alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/

Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLY

Recommended web novels
rentry.co/d2yvczro

Anon's guide to success
rentry.co/RRBasicGuide

FAQ
rentry.co/pytefpxn
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archmage more like arch- more li- more like... more like arch... DORK
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post soulful covers
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I hate it when all these isekai transmigration stories hinge on their first interaction with another human being completely altruistic. Just started a new story, MC appears out of nowhere, and a random villager just gives MC room and board, clothes, a weapon, complete trust. Kills my motivation to keep reading.
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>>25234528
It's surprisingly more believable than you'd think. I watch a travel vlogger who routinely shittalks people in random out-of-nowhere areas that have never even seen a white guy and very often they'll bend over backwards to be hospitable.

More shockingly, many parts of Africa are on the list of places this has happened.

India was not one of them though lol
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>>25234521
>author uploads a pic of them holding the cover
ludokino
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>>25234533
Maybe; if it were me, I'd definitely be amenable to altruism. But relying on it in a story is cheap and uninteresting. To have your first interaction be devoid of conflict is lazy and uninspired.
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Anyone have any power/progression space faring recs? I’m hard up here and having a hell of a time trying to find something that scratches the itch. I want to cast a wide net here but anything with base/empire building, ship upgrades, fleet combat, marine boarding, planetary invasions, sci-fantasy are like crack to me when it hits right.

Three series I really like in this vein are Three Square Meals, Monster Girls in Space and Alice Long. There’s also Challengers Call and Drone Rising as well.
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>>25234544
Those are femc shit, but going to back to your question, I find power progression/litrpg/cultivation and scifi a weird mix that just does not work.
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>>25234544
If you're fine with male mc harem you try the translation of Reborn as a Space Mercenary
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>>25234549
kill yourself TODAY
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>>25234573
Rude.
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>>25234544
ShipCore
Humanity’s Janissaries
Escaping Gravity
A Young Girl's War Between the Stars
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>>25234544
Titan Hoppers, Rob J. Hayes. The last remnants of humanity live in cramped ships orbiting a giant space station that's been taken over by monsters.

Stargazer's War (first book is titled To Flail Against Infinity). Space laborer cultivates using dark matter or something and gets sent to a sect which doesn't know he's doing unorthodox shit.

Renegade Ravager. More harem shit than progression but getting new bitches is also progression I guess. Discount Spess Marine gets exiled but crashes somewhere in the warp.

Those all have proper (i.e. male) main characters.
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Friendly reminder that chapter 1 is the most important chapter you will ever write.
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This is the same autistic anon that asked about the metric measuring system in unique worlds a couple of threads of ago.
Do you anons also use a unique "time system" for your fantasy worlds too? Instead of days you call it [x] and so on and so forth. My world consists of a different star system, but I don't want to confuse the reader.
Should I just make my own timetable for measuring lengths of time? Time is very important in my story.
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>>25234533
>India was not one of them though lol
They already fell for that one 400 years ago
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>>25234620
stop talking about this sort of shit and actually write a chapter you nincompoop
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Idea: Gal Mercenary In Another World
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Any favorite regression/time loop sloppa? I can't stop reading this stuff
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“From this day forth, you are no son of this house. A waste like you has no place here. Gather your things and get out of my sight.”
At the matriarch’s – my mother’s – command, the female guards seized my arms and flung me beyond the mansion gates as though I weighed nothing.
“And don’t ever come back,” my sister added, tossing a bundle of rags after me.
“Hey! At least let me keep my good clothes!” I protested.
“A dumb ape like you doesn’t need clothes. They’ll serve better as kindling.” She stuck out her tongue before slamming the gates shut.
“You little…!” The rest dissolved into a string of curses hurled at the unfeeling doors until my voice gave out. At last, I sank onto the dirt road.
I kept my eyes lowered, ignoring the mix of pity and contempt in the gazes of passersby.
And to think I used to share my candied hawthorn with her. Ungrateful brat.
A memory surfaced, from when I was the proud young master of the Fem clan, before I became a joke in my own home, treated no better than a stray dog.
My chest tightened. Heat burned behind my eyes. Damn it. Damn it all. Just because I couldn’t cultivate the clan’s Archmage arts, I had lost even my own name.
How was it my fault that I couldn’t turn into a femboy?!
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>>25234673
I glanced down at my flat chest and hardening limbs, biting my lip.
The moment I hit puberty, my body began twisting into the grotesque shape of a man, and everything changed. The way they looked at me. The way they spoke to me.
The Fem clan was a lineage of Yin cultivators, masters of the Fem Archmage arts. Every child born into the clan grew into a peerless beauty, regardless of sex. My uncle, for instance, was the emperor’s most favored eunuch and the court’s foremost mage.
But me…
My once pale, jade-smooth skin had turned coarse and sprouted hair. My limbs, once soft, hardened and thickened in ways that made my own reflection unbearable. The elegant silk robes I once wore now looked absurd draped over this body.
What had I done to deserve this?
I followed the clan’s regimen without fail. One thousand push-ups, one thousand sit-ups, one thousand squats every day. I even chained weights to my limbs to push myself further. But not only did my body refuse to slim down, I also lost the ability to cultivate the very feminine arts I once excelled at.
The heavens truly delighted in tormenting the diligent.
“Boy!”
A roar, followed by a heavy slap on my shoulder, snapped me out of my thoughts.
I looked up and froze.
Before me stood the largest, most muscular man I had ever seen. White hair, white beard, bushy brows shadowing narrow eyes. His taut gray robe strained against a chest broader than any normal man’s.
I stared, stunned.
“I can sense great potential within you, boy,” he said, his stone-like fingers wrapping around my arm. I shuddered. “Yes, very good. Very good! You are young, yet you possess the body of a hardened warrior. With proper guidance, you will go far in the art of Body Cultivation.”
Body Cultivation. The path of brutes.
“N-no, senior, I’m not…”
My protest was cut short as the old man burst into booming laughter and hoisted me up with one hand.
“Call me Master, boy! From this day forth, you are my direct disciple. I will make a real man out of you yet. Come, I will show you our sect!”
With a powerful kick, he shot into the sky, dragging me along in his grip.
My scream faded into the clouds.
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>>25234673
kino
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>>25234675
“Is he gone yet?”
A beautiful young face peeked out from behind the Fem clan’s gates. She scanned the empty road, eyes darting left and right, then finally exhaled.
“Mother… Brother is… sniff… Brother is gone.”
She turned back.
The great matriarch of the Fem clan, the world’s strongest archmage, stood clutching her handkerchief, biting down on it as tears streamed freely down her face.
Around her, the women of the clan were no better. Some sobbed openly. Others turned away, shoulders trembling.
“Good… that’s good,” the matriarch said between shaky breaths. “Little He… doesn’t belong here. He’s becoming too… too handsome for his own good!”
“Right!” several voices echoed at once. “If he stayed any longer, the balance of Yin in the clan would collapse!”
“And those muscles…” One elder swallowed hard. “So many maidens developed heart demons because of him.”
“And his face,” another added, fanning herself. “That sharp jawline… We had to post guards just to keep people from sneaking into his courtyard at night!”
“It was getting out of control,” someone muttered. “Three disciples failed their breakthroughs this month alone!”
“One even tried to abandon cultivation entirely!” another cried. “She said she wanted to follow her heart!”
The crowd shuddered.
The matriarch pressed a hand to her chest, forcing her breathing to steady.
“We had no choice. If he remained… it would have ruined him. And us.”
Her daughter hesitated. “Mother, do you think Brother will be all right?”
The matriarch fell silent for a moment.
“Wherever he ends up should be better than here,” she said at last. Then her gaze sharpened. “You gave him the treasure as I instructed, yes?”
“Of course!” her daughter nodded quickly. “The bundle I gave him contains a spatial pouch. Inside are weapons, spirit stones, protective talismans, healing pills, and even a defensive artifact. He won’t lack for anything.”
The matriarch let out a long breath, some tension leaving her shoulders.
“Good. Then even if he suffers, he will at least survive.”
Neither of them noticed the faint rustle far down the road.
In a muddy ditch, half-hidden among weeds, a ragged bundle lay abandoned. One corner had come undone, revealing the faint glimmer of a storage talisman, before it sank entirely into the muck.
Thus sealed the fate of one ex-femboy who was destined to become a real man, regardless of his opinion on the matter.
“LET ME GO, OLD MAN! I SAID LET ME GOOOOO!!”
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Such a nice evil protagonist novel—too bad the author dropped it.
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My shit's pending on RR, wish me luck or tell me to kill myself.
At least the cover is fire.
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>>25234672
What have you read already?
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>>25234702
May you get a big audience, friend.
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>>25233696
this is just post apoc native isekai slop except every page there's a ghost woman who looks like she wants to fuck the MC
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>>25234711
MoL, RToC, Reborn: Apocalypse.
I gave years of the apocalypse a try too but I don't like it very much 100 chapters in so I dropped it.
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>>25234680
>the pouch twist
I hate this.
But it's good.
But starting with femboyism is retarded
But then it made sense.

It's good. Just from that much, I'd give it a follow and read at least a few chapters.
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>>25234723
anon do not fucking start avatarfagging, you can get away with linking your post once but this shit is getting slightly ridiculous
do not incur the wrath of the schizos in this general
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>>25234728
> I don't like it very much 100 chapters in so I dropped it.
Did you reach her return to the village and the actual Apocalypse part?
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>>25234737
Sorry I just liked the crab picture. I'll avoid that in the future.
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>>25234672
Return of Mount Hua Sect. Though it's not typical regression. He comes back 100 years after his lifetime and finds his sect fucked up.
>>25234731
nta but what's wrong with the pouch thing? It demonstrates that hes going to have to go all in on whatever the old man teaches him. Also opens up the possibility of the mom finding out in the future he doesn't have it and coming to bring him back and maybe he has to fight his own mom the most powerful archmage. Would be kino.
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>>25234744
>Return of Mount Hua Sect.
I've read this one. It's pretty good. The writing style gets really repetitive sometimes though.
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>>25234672
Apocalypse: Regression
Apocalypse Redux
Project Stellar
Reborn: Apocalypse
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>>25234744
I said it was good. I hate it because it's an extremely sharp and strong hook, and now I really care about everyone involved in your story so far. I'm a sucker for misunderstandings.

The pouch thing is actually excellent and I had to go back and re-read the beginning to see if it was thrown out and if he had it when he got yanked away. So instead of having nepobaby resources now he had to earn what he gets, but his family still cares they're just a bit retarded and lack communication.

My only real critique of the story is the femboyism. That was a point where I almost stopped reading right there, because it read like fetish bullshit. Maybe put the yin cultivation stuff FIRST so that I know there's a reason for it and it's not just fetishfuel. But by the end of that third post I understood what was going on and had suspended disbelief so it's a really strong opening other than the slightly too early introduction of femboyism.
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>>25234665
I'd read it.
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>>25234620
>no serious replies
Please, anons...
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>>25234512
Any superhero web novels I can read? Or is it only Worm?
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>>25234862
Read Archetype, it's made from an anon from here, and it's kino
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>>25234857
1st reply was fpbp thougbeit, about as serious as it can get. Don't have anything you described; writing a space opera where most is set on ships or o'neil cylinders+planet surfaces, so I just leave time explicitly vague outside of a one-off mention of a tombstone date. that's about it. passage of time and how much time passed between any given chapter is left intentionally vague.
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>>25234665
Only if you write her dialogue and inner thoughts in an accurate sparkleuwu writing style.
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>>25234883
This is how you make yourself suicidal.
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>>25234620
As one of the people who answered that post, yes.
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>>25234890
>omggg heyyy~ just got isekai'd into this fantasy world and i'm already slaying orcs like it's nothing!! my makeup is still flawless even after chopping heads off, yabai right?? this sword coord is sooo fire tho, totally agepoyo!! who needs heroes when u got a gal merc like me~ maji don't underestimate the tan and the attitude bitch!! (ω)
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>>25234895
This is my suicide note if I ever followed on that idea.
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>>25234528
Isn’t it strange how in Western WNs the first people the MC meets tend to be altruistic, but in Eastern WNs the first people the MC meets tend to be malicious towards the MC?
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>>25234905
your gyaru spirit is weak
consider starting light with valley girl isekai instead
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>>25234907
Eastern cultures don't have an understanding of selflessness/altruism beyond communitarianism.
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>>25234908
I like gyaru women to observe. Similarly to how I like to observe animals in the wilderness, like chickens. But if I had to live with the brain of a chicken, I think I'd kill myself fast.
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>>25234665
>>25234883
>>25234890
>Oh my staws! The gumpy-wumpy man is wushing over to give Mimi a big, stwong huggie-wuggie! He has a shiny silver toy in his hand. Is it a magic wand? Does he want to make magic happen with me? I hope it is sparkle magic!
>Mimi twirled on the balls of her feet, her petticoats flaring out in a dizzying circle of lace. The sword hissed through the air, missing her neck by a fraction of an inch. She giggled, a high, tinkling sound that grated against the thunder overhead.
>"Die, you little freak!" Amarac roared, swinging a heavy, mud-caked boot at her ribs.
>He is dancing! Such big, heavy steps! Stomp, stomp, stomp goes the gumpy-wummy man! He wants to pway tag with his toesies. Well, Mimi is the bestest at tag! Time for a wittle boop on his wittle tummy-wummy!
>She swung the warhammer in a low, horizontal arc. His tibia shattered into fragments. Amarac screamed, his leg folding at an impossible angle as he collapsed into the muck.
>Oopsie-woopsie! I touched him a wittle bit too hard! But look! When his leggy-weggy went pop pop, it made a beautiful fountain of ruby-red glitter! It is so shiny and wawm! Weaking pwecious jewels just for me, because we are best fwiends now!
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>>25234895
LITO
>>25234908
Slipping too much into actual valley girl would be my worry
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>>25234918
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>>25234914
Tied to the guilt-shame dichotomy and face culture, by the way. Good and evil tends to be portrayed on a spectrum of righteous vs. unrighteous in the East vs. moral vs. immoral in the West. Ends vs. means.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilt%E2%80%93shame%E2%80%93fear_spectrum_of_cultures
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>Someone finally offers to do a shoutout swap
>400+ chapters of actual slop
I'm now realizing this is the Tinder phenomenon where all the people interested are the ones who aren't really "attractive" (marketable).
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>>25233494
>considering whether to read the elf story
I didn't actually know which one this was.
The ones I liked where 12 miles below, lotm, and mother of learning.
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>>25234936
I'll do a shoutout swap if you want.
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>>25234964
It's not that I really am desperate for one, it's that I've always seen people asking for them and no one ever offering. If I were really down bad for it I would more openly beg instead of making indirect revelations. I might get desperate for it once I finish the Wordathon tho.
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>>25234964
>>25234965
Well the offer is open to anyone in the thread.
>https://www.royalroad.com/profile/539840
Just message me on RR so you don't have to deanon yourself.
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>>25234929
This is an oversimplification.
Japs are a shame culture but they still feel guilt and are motivated by guilt.
There's also a huge flaw in purely guilt based culture, they are open playgrounds for psychopaths.
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I did it. I added a short high fashion arc to my story. I can already hear the readers' complaints lmao
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>>25234983
>feel guilt and are motivated by guilt
Examples of this on the cultural/societal level? For instance, what aspects of Shinto or Buddhist thought have to do with guilt vs. the centrality of Western Christian thought's focus on it? This post is clearly coping toward inserting Japan into a framework of Western morality without all Western morality's baggage, as if Japan didn't produce Junko Furuta's killers or suicide bomber culture under the name of kamikaze.
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>>25234968
You have 37 followers yet somehow 8 reviews
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What are gu?
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>>25234665
Needs to be in third person unless (you) yourself are a gal. And staceys are too busy getting fucked by chads to write.
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>>25235057
Most are swaps
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>>25235065
Depends on which setting you're talking about, usually & historically its some fucked up form of poison involving insects, usually you toss 100 venomous centipedes in a jar and then you take the last one assuming the venom concentrated or something along those lines.
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>>25235078
Does this mean all of the reviews are from fellow anons?
Hmm...
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>>25235079
it's a bot post, ignore it next time.
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>>25235057
sounds like review swaps
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>>25235057
>>25235098
>guy asks for review swaps in the thread
>hmm must be a review swapper
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>>25235102
Proof?
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>>25235102
i'm not accusing, just observing
obviously someone with a disproportionate number of reviews is a swapper, but some people here don't know what that is
i am also a swapper so it's not exactly hypocritical of me to point this out
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>>25235128
Review swaps aren't even helpful, why whore yourself and waste your time like that
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>>25235133
people glance at star ratings and see it's above 4.5 and assume it must be good
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>>25235135
The vast majority of people don't look at rating or reviews at all
The ones who do aren't going to be fooled by obvious review swapping
Somewhat tangential, Dungeon Diver has a 3.6 rating and 13000 followers
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>>25235150
>The vast majority of people don't look at rating or reviews at all
really? I assumed it was the first thing people looked at after the cover, title and tags; anything below a 4 isn't worth reading or something
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>>25235088
They aren't.
>>25235102
It didn't offer review swaps, I offered shoutout swaps.
>>25235133
>>25235135
Your rating, the number of reviews, and followers contribute to the algo, and story rank.
This impacts the algo so much, there is a rule about review swaps only being advanced reviews (of all review categories and 200 or more words, to prevent either reviewer from getting short changed.
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>>25235154
People look at the title and cover, mostly. Lots don't even read the blurb before trying chapter 1. The median reader isn't that discerning, they just check if it has the right tags/vibe and then go straight into chapter 1.
I mean, look at how many stories have gross review swapping going on and then no engagement. Like the one we're talking about. 8 reviews, 4.81 rating, and 37 followers. Obviously it's not pulling anyone in.
>>25235155
>contribute to the algo
Your rating does not contribute to the RS algo at all.
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In all realities if we isekaied we would be no different from illegal Mexican migrant who can't speak or write so picks oranges for 1 dollar an hour. We wouldn't end up as a hero , mage or even get a waifu. If you wanna know how hard it is to integrate yourself into new area imagine illegal migrant who jumped border and is being exploited by his owner. We would all most likely end up being slave too scared , confused and timid to go out of our comfort zones.
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>>25235162
>Your rating does not contribute to the RS algo at all.
this is cope
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>>25235175
The admins confirmed it. Quantity of interaction is all that matters. So 8 reviews matters but 8 good or bad changes nothing. A 1.2 star does as good as 5.0, all else equal
Moreover the RS algo has ~20 metrics, or so Kana says. Faking 1 of those 20 will do nothing if you aren't also getting the views, followers, favorites, etc
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>>25235179
Then why does your ranking drop if a reviewer who has already reviewed changes their rating?
Have you considered that the admin might have been lying to you to muddy the waters as to how the algo works?
What benefit does an admin have in giving you correct information about the operation of the site's metrics?
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>>25235189
>Then why does your ranking drop if a reviewer who has already reviewed changes their rating?
Your ranking is not the RS algorithm... that's your ranking
>What benefit does an admin have in giving you correct information about the operation of the site's metrics?
He's just a guy and he chats in the Order, this isn't a Machiavellian plot brother. It's some tiny niche site run by like 5 people
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>>25235162
>>25235179
>>25235196
I missed the part where you mentioned RS 3 times, I wasn't talking about Rising Stars.
Please disregard the fact that I suck cocks.
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>>25235216
Out of curiosity then, what algorithm were you even talking about? There's isn't another algorithm
The weighted score rankings?
Those don't matter until you're in the top 500 or so. Nobody is going to page 36 to find a new story to read
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>>25235224
I was talking about rankings.
Yeah, you're right, the star ratings have nothing to do with rising stars.
But the rating does help list your story above others when users are searching.
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>>25235227
>But the rating does help list your story above others when users are searching.
Does going from page 598 to page 312 matter? Remember that we're talking about whether organizing review swaps is worth anything
Whoring yourself out for literally nothing is just embarrassing. At least shoutout swaps do something
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>>25235231
Probably, but I don't mind.
I do shoutout swaps as well.
Also, do you not remember the cabal that got all of the monster girl evolution stories to the top of RS for a month. That was attributed to review swaps.
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>>25235240
>That was attributed to review swaps.
I'm not sure where you're getting your info but you need to drop them as a source immediately
Those authors were all buttbuddies in The Order and did indeed circlejerk to the top, but they did so with shoutout swaps. Lunadea even posted Fish Girl on their main account, which was probably the biggest individual driver (sending shoutouts from a 10k follower story can help a lot... lol)
There was also the fact they were all actually successful beforehand and knew how to write sloppa (to some degree or another)

Where the fuck did you hear that review swaps is what caused it? Actually a comical claim
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>>25235249
>Where the fuck did you hear that review swaps is what caused it? Actually a comical claim
The Order lol
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>>25235252
Who? Which poster/what post? It literally makes no sense.
Obviously it was the 10000 follower story shouting out all the girl evos that did it. With all of the evo girls then shouting each other out too.

It literally doesn't make a shred of logical sense that some review swaps would launch a barrage of stories to fill 8 out of 10 rising stars spots. Honestly even if you heard from some apparently retarded guy on the Order that that was the explanation, you're lacking in some basic reasoning skills to have believed them
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>>25235264
Well, clearly you know more about this than I do.
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>>25235276
I don't even think it takes deep site knowledge.
People will click on a shout out to find a story. People don't somehow magically find stories because someone reviewed it, though.
It's just logical? At a very basic level
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>>25235283
I click on stories closer to 5 stars than 4 but thats just me
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>>25235286
You sort by new to find stories?
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>>25235286
Rating matters if you're already on one of the top lists and are attracting mass audiences who want to sort between the best picks
As a new story, you need a way to be discovered. And review swaps do virtually nothing for that
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>>25235287
I sort by tags and length
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>>25235295
You sort so specifically that 30 follower stories show up, such that you can pick which 30 follower story you want based on which one has a higher rating?
You aren't thinking this through
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>>25235174
Isekai the genre is not just about "another world":
* Power fantasy: the protagonist gets superpowers
* Common language: everyone speaks English
* Fantasy worldbuilding: magic exists, deities are real and sponsor the protagonist, a harem of horny big tiddy elves is socially allowed
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>>25235302
What is with all of these bot posts?
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>>25234728
rtoc isnt slop
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>>25235291
One thing review swaps do is that it insulates your story's rating and ranking against drive by early chapter 0.5 ratings.
Reviews are weighted more heavily (in the story rank) than simple ratings, and if you have 9 swapped 5 star reviews, and then get a random 0.5 star, you have an average rating of 4.5 ish.
Compared to if you didn't have those reviews, and you might have a much lower score.

So they don't help for discoverability but they do help a little overall.

Anyway the precepts are fairly clear on this topic: do a serious launch, run ads, do shoutouts as you can. Once you hit RS main it's a lot easier to arrange shout outs, and people who are also serious about their launches will reach out. Also just randos mass spamming requests but they can be ignored.

If you're past the RS main window of early launch, but you somehow get a lot of followers (300+), you can offer shoutout swaps to people approaching main RS early on and get your title out there and help others out, and grow that way. Cheaper than an ad but a bit more time consuming.

And this is of course all contingent on writing WELL and writing TO MARKET.
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>>25235330
>they do help a little overall.
Emphasis on a little. I maintain my position of them being worth virtually nothing, realistically speaking. If you do get a 0.5, just report it and have it removed.
They definitely don't do enough to justify whoring out in the review swap culture, giving 5 stars to shitty stories and gushing about them, just so other people can do the same for you.
Shoutout swaps are more honest than that bullshit, and they're also a thousand times more meaningful.
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>>25235326
I agree, did you finish it?
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>>25235330
>And this is of course all contingent on writing WELL and writing TO MARKET.
If you follow this to its logical conclusion you should write exclusively boys love and villainess slop. The only web novel I've seen for sale in a physical book store was Mo Dao Zu Shi
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>>25235369
DCC is in all barnes and nobles
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>>25235371
Idk maybe it was in the fantasy section, but mo dao zu shi was the only Chinese wn in the light novel section (I'm not really counting Japanese wns bc they have an established pipeline from wn to physical print ln adaptation that doesn't really exist outside Japan, at least not to that extent. But even then the Japanese lns they sold were mostly fmc villainess slop plus a couple super popular ones like rezero and ngnl)
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>>25235376
>Idk maybe it was in the fantasy section,
Not maybe, it is. DCC is one of the biggest hits in fiction recently. Despite being 6 years old it's the #14 overall in Kindle store and the #4 audiobook. It's stocked in every single Barnes and Noble. It outsells all LNs (domestically, at any rate) by a shitton
System Apocalypse is a little old in the web novel scene, but what's old in the frontier is just what's about to become mainstream.
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>>25234273
no
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read Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi
it's peak
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>>25235407
you don't need to say this so many times
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Funny how the dumbest fiction commenters always use chan lingo HMMM
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>>25234430
Because nobody irl has genuine power, they only have wealth and social influence, which are easily leeched through flattery, with nothing to lose.
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>>25235407
>fmc
>female author
hell fucking no retard buy an ad and kill yourself stop spamming
read RI it’s actually peak
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>>25235621
I already tried Reverend Insanity, it's shit.
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>>25235407
yuri?
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>>25235632
no, that's not my name
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Has anybody read Ascendance of a Bookworm?
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>>25235623
you are a foid nobody cares what you think
>>25235637
kill yourself already why do you want us to review bomb that series so bad?
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>>25235652
who hurt you?
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>>25235666
Stacey
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>>25235669
There is a Stacey that gets BTFO in Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi.
read it, maybe you will feel better.
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if you want a courtroom drama you should just read foxfire, esquire. the main character is trans and jewish so you know it will be good. and it is good.
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>>25235695
don't you get bored with the constant shitposting?
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>>25235695
It's on my reading list, though I suspect it's shit.
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>>25235696
I would never shitpost constantly. Only in occasional bursts.
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>>25235702
whatever the case, I'm sure it gives your life meaning.
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>>25235695
>the main character plays on easy mode
Why is this compelling?
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>>25235673
I read your work, it’s bad
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>>25235718
you dumb retard why did you do that i already told you it had fmc and was female author holy fuck good job wasting time you could have spent reading actual peak
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>>25235718
I'm sorry to hear that.
read The Villainess Is An SS+ Rank Adventurer by kayenano
it's also peak
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>>25235709
OPMC is popular
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>>25235650
yeah
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So I started attorney to the villainess by cocopi and now I'm stuck in slice of life hell. Now what?
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>>25235769
keep reading, it's peak
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Favorite set of skills/powers?

Want to read something with a creative use or synergy of abilities.
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>>25235810
> creative use or synergy of abilities
Worm and it's not even close.
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>>25235810
You reminded me that it's been almost a decade since I read a superhero/superpower story.
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>>25235764
Is Ferdinand going to end up romantically with Myne?
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the last superhero story i read was brainpunch but the author killed it after the first major story arc which pissed me off so much I haven't touched another one since
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>>25235727
lol it actually is an otome freak kill yourself foid
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>>25235835
what did you think it was?
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>>25235839
i thought it was a creature for sure but just ironically shitposting, not an actual otome freak hamplanet foid
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>>25235831
Yes.
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>>25235846
Hmm I figured, based on how it’s developing so far. I surprisingly ended up going through 10 volumes in 2 days.
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>>25235852
I decided to re-read the series two weeks ago and now I'm on P5V8...
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>>25234544
Universe on Fire series could interest you.
>humanity reaches the stars
>only to learn they are located within a hotbed zone of the galaxy and quarantined by the two major space factions
>end up making a portal to alt-Earth (with orc and elf analogues) and learn magic
>use magi-tech and mecha to fight their way into space and establish themselves as a third power
>shit happens
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40101657-broken-stars
Unfinished at 4 books though ;_;

HOWEVER the author does have a completed 12-book space opera series. I have not read this so I cannot attest to it as anything other than a vague recommendation.
https://www.goodreads.com/series/131551-rise-of-the-empire

This is the guy who writes Infinite Realm on RR. Nobody else reads that though.
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>>25235727
SS rank was surprisingly good for how little it gets talked about imo
I see why its not popular though. Its very whimsical and doesnt mind being nonsensical in reactions/logical cause and effect, which can break immersion pretty hard.
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In other news I just found out that HHFwM is the first translated physical-release litrpg in my language (greek).
Wierd we got this instead of DCC first.
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>>25236084
>Wierd we got this instead of DCC first.
It's cuz Aethon has wack priorities
Unless they just translated by running it through AI and costs were super low, I don't think it makes any kind of financial sense to translate into anything besides maybe german
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>>25236032
>>25235727
I checked the first chapter and it was full of elementary grammar mistakes and the writing was dull as hell. Then I looked at reviews saying the story lies about its genre and premise and the MC isn't actually even a villainess. Now I'll call you a fucking faggot for wasting my time again
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read Hospital Dungeon
it's bizarre that this made it onto rising stars. not front page but still on there. I'm pretty sure this is written with some sort of literary intent, and isn't concerned with entertaining the reader almost at all. there's some engaging stuff with character dynamics but the drama of character interactions/development isn't really pushed forward
it has a weird prose style. even past the beginning sequence's coming of sentience gimmick. it has a close psychic distance but is written in clipped lines and with a brisk pace. so you get specificity of character's micro movements, tiny environmental details, and observational or introspective ruminations constantly. most description is written with a bend of characterizing something. the people are neurotic, the spaces are homely, the pov is autistic. it gets tiresome because it never stops characterizing, even with things and details long established
I get the sense it has literary intent because everything seems coherently themed under a shared umbrella. the coming of sentience stuff, the core's fixation on words and meanings, the deurteragonist being a categorization and record keeping autist, representative characters from all kinds of bureaucracies, and an optimistic narrative on the necessity and good of bureaucratic procedure and legislation
it's a fine read and all, but I have no idea who this is for, and further no clue how it made it onto rising stars. if this can find a healthy niche, anything can. it frankly lacks anything exciting, sensational or titillating in the least
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>>25236094
I listened to the audiobooks and there weren't any grammar errors
Also, maybe 1 in 100 otome stories have a real villainness in the sense that they're a genuine villain in the narrative. That's a complaint that gets dropped on every villainess story
>Now I'll call you a fucking faggot for wasting my time again
I don't mind wasting the time of lil bitches
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>>25236103
>Also, maybe 1 in 100 otome stories have a real villainess in the sense that they're a genuine villain in the narrative
the biggest issue with villainess stories is that most of the them are "boring bitch is reincarnated as a villainess" and they completely diverge from the premise immediately
stories which feature the villainess as a character, be it as a regressor or whatever, are more interesting
though to be fair, LN styled slop tends to not give a single fuck about their hooky premises and abandon them the instant they get you in the door
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>>25236103
>listened to the audiobooks
Are you running for President of Fagland, you gaylord
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>>25236113
this purism perspective is so funny in a thread meant for slop
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>>25236113
>he doesn't listen to slop while driving
you should try it, it's peak
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>>25236117
What's really funny is that you can't even stand to read that trash yourself but need it forcibly poured in through the ears
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>>25236122
>this purism perspective is so funny in a thread meant for slop
Are you a tourist or something? You have to be
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>>25236122
>y-you're not a true intellectual
it's slop
you're in a slop thread
you're defending the thorough process of cognitively processing slop
you're being retarded
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>>25236122
If you have a more efficient way of reading a book while sitting in bumper to bumper traffic that randomly surges in movement, I will give you $55.
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>>25236112
The authors are probably constantly afraid of their stories becoming perceived as NTR
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>>25236096
Is this a weird AF AI ad?
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>>25236150
Doesn't matter what noise you listen, since your attention is hopefully on the traffic and not the story
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>>25236211
Mr. ESL from a country where cars are a rarity, normal human beings can process and understand different sounds from separate sources at the same time, and traffic signals don't audibly say "Stop" and "Go."



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