You guys take too long to make a new thread EditionPrevious >>25229105>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
Are there any superhero novels like Michael Chabon’s Cavalier and Klay? Superfolks?
>>25235489>like Michael Chabon’s Cavalier and Klay?wuzzat?
>>25235479I should have asumed that Terra Ignota was full of niggers with all of the nonsense in it.
>>25235516nigga hes greek you dumb ass fucking retarded american. black and "brown" people arent the only people with coloured skin, fucking retard
why did no one inform me that malazan is wokeit's full of black and brown
>>25235501
>tfw when you realize that not literally every poster is straight white American male
>>25235534It's disgusting to think about honestly.
>>25235525SF/F has always been about diversity. Look at Star Trek, Planet of the Apes, CL Moore, Marlon James, the list goes on.
>>25235501It's a book that I thought would be about the birth of superhero comics but it's about homosexuality instead, don't read it.
>>25235533Are you fucking stupid dumbass? Are you seriously mad that theres any black character at all in a super futuristic world where the concept of Nation states has dissipated? Thats not even that far off from our current world (I mean still quite far off but not that far off) There are still nations in the hive system, but people arent as nationalistic because theyre not as tied to one land due to convenience of travel. Which is fairly similar to our modern world desu, but still not entirely.Yes there are some black characters, like 2 or 3 or 4 that we know of, the entire Saneer bash is basically Indian, or am i misremembering, is that just the witch girl? (Already forgot her name its been so long since ive touched the book) Im pretty sure ockham is indian too.
>>25235489Soon I Will Be Invincible -- Austin GrossmanFight Me -- Austin GrossmanThe Violent Century -- Lavie TidharThese three appeal to my taste for melancholic superhero novels
>>25235479Why the fuck is this not return of the KING edition?
Bloodstone sucked anons and makes me wanna quit Kane. Is Dark Crusade any better? I've read Darkness weaves and Death Angels shadow.
>>25235677this isn't real
>>25235726Bloodstone is good but i can see why some wouldn't like it.IMO dark crusade is his worst kane book b ut i can see why some like it best. night winds is generally considered the best kane book so if you haven't read that try it
>>25235677>Lollypop FactoryGiven that his previous non-fantasy books ranged from "fucking unreadable" (Light, Time and Gravity) to "boring shit" (the Disciple of the Dog) to "kinda average" (Neuropath), I am not particularly enthused by this.
Why don’t Bakkerfags make their own general?
I do not like actual strict gooner fantasy, but I am obsessed with stories that are played completely non-horny, except for one or two characters that stand out as being ridiculously sexy or seductive, even if they are just minor roles in the story. I remember reading A Spell for Chameleon, which overall isn’t super horny. But then you have scenes with centaur women with huge breasts, or mentions of mermaid with massive buoyant boobs, or that horny teens can literally just grow their own dryads that want to have sex with them. Anyways, I really appreciate stories that aren’t sex-focused but still have seduction and sexiness in them. I need to find a good story with a femme fatale or some kind of seductress as a villain
>>25235849so every anime ever
When I'm about to read a book/series, I always look up pictures of the author to see their physiognomy and determine whether I can trust them to write something I'll be interested in. I don't drop it immediately if they're ugly, but I take it into consideration as I read and it contributes to whether I drop something or not.
>>25235901Post face
>>25235908I haven't showered this morning so I'm not presentable for headshots
>>25235545What's the difference? Superheroes are gay.
>>25235901Curious, what authors didn't pass your test?
>>25235953Gene Wolfe.Andrzej SapkowskiGeorge R. R. Martin
>Dear readers and friends. The unhappy fact is—the numerous bouts of anaesthetic I’ve had have made it pretty well impossible for me to write. I drop stitches. Not many. No problems with daily life or doing creative stuff or enjoying life in general. But the ability to control narrative is just not what it was, and it’s just not going to be there. I’ve accepted that, painful as it is. I thank all of you who’ve stood by me patiently. The body of work is what it is, and I am lastingly grateful to my publisher, Betsy Wollheim, who has given me every extension of time and resource. And of course to Jane, who is all things.Good.
>>25235901>>25235963How much of a woman are you?
>>25235975Whomst are you quoting?
>>25235978C. J. Cherryh.
>>25235981Y'all can't leave me here! This is Bakker country!
>>25235479>You guys take too long to make a new threadOh no, another thread was created too slowly for Bakkerfag to samefag and talk to himself for 80% of its content!Anyway...
Bakkerbros, we are so back!
>>25235677My arched phallus is strung tighly like a mighty bow, curving against my stomach in eager anticipation
>>25235901based
>>25235901kek, show your face anon.
Post only the most attractive /sffg/ authors.
Just read the first chapter of Dying Inside by Silverberg.>NYC, the big apple>"subway screeching down the tracks">"i'm walkin here!!">bunch of Jewish names>main character in his 40s but looks perfectly youthfully like a college student>genius who makes money from writing lazy Columbia students papers>loves Puerto Ricans and thinks they are epic>"girls think i'm smart and want to fuck me because I read /lit/ on the subway">ohhh no she actually is just thinking about getting her pussy pounded by her Asian gym teacher This is literally just a fucking Woody Allen movie.DNFed
>>25236157>Silverberg>bergFound your problem.
Any Western fantasy books that has an MC who gets young girls as companions and has all kinds of sex with them, like anal and rim jobs? I'm not really into feces play or whatever it's called, none of that stuff, just anal and cowgirl and stuff like that, piss can be fine but not excessive piss, poop is a bit gross for me.
Why aren't illustrations bigger in Western literature? Is it just a lack of drawing talent?
>>25236266You know who illustrates his books? Walter Moers
>>25236266Illustrations are for children.
>>25236269If illustrations are for children then so is fiction.
>>25236269>>25236274We are all God's children and should rejoice in these things with pure hearts
>>25236274Correct.
Fantasy books with feces play like GR?
>>25236278So science fiction and fantasy books lack illustrations, poorly drawn and inconsistent covers aside, due to a lack of talent in the field?
Bakker has gay rape but no passionate gay sex?
>>25236282No, they lack illustrations because their authors (and more importantly, their publishers) like to pretend that their works are mature and fit for adult consumption and thus unsuitable for such childish things as pictures.In Japan, light novels unabashedly target kids and teens, and have zero shame in including pictures for their readers.
>>25236291But even young adult authors and publishers don't do illustrations.
>>25236295I just wish Lolita had illustrations, for example.
>>25236289"They coupled on the smoking slopes, Man and Inchoroi, their silhouettes entangled, arching against a skewed, perpetually setting sun. They grunted for wonder, wheezed with ecstasy. They gazed in delirium, cried out across the great bowl of ruin, over flames arrayed in descending echelons, like teeth growing out a shark’s throat.And daylight Stained everything, a false pocket of sun in the night.The infinite night."
>>25236298Thank you! Very beautiful.
I just find it weird. "A picture is worth a thousand words."The value of illustrations isn't wholly lost on Western publishers or authors, they do the covers. Even if that's just a capitalistic ploy, inserts would work just as well or better to increase sales.
>>25235842this.
Does Bakker have adult rape only?
If I hear one more greasy Reddit boy talk about Dungeon crawler Carl IRL I’m gonna lose it. The men around me finally start reading and instead of showing the publishing world we want real books they boost litrpg bullshit>haha funi foot fetish haha goreI hate them
>>25236357Let them enjoy what they want. They're not hurting anybody.
>>25236362No they are in fact hurting people. If the world of royal road infects the publishing industry, it’s truly over. Nothing but progression type nonsense and romantasy for the next 20 years.
Pic related is pure kino so far.
>reading Kingdoms of Death>Hadrian about to get killed by Syriani with his own highmatter sword>lol jk let's just use magic to pull another copy of the same sword from another reality and fight using thatThis level of deus ex machina is really souring all the good will Ruocchio built up with the amazing Cielcin-focused part of the book
>Bakker is unironically blocking comments on his Blog that offer any kind of fair and/or friendly criticism.I don’t know what you guys are celebrating. He is completely brain broken.
>>25236471Honestly, he sounds like a complete tool.
In light of recent news, I refunded the audiobook for The Darkness that Came Before and instead used the reclaimed credit to purchase Little, Big.What am I in for?
A good-ass book.
>>25236613That AI-tier cover pisses me off. Just pay a Chinese person to draw your character, you stupid millennial faggot.
>>25236623I don't know why the author re-did his covers but they get more attention ITT because of it lol
>>25236623The cover doesn't look like AI. You mean CGI, you fucking human?
>>25236471He did the same to me. I suspect he is blocking multiple comments that offer any substantial form of criticism. I think he is too far gone at this point.
>>25236298Technically this isnt 'gay' the inchoroi don't have gender really.
>>25236638You sound like a stalker lmao
>>25236336No. There are multiple instances of child rape.
>>25236471Tv tropes / yellow page / Anti-Bakker anon deserves to be blocked lmao
Whenever you have to add "technically this isn't gay" as a clarification to something, that thing is guaranteed to be extremely gay.
>>25236661It's not gay, it's just traditional military discipline in the Russian army.
>>25236471As multiple other anons have already said, he is truly gone. He thinks himself a failed writer. And all it took was not being as successful as George R. R. Martin. Writers are a sad bunch, talented ones that is. >>25236638That was a bit brutal, and maybe a little too close to home. I’m positive he reads every comment since he is the only one in charge of that Blog.
>>25236471AI was all it took to make him go erratic. I honestly can’t wait to dump all of his works into an AI that will finish his series and make an anime out of everything.
>>25236401Whats it about? what makes it good? Sell me on it
>>25236645>yellow pagekek youre a retard
>>25236515bump
>>25236638Ay lmao
This I think is the gist of the point of the entire series. Like ive said, the question is just how the Utopians who are clearly the authors favourites, fit in, otherwise this is basically a simplified version of Jedd Mason's belief.
What?
I can't think of any fantasy series that's based on the Crusades.
Book name drop. After like an entire month maybe. I finally finished the 63 page chapter and made it to the next. I must be back in a better mood because Im speed reading so smoothly, I almost believe I can finish the book
I have to admit. This is just about the most actually interesting part of the series. Partly because its such an abstract and unique concept, and partly because it doesnt need to trick me superficially into believing that it understands enough about politics and war to have anything to say about it.
>>25236638He always was kind of a dick on his blog. That and he has a very strong tendency of pulling the old "anyone who doesn't agree with me is just psychologically motivated and weak, lacking the virtues to accept the hard truths I acknowledge."It's funny that he's Canadian and resorts to this since I would assume Canadians read their greatest living philosopher, Charles Taylor, who explains how this view, so common to the New Athiests, itself emerges from an explicitly Christian set of metaphysical assumptions. But I think he's Frog Canadian so maybe the others don't acknowledge him.
Mycroft...
A very anime feeling if I do say so myself. I still dont quite understand why he hates Tully specifically so much. So Mycrodt dubbing him "My personal enemy". Just feels like an anime character hating the villain for no particular reason other than, hes on the opposite side, is not a former friend, does things he doesnt like.The book has been slyly making the surface level case that theyre actually the same/similar so I figure its just a roundabout imposed object of self hate thing
some genuinely enjoyable dialogue as respite
>>25237139You are retarded? Genuine question.
>>25237161It was funny. Whats wrong?
Why is this shit allowed?
>>25236401>all those awardsRed flag
Another problem. This fictional world is too poorly set up for the concept or reintroducing "borders" to be scandalous. How the Hive system truly functions with no borders, and a central body that has some presumed power and domain over...what? A person. How does a law have power without a place for its power to be protected in. The terra ignota solution doesnt make sense. Because if im remembering correctly its essentially compromise. Where you allow some enforcement of somebody elses law if youre allowed enforcement of your own law. But that doesnt solve anything because what constitutes valid enforcement would then be in question.Anyway its possible im remembering the hasty explanation of this gaping worldbuilding plot hole that was given, but the real problem is this: This border issue makes no sense because how the fuck was there not war looooong before the events of today. The O.S assasination system being able to stop things makes no sense unless every single Hive leader was in on it, and they werent. It would also easily lead to civil war, as people mad that their hive is compromising on important laws would do something, and it wouldnt simply dissipate with the leader of those "riots" assasinated because those laws should be fundamental to the existence of the hive period, not something that actually needs a stable in your face leader. Similar to whats going on in Iran right now, the defacto leader and a bunch of higher up officials were killed, but things are still clearly being bombed, because when your existence and the general enough fundamental values that uphold that existence are threatened, whether civil unrest or not, people will come together to fight the enemy.I feel like this is such an obvious writing problem that I must be missing something. The book constantly vaguely brings up the set set riots, but I cant remember it ever being addressed how those riots were stopped in a way that wouldn't have to be plot convenience.If anybody here has read Terra Ignota (the series not the in universe law) and can answer, Id appreciate it. This needs to be settled. I'm getting less tolerant of the way certain concepts are framed.
How simple and anime. For a character(s) to proclaim one single thing the most important valuable thing ever for abstract reasons that often reduce to "Its pure and the most abstract therefore real"
The black company is not as broody and grimdark as people made it sound. It could be better written and reviewed too. The Tor paperback has a lot of mistakes especially in the white rose part of the omnibus.
This is why romantasy is so popular. Do better men. It's all men's fault that women are into such degenerate literaturehttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/yjeA0rQvQUw
I posted in the writing general, but I’ll share it here. Mostly because now I’m worried my author photo is going to have that guy pass on me.I spent last year writing a book, and began querying it immediately. Over the last few months I got lots of rejections, but now I have a second literary agent offer call tomorrow. I’m expecting one more offer, then I’ll pick an agent by Friday. It feels kind of surreal. But, maybe, I’ll have a book on shelves some day.
>>25237258Sorry but I don't listen to jeets
>>25237284cool :D
Michael Moorcock and Alan Moore meeting is like putting an immovable object next to an unstoppable force. Absolute kino… https://youtu.be/HMj43UTSIaA?si=WCfskmptnBto2EhP
So anime. Shonen really does own sci fi and fantasy
Is this a blatant lampshade? I cant tell? I cheekily said to myself when fictional Hobbes noted this that "That'll never be answered because this is a hastily built world where the details and intricacies are never elaborated upon or dwelled on. Jk im being too negative im Hobbes' well meaning concern will be addressed by the book in coming due time"Just for the next paragraph after this to just skip over Hobbes' question.I will be somewhat fair to the book. Real life is stupid to, and concepts like "reasonable doubt" are effectively the exact same as "well weighed opinion" theyre empty platitudes with zero properly established foundations, that largely just rely on the whims and intuitions of a judge and whether the retarded people who vote, get mad enough about it. I'm pretty sure there are "you'll know when you see it" laws too, which are just about as arbitrary as these Blacklaw laws too. So I can't even get that mad about how juvenile and simplistic it all seems, we're all simple outside of fiction, and inside the real world too unfortunately.I will say, the concept of a Blacklaw is still retarded for reasons that largely the whole Hive system seems stupid
And here comes to first problem. I'm not going to dwell on this long because its pointless when the Book just doesnt really care to justify or prove itself.But if this was true...why did methods of punishment ever change in the past, and why did methods of punishment change from the change of our modern time, in this select artificial gated "community" for lack of better word. It doesn't make sense.Focault talks a quite a bit about these changes and postulates why they occured. I know hes decried by historians to some degree, based on a documentary i watched but historians are always so vague about what he actually got wrongMight go on Wikipedia and check the criticisms section to see if I can find anything.Ill be impressed if The Will to Battle satisfactorily answers to the whys ive posed.
>>25236935>anyone who doesn't agree with me isSo like the newfag spamming this general in defense of the author for a decade and going? Big fucking yikes of embarrassment.
It’s been a long road, getting from there to here.I have completed the Cosmere. What a ride! Didn’t like all of it, but I truly loved some of it.My heroes?BreezeWayneThaidakarAdolinSzethVasherNomadDesignPatternTaravangianKill Taldain shitters en masse. Kill Hoid. Kill dragons en masse. Kill all Sleepless aside from those who are willing to pretend to be art hoes.
Gee what a good point. Who could have thought about that? Why doesnt everybody just adopt such obviously reasonable laws? Why is everybody so unreasonable and weird except for the select Hives that the auth- I mean Mycroft dotes on. Why didnt societies of past just do this? Why were their ever riots when you could just do this? Just baffling to me how unnecessarily problematic the world is because people just inexplicably choose worse laws and worse values for seemingly no reason other than to be different.The book need not do this because its just so obvious how reasonable and true what Mycroft says here is. But it sure could be interesting if the book would somehow make me understand why people would be so opposed to reasonable laws that would hold the social fabric together that isnt reducible to: "The Mitsubishi love land because land is real and eternal, and so they can't give up their monopoly on land because land is just real and eternal and its land, thats real and eternal. They cant even be convinced by reason to give up even a smidgen of land is real and eternal"Its possible that I'm just too stupid to understand why "Land is real and eternal" is actually completely reasonable justification for the Mitsubishi to continue to do things that would steer the plot in the direction it seemingly wants to go.
DMR Books has a free sampler collection to showcase their authors, called The Infernal Bargain and Other Stories. I've read them all so you don't have to. Here are my thoughts:The Infernal Bargain, D.M. RitzlinProbably the weakest story in the collection, in sore need of editing. This guy seems to be the editor, so maybe that explains it. It does get fun, but has a slow start. MC is a barbarian.Thanhausefeer's Guest, Howie K BentleyFun with a nice twist. MC is a barbarian.Blackthorne: Into the Dawn of Storms, Byron A RobertsGood intro and a more unique setting, but this story is only a taste. MC is not a barbarian.Mountains Have Eyes, Harry PiperDecently written, but not very fun. MC is not a barbarian.Sapphire Goddess, Nictzin DyalisLot of fun despite stilted prose. MC is not a barbarian.Gift of the Ob-Men, Schuyler HernstromThis is great, probably my favourite in the collection. MC is not really a barbarian. He might be a savage, though.The Thief of Forthe, Clifford BallVery fun. MC is a barbarian.Black Genesis, Mark TavernaPowerful, but incomplete. I want more. MC is a barbarian.Adventure in Lemuria, Frederick Arnold Kummer JrStraightforward, but pretty fun. MC is a barbarian.The Heaviest Sword, Geoff BlackwellGhost story, not very fun. MC is not a barbarian.You are supposed to start and end collections with your strongest stories and scatter the mediocre ones in the middle. This collection did the opposite, with the best stories clustered in the middle and the my two least favourite as bookends. I will definitely be looking more into Mark Taverna and Schuyler Hernstrom, though. 5/10 barbarians.
>>25237378There's still decades left of the Cosmere. I severely doubt you have completed what's available of it, unless you have a very different definition of completion other than reading 100% of it.
The inexplicably reasonable glaze makes sense now
>>25237414I have read ElantrisThe Hope of ElantrisThe Emperor’s SoulMistborn 1-7Arcanum Unbounded (MSH, SFSITFOH, 6OD, etc)WarbreakerStormlight 1-5 EdgedancerDawnshardWhite Sand OmnibusTressYumiSunlit ManIsles And the two short stories written by the other guy about Lopen and Jasnah. As well as reading the companion books to the Stormlight TTRPG
>>25237434Fine, you have, at least until the end of the year.
>>25237320Pic related is them in their previous lives.
Does this wacko honestly believe people are interested in his shitty extract pics? Even this pages are piss stained. Stop with this lame shit you fuckwit.
>>25237516I agree with this.
>>25237516The book this text is from is>Too Like the Lightning: Book One of Terra Ignota>Ada PalmerIt's not even his book
>>25236402I forgot to mention this>"To look at it, I had half-severed the royal foot, and knew that ever after the dark lord woul walk with a limp."Last line lifted from the Silmarillion, Fingolfin vs Morgoth
>>25237284Congratulations!
I sometimes squeeze my flaccid cock when thinking about violence or abuse… it’s a way to self-soothe when distressed by my (sometimes intrusive) mental content… is this similar to Bakker’s Prince of Nothing series?
>>25236638He unironically made your post public moments ago and even left you a reply. If this isn't the ultimate proof that he posts on /sffg/, I don't know what is. I bet he has been the one behind all the spam lately.
>>25237887>>25236638>>25236935>Contempt Ah, Scott. That Freudian slip... Not once was that word mentioned. You may not despise your fan-base, but you clearly resent them. It's still funny to finally receive the confimation that you browse this general regularly. Enjoy the memes, I guess.
>>25237887If Bakker himself is the Bakker spammer, this is really fucking sad.
>>25237920Two things are all but confirmed at this point:1. He is entering the late stage schizo period of his life. 2. He, at the very least, lurks here regularly. Not even his subreddit is as active as this place. >>25237918So he does harbour ill feelings towards his own fan-base for wanting him to finish the series, or what? Either way, what a shitty repply. I bet he thought of that for a whole day and this was stil lthe best he could do "LMAO".Did you stop smoking weed, Richard? Maybe that's the problem.
>>25237918>Your favourite writter is 60 years old, browses 4chan daily and says "LMAO".What the fuck happend?
Wait, Bakker writes grimdark gay rape and thought he'd been as famous as GRRM?? LMAO
>>25237942Well, GRRM writes grimdark heterosex rape, so...
>>25237938He is having a full histerical meltdown over AI.
>>25236639"The creature stood naked, as was his want, his wings folded into wicked hooks about either side of his great skull, which would have been cumbersome, had it not curved into a crest, narrow and deep, like an oyster set on end. A proportionate face hung from the fore, loutish with the absence of expression, nostrils drawn into shining gashes, sockets plugged with lobes of bare white meat. A second face filled the mouth, sheathing a second skull fused within the crocodilian jaws of the greater. Second eyes regarded the Hero-Mage with leering expectation. Second lips grinned about teeth like nails…The light cast by the tripods slicked the creature in lines of luminous white, yellow and crimson, but otherwise, the intestinal translucence of its skin rendered it devoid of colour–the pallor of things drawn from the depths. Though he stood no more than half again as tall as man, he seemed enormous: for the wings, for the fiendish stoop, for the webbing of stone-dense muscle…And Shaeönanra could feel the tugging glamour, the promise of surrender within irresistible limbs. He could feel his own ardour rise, an answering will to be taken… ravished!Aurang… a fabled Inchoroi… A creature out of legend and childhood terror.His lover."
>>25237961Gay coded for sure.
>>25237284Congrats anon. Please shill your book here when it releases.
Rate my bookstore haul. Also which one should I read next?
>>25237918>>Contempt>Not once was that word mentioned.>>25236638>>I am frankly shocked to see how you give the impression of almost despising both your life’s work and your most ardent fans.>>despising
>>25237961Scott Gaykker lol
Recommend me novels, VNs, LNs or manga where there is a race with bigger boobs than the others.Examples:>Monster Musume(minotaurs), >Isekai Maou(dark elves),>Monobeno (Oni) https://vndb.org/v8435/>Oppai sensou https://vndb.org/v10619>mononoke sharing(Yokai)
>>25237938Bakker is mindbroken by AI and TDS.
>>25237993If you're gay then the one on the bottom
>>25237993i'd throw terry pratchett in the trash but that's just mebetween two fires is pretty good
>>25238063The Color of Magic is good.
>>25237920>If Bakker himself is the Bakker spammerIt might be him. I remember him getting caught shilling his own books at least twice, here and on Westeros.org, many years ago.
>>25237998Go back to your assistant professor job, Richard boy. Those finals aren’t going to grade themselves.It must be frustrating to see your aspirations as a children’s book author swirling down.
>>25237998It's not too late, Bakker. Start another series and do a better job aping George this time.
>>25236638>>25237918Imagine being baited this hard. You are being played like a fiddle, Scott.
>>25237516Normalfags honestly believe that they are unique and interesting individuals for choosing to read the most megapopular entries within the genre.
>>25236638>Too often, people refuse to distinguish between writing about something and advocating for it.I think there is something true to this way of thinking. It is one thing to write a character, a plotline, an arc even, about something you disagree with, but to dedicate your whole book, your whole writing style to something, means you must, at least in some level, identify with that. Why? Because writing is hard and tiring, so you need internal profit to actually write at such lengths about something. You have to enjoy it.
>>25237918Why isn’t anyone addressing his reply? Why would his life be easier if he had contempt for his fans?
>>25236157>trolls in this board always use Pepes so normal anons can ignore their troll postsThank you troll!
>>25237993meme/10>>25238063gay/10
>>25235489Worm by Wildbow is a big one. I like it quite a bit, but it might be a bit too long for you and it has it's faults. First chapters are shaky with Wildbow getting his bearings and the teen drama early on might put you off.But if you get into it, it's quite engrossing, a lot of the characters are lovely and I really liked the "grounded, realistic-ish" superhero setting. It left me wanting more so much, I started reading fanfiction. (It has a sequel; Ward, but it's unfortunately pure ass) There is a decade old fanfic community. Sturgeon's Law says 90% of everything is shit, and nothing makes that clearer than looking through fanfic. But within that rancid milk, there is cream that rises to the top, that is genuinely better than published work.Also, does 'superhero books' have a genre? It's not really sci-fi. I've heard urban fantasy, but that's more Harry Dresden, and I don't feel like it encompasses capeshit. 'Capeshit' itself is the only label I like, but has it's own, obvious problems.
>Bakker just made another Blogpost>about AISadCringe, even
>>25236401>Female authorYou better be really fucking sure of yourself anon, I've been burned before.
>>25238247>female author>a billion wards in this ageYou can probably guess what you'll find.
>>25238256>>25238247>scared of womenSome men USA has.
>>25238246Curious how in the period prior to one of his blogposts, the thread is not spammed by Bakkerfag. Very curious.
>>25238242>Worm by Wildbow is a big one.>and it has it's faults.It's an example of the work, to which its derivatory fanfiction is vastly superior.
>>25237574>>25238114roasted that bum
https://file770.com/china-mieville-among-signers-of-open-letter-of-support-for-palestine-action/Based.
>>25235525Do you think it would be feasible to rewrite them by eidting the file or is this a futile endeavor? I already edited a bunch of books where I deleted shitty epilogues or changed the covers. I'm not sure how to feel about race-swapping non-whites. The fact I personally edited such an aspect would still remind me of the fact that the character isn't white.
>>25235525bakker is also woke.The only aryans in the books are Kellhus, Serwe, Cnaiur and Sorweel.The rest are brown-skinned.
>>25238325That's really unfortunate. Racial cohesion is its own fanatsy genre now.
Got DAMN am I enjoying Kingdoms of Death. Hadrian's misadventure on the Cielcin worldship overstayed its welcome imo but everything after sure pays off.
>>25238342For me, it's Gibson coming back one last time
>>25238321>censoring booksLand of the Free.
>>25238347I'm modifying my own files the same way one would modify their own game files. That's not censorship.
>>25238349>implying you won't upload your edits to the Internet to make money
>>25238349So, if you change a brown character like Quick Ben into white guy, you realize you'll also have to retcon his origins/backstory (since he's Seven Cities native; Middle-East of Malazan)?That's a lot of rewritting.
>>25238390Claude can directly rewrite the file.
>>25238325>The only aryans in the books are Kellhus, Serwe, Cnaiur and Sorweel.Kellhus and Moenghus and all the other Dûnyain are archetypal Jews though...That's why they break Cnauir (Chad Nord) and Conphas (Chad Med) first. The finale of the series forces the Aryan reader to consider two fates, literal Satan taking over the world or the Jews. However, the Jews out deceive the Deceiver and win in the end. The Consult being dominated is a commentary on how laughable goyim elites are when they try to deceive themselves that they can win at the great game.
>>25238445>21st century readers in a nutshellI'm telling the author.
>>25238460>Kellhus and Moenghus and all the other Dûnyain are archetypal Jews though...I see it honestly. If not for the fact that they accept any race of people into their little religion, as proven by the Anasurimbor
>>25238497Once you see it, it's hard not to see Cnauir's view of the Dunyain as essentially /pol/'s view of the Jews. He ends up going mad because any action he takes and any outcome at all comes to appear as manipulation to him.It even shows up in the way the hate becomes unmoored from reality. Kellhus actually, for reasons he cannot understand, actually treats Cnauir perfectly fine. He doesn't discard him and fully lives up to his end of their original bargain. It's just that watching him succeed mind breaks Cnauir.
>>25238125The greats do it. They make positions that oppose theirs come alive, and seem like real, living alternatives. But for most writers, even the more philosophical, they leave the alternatives out of their story (fair enough really) or straw man it (this can be annoying).
>>25238125>>25238531Satirical writers make their whole careers about things they vehemently oppose
>>25238536But they're making fun of them, which they like to do.
>>25238518>>25238497>>25238460>>25238325No wonder Bakker resents his fans, you people are mentally ill.
>>25238554It do be like that.
>>25238531>The greats do it. They make positions that oppose theirs come alive, and seem like real, living alternatives.Theres a trick and a problem here. I wont mention it. But I broadly agree with the rest of what you said.
https://thenewshadows.substack.com/p/long-live-death-part-iiiPart 3 of my fantasy novelette about kin, country, and catharsis.
>>25238531Mihkail Bakhtin called this "polyphony", when the voice of the author is just one voice among many in a work of literature and holds no precedence over the others.
>>25238554Can you imagine how popular Bakker would be among red-pilled brocolli-haired Zoomers if they actually knew how to read?
>>25238579I'm a red-pilled broccolii-pilled zoomer (balding millenial) and "meesa don' car' 'bout no 'acker'" as the urban children say
Theres nothing else I can do, unless I commit myself to giving up. I simply have to keep reading and hope I enjoy.
>>25237969The Inchoroi literally have magical penises. They are male.
>>25237414What the fuck is completion? I read all the book and thats it i completed that book, i read all of pic rel in 2-3 months
>>25238626A response has already been accepted for that post and thus your post has been disregarded.
>>25238620>magical penises >male
I was thinking about this, and I dont really see any reasons for any of the Hives aside from Mason and Europe. To be in opposition to Sniper in the War other than disliking O.S. and liking Jedd Mason.Mason makes sense as Sniper literally just attacked and raided one of their sacred buildings or whatever, like bombing the white house (a contrivance that such a place could even be so easily breached but whatever, you'll make yourself go crazy expecting an established sensible reason why the plot pushes itself forward so blatantly) and with the Europe thing, its a different kind of contrivance where the evil anime villain former Prime Minister of Europe Kraye just happened to blow up all the important people that run Europe and himself. Leaving the King of Spain alive, and so he has to ally with Jedd Mason cuz hes his son. But for everybody else? Why would the Cousins ever do this? Why would the Mitsubishi? Or the Brillist, and obviously the Humanists are the primary opposition, so it doesnt actually seem like Jedd should have as much power as he does, when he blatantly and openly says he will tear down the system that allows itself to thrive on covert assasinations, whether that means the Hive system maintains or not.But every Hive other than the Hunanists who could give him power also inherently depends on that Hive system to maintain their stupid way of life. So there seems to be a sort of contradiction here that I hope is resolved or at the very least addressed.Am I missing something?
>>25238620They could just aswell have vaginas. It's their touch that makes you get crazy horny if I recall correctly
>>25237993Bakker.
"“Emilidis, the Accursed Smith, was cunny, and we knew him!"I've always wondered about this line. Did the dragon mean that Emilidis was effeminate as Nonmen go or what? Then again, I have a hard time understanding the verbal duel between Skuthula and Serwe in general, but English isn't my first language.
>>25236854Arthur trilogy by Kevin Crossley-Holland? I haven't read this in like fifteen years but I remember that the main character joined a Crusade at some point
>>25238638Noooo shitfuck
>Bakker is literally debating with AI-generated comments on his own anti-AI blog post.
>>25238664It has to be some sort of meta commentary. It dosen make sense when taken at face value.
>>25238744>he fucking gave upkek
>>25238744See I don't get this... Isn't Kelmomas the No-God? I know they 'see' Kellhus but it's not literally him.
>>25238744Writers are really full of themselves, huh?
Bakker actually using "LMAO" is funny to me.
>>25238744>Imagine having to retcon your goals because your publisher dropped you.We literally have videos of you talking about the future of the series and No-God. You’re a liar, and people only engage with your schizoid rants on your blog out of pity. That and the copium you've fed us for almost a decade now.
>>25238744This has been the greatest fall from grace I've ever seen happening in real time in the context of this general. What a sad day to be a fantasy fan. Such a waste.
Once again we are witnessing the superiority of the standalone novel. I implore you all to stop with the endlessly padded series. Very rarely do they stick the landing or are ever finished. I can name on one hand the good ones. We don't have to live like this. Take the 1 and done pill. Free yourself.
>>25238822True. Such wasted potential. He was the most talented fantasy writer of our generation. We all know he’s full of shit when he claims that The Unholy Consult was the ending he intended all along. Something drastic must have changed within him over the past decade or so. Whatever it was, I don’t think he will ever make a comeback as a writer; whether in The Second Apocalypse or anything else. He’s never getting published again.
>>25238822Wish this would lead into the bakkerspammer into killing xirself.
>>25238031/wng/ is over there
>>25238676lol
>>25238896who?
>>25238779its actually based and humanizing and im not even a fan of bakkers writing
>>25238653>Am I missing something?A brain.
https://youtu.be/kpqSOSnJWRw?t=6m24skek literal magic plot solution
>>25238917Could you explain how the supposed brain problem makes my understanding misguided?
What are some books about people going on crazy journeys? Not love or learning morals or growing as a character, but just inserting themselves into crazy situations. I have read Malazan and the Black Company already.
>>25238989>botPeople are typically misguided when they are fucking retarded.
>>25239006Okay but what did I actually get wrong, thats usually what it means to be dumb, or misguided. These words arent just empty labels to be attached to whoever one wishes to elicit the implied preconcieved use based meaning of a word.I would like it to be explained what about what I said, supported the purported fact that I am lacking in some brain related aspect.
>>25238992Journey to the West?
>>25239018>he still believes words have consensus meaning
>>25238325"Wokeness" in regards to "race" per-se is not simply the eixstence of browns, but rather the incoherency of the ethnography of a setting.Bakker's world is not woke (on this count) becausee the different races of men all have clear origins and are distinct. Further the races all have several nations (except the Scylvendi depending on how you conceptualize a nation) each with languages, discrete cultures etc. These do not generally intermix, there are no black Scylvendi, there are no blonde blue-eyed Satyothi, etcetera. Further still I would go ahead and point out that one of the nations, the Ce Tydonni, are literally white supremacists, believing the Norsirai to be superior (themselves specifically, really) to their brownoid slave race. Not like cartoon white supremacy but actual, real white supremacy like a caste system. It's never really brought up. Racism in general is pops up generally but it's mutual, the Norsirai hate the Ketyai, both of them hate the Zeumi, etc.Any story which actually depicts race and ethnography realistically is at least on thatt point not "woke" because "woke" is a total rejection of even the concept of races existing.Like there's good stuff to criticize but not that. It's about the fucking crusades man yes there are going to be brown people, but it's realistic.
>>25238896This would be the best outcome.
Every person I've met in the wild who has read Name of the Wind has nothing good to say about it.
>>25238992The Eyes of the Overworld
>>25238826Never
>>25238744dude lost his fucking marbles kek
>Surely you have discovered that emotions let you sometimes tell yourself the possible is real, even without proofWell yes. When I was a child.
>>25239043Sometimes I forget how stupid this place is and make the mistake of believing it can process basic literary criticism. Thank you for reminding me.
>>25238826Recommend good one-off fantasy novels that aren't The Last Unicorn
This is actually a hilarious sliver of writing. I actually love it. No criticism no nothing. Its genuinely just great. Intentionally or not
I just got banned from r/fantasy cuz I said Rowling wasn't a bigot.
>>25239106The Well of the Unicorn
finally the book has learned to meander from the plot while being interesting, i mean a borderline murder/kidnap mystery is kind of cheap, but its interesting considering the context of preventing early war.based on the name of the chapters ahead, im guessing its cato that did it.
>>25237993Toss Abercrombie, you will never get that time wasted back
I think its possible I was right about the point of the series since Last time. I get the Utopian point by this point I think. I mean the book really does shove it down your throat. I just dont get the point of Jedd Mason then. Is it a statement against percieved perfection/messiahic leaders? That would be boring.
>>25239075The first book is fine and has good prose, the second is horrendous and you instantly know that Pat Rothfuss was a virgin when he wrote it.
>>25238289I haven’t read any Worm fanfics, any examples of these? >>25238744Kellhus? Isn’t it Kelmomas? He has forgotten his own story…
>25239096>25239109>25239168>25239356God this person is such a faggot.
Hm so I guess this is how the author solves the problem of how it makes little sense for Hives like Cousins to be on Jedd Masons side.He just expresses his will strongly and forcefully.
>>25238764>>25239428Kellhus being the No God is a theory I've seen kicked around before. It has its merits in explaining a lot of different things, particularly why he shows up at the end despite being "dead" and why Ajokli cannot find him at the end. The idea that it's a hologram has the problem of why the Consult didn't fuck with the Ordeal using holograms the entire time, why they would need to do that, and probably most importantly, why the Judging Eye would see a hologram as the No God. Nothing in the text suggests it's a hologram, that is just a fan theory people just restate as fact routinely.Kelmomas is obviously the meat going into the thing. The Eye opens on him too and doesn't see anything at all.
150 pages left. How did I get this far? Im surprised. Im in a good enough mood after stopping here that my earlier claim that I would end my reading of this series on this book if it didn't address certain questions, is seeming more unnecessary.
>25239524>How did I get this far?Remaining alive this long. I'm surprised too.
You know what. /lit/ needs IDsThere I fucking said it.
>>25239524bot post
>>25239106A Night In the Lonesome October
>>25239532>I'm surprised too.why?
Well, that's it Bakkerbros. At least it's nice that we don't have any reason to keep hoping for The No-God.
>>25239572Yeah, we can focus all our energies on The Lollipop Factory instead
>>25239536There is only 3 ips on this thread
>>25239576I don't know that one, unless you're talking about an actual factory were Bakkerfags make lollipops. In that case I want in.
>>25239572This is so surreal, isn't it? After fuck knows how many years, he comes back, says he won't write No-God, teases a prequel and, in the end , completely loses his mind. Oh well. Back to Erikson, I guess...
Sanderson will own sci fi in a couple years
>>25239590He teased a prequel?
>>25239596Yeah, said ''it's in the works'' or smth like that. Check the the comments on his blog and/or subreddit.
>>25239596
After i finish the cosmere ill get going with malazan
Kellhus simply can never have been No-God, because Gods could see him. If he did become one, the Gods would never have been able to sense him. Bakker has lost his mind. Sad stuff, but this is why I always maintained Erikson >>>>
>>25239610Erikson needs to finish Kharkanas soon.
>>25239614Next year, probably.
>>25239614I got filtered by Kharkanas, too boring
>>25239610can someone get gpt 5.5 to write a satisfying conclusion? are there fanfics which do this? now that bakker has given up and went crazy
>>25239636>can someone get gpt 5.5 to write a satisfying conclusion?It's pretty obvious how it would go:-there is a laser gun, similar to Heron spear, which Kellhus used to slice off one of the Golgotterath Horns -> so we would expect a repetition of Seswatha crawling into a shithole to retrieve a weapon, capable of slaying the No-God-there is a scylvendi army, now under command of Moenghus the Junior (Cnaiur's biological son, raised by Kellhus) -> so we would expect culture-contact between scylvendi and the remains of the Ordeal-there is a Mimara, the true prophet -> so we would expect either a miraculous happy-end restoration of meaning, or some biblical/lovecraftian shitshow (since objective morality need not coincide with 21st woke sensibilities).
>>25239586>>25235677>>25235758
>>25239668>>can someone get gpt 5.5 to write a satisfying conclusion?also,-since the Consult has deliberately assisted Mimara to look upon the No-God with her Judging Eye -> we would expect, that the Dunsult (or Shaeonanra, possessing them) has some kind of grander master-plan than simply starve off the Hundred-since the Prince of Nothing ripped-off the First Crusade, and the Aspect-Emperor's Ordeal march was based on the Second Crusade (The German contingent splitting up and suffering defeat at Dorylaeum due to logistical failure) -> we would somehow expect a Third Crusade rip-off, perhaps?-since all the Absolute-talk was based on Hegel -> maybe deploy something Schelling-involved now?
>>25238992Shadow By K.J.Parker
>>25239668Since Kellhus is still active in some sense because Ajokli is incapable of finding him on the outside (and Bakker's hints), imo Kellhus goal would be to restore the actual true God (eg. the broken vase analogy that is used at some point) to turn the Outside into an afterlife that is based on objective morality.
>>25235754I'll read Night Winds after Dark Crusade. So far my favourite story has been the one with the werewolf
>>25239698>maybe deploy something Schelling-involved now?My knowledge of Schelling is sparse and based on secondary retellings, but from what I've gathered, God needs Hell ('a foreign body') in order to exist, and while God is love, all the being is equivocated to hatred.This equivocation of Hell/Outside and the Absolute would certainly explain:-why a summoned demon suddenly rants out the Ajencis' definiton of the Absolute, when he is sensing Hell leak through("But *here*, in this place, *Hell itself steeps the air*, making *whole* what the frail sorcerer’s magicks had halved. Here, *in this place*, it cannot be sundered.<...>What does it matter, the punishing of a Desire identical with its Object?")-why Ajokli equivocates himself with the Absolute(" “I *alone* ... Brothers ...”But nothingness and nothingness alone was his prison.“I am the Absolute.”What could not be grasped could not be broken. ")-why the Survivor symbolically killed only 99 birds of 100 ("There was the day he gathered a hundred stones, then wandered through the forest, killing ninety-nine birds.").Out of all the Hundred, Ajokli (hatred) is apparently indispensable for the God's existence.
LMAO, Dude.Well, that's the last nail in the sarcophagus for me. I'll leave Scott to his AI derangement syndrome and move on with my life now. Shame, though, since no other fantasy writer comes remotely close to what he created.Another case of Art vs the artist I guess… Why are the best ones always like this?
>>25239668>there is a Mimara, the true prophet>>25239698>-since the Consult has deliberately assisted Mimara to look upon the No-God with her Judging Eye -> we would expect, that the Dunsult (or Shaeonanra, possessing them) has some kind of grander master-plan than simply starve off the Hundredthe Absolute branches out into two different things: Hell (Ajencis' collapse of desire and object) and Oblivion (Memgowa's Death)Per Theliopa, the No-God is equivocated to Oblivion:(" “The Gods are-are finite,” Theliopa declared in a voice that contradicted the stark angularity of her frame. “They can only apprehend a finite por-portion of existence. They fathom the future-future, certainly, but from a vantage that limits them. The No-God dwells in their blind spots, follows a path-path they are utterly oblivious to …” She turned, looking from man to man with open curiosity. “Because he *is* oblivion.” ")And per Inrilitas, Oblivion is salvation:(" You understand this trick the world calls a soul.”“A trick that can be saved … or damned.”“What if redemption were simply another form of damnation? What if the only true salvation lay in seeing *through* the trick and embracing oblivion?”")Per Kellhus, we all share the same soul ("But in a manner, yes. Just as there’s but one Here, there’s but one Soul, Akka, breaching the world in many different places")And, finally, per Memgowa again, the soul would annihilate itself if it saw its own background conditions:(" The truth is, if the soul could apprehend itself the way it apprehended the world—if it could apprehend its origins—it would see that there is no now, there is no here, and there is no me. In other words, **it would realize that just as there is no circle, there is no soul**. —MEMGOWA, CELESTIAL APHORISMS ")IN OTHER WORDS: since God (the one common Soul) has just *successfully* looked at the backround conditions of himself (the No-God, aka the Oblivion), we would expect that the Consult's plan is to make the Solitary God annihilate itself.
>>25235726I certainly like Dark Crusade more than Bloodstone (which was also my first Kane novel, though I did like). Of all the Kane books I've read (which is pretty much everything except Darkness Weaves) Night Winds is my favorite.
>>25239524books 3 and 4 are slogs. honestly i feel like TLTL is the only 'good' book in the series.
just finished A Drop of Corruption, i dont know why this book is so highly rated. din is selectively retarded and ana is basically just paul atredes.
>>25239601Honestly wanted this over a sequel series, most of the interesting characters are dead and the glossary was my favorite part of TUC
>>25239601It would be cool if Bakker writes something on those ancient times when the Inchoroi battled the Nonmen.Sort of like Silmarillion to his 'LotR'
it is better being an actual book with proper narrative instead of those "lore books"
>>25239572>weYou (singular) gonna trash the joint for another decade, faggot?
>>25239789If AI turns out just to be the next television, video games, cable news, social media, printing press, etc.—disruptive but not in any apocalyptic way—it sort of falsifies their whole schtick they've spent their lives advocating for, and at times insulting people for not accepting. Plus, as much as there certainly are psychological motivations for people wanting various non-mechanistic metaphysics to be true, there is also plenty of psychological motivation in favor of them as well.Whereas, the rest of the "the mind is just a computer crowd," has pivoted to:>"Well it cannot be just any Turing Machine set up. It needs proper integration. And a body. And sensory organs. And the right architecture. And goals. And so an evolutionary history. And to be the right sort of computer."This is a good hedge, except that it basically says that the computational theories are true, it's just that thinking systems will just so happen to have all the properties we associate with things we already know to be thinking. Arguably, that means the "computation" part isn't doing any lifting at all, and is more of a metaphysical posit.The way this cashes out is funny though. The AI boosters who boost it because of their eliminitivism end up telling us how vulnerable we are because we anthropomorphize things and find patterns where they don't exist, and then talk about Clankers as if they had goals and understood things more than almost anyone. But a Clanker "manipulates" in the same way a river manipulates you into building bridges and flood walls, not through intent.
>>25239864Those 'history/lore' books are hot garbage. Do your worldbuilding through normal narrative.
>>25239511Yes but this is Bakker saying Kellhus is the No-God?
>>25239951>printing press, etc.—disruptive but not in any apocalyptic wayAround 1440, Johannes Gutenberg invents the printing press, in order to spread the bible among the populace.The damn plebeians actually read their damn book and start the Reformation.Renaissance is canceled, culture in decline, because some retarded faggots have started genocidal wars. (Like, over whether the damn laity ought to partake of the consecrated wine instead of merely bread (utraquism) ).
>>25239951"AI" slurpers are so fucking stupid, holy shit.
AI has spoken!
He really comes off as kind of a huge asshole, to be frank. And full of self pity and fear. The way he responds to long, heartfelt, thoughtful messages on his blog with short, elusive, dismissive quips is really annoying.In revenge, I am going to upload all his books into an LLM and force them to write TNG. That will show the bastard.
>>25240082>He really comes off as kind of a huge assholeAlways has beenhttps://rsbakker.wordpress.com/2016/02/06/the-discursive-meanie/"I appreciate that I’m something of an essayistic asshole, and that academics, adapted to genteel communicative contexts as they are, generally have little experience with, let alone stomach for, the more bruising environs of the web. But then the near universal academic tendency to take the path of least communicative resistance, to foster discursive ingroups, is precisely the tendency Three Pound Brain is dedicated to exposing. The problem, of course, is that cuing people to identify you as a threat pretty much guarantees they will be unable to engage you rationally"
>>25239997>I had to read BotNS twiceHoly brainlet
