Best books on the Occult?Would ask on /x/ but those schizos dont read books
>>25235721The Manuscript Found in SaragossaLa-BasMagic MountainGravity's RainbowNot sure if it counts as occult or just esoteric, but The Recognitions deals with various heresies and alchemy
>>25235721/x/ reads more than /lit/ and I say that with absolute confidence as someone who has never gone to /x/.>>25235724If you are going to fiction, Foucault's Pendulum and for Pynchon, AtD is the one.
>>25235721Partridge Ch. - The Occult World (2014)Hall M.P. - The Secret Teachings of All Ages (1928)Godwin J. - Arktos. The polar myth in science, symbolism, and Nazi survival (1993)Sørensen J. - A Cognitive Theory of Magic (2006)Martin L.H., Sørensen J. (eds.) - Past Minds. Studies in Cognitive Historiography (2011) (ch 11. István Czachesz - Explaining Magic. Earliest Christianity as a Test Case)Winkelman M. - Shamanism. A biopsychosocial paradigm of consciousness and healing (2010)Winkelman M.J., Craffert P.F. - The Supernatural After the Neuro-Turn (2019)Winkelman M. - Supernatural as Natural. A Biocultural Approach to Religion (2017)Whitehouse H. - Modes of Religiosity. A Cognitive Theory of Religious Transmission (2004)Stace W.T. - Mysticism and Philosophy (1960)Duquette L.M. - The Chicken Qabalah (2001)Karlsson Th. - Qabalah, Qliphoth and Goetic Magic (2009)Burckhardt T. - Alchemy. Science of the Cosmos, Science of the Soul (1972)Greer, J.M. - Circles of Power. Ritual Magic in the Western Tradition (1997)Ouspensky P.D. - In Search of the Miraculous (2001)Blavatsky H.P. - The Secret Doctrine (2012)Carroll P.J. - Liber Kaos (1992)
Suhrawardi Philosophy of Illumination (first half as well since I'm assuming you know nothing of logic).Plotinus EnneadsIamblichus De MysteriisPhilosophy as a Rite of RebirthPlato's ParmenidesAges of the World 1811Damascius Problems and Solutions Concerning First PrinciplesWhy, how, does the indivisible divide? How does the omniscient become ignorant? Why return to the place that fell? Won't it fall again? The sages of the world all sing of liberation, but liberation begat what they call bondage.There is no final freedom from 'bondage' as such. For there is nothing lovelier than to be bound to her beauty. And what they call liberation is but a return to the innermost of all chains: absolute emptiness is absolute virginal longing for the Other.God, also, loves to fondle tiddies.
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Haanegraaf's Esotericism in Western culture will get you a basic ground level view of things. Just be aware he's a raging lefty and occasionally lets his politics slip in.
>>25236044>he's a raging leftythis is becoming a real problem
Translation of Issac Newton c. 1680.1) Tis true without lying, certain & most true.2) That wch is below is like that wch is above & that wch is above is like yt wch is below to do ye miracles of one only thing.3) And as all things have been & arose from one by ye mediation of one: so all things have their birth from this one thing by adaptation.4) The Sun is its father, the moon its mother,5) the wind hath carried it in its belly, the earth its nourse.6) The father of all perfection in ye whole world is here.7) Its force or power is entire if it be converted into earth.7a) Seperate thou ye earth from ye fire, ye subtile from the gross sweetly wth great indoustry.8) It ascends from ye earth to ye heaven & again it desends to ye earth and receives ye force of things superior & inferior.9) By this means you shall have ye glory of ye whole world & thereby all obscurity shall fly from you.10) Its force is above all force. ffor it vanquishes every subtile thing & penetrates every solid thing.11a) So was ye world created.12) From this are & do come admirable adaptaions whereof ye means (Or process) is here in this.13) Hence I am called Hermes Trismegist, having the three parts of ye philosophy of ye whole world.14) That wch I have said of ye operation of ye Sun is accomplished & ended.
>>25236047Eh. It's not like he's subtle. Calling the reconquista "so-called" or putting it in air quotes, the way he redefines the west arbitrarily to involve the middle east and north africa then does nothing with it, etc. Perhaps the only seriously inaccurate thing is that all western esoteric traditions did not really grow from the reconquest of Toledo. Many existed before this.
>>25235721>Muh occultThat's just the sefirot, that is what Jews actually believe, they think God has 12 essences and appears in the world through them, like if you say something honest and a jew feels good, he might think that honesty is "true" and a manifestation of "God", not that you are God but that "truth" as spoken is "God"The mental gymnastics to just cope with Jesus being God is incredible, they won't say he was God and they'll find ways to cope with his actions being divine (good, truth etc)
>>25235721Oneirosophy, by Triumphant GeorgeUniversal Line, by John Paoluccihttps://archive.org/details/jp-tg-ul-oneirosophy>>25235724For fiction, agree with Umberto Eco. Also, Philiph K Dick, Haruki Murakami, Jorge Luis Borges, Ted Chiang and Mircea Cartarescu.
>>25235721Anything by Crowley, who spent his life demystifying the subject.
>>25236864>demystifyinglmao
>>25236044>>25235721Oh, and unironically google journal articles on religious practices. Specifically syncretic ones. I ran across one by Humphreys and Laidlaw at random on blood sacrifice to spirits in mongolian buddhism in the guise of an article about the difference between, and the modularity of, ritual and sacrifice. You'll find lots of great stuff out there even if it's only peripheral to the occult.While esotericism isn't necessarily occultism you can also go find the esoterica channel on youtube. It has a reading list under some videos and that's what you want. Just don't watch the videos unless you're willing to read the sources first. That sneaky jew quotes himself or presents what could be politely called biased narratives. Not that Haanegraaf's great for that, his bibliography in the book I recommended has like 6 pages of references to his earlier books.
>>25235738A fellow IceCream enjoyer, I see
>>25236875You haven't read Crowley.
>>25236864I am genuinely curious why you think this is so.
What should I read if I want to get into the occult from a folklore and curiosity angle, and not schizo ramblings about how this is totally legit guiz?
>>25237614>to get into the occult from a folklore and curiosity angle, and not schizo ramblings>>25235738The first chunk is a digest, who references all the relevant pokemons out there.The second chunk is how cognitive science views the phenomenon.The third chunk is the ramblings of people who actually buy into it. (consider them a symptomatic reading)
good thread
>>25237644>>25197849
>>25235721https://archive.org/details/TheSecretTeachingsOfAllAgesManlyHall
The Confessions of Aleister Crowley: An AutohagiographyOther Crowley you might read for its literary style: The Vision and the Voice, The Book of Lies
>>25236044>>25236047Why are you two fags such assblasted snowflakes?
>>25237788Because it's a disease that regularly clouds the otherwise good mind of many people.
>>25237658Literally nothing in those plagiarists not found in earlier pagan philosophers (Plotinus, Second Sophistic, Plutarch, Cicero...)
>>25235721If you want to know more about mysticism then "Meditations on the Tarot: a Journey into Christian Hermeticism" is great but it can be difficult to follow after the first major arcana.
>>25237788Because his lies negatively affect the scholarship of the work.
>>25237614Joycelyn Godwin, Coulianu, Eliade
>>25236044>Just be aware he's a raging leftyThis is disqualifying, especially when it comes to esoteric matters.
>>25235738something tells me you only read the middle section and thats being optimistic
>>25237863>>25237798Fragile
get the books of Pierre Riffard and Antoine Faivre
>>25235736>/x/ reads more than /lit/ and I say that with absolute confidence as someone who has never gone to /x/This is pure bullshit.There was this Amerindian edgy transfucker who thought he was special because he reposted books he deemed academic from libgen to his personal mega; and during a bout of NEETing I read half of the material he posted only to find out he skimmed the material, used wikipedia, and pretended to have read the books he posted. It was easy, after two or three books read from first page to last, to see the Ameritroon has never read the stuff he claimed to curate and read and bullshitted all the way through, and other /x/ers fell because they themselves have never even read the intros to the reposted books. And he was the top """literate""" there. In my experience, /lit/ is actually more read about the occult than /x/. And /lit/'s reading is more varied, going from traditionalism to edgy left troon material like Qlipoth and Chumbley. In this thread alone the material offered to OP ranges from the Thelemic to the academic, from right hand to left hand, from the traditional to the new age. Never seen that variety on /x/, where the usual recommendations were Crowley and then Chumbley, and everything else was considered shit because it didn't adhere to strict and historical academic settings.What I concluded from the engagement of the occult is that it's a refuge for the cluster B disorders. The aforementioned Injun, for example, considered he was purest and best because he was called by spirits to do Aghora stuff and necrophilic Cultus Sabbati rituals involving human bones and skulls, menstrual blood, animal remains. Despite all his supposed """""""knowledge""""""", he didn't have enough brain matter to introspect and ask the obvious questions: why was he attracted the pathological extreme of the occult, and was the intellectual pretense and ritualistic obsessions just smokescreens to separate his desires and actions from the overt manifestation of the likes of Dahmer? A way to sublimate the same illness that drove Dahmer to commit murder?Most people would consider someone willingly and fervently engaging with bones and cumming n jars filled with roadkill as mentally ill, not spiritual or occult, but this element was lost on him, just like the obvious compensatory nature of occult practices and beliefs is lost on the majority of the occultarted.
>>25238107>one random guy represents all of /x/>just so happens to be transNewfags say the dumbest ignorant shit.
>>25238107>obvious compensatory naturestrawman aside, if its that obvious you shouldnt have a problem elaborating on it
>>25238082Nah. I just treat the last section as if it were a Silmarillion
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>>25238229>>25238232>>25238235>>25238249your screenshot-taking ability is flawless at least
>>25238090>just another 2 weeks of late stage capitalism>any time nowsecular Christianity, eschaton is right around the corner
all "occultism," "occidental mysticism," hinduism and buddhism revivals, death and satan cults... all of this amounts to a vast heap of goyim cope for not being a jew. one becomes an "occultist" upon discovering the aristotelian, which is to say pagan, nature of christian trinity. proof: "christian kabbalah" is the centerpiece of rosicrucianism and magic. the funny thing is judaism reveres the convert, the stranger ... the door is open and you refuse to step through it. but that just proves the goy you always already were doomed to be.
>>25238265sloped foreheadnorwood hooked noseunibrowlimp wristmicropenisshort stature with long arms
>>25238271>literally /pol/ ad hom meme is your only possible copeanother great example of how the goy can't help but prove himself to be one, even when the truth is right in front of him. it's why we're not supposed to lay out stumbling blocks: soOo many blind people!
>What I concluded from the engagement of the occult is that it's a refuge for the cluster B disorders. If you think you can do magic, you're at least schizotypal, but that's cluster A.
>>25238265>>25238281also, i'm trans in case anyone cares btw.
>>25237440Try reading him. He exposed the doctrines of the Golden Dawn, and made them available to anyone. He also explained various magical methods in an accessible manner.I'm curious about your apparent skepticism.
>>25235721Occult texts The Secret Doctrine-BlavatskyMorals and Dogma- Albert PikeThe Upper and Lower Keys of SolomonThe Book of Lies -CrowleyThe Egyptian Book of the DeadThe KJVTranscendental Magic Eliphas Levi Secret doctrine of the Rosicrucians Magus IncognitoOn the occultPenguin dictionary of symbolsThe cult of the black cube -Moros Complete book of spells and magic -GonzolezThe morning of the magicians- Pauwels /BergerThe history of the devil- carus The history of spiritualism -Doyle A history of ghosts - AkroydA magician among the spirits -Houdini The mystery traditions - wassermamThat’s a good start
>>25238090Man, either get a coherent troll or a decent argument. Arsehole or retard, which is it?The demonstratively incorrect portions damage an otherwise good work. I don't like his politics either and I don't think the more polemical parts have a place, but the parts that are blatantly there to cater to his political opinions? That's counter to known and accepted scholarly history, the stuff that even the 'academy' generally agrees on, the stuff with actual evidence against itm
>>25239001Boilin’
>>25238825NTA but Crowley still wrote in symbolic code 80% of the time
>>25239016Then you should be able to provide plenty of examples.
http://www.gnosis.org/library/hermet.htmhttps://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/index.htm
>>25238107Anon hooked himself a big one.
>>25235721Learn jew's languaje, next read, reread, and study the holy bible. You don't need anything else
>>25235721Jewish claptrap.
>>25235721Bram Stoker has a lot of occult lore (albeit through the Masonic lense). I recc The Jewel of Seven Stars. A lot of "fiction" has the goods, since oaths aren't technically broken. Just a story ;)
>>25235736Nah, /lit/ may be filled with pseuds who don't actually read books, but you would be surprised on how mind-bogglingly stupid and illiterate those /x/tards are.Spend half an hour there and you will become insane.
>>25239305yeah the 19th century booms are much better than the modern stuff. they had an actual classics education instead of the dumbed down slop we got.
>>25238127Nta but it really is obvious, what exactly do you need expanded upon?
>>25239296Can't remember the last time I got that much seethe with so little effort. >>25239326>but you would be surprised on how mind-bogglingly stupid and illiterate those /x/tards are. /lit/ is also mindbogglingly stupid and illiterate but that has nothing to do with my point regarding who reads more. >>25238107 proves my point.
>>25239538You basically wanted to put /lit/ down a bit, as we all enjoy doing, but chose a poor board of comparison. As multiple other posters have already said, /x/ is a special kind of retard-place and you'll just have to accept your jokes didn't work quite as well instead of pretending to be a masterbaiter.
>>25239557So /lit/ is just standard short bus drooling on themselves retarded? It wasn't a joke, it was bait that you swallowed and are now trying to rationalize away. I admitted to having never been to /x/, what more do you need? how could I be more blatant?
>>25235721/x/ here. What do you want to know? The vast majority of "the occult" is mostly overmystified quackery written by charlatans and consumed by religious idiots. You could download the 1.5TB or whatever torrent of materials and only keep less than 1% of it once you actually understand what's worth keeping for your research, that is, of course, if you already have a fraction of a core understanding of fundamental principles. Everybody is going to sell you THEIR idea of "the truth", you have to be aware of that. Based on your dismissial of /x/ and the recommendations in this thread I can already tell that you'll be looking for quite some time and digging in manure. Anyone on the succubus general and tulpa threads, which you, of course, deem laughable, will have a superior understanding.
>>25239557He's a newfag who keeps spamming his favorite buzzwords. You are effectively engaging with a bot.>>25239927He didn't actually want to learn anything. OP is a typical narcissistic newfag who wants to roleplay as if he is the most intelligent entity on 4chan at any given time (they all do this.)
>>25239949>who keeps spamming his favorite buzzword>typical narcissistic newfag>roleplay
>>25238107ze ape of ze toht.
