>Make a children’s book about animals>Intellectuals decide to retcon your children's book after you die and claim it's about a man they don't like, who is already deadShould all books come with disclaimers to avoid this happening in the future?
It's wild how people can read the last sentence>The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.and think it's some epic own that the worst possible outcome is for the leaders of the revolution to end up like the capitalists
Animal farm and 1984 are such milquetoast and unrealistic depictions of the problems with the USSR, they really do seem like red scare tier propaganda and im not even a commie. There's plenty of other works written specially by eastern europeans that go way more in depth with the issues the USSR had such as excessive bureocracy, over militarization, constant self fellatio by the part of mediocre yes man and lack of a proper direction. It's no wonder they made kids read this in middle school because it really doesnt go anywhere beyond a middle schooler's perception of communism, it's barely educational and serves as nothing more than a shitty propaganda pamphlet>t. somewhat fascist leaning anon who despises the USSR for what they did to my country
>>25236680LOL THIS. They will tell you how Soviet Union was rife with corruption of bloated party beaurecrats. What they won't tell you that it's that same corruption that achieved it's final form in the Oligarchal Capitalism of post Soviet Russia. Which means that communism, even at it's worst form of decadence can only ever transform into Capitalism because Capitalism itself is decadence and corruption reincarnate. Since the greatest form of corruption, i.e. stealing labour from workers is pretty much legalised. Capitalism cannot be corrupted because it itself is corruption
>>252369311984 isn't about Russia pseud
>>25237045Im tired of the whole "it applies to any type of totalitarianism!" when it was evidently made by the most famous anti stalinist author as a beyond explicit jab at specifically StalinismThat's fine he has plenty of reasons to hate Stalin but authorial intent is, indeed, a fair way to acess a work. The whole "it applies to fascism too" is just butthurt tankies
>>25236968It's more that Capitalism is just more stable and better at distributing wealth, despite there still being stark inequality. Turns out the government tends to be total dogshit at country-wide economy control. It's far better to just let emergent behavior play out with a bit of tinkering if things get too unbalanced.
We should just genocide all pigs since they are evil, and then the animal revolution will work.
>>25237227>Capitalism is just more stable and better at distributing wealth, despite there still being stark inequalityThis statement is contradictory. Capitalism cannot be considered good at distributing anything if stark inequality still exists. This sounds like a sophistic excuse more than anything else. As I said, it was the party elites in every region who bought all the public sector industries penny on the dollar. And later the ones who survived the subsequent dogfight became the current oligarchs and their appendeges. "Corruption" as a term implies that there is an ideal state which has degenerated. Communism IS that ideal state. The deviation from that ideal (using public labour to fuel your own luxuries) is corruption. Capitalism is the highest form of that corruption fully realised, when complete exploitation of workers is finally achieved.>just let emergent behavior play outThis is just liberal nonsense. Capitalism is emergent but not in the way liberals think. It's a historical process that emerged out of the material forces of industry evolving through time and the concurrent human social intercourse that goes along with it. Capitalism is NOT some implemented ideology as your language seems to suggest. Idealism is wrong and you cannot make shareholders out of 7th century farmers or 2nd century slaves. The base-structure simply doesn't allow it. So your interpretation that people "chose" capitalism because it was "better" is simply wrong. Literally nobody choses to be born in capitalism much like nobody choses their original religion
>>25237271>Capitalism cannot be considered good at distributing anything if stark inequality still existsI didn't say it was good. I said it was better.>And later the ones who survived the subsequent dogfight became the current oligarchs and their appendeges.The dogfighting never ended and never will. Wealthy people rise and fall. You will never escape this coming from a species that emerged from survival of the fittest.>Communism IS that ideal stateIdeals are fantasies. Communism will never leave fantasy.>This is just liberal nonsenseIt's plainly clear that you don't value liberty.>Capitalism is emergent but not in the way liberals think>It's a historical process that emerged out of the material forces of industry evolving through time and the concurrent human social intercourse that goes along with it.What did he mean by this?>Capitalism is NOT some implemented ideology as your language seems to suggest>So your interpretation that people "chose" capitalism because it was "better" is simply wrongYour reading comprehension sucks dick. Capitalism rose to the top with sheer economic output. It wasn't some board room decision to implement it. It was the product of people's economic choices when at liberty.
>>25236663Did George Hackwell ever even visit Russia
>>25236680>>25236968People are people.That's the message.
>>252369311984 Is nowhere close to hard literature and yet retards still think it's directly about communism.
>>25237067> whole "it applies to any type of totalitarianism!" when it was evidently made by the most famous anti stalinist author as a beyond explicit jab at specifically StalinismAnimal Farm is, explicitly. Braindead people like you think that means 1984 must also be about Stalinism. It’s not. It’s not about “nazis” either as other retards think. Read the man’s essays. He’s talking about the UK. At this point he’s been disillusioned with commies after his experiences in Spain. He’s been hounded at home by his publisher and his own government. He’s had his mail intercepted and censored. He even writes an essay to say Moseley (the british fash fag) should be uncensored now that the war is over and that excuse doesn’t fly. I know it’s shocking to you, but the man actually had principles beyond “blue button good, red button bad”. He’s a declared DemSoc, which also misinforms people who read into it what that means today, and goes against his far more strongly held beliefs. The man was an english eccentric, a tradlarper in his own right, trying to cling to his small town shopkeeper identity. Being an advocate for workers until the post war period puts you anywhere on a political spectrum because what that meant wasn’t clear and certainly wasn’t the canned answers that haven’t really changed for 50 years now. But please, read the essays, read his attacks on the british state censorship, his advocacy for speech and reconsider the idea that he’s talking about some imaginary “someone else” with a story that pretty explicitly says this shit is worldwide but coming here as well.
>>25236931Animal Farm is as much about Catalonia as anywhere
