Are there any books that will help me escape this faggot?
>>25236724The Bible
>>25236732This faggot wrote the Bible.
>>25236746Did an archon tell you that?
>>25236724The bible (specifically the new testament) and the yoga sutras.
>>25236724How is the demiurge real like nigga just close your eyes hahaha
Egyptian funerary literature (Pyramid Texts, Coffin Texts, Book of Ani) will teach you how to become him, or better; —the spells are always in first person because you are literally assuming the nature of the God in question. Sometime replacing them entirely. Most of the time taking on their 'prosopon'. Their avatar in the coming aion. To be the sun of a day.
>>25236724Infinite Jest
Visuddhimagga
>>25236746Wrong. Although he did retcon and edit it to some degree, and most Abrahamics functionally worship him, although the this goes against the original intentions of the prophets and especially Christ.
it really tickles me that gnosticism made a comeback in the 21st century thanks to tiktok. the sorts of people it appeals to will do anything, no matter how occult or esoteric, other than putting their faith in Christ.
How can we kill the demiurge and not just escape but annihilate the material world?
>>25236724>erm, why can't I fly to the moon by flapping my arms?>This must be the work of magic space snakes
so what is "gnosis" actually? is it enough that i know material reality is a scam? as easy as just saying "yeah, i'm not going back" at the white light when the archons ask. apparently i have free will, so they can't force me to reincarnate.also, what do the gnostics think about suicide? can i just exit the matrix anytime that i want? or do i have to die a natural death?
All you got to do is name him in order to rule over him to break the cycle
>gay ideas that form a closed loop>you are retarded>gay ideas that form a closed loop, 300 BC> :OOOOOO
>>25236724why do people still larp that they are gnostic? seriously, it's pretty lame. like using some old meme from reddit 2017 over and over
>>25237857Because it's basically an aesthetically cool, edgy, fantasy concept. It's like what if Christianity was le epic Dark souls Berserk religion with a dark Eastern Orthodox esque aesthetic and Greek texts that subvert the bible and give me sekrit DARK gnosis (Greek btw, pretty cool huh) aesthetic. Oh my demiurge that would be so cool, what if there was epic mystical sekrits that only I can unlock, abstract and incomprehensible knowledge that I can pretend I possess and call people an epic word like goy but it refers to those who don't LARP as some kind of magical priest like I do, HYLIC!! And like what if there was a scary, dark, eldritch being that crafted the universe just to torture us!! That would be so scary and cool, but oh so scary, please save me niggerman!!!
>>25237187Gnostics literally say christ and Maria are the only ones deserving of your faith. With yahweh being evil and disserving of your faith.
>>25237330No, disavowing material reality just means you're not hylic. You reach the psychic stage and can reach gnosis. Reaching gnosis means you have the knowledge necessary to transcend this dimension. Do you have that? No? Then you have not achieved gnosis. The good news is if you are a psychic it's guaranteed you will reach gnosis eventually but we don't know how many times you will reincarnate and suffer in this material hell before reaching gnosis.
>>25237330Also on the suicide front. Suicide is okay but won't help (or hurt) in any way. Depending on the gnostic sect it just means you force reincarnation. Not all gnostic sects have you talk to archons after death. In most you don't have free will as long as you haven't reached gnosis. And the serpent forces you to reincarnate. The closer to gnosis you are the worse your life will be as retribution for getting closer to the divine truth. Being an Indian woman born in India is probably someone very close to gnosis. Being born as a rich jew or Trump is furthest from gnosis and a pure hylic.
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>>25237857>larpGnosticism has independently developed throughout history dozens of times if not hundreds. It's just the logical conclusion everyone comes to through reading the Bible on face value.Everyone agrees physical reality is suffering and that cruelty is baked into the universe by default through physics (scarcity because energy and mass are finite) and evolution that cause constant competition and zero-sum situations. Reality didn't need to be like this, but it is. Gnosticism is the only religion being honest about this and making sense of it.
>>25237848Erm, you're supposed to say BCE, not BC. Do you not trust the science?
>>25237128which prophets? I think it’s pretty clear with whom the covenant was made
Jewish noncesense
>>25238104>jewish nonsenseGnosticism is the most anti-jewish religion. It's literally about how the old testament is evil and the Jewish God (yahweh) is the evil demiurge while Jesus and his mother are the only ones you should have faith in.
>>25238133>Gnosticism is the most anti-jewish religion. It's literally about how the old testament is evil and the Jewish God (yahweh) is the evil demiurge while these other two Jews are the only ones you should have faith in.nice try rabbi
If the Christ and YHWH are different Gods, why didn't Jesus just say so, plainly? That's a big one against Gnosticism. The idea that it's two different Gods in the OT and NT purely based on the different vibes is... something.
>>25238142>whole point of the religion is that light springs from within darkness>but somehow the religion is invalid because its source is someone surrounded by darknesshave you ever wondered what original thought feels like?
>>25237876to be fair, this is every terminally online christgger convert already
>>25237857I posit that the internet Gnostic is basically an extreme form of Reddit atheism where they can codify their superiority complex into an actual system of beliefs (insofar as Gnosticism has a concrete system). Since there isn't, to my knowledge, a specific moral doctrine for Gnosticism like for, say, Christianity or Islam, it's much easier for someone to LARP as Gnostic without having to back it up by changing his behavior.It is important to note that this LARPing happens with more or less every religion these days, it's just that Gnosticism and other more esoteric or niche religions seem to have less of a following aside from the LARPers, as well as being more suited to feed the ego of the LARPer.
>>25238228Obligatorily posting the other half of the pic (in my folly I posted the second half first)
>>25238228>>25238230The way that religion has become just another way for the internet user to rationalize his pride and further entrench his attachment to his other vices, is a very sad thing indeed. It's like they pretend to believe in a God or a higher truth while still acting like there is no intellect higher than their own, and no good greater than their own pleasure. I can think of no more effective soul-harvesting matrix than the one in which the LARPers, trolls, baiters and those who fall for bait, the argument addicts, shitposters and fart-sniffers alike, are in. The internet user becomes, in effect, a demiurge unto himself by building his own hellish prison planet out of information and habit, confined within the dungeons of his own mind.It's a shame because religion is one of the ways, traditionally, people have gotten out of such vices and been able to develop spiritually, intellectually, and emotionally.
Process Metaphysics: An Introduction to Process Philosophy by Nicolas Rescher
>>25238153He did a lot of other Gospels have been burned during the gnostic purches because the church was afraid it would cause spreading of more gnostic heresies. There's a reason why there is a clear tonal shift between different Gospels such as the gospel of judas compared to the official church ones. The problematic ones got destroyed and only recently have we found other texts that were hidden well enough that it avoided destruction throughout history. The original Jesus teachings were most likely much closer to Gnosticism than to "orthodox" christianity let alone Catholicism or protestantism. Even from an atheist religious history perspective you should realize just how gnostic Jesus and Mary's teachings were in its (now understood) original form.
>>25237936interesting. how does the guarantee work exactly? if i learn something in this lifetime, it doesn't carry on to the next cuz they memory wipe you. is there just something in my soul that will make me realize material reality is a scam again? it will probably take me till my 20s again. any way to re-call past lives? i'm not sure how to achieve gnosis, that knowledge is probably buried in some rock in the middle east. but lucky we're in the information age.>>25237949one of my biggest fears is that i will be reborn in india after i rope. i can't shake off the idea that i will anger the demiurge because i avoided some suffering i was "owed" in this lifetime by cutting it short. but i never thought about how he takes revenge on the "knowers" and rewards his evil minions. is this why india is such a "hotbed" for spirituality? it's simultaneously the worst place on earth while secretly hiding salvation. how would one even filter the thousands of bogus spiritual paths? i feel like Jesus should've made this shit a little easier...
How is Vedanta and Buddhism not just a more effective and actual ordered system for achieving gnosis and escaping maya? Why don't supposed Gnostics in the 21st century just turn to those systems?
>>25238007All of them, even Moses etc., not because they overcame idolatry and worldliness (which are essentially the same as demiurge worship) in their entirety, but because they moved in that direction against a backdrop that was invariably worse. Even Moses implemented laws against human sacrifice and decadence and helped lay the groundwork that would become the foundation for the teaching of Christ. Although he did engage in idolatry with the Ark of the Covenant, it was a stepping stone to worshipping the [true] Father in Spirit and in Truth. That said, the original sense of prophecy is better preserved in the later prophets of the OT such as Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel.
Gnosis almost feels like a trap. Your soul thinking ''AHA!'', finally escaping the prison only for the archons to pull the rug and feast on the massive loosh generated from your terror before sending you back to be a pajeet.
>>25237857gnosticism is the most intuitive solution to the problem of evil
Not the purpose of this thread. What are some good books on the tenets & beliefs of Gnosticism & the history of this faith.
>>25237857It's a religion for people who grew out of their fedora tipping atheist phase
>>25238913Hans Jonas' The Gnostic Religion is the go-to book on this subject.
the demiurge IS a good guy
>>25240563hello archon
>>25236724Yes, start with the Gospel of Thomas in the Nag Hammadi Library. But remember it’s not about “escaping”, it’s about doing what we came here to do while helping each other navigate and spiritually strip back the layers of the Matrix Control System together.
