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what's your favourite pro-elitism, pro-classism book?
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>>25237630
kill yourself.
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>>25237630
I would read sword of honour by waugh too its just as good as brideshead.
Basically any book by a british author before 1950 unless its overtly socialist. Even American authors like hemmingway have it. For whom the bell tolls has it pretty naturally
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>>25237630
fuck off. /lit/ is a Protestant board.
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>>25237650
Barchester chronicles?
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Beyond Good and Evil
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>>25237630
The Iliad of Homer- when the dude representing democracy is depicted as an elderly coward with a limp/ lame leg and Odysseus beats the crap out of him while everyone laughs
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>>25237630
woolf is my classist waifu
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>>25237630
This one. The goat. Imperium Press reissued it recently.
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>>25237630

Pretty much what this guy
>>25237630
says:
>Basically any book by a british author before 1950 unless its overtly socialist.

Look particularly at genre stuff (adventure, crime, children's, etc). It's not usually overtly political; it just presents the status quo as self-evidently the best way to organize things.

A few obvious examples off the top of my head:

— King Solomon's Mines (Haggard)
Party of three has one South African rough diamond, one well-to-do gentleman and one out-and-out aristocrat, and it's implied that the perfect society is one which enables fellows like these to go off and have adventures.

— The Wind In The Willows (Grahame)
Mole, Rat, Badger are sort of minor country gentlemen. Toad is the squire. The Wild Wooders who invade Toad Hall are wild-eyed bolsheviks who try to overturn the proper order of things and are given a sound and well-deserved thrashing, trousers down.

— Lord Peter Wimsey detective stories (Dorothy L. Sayers)
Wimsey is a nice guy who solves murder mysteries and has a manservant called Bunter. Any character who suggests that inherited wealth is wicked is invariably exposed as a hypocrite, wife-beater and all-round bad egg.

— The Thirty-Nine Steps (Buchan)
At one point the hero finds himself in a political meeting and listens to a well-meaning but stupid fellow give a speech advocating appeasement (the book is set on the brink of the First World War) wrapped up with socialist reform. Both are pretty much presented as wicked nonsense. (The appeasement is more what Buchan criticizes, but the assumption is still that the Tories are right and anyone else is a suspicious character.)
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>>25237786
I'm generally rather a right-wing person, but when I read these sorts of books - and in particular the part in Brideshead Revisited where that rich girl is going overseas to drive ambulances for the Spanish Nationalists (what right of is it of hers to get involved? she's just as bad as all those idiot anarchists - and just to protect the privileges of the elite) - I get this overwhelming feeling of wishing that hordes of Bolsheviks would sweep through the landed estates and teach all these pampered fops a lesson.
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>>25237680
It's ironic because Odysseus in the Odyssey comes back as a wretched beggar and is given shitty treatment by the nobles of his country
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>>25237816
Thats what happened in the October Revolution. Some surprise sex happened.
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Almost all media and books are because wage slaves are almost always exterminate from main characters unless they are live-in servants. There are a few "working class" books like Moby Dick but most books are specifically about the ideology of the non-wage-slave class
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>>25237630
I'm on book 9 of Anthony Powell's dance to the music of time. Absolutely loving it. Very similar in tone to Waugh, maybe more understated humour.
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>>25237816
Driving ambulances is a non combat humanitarian action though. And its in character for the Flytes as a catholic family to be outraged by the massacres of monks and nuns
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>>25237825
I wonder if Waugh would have enjoyed that.
>>25237850
Hmm, you're right. It's a little uncharitable of me. But it rubbed me the wrong way the way it was framed as protecting civilisation from the barbarian working classes (they talk about industrial strikes like it's some sort of horrible apocalyptic event) a kind of aristocratic internationalism... At the same time, I don't think Waugh's pessimistic diagnosis of the era of the mass man is entirely wrong.
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>>25237816
in what way are you right wing lmao?
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>>25237903
I'm racist, elitist, misogynist, and gay.
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>>25237915
my apologies. right this way, sir...
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>>25237630
The only cool thing about upper class people are suits and cigarette cases.
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>>25237868
He's got a woman's name so probably
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Can’t think of a book which “out elites” this one
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>>25237929
Cigarettes are for the underclass of thugs, pimps and blacks. Real noblemen smoke pipes.



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