D-do you guys vibe-writing at all like /g/ does with vibe-coding?
The difference is, a script just has to work. Writing has to be good for me to enjoy it.
>>25239520So, it just has to work?
>>25239525When I read anything written by AI, it makes me want to vomit. I don't care how a script is written as long as it does what I need it to do.
>>25239516I have attempted to use AI for critique and proofreading and its absolute braindeadness is never more obvious than with writing.It's rewrite suggestions are so laughably bad you can't even take the recommendation seriously.
>>25239516true writing already is vibe-writing. ridiculous to think you could be conscious of something as subtle as vibes while your brain is coupled up to AI. vibes are what you feel dimly moving around in your subconscious when you're searching for that perfect word, or trying to see how to get your stuck story moving again. they come of their own bidding whenever you're really attentive and immersed. when you're using AI you're not attentive and immersed; you're being driven through a landscape at high speed instead of exploring it yourself. and no vibes, no muses, no gods or spirits of your subconscious underworld will have opportunity to show themselves.
>>25239531Vibe-<verb> is not the same as AI produced. But your post once again says that you don't care about the source, just the result and at most you just say that so far you have not read anything (that you know of) that AI had a part in that worked for you. I am not an advocate of AI, but I am also not a fan of knee jerk reactionaries.
>>25239552You're saying I don't understand what vibe coding or vibe writing is. That's definitely possible. Feel free to tell me. I will assume you mean collaborating with AI to produce something. The way most people do it, it's asking the AI to write about a specified topic and then touching it up so it's not obvious it was AI-generated. That's no good. Look, your OP is a frog and your reply to me was a quippy "So, it just has to work?" so forgive me for not giving your post the thought it deserved.
>>25239516yea after I vibe write my diary I vibe shit all over my face :3
OP here. What vibe-doing means for me is not necessarily ai-writing. Doing something as a hobby, purely casually while using tools like ai for assistance. Not asking them to give you complete chapters or anything extensive.
>>25239613i hate you
>>25239570Your response to OP was quippy, why do you think you deserve more than you offer? OP is far too often a frog and if we just say OP is a frog we will end up nothing but frogs and seething about frogs. Or more likely, we will hand the board over to cat posters or anime posters, etc. Vibe<verb> is having AI deal with the boilerplate so you don't have to, vibe writing would be "write this sentence" instead of write this story and then doing the same for the next sentence and so one until you have a story; it keeps the bulk of the onus on the person. I have no idea if anything of worth has been written this way but I have no doubt things of worth could be written this way if you are willing to put in the time to first develop a style and teach the AI that style and run around in circles keeping AI in that style. Writing this way ultimately would just shift where you put your effort and probably would not save time unless you are writing highly formulaic things, for everything else it just shifts where you put in the time; crafting the perfect sentence vs crafting the prompt to get that sentence. If you spend all night fighting with AI to get that one paragraph perfect, is it really any different than spending all night rewriting it until it is perfect? It is still your idea and your idea of perfect and you did put in the time. I am a terrible programmer, I can get AI to write me programs which will do what I want but I can not vibe code anything because vibe coding requires an understanding of things which I don't understand. If I try to vibe code I end up with a broken program that is made up ofa bunch of well working blocks of code which all speak different languages, vibe writing is no different. Either way, swinging to the fences rarely is the sane response. AI is here to stay, learn to use it or seethe and become irrelevant. I am looking forward to see what people create with the help of AI even if it is unlikely I will ever use AI for writing, someone will figure out how to use it to write in ways we have never thought of.
>>25239613Usually, AI suggestions on how to improve both your story are cliche and cheesy. (Have you tried using metaphors or evocative imagery?) It's okay as a grammar checker but you have to be extra careful to avoid making any corrections that make your writing sound AI-generated. People keep repeating that AI writing is soulless and bland. You can check for yourself by asking it to write a 300 word short story. How would I use AI to help me write? One possibility that I haven't explored is the adversarial approach. Tell it to write something and then do everything in your power to write something completely different. You can also ask it to praise your writing if you need to feel better. AI is very good at finding merit in even the worst writing.
>>25239516No, I only use AI for research, but I always check the sources because 50% of the time it is hallucinating.
>>25239516I vibe skydive. It's when I shove a vibrator up my ass and tell the AI to skydive.It's just like the real thing. You WILL be replaced.
>>25239627Yes, if you train AI on a large enough corpus of work you've already written and you've written a lot of similar stories, I think the result should be good. So you're saying that vibe-whatever is using AI as a shortcut. That makes sense. But AI can't write good sentences. They're too polished and inoffensive to begin with. If you stack them one on top of each other blindly, nothing good is going to come out of it. When I write, I reread what I already wrote and write the next sentence so it matches the flow of the sentences I had previously written. AI would think to imitate its previous sentences, whereas I have to figure out what should come next to make a good story. Are you saying you want to have the AI suggest sentences that you edit? I do think it's silly that current writing advice implies that your first draft can be as horrible as you care for as long as you edit it enough. From a survival perspective, having to rely on AI to even write a sentence is going to be bad for your brain. I think the best realization of your idea is using AI as a tool to break writer's block. I don't know the details.When editing, I use AI as a wall to talk to (rubber-ducking). It's more of a matter of sitting around until I notice some error that the AI missed and fixing that.
>>25239516I use https://simonwillison.net/2026/Feb/10/showboat-and-rodney/ to generate documentation for programs but I don’t have these things write for me in a /lit/ senseAlso hi from >>>/g/vcg/
>>25239673Did you have AI summarize my post for you? If not, maybe you should, you completely missed every point I was making. This is not training the AI on a large enough corpus, this is guiding the AI to your goal and still requires you to understand everything important, which is why I can't vibe code and why someone who can't already write, can't get AI to write any better than they can. it will fall into all the traps they are ignorant of. Unless you have written thousands of pages which you can train the AI on, you can't train the AI to write in your style, you have to put in the time to get it to understand your style, which means you have to understand your style well enough to explain it to a retard. This is not a shortcut, it is shifting where you expend your time, you are rewriting the prompt to get that perfect sentence instead of rewriting that sentence. If you spend all night rewriting the prompt until you get the perfect sentence is it all that different from spending all night rewriting the sentence? This is not having AI create sentences for you to edit, this is fighting with the AI until it gives you the perfect sentence. It is a lot like trying to explain something to an anon.And just to repeat myself since that seems to be the theme here, I am basing this off of my using AI for coding, it can't do any better than I can and the only reason I can get a working program is because I can copy and paste the compiler errors. There are no compiler errors in literature. As far as literature goes I only use AI for the lols, but I have played with it enough that I am fairly confident that my parallels between vibe coding and vibe writing are accurate.
>>25239700>It's not X, it's Y.I am aware I am arguing with an AI. This is more as a brainstorming session for me since I am well aware it is impossible to engage with you directly. I am happy that you agreed that AI can mimic the style of a large corpus. You are still working off of the sentence that the AI has generated. If we were comparing this to coding with AI, it would be the difference between telling the AI to edit its answer, and rewriting your prompt so the AI gives a better answer. At a sentence level, there's not much of a difference.What are you searching for? Me to confirm that you can vibe-write just like you can vibe-code? But I see you don't even need that if you're so confident.
>>25239713>It's not X, it's Y.I don't think you understand what that means.I am not searching for anything, just reminding myself why I write, reasons which predate AI being able to write by nearly two decades.
>>25239516Hey, thanks a lot for getting me through my writer's block. You were very patient with me and I appreciate that.
>>25239750The one thing I use AI for in writing is what I used to use /lit/ for. Back in the day when I was stuck on something I would find a picture that had some vague and abstract relation to what I was writing and start a thread>in your best prose, picrelAI is poor substitute but far better than what /lit/ has become.
I am vibe writing something I like but only because I have the story, characters, intro, ending solidified beforehand. I'd never ask the robot to give me major things like that. Mostly I feed it the scenes I write to get a feedback from a writers' theory/techniques perspective. Since the robot has "read" all the existing books in the subject, and read all the novels ever.Maybe then ask it for ideas to expand the scene but most of the time I just do my own thing.It never quite 'gets' the feel I see in my head. (And evidently but my post help me clean up my English too).
so glad to read in the wsj this morning that openai missed both its internal revenue and growth targets. ai bubble is fucking done. sick of this ginmicky bullshit.
>>25239834>Since the robot has "read" all the existing books in the subject, and read all the novels ever. Are you the retard that keeps saying this in /wg/? That's not how it works. It doesn't have opinions, and even if it did why would you expect it to have taste having read mountains more of Amazon self-published secret-dogfucker dogshit aimed at women than canon works, by sheer density of population? Luckily that's not the case, because an LLM is a stochastic parrot. Look up the Chinese room argument.
>>25239963It knows theory not taste. I also use it with writing music and it's very good with frequencies and figuring out mastering problems. Ai is not all that bad.
>>25239516No that's for gays, coloreds, and women.
>>25239516Only for smuts.I only write smuts btw.
I was forced to use Grammarly at work and it was fucking annoying. I thought it was just just a normal spellcheck at first but the constant suggestions for editing for clarity would just get in the way. Sorry, I don't need help writing an email.
>>25239629no OP but AI is really good for research into any field, and giving you options for phrases or synonyms or very specific terms.
How can You tell that something is written by ai?What are the signs?
>>25242051You can't.
>>25240004>it knows theoryIt doesn't know anything. Take this from someone that has played around with LLMs years before ChatGPT existed, and studied machine learning in uni. All LLMs do is associate probabilities for word sequences in their dataset and carry off of the input string provided. For years it was awkward and stilted to try and converse with them because they were trained on large swathes of books. When ChatGPT went and trained on actual online conversations was when people started to personify the machine output, despite the underlying foundational technology being the same, because now they think it's talking to them. Do you think hallucinations are just the model being a little silly at times? No, it has no basis for truth or falsity. It is exactly the same as someone being amazed they got rid of the red and blue anaglyph 3D glasses for the RealD ones and then expecting to be able to touch the movie because it's no longer in two colors.
>>25242051Bottom line? You can't.AI has advanced to the point of human-level writing. It's not just 'mimicking' human speech — it's mastering communication.
>>25242440It still works. It's great for editing and can help fix audio mastering issues very precisely. Replace the word "knows" if that's the issue with it can then.
>>25242450I am suspicious of em dashes and sensational words like "it has mastered language". You might be a robot.
>>25242450>>25242484It is. Clearly its either an AI response, or he's "mimicking" AI writing. Human win.
>>25239613What it means to you is irrelevant. Vibe-coding specifically refers to using AI to write software, without looking at the code, period. It's for retards, it removes the art of writing code, and it makes your shitty software full of gaping security holes, much akin to the anuses of vibe-coders themselves.
>>25239516It's called stream of consciousness
