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Why do big tech nerds not understand the literary works they claim to love?
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It would be hilarious seeing Tolkien call Thiel an enormous faggot
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>>25242867
>you have to adhere to my warped perception of media literacy or I can arbitrarily decide you're retarded
This petulant mindset is why your side always loses
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>>25242884
Why do you assume OP is left-wing
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>>25242884
>warped perception
Tolkien quite literally stated his disgust for the abuses of big industry. The elves are meant to be the opposite, positive side of this disdain. They blend infrastructure with nature instead of trying to destroy it, and their works actually last longer while the capitalistic materials of Mordor always break and degrade—sort of like real world technology now (my grandpa’s freezer from fifty years ago still works while the ones you guy today break after one year so they can get more money out of you sooner when you buy a brand new one).

You’d know this had you read his letters.
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>>25242892
>guy
buy*
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>>25242884
You sound like you watched and loved the Rings of Power. Maybe you should kill yourself.
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>>25242867
The palantir is a device that allows Sauron and Sauruman to spy on their enemies. Palantir is a company that specializes in spying on people.
Thiel is perfectly aware that he’s the bad guy here, he’s not even trying to hide it.
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>>25242916
He's even starting to look like an orc.
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>>25242867
Tolkien if he saw leftists claiming that Frodo is gay and that the Catholic message isn't important.
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>>25242916
Didn’t he say he approves of that one fanfic that has Sauron as the actual hero of middle earth
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>>25242892
Your grandfather bought a freezer from elves?
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>>25242953
He’s poking at the increasingly obvious fact that modern day technology isn’t built to last. They don’t want you to buy a thing that you won’t ever have to buy again. The elves make things that last. Mordor does not. This is brought up by Tolkien.

That’s the dark side of capitalism for you.
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>>25242884
Tolkien hated big industry you fucking imbecile tourist.
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>>25242867
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>>25243015
It really is cringe seeing people like Sam Altman act so bloody naive about art. He thinks art has become “democratized” — and perhaps it has — but this is only reducing the bar for artistic IQ. It will be harder and harder to identify true soul. Humans won’t be investing themselves into art the way they once did. Human investment is lost.

I don’t hate Sam Altman. He’s just an autistic and naive Jew boy. If he didn’t do it, then someone else would have. It’s the same with the atomic bomb. This trajectory would have happened sooner or later. The AI scourge of soulessness cannot be stopped and we cannot really blame anyone for it when it’s already out of the bag. Like all things this is just a new frontier to step into and make the best out of.
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>>25243022
What’s hilarious is seeing Sam Altman praise Indians for being so “creative” with AI. Lol, lmao even.
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>>25242889
Kek and absolutely pwned
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Sam Altman: “AI is a net win for human creativity”

If you aren’t brown maybe
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>>25242884
Bait but just in case it isn’t Tolkien is on record saying what his work is about. I get the reddit cope of “muh current year interpretation is… le TRUE!!” but LOTR’s intent is literally on paper. Go play in traffic, faggot
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>>25242916
This is the true red pill. He knows what he’s doing and doesn’t give a fuck.
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>>25243022
God he’s such a faggot. Creativity isn't being democratized when it's being industrialized and turned into a product.

Literally a dystopia novel premise where a big corpo sells the ability to be creative and the general populace can no longer create without it.
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>>25243046
>Just pay this $50 monthly subscription to get a license to Create!
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>>25242884
You are an Epsteinite
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>>25243022
>If he didn’t do it, then someone else would have. It’s the same with the atomic bomb. This trajectory would have happened sooner or later. The AI scourge of soulessness cannot be stopped and we cannot really blame anyone for it when it’s already out of the bag. Like all things this is just a new frontier to step into and make the best out of.

But what sucks is that to compete with this level of soulessness we have to become just as soulless as they are, whilst still retaining on to the very thing that put the white man ahead - CREATIVITY.
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>>25243015
You don't hate them enough.
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>>25242884
When you read and interpret literature, do you presort your interpretations by some retarded metric like whether or not they're "woke" or "based?"
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The vast majority of China and India have embraced AI like some sort of new divine entity or fairy to call upon.

This means their collective IQs are about to plummet from an overload of offloading cognitive tasks and critical thinking skills.

That’s nice.

Meanwhile people in the West are quite cautious about it.
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>>25242867
I hate Lord of the rings fans so fucking much.
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time traveler: your work inspired us to go to war with Persia and Christianize their people
tolkien: wowww :)
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>>25243090
More like whether they are retarded or smart I bet.
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>>25243090
The old style of interpretation was insistent, but respectful; it erected another meaning on top of the literal one. The modern style of interpretation excavates, and as it excavates, destroys; it digs “behind” the text, to find a sub-text which is the true one.
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>>25242867
they do understand them and they enjoy subverting them
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>no muh heckin media literacy that guy from the Boys is the BAD heckin guy
>no heckin sauron is le bad guy even though his enemies brought us to where we are today
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>>25243169
You can run industry nicely or not so nicely anon. This isn’t really hard to get.
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Despite their love for Israel I have come to realise that Palantir is ultimately a force for good
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>>25243241
The Palantir isn’t good or evil you retard. It’s how it is used. Marketing is also evil. Fuck you. Tolkien despised people who used the names of things they didn’t understand.

Tolkien himself commented on the irony of industrialists naming themselves after myths they clearly don't understand:

"Even if people have ever heard the legends (which is getting rarer) they have no inkling of their portent. How could a maker of motorbikes name his product Ixion cycles! Ixion, who was bound for ever in hell on a perpetually revolving wheel!" -JRR Tolkien

Naming your company after the thing that got abused by industrialists is a bit of a bad look.
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>>25243253
Hey man I don't really care about all that
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>>25243258
Then why are you even in this thread?
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>>25242867
I'm convinced it's autism causing black and white thinking and inability to make inferences and understand nuance
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>>25243171
Nicely is subjective. You can gently crush a suil, or harshly crush a soul, but which is nicely is subjective.
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>>25243264
it's a thread about tech companies
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>>25242920
looks like meats back on the menu BOOOOOYSSS
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>>25242867
Why do you think that naming a company "Palantir" is equivalent to not Understanding a piece of genre fiction? Is it autism?
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>>25243253
>Tolkien despised people who used the names of things they didn’t understand.
Can you show me a quote where Tolkien says something to this effect?
>Naming your company after the thing that got abused by industrialists is a bit of a bad look.
Then what about naming it after something that a noble race created to keep tabs on each other?
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>>25243272
mindless robot on literal treads kek
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>>25243271
Ok. In that case, there really is no saving the delusional retards in this thread. They will go to the grave thinking that Thiel is raping them in the ass every time they go to bed.
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>>25243290
I'm a lot smarter than you
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>>25242884
I don't necessarily agree with you, but its nice that you bodied that leftoid.
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>>25243046
It is being democratized. It allows people without skill to compete directly with people who have skill. It gives them direct access to almost any art they want.
God I fucking hate progressivism. Sam Altman and his ilk are all just crypto communists who eant to live in the fucking Culture where human beings are reduced to being a bunch of retarded bonobos who do nothing but fuck and munch on fruit. We ought to exterminate these people.
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>>25243295
He is (nicely)
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>>25243288
He literally provided a quote in that post.

Can you fucking read?
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>>25243046
>and the general populace can no longer create without it.
People who say this are mindless drones who could never create art anyway.
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>>25243271
If you think there isn’t such a thing as root decency, you are beyond salvation. Not doing something to someone you wouldn’t want done to yourself is pretty fucking basic, buddy.
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>>25243307
That’s not democratization. It’s the lowering of the artistic IQ. When everyone can do a special thing it’s no longer special and thus no longer treated sacredly.
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>>25242867
>>25242889
NTA but it's because only left wingers believe that understanding media = agreeing in absolutely everything with it
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>>25243313
That doesn't really have anything to do with what he said. Also, very few people genuinely believe what you just typed. Everyone thinks that certain people should be harmed.
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>>25243313
Society is based on the cattle being exploited by the elite and *always has been*.
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>>25243317
That is democratization. It gives millions of people with no artistic ability or drive or means to become a good artist an easy way to create almost any artwork they want. That is democratization, social levelling.
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>>25243317
You are describing democratisation
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>>25243317
>artistic IQ.
People just blurt out anything these days.
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>>25243312
And you’re one of them. You fucking brown skinned shit stuffer.
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>>25243321
>Everyone thinks that certain people should be harmed.
Yes. The people who harm other people should be harmed.

Strange how you can’t do that extra step of thinking.
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>>25243339
Not at all. I am practicing art and my sibling is an artist
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>>25243340
>. The people who harm other people should be harmed.
Then you do not actually believe in that golden rule nonsense. You believe in rationalizing harm against people you hate and perceive as harmful. If anything, harm is subjective.
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>>25243326
That's not happening. Rather standardization is increasing, mass-manufacture, which is now crude enough to employ maximum numbers of artists whose ideas can be stripped and exploited as quickly and easily as possible. McDonald's is not about making everyone able to learn how to culinary skills
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>>25243340
>Strange how you can’t do that extra step of thinking.
Jesus Christ. What causes these ridiculous dunning-krugerites to be this snarky?
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>>25243346
>Then you do not actually believe in that golden rule nonsense
LMAO, no, I just know that sometimes to keep that golden rule alive you have to preserve it.

Tolkien abided by the ‘golden rule’ and he still saw war as a necessary evil. He also hated how it was glorified. You should not be proud to do a necessary evil.

I don’t even know why I’m talking to such a dishonest brownoid like yourself though.
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>>25242867
Tolkien was a massive Zionist conservatard. He would be the first one to cheer on Israeli war crimes
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>>25243352
So you really think wars don’t serve a purpose? Yes, anon. Sometimes you have to kill bad people who do bad things to others, to protect those others.

You don’t tolerate the people who won’t abide by the bare minimum of human decency. This is why Israel bombed the fuck out of evil was Palestinians who want to see all Jews fucking dead. Good fucking riddance. Tolkien would have supported that bare minimum of retaliation.
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>>25243355
>Israeli war crimes
Oh cry me a river you shit covered sand person. Israel has bent over backwards for the Arabs living around them and you can only accuse them of le bullying.

You are sick. Jews can barely even live anywhere else in the Middle East in safety you fuckhead.
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>>25243351
No. What is happening is literally democratization, social-levelling, allowing people without the means to be good artists to easily compete directly with good artists or not rely on artists for generating art. Just because you are a retarded leftist who likes democratic fully automatic faggot communism or whatever does not mean that your insistence that democratization isn't actually democratization is true.
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>>25243326
>>25243367
Lol. Look at this Indian. Coping about his AI art.

You are not an artist.
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>>25243362
I'm not going to disagree with your tangent. All I am going to say is that you don't actually believe in that golden rule nonsense. Retaliation is not christian. Turning the other cheek and martyrdom is.
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>>25243369
What the fuck are you talking about? I think that democratization is a bad thing you fucking troglodyte.
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>>25243370
>All I am going to say is that you don't actually believe in that golden rule nonsense
Nope. I do. You’re just coping. You think the golden rule is “let’s just not find back and let ourselves get fucking slaughtered”. That’s not decent at all. That is going out of your way to be indecent to your own. You clearly don’t value their survival.

You have lost all survival instinct. You’re like those gays who go to Gaza parades. You’d get fucking killed in reality over in Palestine.
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>>25243367
Slop does not and never will compete with fine art. You are delusional. Like saying imported French cheese and wine are in competition with big macs and sodas. Slop only exists to ruin your mind, since critical thinkers are bad consumers and laborers, or your health, since a shorter life expectancy means your employers don't have to pay for your retirement, and even fat people cost less in healthcare due to shorter lives.

Truffles didn't disappear. Champagne didn't disappear. These things just became off-limits to the working class.
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>>25243374
>You’re just coping.
Nope. That's what you are doing.
>You have lost all survival instinct.
Nope. I'm not a real christian.
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>>25243372
I meant to quote >>25243351 sorry fellow troglodyte.

This thread is making me fucking vapid.
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>>25243376
What the fuck are you even talking about? Why are you always trying to make this be about your weird sadomasochism? You are a retarded freak who believes that an AI image is bad because it unbalances your chakras or something. I hate it because I don't like democratization.
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>Tolkien knew well the tension of technology and the threat of the machine. Tolkien explains the use of magic in his mythos and how it relates to machinery. Tolkien had thought through, with great clarity, the difference between the magic of the elves and that of Mordor.

>He observes that the hobbits do not understand the difference between the magic powers exercised by the elves and that of Sauron: “the Elven queen Galadriel is obliged to remonstrate with the Hobbits on their confused use of the word [magic] both for the devices and operations of the Enemy and for those of the Elves.” Tolkien says the lack of a proper word (other than “magic”) for the work of the elves portrays the same confusion in our own minds and mythologies.

>He goes on to explain the difference: “Their [the elves’] ‘magic’ is Art, delivered from many of its human limitations: more effortless, more quick, more complete (product, and vision in unflawed correspondence). And its object is Art not Power, sub-creation not domination and tyrannous re-forming of Creation.”

>Tolkien elucidates the dilemmas we face as technology snowballs and threatens to blow up in our face. Put simply, the magic of Mordor is the machinery of murder. It is the pursuit of power for its own sake, and perceives the natural world merely as a raw material to be exploited, distorted, and destroyed. In the films, we see this in full display as the wizard Saruman destroys Fangorn—chewing up the forest to fuel his machines of war. The realms of the Elves, in contrast, at Rivendell and Lothlorien, are havens of harmony, beauty, and peace created by elven magic.

>The distinction elucidates our own continued, confused, modern relationship to technology. Do we use our increasingly sophisticated gadgetry and expanding knowledge in an elvish, creative, and artful way to bring light, beauty, and truth to the world, or do we use technology to manipulate, make money, and thus gain more power in the world?
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Once again, Tolkien was the Jordan Peterson of his time. He wasn't even on the level of a gripper tradcath. He was "to the left" of Peter Hitchens. (Same with C.S. Lewis)
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>>25243402
Pedo Thiel bros, we goonin’ good with thus one
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>>25243390
I hate it because it is slop. You are the one insisting slop is democratization and that is why it's bad, which is laughable. There is nothing democratic about the neoreactionary movement, just the opposite, they hate democratization. Democracy is what gave birth to Greek critical thought
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>>25243366
>Jews can barely even live anywhere else in the Middle East in safety you fuckhead
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>>25243402
Are you really this pissed that Tolkien held normal English views on Jews when Disraeli was their PM?
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>>25243367
> allowing people without the means to be good artists to easily compete directly with good artists or not rely on artists for generating art
What the fuck. Do you not understand just how soulless and un-artistic this sounds? They’re not artists they’re using technology to print out images for them. Is pressing a button a form of art?

I’d sooner argue having tact for AI art is what is really art. Blending it without it coming across as soulless. AI is a tool and should be used as such, not as some wholesale creator for something. Not yet.
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>>25243406
So you admit you’re just a Jew hating faggot who doesn’t actually want to think logically or coherently. You just hate them for the sake of hating them. When you accuse them of committing a genocide you don’t actually care, because in reality you want to genocide them instead. You are mad that your preferred genocide isn’t happening. Wow. From the river to the sea, amirite?
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>>25243390
> because it unbalances your chakras or something
It does. It makes you lose appreciation. Art is no longer an isolated affair of wonder anymore. It’s just… yeah…
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>>25243418
>hating non-Jewish semites is okay tho
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>>25243405
>You are the one insisting slop is democratization
That is the only coherent explenation of slop as a social phenomenon. It is a form of social levelling.
>There is nothing democratic about the neoreactionary movement
Very true. That's why Sam Altman is a crypto communist and Curtis Yarvin is a neo-luddite which anyone who actually knew anything about neoreaction other than what their retarded and permanently anxious friends told them about it would be aware of. Christ, leftists need to be exterminated. They are hopelessly retarded.
>Democracy is what gave birth to Greek critical thought
You are a retard who has never seriously read Plato or Aristotle or all the other writers who despised democracy, which were pretty much all the noteworthy ones. Democratic athens was a direct democracy ruled by petty cliques and delirious demagogues who were rightfully humiliated by Sparta in the Peloponnesian war, but not before they decided, via democratic plepiscite, do exterminate the mytileneans.
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>>25243418
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>>25243412
Not surprised, just disappointed
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>>25243437
Why? Hitler was doing then exactly what Israel is, "my race is special, we need lebensraum, other races should give us their property". You sound like a Jew throwing a pissy fit when a conservative won't say he hates Palestinians
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>>25243424
I hate them because all they do is whine and blow themselves up for no reason. They were given billions to make a state for themselves and they decided to cause more terrorism. It’s clear that Arabs aren’t capable people. They’re too emotional to think rationally. Notice how they always bite the hand that feeds them?

They attacked Egypt after Egypt helped them.
They attacked Jordan after Jordan helped them.
They attacked Israel after Israel helped them.
They attacked Lebanon aster Lebanon helped them.

There’s a very good reason why Egypt doesn’t let aid into Palestine. There’s a very good reason why Jordan begged for Israel’s assistance in getting rid of their Palestinian refugees. There’s a very good reason why Lebanon was a former tourist hot spot filled with Christians before they got fucking massacred by Palestinians coming in. There’s a very good reason why Iranians/Persians don’t want Islam in their nation and are tearing down Mosques. Iran only became Muslims because of retarded leftists who let them in. Oh, and then those leftists got killed right after once their usefulness was gone.

The Arab world doesn’t even care about their own or other Muslims. The global Islamic world doesn’t give a single fuck when China starts rounding up their Muslims into castration camps, like an actual fucking genocide (what Israel did was just war).

God damn you’d have to be retarded to ever support Arabs and Muslims. They haven’t made a single nation better. Ever. Anywhere in history. The Islamic golden age only happened because of a pre existing culture of intellectualism in Persia. It was actually just a second Persian golden age.

Iranians don’t want Islam. Fuck off.
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>>25243444
> Hitler was doing then exactly what Israel is
Imagine being this stupid
Please gas yourself

The Jews GAVE land to Palestinians you huge faggot. They GAVE them jobs and BILLIONS. The entire world gave them BILLIONS.
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>>25243414
>They’re not artists they’re using technology to print out images for them.
Sorry, but I do not feel like having a pointless argument with some retard, who in all likelihood isn't even an artist, about who is or isn't a "real artist."
First of all, art in our modern world is focused almost solely on the artworks and not the process or the artist. AI generates artworks that are novel (as in, not made before) in a cheap and convenient way for anyone who is literate. If you refuse to call it "art" or the person who uses the machine an "artist" then I suppose there isn't anything to lament after all. But I can't really bothered to dicker over these words again
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>>25243446
>They haven’t made a single nation better. Ever. Anywhere in history

Who were we talking about again?
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>>25243450
And Hitler gave the Jews land and BILLIONS. Hell, the entire world did.
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>>25243454
Jews? Jews have contributed immensely to the sciences. Twenty percent of Nobel laureates in fact. Arabs haven’t done a thing since like eight hundred years.
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>>25243450
>>25243444
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>>25243462
Did Israel round up Palestinians and toss them into the gas chambers?

Do you also think that Iran isn’t any worse than America? Is your name Don Lemon? Are you a lemon?
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>>25243464
Heh heh. Obama and Kissinger won nobels. I don't consider those awards any more meaningful than the academy awards

There is of course a massive difference between Germany and Israel. Germany contributed enormously to world literature, art, music, architecture, industrialization.
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>>25243468
Name one jew that the SS actually gassed between 1939 and 1945.
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>>25243468
Israel herds Palestinian women and children into closely clustered tents and then incinerates them alive. Israel cuts off their food and water. It's the same shit.
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>>25243453
> First of all, art in our modern world is focused almost solely on the artworks and not the process or the artist
Wrong.

Dead fucking wrong.

AI can now generate images more beautiful than almost anything most humans could make. Sam Altman just explained why nobody cares.

“The value that people put on that effectively rounds to zero.”

Not less valuable. Zero.

A flawlessly generated AI image, technically superior to almost anything a human could produce, valued at nothing.

When visual perfection becomes instantly available to everyone, it stops being scarce. And when it stops being scarce, it stops being valuable. The magic is lost.

The scarcity that gave art its worth was never the beauty. It was the human who made it. The soul put into it.

We don’t consume art. We consume the person behind it. The struggle. The intention. The human consciousness that decided this particular thing should exist.

AI can replicate the output. It cannot replicate the origin. The soul.

Altman points out that if an artist uses AI as a tool but still has something they were trying to express, the work may or may not retain value. Maybe.

Regardless. The human intention is the product. The image is just how it arrives.

Remove the person and the soul is lost.

This is what nobody building AI art tools fully absorbed. They optimized for the output and assumed the output was what people valued. It wasn’t. It was never the pixels. It was always the person.

AI isn’t going to replace human artists. It’s going to do something more disorienting. It’s going to make technical skill irrelevant and raise the bar for detecting true soul. Artistic IQ is going to drop into the abyss.

Presence. Intention. Proof that a human consciousness cared enough to make a particular thing.

Abundance makes perfection free. But meaning can’t be automated. Because meaning requires a conscious narrative to say something.

The artists who survive won’t be the most technically gifted. They’ll be the most undeniably human. AI gave the world infinite art and proved that what we actually want is irreplaceable.
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>>25242867
what is there to understand? i love lord of the ring - wargames / vidya
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>>25243470
The Nobel peace prize is a meme prize you huge idiot. Nobody cares about that one for a reason. Also Kissinger didn’t even want it. I bet you didn’t even KNOW that.
>>25243475
> Israel herds Palestinian women and children into closely clustered tents and then incinerates them alive
You are fucking hilarious.
> Israel cuts off their food and water. It's the same shit.
Israel built them their water pipes moron. It’s Hamas that turned them into bombs and it’s Hamas that forces Israel to cut off power.
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>>25243485
Of course, you're the chosen people, the master race, so killing the ratlike untermenschen for lebensraum pleases you. You see your race as superior and entitled to the land and money of adjacent races. Then claim you uplift them by obliterating their schools and hospitals.

Master race, chosen people, it's the same fucking ideology. That's why Hannah Arendt said Zionism is Nazism for Jews.
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>>25243476
I do not think you genuinely belive in a coherent idea pf a "soul"
I also do not care that you are blatantly ignorant about art history.
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>>25243476
I will say this though
>It’s going to make technical skill irrelevant
True. I once wrote an essay about this.
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>>25243509
> I also do not care that you are blatantly ignorant about art history.
You think people didn’t fight to the death over the interpretation (soul) of art? LMAO what do you think religion even is? Not a form of art? You think Romans didn’t fight with the Greeks to replace the head of their statue of Zeus with their emperor’s own?
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>>25242884
>warped perception
Fuckin lmao
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>>25243476
This was written with a LLM.
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>>25243547
You sound threatened.
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>>25243563
I don't just sound threatened -- I sound *triggered.*
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>>25243582
You did it——wrongly.
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>>25242867
Still waiting for some quirky tech bro to call something awful the torment nexus.
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>>25243530
>LMAO what do you think religion even is? Not a form of art?
When crusades were still a thing, people thought that "art" meant any craft at all from carpentry to medicine. You also have no coherent idea of a "soul"
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>>25243083
the problem isn't not hating them enough, the problem is that hating them isn't enough. All we can do is gnash our teeth.
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>>25243495
Most israelis do not believe they are superior for being in a covenant with God.
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>>25242867
The kind of people that run successful companies often lack introspection and self-awareness.
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>>25243612
That’s just common sense. Art is inseparable from literally anything you do. The word artifice comes from art. Cooking is an art as well as an science. It’s chemistry. Math is art. All technology is technically a form of art.

Although morons today obsessed with boxing everything into redundant boxes would argue otherwise.

Even AI art is technically art. This entire conversation is built around that old Australian saying “that’s not a knife, THIS is a Knife!”, just replace knife/Knife with art/Art. Yes, it’s all in the eye of the beholder. Doesn’t mean one’s mind’s eye isn’t a piece of shit, though. What Indians think is art is NOT Art.
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>>25242884
Talk about kicking the hornets nest, jesus fucking christ.
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>>25243612
Are you saying ancient Christians wouldn’t find a sacredness in their statues of their Lord and Savior? You’re saying they wouldn’t be offended if some Indian drew a depiction of Jesus shitting?
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The only people who defend AI art are the sort of people who don’t understand the logic behind magic and wonder.

“When everyone’s special, no one will be”

It’s that bloody simple. You cannot deny that art is being diluted.
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>>25243626
This is not how we see art today. Art today focuses on the product as a form of self-expression or a thing to be interpreted. It isn't a craft anymore, which implies standardized knowledge of particular skills, specialization. That's the old "art." The art that Socrates talks about in the dialogues.
I don't care if you are a subjectivist who insists that your not-reasoned-for subjective opinion is better than another. What you do amounts to apish shitflinging.
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>>25243637
You can defend AI art and still acknowledge all of that. It’s changing frontiers as >>25243022 said. Artistic appreciation is going to simultaneously get dumbed down and get raised higher. But for the most part it’s going to get dumbed down.
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>>25243634
No. I am saying that you do not know what you are talking about. I doubt you even read enough books to warrant posting here.
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>>25243637
None of you were ever special, you had just captured the institutions. Now people will have to be actually exceptional to compete against AI slop.
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>>25243639
>This is not how we see art today
Debatable. Some still see it as artificial expression. The artificial is arguably inseparable from what is expressed.
>Art today focuses on the product as a form of self-expression or a thing to be interpreted
See >>25243476
>it isn’t craft anymore
Debatable. Just considering something to be Art is a form of mental craft.
>which implies standardized knowledge of particular skills, specialization
This is idiotic. We’re still building shit.
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>>25243643
You, a person who is full of shit, claiming someone else is full of shit? Lol.
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>>25243639
Socrates would have hated AI because it is the thing he thought books would be.
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>>25243022
Altman isn't some tech genius, retard. He was one of hundreds of people who put the initial capital up, but contributed fuck all to the actual development. The only difference between him and all the others was that he was psychopathic enough to perform a hostile takeover when they finally had a working product and immediately cut everyone else out.
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>>25243666
He didn't just invest, retard. He was the CEO of his own company at 19 and he accrued millions of dollars. He founded and actually led the research labs on AI.
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>>25243083
>30s millionaire was also behind kiki camarena
Trust fund babies should be killed at birth.
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>>25244094
samefag here
LOLing at the coincidence of a trust fund baby -defending golem right above me LOL
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>>25243708
He didn't lead shit you dumb fucking retard, he was the guy begging for money and then tricking people into working for free
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>>25242878
>two_faggots_fighting.jpeg
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>>25243320
No one is forcing Thiel to agree with Tolkien on everything. The issue is he names all his companies after Tolkien despite clearly not agreeing with any of Tolkien's values. Which means his intent is to SUBVERT Tolkien, not to honor him.
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The biggest issue with AI right now is people seem to treat LLMs as some outside, Independent, omnipotent force. But it's not, these are services provided by a large corporation. They're not even products that you buy, like a calculator or typewriter, or even a computer, although Microsoft is trying to destroy the concept of a personal computer. It's a SERVICE. The terms of that service can change at any time, and the specific LLM, whether it's Claude, ChatGPT, Grok, etc. is a black box that you have no control over and can change at any time. Becoming too dependant on something so ephemeral and subject to the whims of billionaires, politics and the market seems completely insane. Transhumanism is a civizational shit test, who will leave their biological and mental autonomy in the hands of some of the most repulsive people alive?
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>>25242884
Yeah sure he loves it when tech companies who use names from his works help the US military bomb school girls in Iran. We are so woke for not seeing this.
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>>25242867
>I CAN SUCK MORE JEWISH DICK THAN YOU CAN
>NOBODY CAN SUCK THAT GIFTED PEOPLES' COCKS LIKE I CAN
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>>25242892
>The elves
The based elves
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>>25242934
>>25243367
>>25243429
>>25243446
See how only extremely unintelligent people use the term "leftist"? It's like code for saying "I'm retarded"
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>>25244500
He named Palantir after the evil spying device, which is what the company is, an evil spying device.

How is this not a valid naming convention.
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>>25243637
If you can't compete against AI slop then it's on you. I mean really, if you can't distinguish between AI art and real art you lack the training and soul.
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>>25244612
Most bad guys atleast pretend to be the good guys lmfao.
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>>25244622
Someone already pointed that out. That the collective artistic IQ is going to drop. The bar or threshold for defecting true art or true soul is going to raise.
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>>25242916
Except that wasn't their original purpose.
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Idk thiel does strike me as a sarumon type figure
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>>25244687
Can't you use the AI tools to improve your art and it's experience though? I mean it's a really good tutor, for me it only has benefits as of now.
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>>25242884
>If you dislike Jewish led the coming surveillance state you are le hekkin otherwise!!!
Kill yourself ASAP, I mean it. You are worth absolutely nothing to nobody and are a detriment to whatever cause you choose to embrace.
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>>25242916
disgusting reptile-looking subhuman. someone send him to a camp.
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>>25243296
>brain go DUDRRRRRRR
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>>25242884
I love how you tards always out yourselves. Your entire worldview is based on memes made by fellow retards. You can't even see someone pointing out a blatant corruption of Tolkien's legacy without defaulting to an argument you saw on twitter that doesn't even apply here. Genuinely kill youself.
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>>25243644
I love how """"""conservatives"""""" are now anti-art, anti-culture, and anti-human. It was always a facade, you just want AI slop fed to you by multinational corporations and hide behind the paper-thin veneer of "owning the libs" by despising actual culture and humanity.

>UM BU ACKCHYUALLY UH SOME FURRY ARTIST ON TUMBLR WAS MAD SO -
"No!"
You know for a fact that the vast majority of painters, writers, and poets are not xenderqueer otherkin on tumblr. You just want slop and you have no defence. You are a nigger.
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>>25245131
I'm not even a Republican but you got effectively owned. Take the L and move on.
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>>25243322
And then you get surprised Pikachu face when someone like Pol Pot just flattens you.
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>>25244587
What's wrong with being retarded anyways? Lower IQ people tend to reproduce more.
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>>25244855
>Can't you use the AI tools to improve your art and it's experience though
Can’t people use CGI to improve edges and make things more seamless in movies during production? Yes. But they rarely do. “Let’s just make it all CGI”.
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>>25245131
they hated him because he spoke the truth
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>>25245536
Cope more you bitch
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>>25245536
>screencapping your own post
Embarassing.
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>>25245536
This but for leftists and 2 years ago
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>>25243476
if i showed this to everyone in america they would all ignore it, say it doesnt happen, say its a good thing. what were up against is people who love adultery, kidnapping, enslavement, and hate fatherhood and marriage. theres no debating with these subhuman filth. they must simply be set on fire. how can i use art to set the subhuman amerifuck cattle on fire like the israeli red cows
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>>25245114
Who are you quoting?
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>>25242867
There is a company called SkyNet that helps develop AI. Tech nerds are retarded.
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>>25243355
Tolkien was a pre-Vatican 2 catholic, the church was very much in the business of saying that the jews have no right to the holy land and should only be allowed to exist so that when they are converted, even the killers of Christ must bend down to their king.



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