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coughing up blood edition

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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>/wng/ authors.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSNZali-jIk2MASsAWVf8N7A8BlSyzPbAFV_BhsA5Ip3SWfMPWKxaXf8Pdb7f0TgFyWis31BzirtPeR/pubhtml


>Advice for Noobs!

##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##

Running your story like the business it is:
www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847

On writing web serials:
alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/

Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLY

Recommended web novels
rentry.co/d2yvczro

Anon's guide to success
rentry.co/RRBasicGuide

FAQ
rentry.co/pytefpxn
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read Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi
it's peak
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>>25245206
RIfag mogs you
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>>25245206
I only read novels with more than 1000 pages
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>>25245206
I only read novels with less than 1000 pages
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>>25245206
I only read novels with 1000 pages
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I only read RI
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You guys read?
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I’ve finished Ascendance of a Bookworm. While I still don’t like the prose of these Light Novels, I do get why they get popular, it’s in the name. Very breezy reads. I think it started really well, but I started disliking it when it got bogged down in things that I found extremely boring. The worldbuilding was surprisingly good, but the character work is pretty awful. And then the pacing of the last part is just extremely weird. Books and books about nothing, then an insanely accelerated race towards the ending. Was this forced?
And so many plot threads started and just ended going nowhere. I won’t even list them all. The things I found very interesting were always so brief, and then followed by words and words of what a child thinks politics looks like.
But, I still read 33 volumes of it, so I’ll rate it a solid 6.5/10. Maybe it’s overly harsh coming just off the Elf Book That Makes People Mad. I’ll probably be doing a review of that this weekend.
Given what I thought about this, any light novels that you could recommend? This is the first one I’ve read to completion. For me, the next is probably LOTM volume 3? Not sure.
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>>25245206
>fmc
>probably female author
>>25245271
>read 33 volumes of fmc written by female author
you both are foids right? kys
read RI before that tho, it’s peak
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please stop saying "foid" as it is a microaggression
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>>25245274
I tried reading Reverend Insanity, it was insanely boring.
Also what the FUCK are gu?
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please stop saying "foid" as you make the word less insulting by association with your faggot ass
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>>25244690
>I just don't buy that this was all just some deranged invented fantasy by the author
The author has already invented deranged fantasies concerning follow-botting his story to reach some arbitrary follow goals. What's one more?
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>>25245280
Meant for >>25245276
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>>25245278
>RI boring
>but I read 33 volumes of AfB
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I’ve tried reading RI and just no. I got filtered. I read until he got out of the initial village. I won’t even bring up the prose because it’s translated so idk how the original language reads like. But at the time, I remember thinking that nobody above the age of 13 could really like this edgy power fantasy slop. But I guess there’s a lot of people out there.
>>25245285
Yes, I’ve done this but unironically.
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>>25245271
Practical Guide to Sorcery is something I usually recommend for people. All the books are on Annas archive
some other recommendations:
>Infernal Investigations
>The Flower that Bloomed Nowhere
>Outrun
>An Arsonist and a Necromancer Walk into a Bar
>REND
>Keeper of Totality
>Memories of the Fall
>Magic-Smithing
>Guild Mage
>Changeling
>Reforged from Ruin
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>>25245290
>Infernal Investigations
0.5 stars
>REND
tranny shit, 0.5 stars
>Magic-Smithing
kinda fun, will never be finished, 3 stars
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>>25245290
I love Practical Guide to Sorcery and it’s definitely one of the best works on Royal Road.
Have you read The Elf Who Became A Dragon? And I’ll be noting all these down. Are any of these finished?
Someone else with similar taste also told me about Katalepsis, have you read that?
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>>25245271
There are few, if any, "good" light novels, but among those, I would argue I'm a Spider, So what? (minus the ending, unfortunately); at the very least, the first 5 or 6 volumes.
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>>25245298
>Practical Guide to Sorcery
the foid author is incapable of writing male characters, the foid mc is kinda annoying, book 6 was painful, 4 stars
>Katalepsis
tranny shit, 0.5 stars
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>>25245301
What is it about? Someone talked about Youjo Senki. I definitely won’t be reading LNs which are very anime if you get what I mean. Not that I’m looking down on anime or something, I love anime, but reading that sort of dialogue in a book feels quite cringe.
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>>25245298
I just picked a lot of novels from my list with a female MC to upset the local schizo
The Elf Who Became a Dragon was boring imo, I do not get the appeal, but maybe you'll like it.
Katalepsis is INSANELY gay, probably the most gay novel I've ever read (though I did not get far), and I've read a lot of stuff
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>>25245302
4 stars out of what, 5? or 10? foid author is automatically 0/10 btw
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>>25245306
>The Elf Who Became a Dragon was boring imo, I do not get the appeal, but maybe you'll like it.
I loved it! I’m not caught up though, waiting for the author to finish the last volume now.
Maybe I’ll hold off on Katalepsis for now. I don’t like a lot of romance in my books.
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>>25245309
out of 5 obviously.
foid author is automatically a must read because women are better then men.
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>>25245302
what's wrong with book 6? I thought it was pretty interesting
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>>25245312
That's misandry
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>>25245290
>The Flower that Bloomed Nowhere
how is this one, ive had my eye on it but its extremely long so i dont wanna waste my time. when does it get good
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We should make a separate wng for wns with femcs.
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>>25245315
I really liked it a lot too.
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>>25245311
I didn't even get to the romance part lol. I don't know how to explain it other than that the writing oozes gayness
>>25245320
this is that wng, make one for male MCs
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>>25245320
Nobody's stopping you (Except jannies/mods who will probably see it as spam).
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>>25245305
A classroom gets isekai'd to a world with a system. It's separated into one POV that gets reincarnated as a spider, and occasional POVs from the other side of the class.

The spider gets reincarnated at the bottom of a massive dungeon, and the first part of the story is surviving to get the hell out. Despite it being "solo" on her part, she carries it with great comedic inner dialogue.

I also quite like the worldbuilding, including the reason for the system, which is usually hardly ever touched on in these stories.
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you should be forced to read RI, shadow slave and lotm before being able to post here
and talking about fmc or foid authors should be automatic ban
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>>25245290
>>25245298
I don't understand why practical guide to sorcery is recommended so much. In spite of it being about things I would normally be heavily biased in favor of, I found it a rather painful and frustrating read.
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>>25245328
That happens. I think the same thing about Shadow Slave. I read a lot of it, but it was just very painfully obvious that it’s just slop after a certain point. But it’s fairly popular.
Also, reading 33 volumes of a LN series has sort of ruined my reading stats for the year. 72 and it’s the end of April because of that lol. I’ll never be able to beat this record.
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>>25245328
There's a lot of stuff going. Gender bender, raven queen persona, magic school, progression, mysteries, anxiety over being found out, well written etc. What's not to like?
It's first person though and I know some people don't like that
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>>25245331
what app is that
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>>25245332
>What's not to like?
Damien behaves like a foid.
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>>25245335
true, RI is peak and it has the opposite, where guys become foids but keep acting like men. this is the way to go
nobody wants to read something about someone being or acting like a foid, written by a foid
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>>25245318
It's been at least two years since I read it, but I remember really liking it. Though the start is quite slow. Also it's not really timeloop, except it is
The MC is kind of annoying(ly timid) until later on when a certain reveal happens that makes you reconsider her whole personality and character
If you like mystery, chaos and confusion I would recommend it
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>>25245271
>any light novels that you could recommend?
Nowhere Stars.
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>>25245342
ill give it a try, someone said its like umineko and since then ive kept an eye on it
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>>25245271
Which parts did you find boring?
>an insanely accelerated race towards the ending
You mean you wanted the usual SS that expand on things, as in other volumes?
>plot threads started and ended going nowhere
Which ones?
>what a child thinks politics looks like
Do you seriously think that actual politics would be interesting to read about? There's a reason why the actual conferences were always skipped.
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>>25245347
pretty sure he means jp style light novels, not webnovels in general
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>>25245371
>jp style light novels
Is there EN light novels? Like official ones?
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>>25245326
>her
Stopped reading there.
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>>25245374
don't think the west has that kind of publishing culture. in either regard of a webnovel -> official publication pipeline (though this might be changing) or publshed books that are meant to be very light reads
airport novels are a thing and kinda fill that niche
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>>25245271
>Elf Book That Makes People Mad
What?
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>>25245337
Are you new here?
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>>25245371
The cover page literally states "a magical girl light novel". It has frequent images and each volume is around 250 pages. It fits the characteristics of an LN.
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>>25245396
Why does he make them mad?
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>>25245397
RIfag began spamming in 2019 so yes, he is. Describing anything as "peak" or using "foid" should have been a giveaway for newfaggotry.
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>>25245400
I don't think I ever used the term foid.
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read invisible dragon, its actually peak
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foid is derivative of moid which was coined in femcel forums
it's funny that fmc seether is relying on the culture and verbiage of women without knowing it
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>moid
Femoid, you mean?
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>>25245412
Foid came first actually, it's based on femoid
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>>25245415
I always found femoid funnier since it retains the etymological convention of placing women as second order to men
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>>25245332
>well written
If you consider that well written, I don't think I want to know what you consider bad writing to be.

>>25245331
"slop" isn't the word I'd use for shadow slave. "Arbitrary" feels more accurate to me.
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>>25245334
It’s AI slop, an app I got Claude to make, to manage my library/serials etc and sync with my e-reader for stats. Helps reading serials on my kindle by rebuilding the ePubs when new chapters come, and I can divide the chapters into volumes/books, and search and download stuff directly from its UI.
>>25245342
This description interests me, but I checked it out and it has like 240 chapters but isn’t divided into books. Why don’t people on RR divide their chapters into books to make them easier to read?
>>25245347
What is it about?
>>25245366
>Boring
Just endless talks of x faction y faction all of which is essentially meaningless for the first few volumes of part 5.
>pacing
After all this boring stuff in the first few volumes - oh, Wilfred is good now! No, he’s bad again! His retainer is good now! Nope, he’s still a Veronica bro.
Literally anything to do with Veronica and Leisegangs, I could do without. Because the actual plot kicks in by Volume 7 and suddenly it gets from inane boring shit to actually talking with Gods, going to War and so on. Part 5 could have just been 6-8 volumes instead of 12.

>plot threads
anything to do with Wilfred. Hannelore was built up to be something but ends up doing nothing of note except…falling for Wilfred and just being another plot point for Myne to use in her ascension due to her being an ADC for her duchy.
The actual interesting parts like the Gods and why they created this land, what’s actually going on and so on was so interesting, but all of it was dumped in the back half of the last part. Spread that out and expand on it more. And then yeah, ended up going nowhere, which I understand because it’s the story of Myne and her Ascendance. But I wish I could’ve learned more about that, rather than those Detlinde chapters or endless talks about nobles and useless children playing at politicking with tea parties.
Since I’m complaining, the structure of the last few books where everything is done and then you get to see the war from other perspectives was dumb IMO due to sucking all the tension out of the story.
>Do you seriously think that actual politics would be interesting to read about? There's a reason why the actual conferences were always skipped.
Maybe? But if you’re making me read at least 10 volumes of children playing at politics at least make an effort to make it interesting, or just handwave all of it.
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>>25245271
>LN
Overlord
Kumo
Infinite Dendrogram
The Faraway Paladin (but mediocre but I really liked the prologue)

if you find yourself disliking light novel prose you'll probably bounce off all light novels but I've found some are worse than others. probably worth trying a couple more and seeing if your opinion develops or if the prose is too ass to stand
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>>25245431
>What is it about?
Dark mahou shoujo. You probably won't like it unless you are already familiar with the genre.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/54237/nowhere-stars
https://www.timelesswind.com/series/nowhere-stars
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>>25245430
How is it not well written by web novel standards?
>"slop" isn't the word I'd use for shadow slave
Oh, I see. That explains things
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>>25245430
I don’t understand what you mean. Shadow slave is total slop after the first arc IMO. The ideas are good, but the writing is bad and gets worse. I hope that the author gets to talk to an actual woman soon.
If you’re just comparing writing quality alone, A Practical Guide to Sorcery is written so much better than Shadow Slave that it’s not even close. >>25245436
I’ve seen Madoka Magica if that counts? Sounds interesting. I’ll give it a go!
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>>25245449
Nowhere Stars is quite good, hope you enjoy it
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>>25245431
also you forgot about lutz and commoners basically being written out of the story in the favour of a rotating cast of tropey nobles. how did you get through 33 volumes of this
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>>25245437
>How is it not well written by web novel standards?
It's been 4ish years since I've read parts of it, but I remember nothing really lining up correctly, and characters jumping immediately to extreme and strange conclusion. I also remember a number of lines that felt like a "Then everyone clapped" should have followed.
>Oh, I see. That explains things
It's slop, but the first word to come to mind for me when I think of shadow slave is "arbitrary".

>>25245449
I wasn't saying it isn't slop, but that I think the bigger issue with the story is that the majority of it feels arbitrary.
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>>25245436
That's some femc garbage
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>>25245471
>>25245472
uh oh somebody's bot is taking a dump
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>>25245472
>written by a nigger foid author
Really? That would explain a lot actually.
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>>25245476
lmao how
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Is fucknovelpia RIP?
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>>25245431
Personally, I found P5V1-P5V5 really interesting because it immediately showed the consequences of Rozemyne losing a reliable guardian, how fragile the bonds she has were, then getting a taste of being stabbed in the back.
>Literally anything to do with Veronica and Leisegangs
I agree that P5V6 is boring.
>Wilfred, Hannelore
H5Y.
>endless talks about nobles
How do you survive Part 4?
>other perspectives
By that point the war already ended and after the volume's epilogue, so yeah.
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>>25245473
Bro it's time to just take a break and let the trolls wear themselves out.
See y'all next week.
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I was rewatching Taxi Driver today.
I think I'm going to write a 2k-ish ch1 for a Taxi Driver-esq cyberpunk winnie and see how it goes. Just spill my guts and let the edgy vhs edit glow on the page.
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>>25245503
I already have 2k words done, but not yet coherent enough to post here. I hate the high of writing something new. It makes me feel guilty about not working on what I should be working on.
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>>25245481
>getting stabbed in the back
assuming you mean Eglantine? I think that 'betrayal' was way overblown, and opining otherwise is agreeing with Roz/Ferd throwing a childish tantrum to fuck the world is fine
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i want to make my survival litrpg MC a sort of loner; he won’t find any other peoples to talk to for the first two volumes at least.

but i’m worried about my readers complaining then 3 star bombing my work because they expect a companion or something, even if i make it clear in the synopsis that the MC will never get a permanent companion, and that the MC won’t see any persons until later volumes.

should i have the MC go schizo in the middle of volume 1 and make a Wilson for himself to assuage my reader’s feelings?
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Making MC a loner is a terrible idea unless they've got a vivid inner personality. Can't think of many I've read where I wasn't bored out of my mind.
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>The Demon Queen Wants To Live
Shit is ass
>read author bio
no surprises
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>>25245582
is it not enough to have the MC act like an armchair anthropologist, evolutionary biologist, botanist, etc. when coming across the island environment of the fantasy world he’s been isekai’d into?
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>>25245591
Yes, I love exploring the world of an MC I don't care about.
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>>25245594
>Yes, I love exploring the world of an MC I don't care about.
Have you any examples of an MC with a "vivid inner personality" my readers might care for?
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>>25245585
It's surprising to me. I'd expect weab esl-kuns to be from India or SEA.
Can they even watch anime and read web novels in Pakistan?
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>>25245597
So I'm a spider, so what?
Literally the only one I can think of.
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>>25245575
I like loner mc
so long as you're clear with your blurb, should be fine. just have a section that directly declares it
don't get too anxious about it. when you share with an audience, you should expect getting the attention of retards. you can't truly do anything about a dumbass who reads a story explicitly containing something he dislikes
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https://www.honeyfeed.fm/novels/29816
Been reading Everything In Between. It's fairly straightforward but it's got heart. The naming conventions are kind of ass but it's made up for by the brisk update Speed and a sense that each chapter moves things forward.
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Where are all the male mage MCs? Mother of Learning was great, although it dragged towards the end, but where are the rest of them? It's all feMC this, feMC that.
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Any good gal books
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>>25245575
You NEED another character, somebody that the MC can talk to. It doesn't have to be a person, it could be a dog or a coconut named Wilson. There needs to be a reason for the MC to open their mouth.
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>>25245627
No, stop asking and do it yourself
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>>25245628
there's no significant difference between a monologue contained inside or outside quotation marks
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>>25245626
I read several.
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>>25245626
>It's all feMC this, feMC that.
Nobody wants to read about boring m*les
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>>25245626
Try Paranoid Mage. I got tired of it but you might not.
A fair few xianxias are also functionally mage mc stories.
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>>25245626
I don't think there are any, that aren't litrpg or murderhobo. Which is quite baffling
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>>25245626
>femc seethe
don't post cringe bro
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/76764/gregor-the-cripple
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>>25245626
>Where are all the male mage MCs?
>Where are all the male MCs?
Coombrain authors are incapable of writing male MCs
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>>25245478
It's been a while, but from what I recall:
>The law enforcement is called "coppers"
>All coppers are evil and incompetent
>Her father steals a priceless artifact from the magic academy (He's a normal guy btw) and then hands it to her while he's running for it. She just goes along with this and runs away, despite complaining about it multiple times
>wands are a replacement for guns
>by chapter 30ish she's involved in gang violence
>the economy doesn't make sense if you think about it for even a moment
>Everything the MC does will be constantly hype up as the most amazing thing ever
>Despite what the synopsis says the magic is very soft
>prostitution is brought up a strange amount
>A number of arguments ends with the MC making a sassy comment that instantly stuns everyone into silence
>The MC will also go on for paragraphs loudly insulting the other party in these moments (can you guess her skin color?)
>heavy pushes for a class divide angle
Also here's a quote I found while verifying a few of these
>"The University boasted about their inclusive, nondiscriminatory policy. They claimed a willingness to admit anyone who could pass the test and either pay the way or get a sponsor to do so for them, but she wondered how much of that was simply propaganda."
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>>25245613
Probably one of the first times I've seen anything about honeyfeed get posted outside of the contestes.
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>>25245651
>This is what femsloppers consider "peak"
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>>25245651
that's actually pretty funny
other than the mc wank, all your points make me want to read it
trashy hoodrat slop would be a refreshing change of pace
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>>25245626
Those are rare. If you want it to not be system shit, and also not treat magic like a elemental superpower, then it's extremely rare. Zenith of sorcery is pretty good if you've not read it yet.
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>>25245651
What in the name of fuck
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>>25245651
You know law enforcement were actually called coppers back in the day, right?
The rest of your complaints are pretty much just as retarded
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>>25245667
they're called coppers (and cops) because they had copper badges, does this fantasy world also have police that adopted a copper badge (due to lack of standardization of uniforms at the time) to show their station and the same slang derived from it?
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>>25245571
>>25245503
Whatever, here's what I have in one piece so far:

>The idea of the virtuous man of violence, all that was bullshit. There was no such thing as a crusader. Just the dogs of the corpostate and the leeches on the underbelly, snatching up folks from the sidewalk to strip the chrome out of their skulls, the kidneys out of their backs, the hearts from their ribcages, or else to torture them and terrorize them for adrenalized blood from which to produce the drug of youth, Adrenochrome. Oh sure, it had an official name, a codename, and it was in actually a dozen different drugs, and adrenalized blood had very little actual role in its production. But everyone knew what it really was, everyone called it Adrenochrome, and the self-made vampires who sought it had a taste for “the real thing,” made with the blood of real torture victims, rather than synthetically adrenalized alternatives.

>He understood why. How could he not understand? He’d worked in an office, after all. He knew damn well that the managerial class, the parasite class, viewed the world as some sort of sick zero-sum game, that if those below them were not suffering and losing, then they themselves could neither win nor enjoy themselves.

>“Oh, why won’t someone nuke such and such corporate HQ?”

>“Oh, why won’t the terminally ill burn their lives to kill the insurance agents who denied their life-saving medication?”

>“Oh, why won’t the man whose life was condemned to ruin by a corporation turn himself into a living weapon against them?”

>“Why don’t those spree-killers and deranged gunmen go after the subjects of their manifestos rather than random innocent bystanders?”

>These questions had rang out hundreds, thousands of times in the past. And they would ring out again in the future. And they were ringing out right now, in the present, all over the net.

1/2
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>>25245675

>[MCNAME] had, himself, mulled these matters over countless times. He was a taxi driver, after all. His profession had rightly become notorious for their often extreme political views. Ask a hundred taxi drivers his opinions on any political matter, and you will know the true soul of the country. You will know the bloodthirst and simmering rage in the heart of every blue-collar Joe.

>And yet, no vigilantism, no political killings, no principled wealthy rogues using their stolen wealth to stick it to the man.

>Because people were cowards. Humans could bear a tremendous amount of suffering and indignity as long as they got their bread and circuses. And, if things got worse, so what. Things had been gradually getting a bit worse each year for two centuries now. No revolutions as of yet. In the third world, sure. One puppet regime for another. But here, in the “glamorous first world,” (what a joke), no such thing.

>Even if someone wanted to change things, form a militia, or even just a group of the like-minded and disenfranchised, the feds and corporate bloodhounds would smother it. Or, even more likely, any such organization would be a honeypot to begin with, just obvious enough that nobody with half a brain would fall for it, so that anyone who bit the hook would be dumb enough to follow through, get entrapped, and have his life destroyed to pad some soulpoisoned agent’s resume.

>He spat on the sidewalk. The slurry in that puddle became marginally cleaner as a result.
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>>25245673
apparently that's a myth, according to my 5 minute google search
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>>25245657
>>25245664
That was just a list of things that clicked into place for me when I heard the author was a nigger foid. If I started listing off issues with the story I would be writing for hours.

>>25245667
>>25245679
Not that it matters. That term only came into usage around 1850s and the story is set in a pre industrial civilization in a fantasy setting. My point originally was that it's not a standard way of referring to law enforcement in a fantasy story. After learning about the author I think it makes perfect sense why it's like that now. She mostly originally wrote it as "cops" then decided that it sounded too modern and looked for alternatives.
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>>25245651
>>25245692
The father stealing the artifact makes perfect sense but it takes like 4 books for you to be informed why it makes sense
I'm not going to write a 200 word essay, so I'll just say that you're factually wrong on half of those points and would like to pose a question; why is talking about inequality bad (rich vs poor, since I don't recall race ever being an issue in the books)?
Also the MC is not a nigger, she's (half?) native american or whatever the equivalent to that is in universe
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>>25245678
>bracketed placeholder names
good practice. I do the same thing
>literally just taxi driver with some modern sentiments
yeah I dunno what I expected. glad you're having fun writing I suppose. there's a couple decent phrases in here. bit clumsy
keep going
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>>25245715
Talking about inequality suggests a political theory of equality
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>>25245727
Of course, I can polish it. But It's not time for that yet. It's not even a coherent first chapter yet. And regardless, I think leaving it a bit raw will be right. I'm writing it with a raw sentiment after all.
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>>25245728
what kind of novels can you even enjoy with that kind of mindset? haremslop?
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>>25245728
okay now you're just acting retarded
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One large chunk of my novel is about globe trotting adventures in a a future Earth during an Apocalypse event

What do i do with countries i don't want to talk about like Israel and the rest of the Middle East? Do i say they got nuked before the story began? After the apocalypse started? Do i just ignore them and move on?

I want to know what could make the readers drop the book and call me a nazi
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>>25245774
just don't mention it
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>>25245715
>you're factually wrong on half of those points
Let me guess:
point 2: Because I used "and" instead of "and/or".
point 4: Because while they are used as guns that just stun and don't kill you, they can technically and most likely do get used for other things.
point 5: Because there's that one time it doesn't happen.
point 6: Because you're retarded, and I'm struggling to find how any of these could be wrong when I actively reread the first 30ish chapters alongside a few reviews to make this list,
point 8 because there's technically a harder form of magic displayed. The MC seems to favor it as well.
point 9 because it stops after the first book.
>why is talking about inequality bad
So true sister, I wish every book talked about how the evil upper class institutions pretend to be diverse and inclusive despite keeping trans bipoc women down! More seriously it speaks to the internal opinions, thoughts and allegiance of the author especially in amateur works.
>Also the MC is not a nigger
Nice reading comprehension, that must be why you like the story so much.
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>>25245774
Just vaguely allude to "large portions of the earth were overrun by rape demons/nuked/etc" and then never mention them.
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>>25245781
I just said I'm not going to write a 200 word essay, so I'm not going to. You can keep wondering on what points you're wrong, not that you really care. You just want to get into a pointless argument about a web novel for some reason
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>>25245792
You've already written 140, what's 60 more?
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>>25245794
Oy vey, you want me to write a 200 word essay? I can't believe you're forcing me to write 140 words at gunpoint, this is anudda shoah, what would you even need 60 words for, you'll be hearing from my lawyer about those 300 words you owe me...
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apgts is fine but it really doesn't deserved to be talked about so much in so many different threads. why is it /wng/s posterchild?
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>>25245805
I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact that it's not litrpg/isekai slop
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What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?
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>>25245848
they do realize they have /sffg/ right?
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>>25245911
do royal road stories get posted over there? I have a nonlitrpg isekai but I don't often post it here much.
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>>25245909
Lose embarrassingly to Fang Yuan and whine about it from his clone bodies?
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Why do the big, old stories like worm and MOL not stub and go to amazon? Is it a moral stand or ignorance to how many more readers they would pick up? Have the authors said anything about it?
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>>25246037
>worm
Heard the author is very VERY strict about his stuff being edited. He's very protective of his work and he'd rather make it for free than it being edited. That's why there isn't an official, physical copies of the book.
Apparently, he got a couple of offers from who knows where to get his stuff adapted into a show or something. Don't know how credible that is however.

tl;dr The author of Worm doesn't want his work to be edited.
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>>25246042
Why doesn't he upload the arcs as they exist into ebooks on Amazon? They don't need to be edited
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>>25245651
>All coppers are evil and incompetent
Authority figures are evil and incompetent you say?
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>>25245626
I'm sorry you hate tits
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>>25246061
It's the opposite - nobody in feMC stories gets any enjoyment out of tita.
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>>25245575
>he won’t find any other peoples to talk to for the first two volumes at least.
What would he even *do* for that time? What makes loner protagonists interesting are how the people he meets on his adventures respond to him and how he deals with them.
A loner that walks from place to place and deals with things in a non-verbal manner works in a visual format, but not so muchvin prose unless you're extremely experienced.
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>>25245418
yeah, i think you're right.
anyway over on /r9k/ where we all hate ourselves and each other, we all use moid or foid unironically at this point.
t. moid
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>another psychotic comment telling the MC to fucking murder someone out of nowhere if they're the slightest bit threatening
I seriously worry sometimes. Like, I wish I could inform these peoples' schools or employers about the shit they're posting. It's very abnormal and disturbing behavior.
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>>25246130
If you're the anon who posts regularly about this kind of thing, you should've learned by now that paying no mind to these types of retards is the only way forward
That you're making posts about it means that you care way too much about these degens.
A small percent of readers are dumb as shit and psychotic - yes, it's well established, anyone with any amount of audience knows it. Just ignore them. Ban them if they're too freaky and consistent about it, but otherwise, just ignore
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>>25246139
I am ignoring. I just think it's a wider societal problem that really should be dealt with.
I don't dwell on it nearly as much as wordless low ratings or people shitting on the story directly.
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>>25246130
It is genuinely distressing behavior, seeing the advent of newfaggotry on 4chan in real time over the past ~19 years of my personal life, and the growing ASPD sentiment of belief that one can do what they want where they want with no consequences. This younger generation is due for a rough awakening the moment they display this preteen internet behavior in real life.
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>A gust of relief cooled his temper
Good line or bad line?
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>>25246148
You should just write in your native language.
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>>25246077
He’d be crafting and surviving, ala Primitive Technology.
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>>25246148
Very bad. Don't try to spice up sentences that don't deserve spicing up.
>Relief cooled his temper.
Is such an utterly mundane beat that it doesn't anything more than the plainest version of itself.

That said, sometimes surrounding context can influence the existing line. On its own, though, this is terrible
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>>25246143
>I just think it's a wider societal problem that really should be dealt with.
This whole website is a wider societal problem that needs to be dealt with
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>>25246130
>>25246145
>D-did someone just tell ME that my character in MY story should kill this other character?!?!?!?
>911!?!?! THIS IS AN EMERGENCY!!! Someone just told me that a character in my book should DIE!!!
> I NEED YOU TO HUNT DOWN AND RUIN HIS LIFE!!!!!
You sound significantly more insane then he does.
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>>25246172
NTA but your weird caps and punctuation spam to fabricate a strawman is definitely more unhinged than the anon who is oversensitive about his commenters.
Take a deep breath, freak
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>>25246168
Shitposting anonymously on the internet's containment forum is one thing.
Posting with what appears to be one's real name on a fiction website with psychopathic violent outbursts is much more concerning. It signifies an inability to act appropriately in different social contexts.
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>>25246174
Nah, I was just having fun with the post. You're extremely fucking retarded if you consider that unhinged.
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>>25246178
If it's your dad's turn this weekend ask him if what you posted was a funny joke or if it was unhinged.
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>>25246178
You called someone insane for a way milder post lmao. You're really this lacking in self awareness?
The people who spam caps and exclamation points and make ridiculous strawmen (You) are maladjusted manchildren, there are no exceptions
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>>25246181
Having fun and something being a joke are two different things retard-kun.

>>25246183
The "mild post" of wanting to get people fired from their job for saying a character in your story should kill this other character. I suppose you don't own any mirrors.
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>>25246184
>I suppose you don't own any mirrors.
I outright said I'm not that anon, you illiterate. You can call me a retard but you can't call me hypocritical, because I've made no unhinged statements myself
Anyway, I still fully stand by
>The people who spam caps and exclamation points and make ridiculous strawmen (You) are maladjusted manchildren, there are no exceptions
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>>25246184
Psychos who can't contain their intrusive thoughts about murdering people at the slightest hint of inconvenience don't actually deserve to keep their jobs. They need psychiatric treatment and segregation from society in a mental asylum for the safety of everyone else.

I think I'll make such a character as a villain someday. I was going to do a Tanya the Evil warmonger loli, but I'll do that instead, and have retards defend him repeatedly against the protagonist until they inevitably get murdered for no reason by the villain.
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>>25246184
>retard-kun.
I can't tell if you're the guy who spams this -kun tic or if you're a sheep who adopted it
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>>25246189
>I outright said I'm not that anon
You're also retard.
>you illiterate.
Says the guy that can't correctly interpret a single sentence that isn't spelled out to you.

>>25246190
>can't contain their intrusive thoughts about murdering people
Why are you acting like this is about real people? Are you really such a dumbass that you can't comprehend the difference between fiction and reality?

>>25246195
I originally wrote retard, but I thought retard-kun was funnier.
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>>25246202
>You're also retard.
ESL
>Says the guy that can't correctly interpret a single sentence that isn't spelled out to you.
No you're just apparently ESL and don't know what the idiom look into a mirror means. You accused me of being a hypocrite when that insult doesn't apply at all, but are too ESL to know it. You repeat buzz phrases because you don't know english
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I think all of you should kiss and make up
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>>25246216
be my stinky yume wife
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>>25246219
I'm a guy, sorry
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>>25246206
>ESL
It's over...I made a mirror spelling mistake.
Btw, you missed a comma after "No", should have had a "you" after your "but", didn't capitalize English, and forgot to use a period.
>You accused me of being a hypocrite
That not what that idiom means dumbass. "Look in the mirror" is an idiom about self-reflection, which you clearly lack the capability of doing. Considering your general lack of mastery of the English language this is starting to sound like projection.
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>>25246224
>a mirror spelling mistake.
>I did it again
I guess he's going to try it again.
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>>25246223
>I'm a guy
>in /wng/
nice try nona
there are no moids on /wng/
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>>25246224
>"Look in the mirror" is an idiom about self-reflection
Yes, as in you need to reflect on the matter at hand because you're lacking self-awareness. (The topic was "making unhinged claims")
Christ you are ESL as hell. Or just stupid. I'll grant that that's a very real possibility. Some EFLs are retarded as fuck and feel confident talking about language because they were born into an inbred EFL family and think they can speak english because of it

Read your post you fucking moron
>The "mild post" of wanting to get people fired from their job for saying a character in your story should kill this other character. I suppose you don't own any mirrors.
Absolutely inexcusable you're arguing about this. Admit you're retarded and shut the fuck up.
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>>25246237
You forgot a comma after "Christ", forgot to capitalize English, and once again forgot a period.
>He went and copied the post and still can't figure it out
Here's a hint: read your post that I was responding to.
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>>25246231
>there are no moids on /wng/
T-there's no way you really believe this...! we exist too!
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>>25246246
We've reached that point where I've stopped believing that you're human in any classical sense
So:
Retard
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>>25246251
I accept your concession.
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>>25246253
Retard
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>>25246256
Retard.*
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>>25246259
butthurt about being called esl huh?
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>>25246261
Butthurt about being called ESL huh?*
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>>25246263
Retard :)
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>>25246264
I deserve that one, I forgot the comma. Not that you'd know that.
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>/wng/ — Web Novel General
>contains barely any discussion about web novels
classic
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>>25246271
actual 4chan newfag
this is true of all threads
most posts are by regulars, and regulars get bored of talking about the same limited shit, those topics are burned through fast. so it devolves into either shitposting or meta discussions
you also don't post about webnovels for this exact reason btw
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>>25246271
Tangents are good for a thread's health in moderation; it's a sign people care.
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>>25246271
The majority of the /lit/ posterbase came here after the board split and do not read books. Newfags, by definition, tend to read one book or series and make it their entire narcissistic identity.
See: Reverand Insanity and Bakker spammers.



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