>Let me tell you about womenI don't know man, I think Nietzsche was onto something with his intellectualizing ad hominems. Do you think he would write some garbage about "women" if he looked like James Hunt?
Chads are retarded and can't write for shit.
Joyce and Wittgenstein (in a more negative sense I suppose) were sort of inspired by him and that makes him okay in my eyes. Plus, I’m a chud just like him.
>>25247830I agree with the gist of what he says.
>>25247865Open: An Autobiography is good but Agassi got a ghost writer to help
>>25247869Joyce wasn't inspired by his incel work though but some lesser known writings.
>>25247830Nietzsche was a mad incel with a hot sister and probably has had less experience with women than most of this board.
>>25247912This is incorrect, you get this from wikipedia entry but Joyce read Sex and Character and based Molly Bloom off of it. Her stream of consciousness is the henids that W talks about. On Last Things is the superior book though. Amazing stuff>>25247830He looks fine, he’s just wearing glasses. He actually acknowledges this and references the story about a woman Schopenhauer was with being impressed by Byron.>The arguments which are in common use to justify a high opinion of woman have now been examined in all except a few points to which I shall recur, from the point of view of critical philosophy, and have been controverted. I hope that I have justified my deliberate choice of ground, although, indeed, Schopenhauer’s fate should have been a warning to me. His depreciation of women in his philosophical work “On Women,” has been frequently attributed to the circumstance that a beautiful Venetian girl, in whose company he was, fell in love with the extremely handsome personal appearance of Byron; as if a low opinion of women were not more likely to come to him who had had the best not the worst fortune with them.A stupid story because Schop literally quotes the authority of Byron in his misogynistic essay
>>25248112>He looks fine>fish lips>lumpy head>tiny eyes>shitty mustache
>>25247830Weininger clarifies several times in the book that he doesn't have any personal ill-will toward women, and while it is certainly one of the most intense misogynist polemics ever written, I'm inclined to believe him that he was just earnestly and disinterestedly following the implications of his own bizarre Esoteric Kantian philosophy. The fact that the book digresses so extensively on epistemology, religion, and genius lends him some credence, it's like a personal summa doubling as a long suicide note
>>25248121turn your monitor on
>>25248121I don’t know what you expect people to look like. This may be an example of valuing what you lack. Remove the glasses and shave the moustache and he looks above average, especially for a Jewish man. There’s another photo of him where he looks better. The Nietzschean lookism put down of Weininger doesn’t make much sense . You’re better off just saying that his offered solution is ridiculous>>25248397High culture and misogyny go together. Not as ill will - actually as a form if sympathy. But you can basically “solve” Weininger’s problem by believing in Mary cult (as Wagner did, at least artistically) or practicing Sufi mysticism
>>25247912>>25247869>Several sources agree that Joyce was familiar with the Weininger's book: Ralph Robert Joly (1982) Richard Ellmann (1982), Ira Nadel (1989), Natania Rosenfeld (1995). As Rosenfeld points out, Joyce probably read it in the German original - in his letter to Frank Budgen Joyce gives such a description of a woman: "perfectly sane amoral fertilisable untrustworthy engaging shrewd limited prudent indifferent Weib" (5, 285). The usage of the German word "Weib" following the misogynist interpretation suggests a reference to the book.Ulysses is underappreciated as a work of misogyny
>>25247830He was right about Jews being female-brained.
>saying the truth about women is misogyny>gender equality is when women get infinite gibs and have zero responsibility Women operate on 1984 tier programming.
>>25248405Brutal
>>25248405>>25248693I dont understand this
I guess I'm just confused about the category of 'women'. There seems to be a lot of variance in 'women'. Im personally attracted to cute tomboys, they are really different psychologically to the fish lips roastie posting on instagram.You also have the classicist roasties that work in old bookstores and attend operas etc.
>>25248589I mean, I hold nothing but hatred for Molly Bloom and reading Penelope just made me want to punch her face in so Joyce did well to make me loathe women just a teeny bit more
>>25248467>Mary cult, Sufi mysticismgo on..
>>25248467>it's over.
>>25248405ok that's pretty funny>>25248467>I don’t know what you expect people to look likeI don't expect them to look like anything, but this guy looks like a little toad>>25248716If my monitor was off, I would be seeing my own reflection
he looks like geraldo rivera
>>25249007From another perspective what he looks like should really have no bearing because he is a Jew that views Judaism as an original sin that he has to overcome. Regardless, he’s not unedifying to look at
>>25248961You don’t need to blur your vision or worship bourgeois mediocre women. If today most women are stupid and evil this doesn't change the essential nature of femininity as the source of creation. There are very strong traditions of sacred feminine which Weininger doesn’t really do anything to damage, besides observing that distinguish men will often absurdly idealize bread and butter misses
>>25249328Does he have anything positive to say about women.
>>25249341No but he really only has something positive to say about artistic and philosophical genius - so men only insofar as they participate in that, and women too but he regards this in people like George Eliot as really an expression of masculinity. He denigrates motherhood as animal. He then shifts the guilt to men - woman is man’s guilt and he is responsible. I’ll post ending of his bookWeininger may be the only real feminist to have walked this earth, if feminism is to mean anything besides men degrading themselves
Even technically the problem of humanity is not soluble for man alone; he has to consider woman even if he only wishes to redeem himself; he must endeavour to get her to abandon her immoral designs on him. Women must really and truly and spontaneously relinquish coitus. That undoubtedly means that woman, as woman, must disappear, and until that has come to pass there is no possibility of establishing the kingdom of God on earth. Pythagoras, Plato, Christianity (as opposed to Judaism), Tertullian, Swift, Wagner, Ibsen, all these have urged the freedom of woman, not the emancipation of woman from man, but rather the emancipation of woman from herself.[344]It is easy to bear Nietzsche’s anathema in such company! But it is very hard for woman to reach such a goal by her own strength. The spark in her is so flickering that it always needs the fire of man to relight it; she must have an example to go by. Christ is an example; He freed the fallen Magdalen, He swept away her past and expiated it for her. Wagner, the greatest man since Christ’s time, understood to the full the real significance of that act: until woman ceases to exist as woman for man she cannot cease being woman. Kundry could only be released from Klingsor’s curse by the help of a sinless, immaculate man—Parsifal. This shows the complete harmony between the psychological and philosophical deduction which is dealt with in Wagner’s “Parsifal,” the greatest work in the world’s literature. It is man’s sexuality which first gives woman existence as woman. Woman will exist as long as man’s guilt is inexpiated, until he has really vanquished his own sexuality.It is only in this way that the eternal opposition to all anti-feministic tendencies can be avoided; the view that says, since woman is there, being what she is, and not to be altered, man must endeavour to make terms with her; it is useless to fight, because there is nothing which can be exterminated. But it has been shown that woman is negative and ceases to exist the moment man determines to be nothing but true existence.That which must be fought against is not an affair of ever unchangeable existence and essence: it is something which can be put an end to, and which ought to be put an end to.This is the way, and no other, to solve the woman question, and this comes from comprehending it. The solution may appear impossible, its tone exaggerated, its claims overstated, its requirements too exacting. Undoubtedly there has been little said about the woman question, as women talk of it; we have been dealing with a subject on which[345] women are silent, and must always remain silent—the bondage which sexuality implies.
This woman question is as old as sex itself, and as young as mankind. And the answer to it? Man must free himself of sex, for in that way, and that way alone, can he free woman. In his purity, not, as she believes, in his impurity, lies her salvation. She must certainly be destroyed, as woman; but only to be raised again from the ashes—new, restored to youth—as a real human being.So long as there are two sexes there will always be a woman question, just as there will be the problem of mankind. Christ was mindful of this when, according to the account of one of the Fathers of the Church—Clemens—He talked with Salome, without the optimistic palliation of the sex which St. Paul and Luther invented later: death will last so long as women bring forth, and truth will not prevail until the two become one, until from man and woman a third self, neither man nor woman, is evolved.
Apparently his book was really popular among women through the 10s and for that reason he wasn’t taken seriously (I have no reference to that besides something Calasso said and it sounds made up because its funny but I believe it)
>>25249402Wagner, the greatest man since Christ’s timeOh come on, I like Wagner but at the end of the day he is just an entertainer.
>>25249411Similar to their rape fantasies, women secretly seeks the sensitive chud who will strip her of her attitudinal pretensions and despise her for who she is.
>>25247830as feminism progressed, men became increasingly feminist to keep their family together. the last white woman will be crowned emperess of the solar system and will marry and divorce 10 times in her life
>>25248785>There seems to be a lot of variance in 'women'not really. 100% of women believe in their right to murder babies, break up with husbands, kidnap babies, troon out babies. the birth rate crisis comes from women hating babies
>>25249574What do you think constitutes a great man? Do you think Michelangelo is “at the end of the day” only an entertainer? Do you have any values or believe anything can be achieved? He is certainly in contention for that distinction and to say otherwise is to join yourself to the mediocre blob.It would be better off if you didn’t listen to music with that attitude - music wouldn’t exist with that attitude. Joyce said he prefered Italians because they didn’t have such metaphysical ambitions
>>25249793Tristan and Isolde is probably my favorite 'artistic expression' of all time (I don't have formal musical training or else it would likely be Parsifal but I can't grasp all the nuances) but it's still, at the end of the day, there to entertain and to distract.It doesn't tackle some deep theological or epistemological problem that pushes the boundries of being itself.
>I'm Smith of Stoke, aged sixty-odd>I've lived without a dame>From youth-time on, and would to God>My dad had done the same!
>>25249803>It doesn't tackle some deep theological or epistemological problem that pushes the boundries of being itself.It certainly does this, and if you don't understand this you do not understand the works. What activity in your mind does "tackle some deep theological or epistemological problem that pushes the boundries of being itself"? Tristan is Nirvana which definitionally accomplishes what you described, "boundaries of being". It is for reason of stupidity like this that Wagner tried to limit productions of his work and wondered how the public could even benefit from performances of Beethoven. These art works should all be destroyed everyone thought the way you do. I’m sorry but I find the stupidity amazing. Thats enough 4chan - 4 life
>>25248896I think Ulysses should have ended in a Chris Watts situation (minus Millie). Bloom already had the anal fixation, he was all queued up for it
>>25250121Well, if it did end that way that would have given his anxious reluctance to return home until past midnight a new meaning… he’d be anxious about committing that act.
>>25249838No it doesn't, it's pop Schopenhauer
