Just bought this as a White man with no previous exposure to religious texts outside of the abrahamic. What can I expect?
>>25250021lmfao did you get proselytized by hare krishnas? that's so fucking funny>what can I expectlots of gods you won't recognize bearing messages you've already heard
>>25250021There was this meme post where Anon said he couldn't take it seriously as Vishnu will talk much about being virtuous and not lusting blood, but then immediately later exterminate 1 trillion people, can't find said image however.
>>25250021>His Divine Grace Catholics don’t even call the Pope anything like that.
>>25250021>Just bought this as a White man with no previous exposure to religious texts outside of the abrahamic. What can I expect?https://files.catbox.moe/iis961.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/ota049.mp4
>>25250386>https://files.catbox.moe/iis961.mp4>https://files.catbox.moe/ota049.mp4The Jews have compromised catbox.https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3hl4r7https://www.bitchute.com/video/GKUV8gYf5lxI
Serious answer its fine, but the commentary is very tedious and you’re better off just reading the main text, except for the first chapter where it explains what is going on. The BG is quite beautiful even if you don’t buy into its philosophy.
>>25250021If that's the edition you got, you done fucked up. It has an incredibly long and tedious commentary by the founder of the Hare Krishna sect. A nice, short edition is the Oxford Classics one by W.J. Johnson, he explains the basics and has just enough notes so you don't get lost.
>>25250021>Just bought shitty work written by poop people. what can I expect?Idk man
Why not read the whole Mahabharata
>>25251120>poop peoplebro that just reminded me for all the cycle of life death poop stuff in gravity's rainbow has anyone done a hinduistic reading of it?
>>25250069I used to send away for their bibles. I'd tear pages out and leave them under car's wipers while I was stoned. Sort of drive by half hearted prosletysing at one remove. Good times.
>>25250139lol trueThe actual message of it is very jumbled, but the part where Vishnu reveals his true nature is really goddamn amazing and makes reading the Gita worthwhile. Not that it's very long or difficult.
this is the only version you need
>>25250802not OP but I think have a Hare Krishna copy as well (it was in a hotel nightstand next to the Gideon Bible, has an index of ISKCON temples in the back), should I just skip the intro+commentary? I tried reading it high one day but it was very off-putting with how serious it seemed about having to believe every single thing in it or not to bother with it at all.
>>25250139That’s the point of Arjuna’s arrow. You do it because it is natural and your calling and because it is god’s will, duty
>>25251270> should I just skip the intro+commentary?Chuck the whole thing in the bin or donate it desuEven Prabhupada’s translation of the root verses are highly distorted and insert all sorts on devotionalistic, personal, abrahamic-like language that is mostly absent from the actual text, he often uses phrases like “Supreme Personality of Godhead” which occurs nowhere in the actual Gita.Some Iskcon people online cope and say all the bad changes were made by later editors but even in the original 1972 version the translation is highly distorted and sectarian.
An easy intro to the poos, kino cousins war and reflections by Chad Arjuna and Krishna>>25250069this guy didn't read that
>>25251539Op here, I have read like 25 pages and he uses language that sounds extremely christian
>>25250021You are reading about the brothers of your ancestors
>>25251573Yeah, the actual root text of the Gita isn’t like that for the most part except for a few sections which are counterbalanced by more abstract and apophatic descriptions of God elsewhere in the text.You can compare to Sastry’s 1902 translation of Adi Shankara’s Gita commentary here in late-Victorian English, the commentary attached is by the 8th century Advaitin Shankara but you can compare Prabhupada’s translation of the root verses to Sastry’s which just present the translation in a straightforward manner without adding sectarian substitutions and dubious interpolations. https://estudantedavedanta.net/Bhagavad-Gita.with.the.Commentary.of.Sri.ShankaracharyaN.pdfSastry’s translation isn’t perfection but is more or less still reliably indicating what each verse is talking about.
>>25250021>As it is>As it isApparently it's a terrible translation, very biased and fucked up by the ISKCON cult. At least that's what my Slavic country's top Indologists say.
>>25251620It was my way of reading the Gita, with the ISKCON version being so abundantly available. I think all of Prabhupada's interjections in his commentaries where he trashes on Advaita Vedanta interpretations just intrigue me more, in a dialectical way, to alternative ways of dharmic devotion.
>>25251796>I think all of Prabhupada's interjections in his commentaries where he trashes on Advaita Vedanta interpretations just intrigue me more, in a dialectical wayThat’s actually a very good reason *not* to read him, because his arguments are polemical in nature and not serious when analyzed in analytic terms, no academic (or traditional Pandit) outside of the Hare Krishna movement considers him to be worth mentioning as a serious debater or dialectician. If you are interested in more serious dialects and cutting-edge debate in relation to Bhakti theology and metaphysics, the available translations of works by pre-modern Vedantic philosophers like Ramanuja, Vedantadesika, Vyasatirtha, etc is where that is mostly to be found along with some Shaiva Siddhanta works, even in the Gaudiya Vaishnava tradition there are earlier authors before Prabhupada who actually argue in an intellectually serious manner like the 16th century Jiva Goswami who has some works translated.If you want an introduction to or overview of traditional Indian Bhakti theology/metaphysics without the modern Christian-missionary style tone and rhetoric of Prabhupada I would recommend reading Ramanuja’s Vedartha Sangraha, a prose monograph of about 200 pages.https://estudantedavedanta.net/Vedartha-Sangraha.pdf
>>25250021Any good history books on the indo European settlement of ancient india? Is it true whitey killed one gorillion jeet subhumans while partaking in sublime philosophy?
>>25252061Or you can read Ramanuja’s Gita-Bhashya, which is distinctly superior to Prabhupada’s (I say this as someone who has read the former in its entirety)https://archive.org/details/wxfw_ramanuja-gita-bhashya-with-translation-by-swami-adidevanand-ramakrishna-mathOr better yet, Madhusudana Saraswati’s masterpiece, the Gudartha Deepika, which integrates Bhakti to such a degree despite being written by an Advaitin and explicitly teaching Advaita metaphysics that it was endorsed and highly praised as an incredible and moving work by pre-modern Guadiya Vaishnava authors.https://estudantedavedanta.net/Bhagavad_Gita_Gudartha_Dipika%20_Gambhirananda.pdf
>>25252076There was an invasion but it wasn't a genocide.
If not As It Is then what version should we read?
>>25252185This one's pretty good
>>25252076There was no such thing as "white people " in 5000 bce
>>25252185Stephen Mitchell
>>25250021The commentary by Eknath Easwaran is the best. Very simple and straightforward. The commentary on the ISKCON As It Is edition is tedious and excessive, and also takes a lot of liberties in interpretation. Also, why tf would you even buy that version when they give them out for free?
>>25252078Thanks for the recommendations
>>25250021Upanishads is better
Have you guys noticed how vedic discussion on this board fell off a cliff ever since indians became a controversial topic in western discourse? Though that might just be because perennialism also became passe in the meanwhile.
>>25250021>poopjeetshttp://www.google.com/search?q=toilet+witches+indiahttp://www.google.com/search?q=codex+pajeethttp://www.amazon.in/s?k=cow+dung+cakeshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Pi4-zWJTg
>>25252916Indian culture seemed so cool before they started flooding the English speaking internet and we all experienced what they're really like. Now it's just hard to respect anything affiliated with them at all.
>>25252916idk I have literally no idea what 99% of the stuff is that people talk about in Buddhist/Vedic threads but it seems pretty well thought out when I see it here.
>>25252916>Have you guys noticed how vedic discussion on this board fell off a cliff ever since indians became a controversial topic in western discourse? In any Indian philosophy related thread, around 10-20% of the posts have always been troll posts and its been like that for about 10 years, but if you ignore them and just reply to the genuine posts there is good discussions to be had.The combination of troll posts bumping the thread combined with active discussion by multiple effort-posters is why many eastern religion related threads end up hitting the 300 post bump limit.
>>25253095>ghost in the toiletMax kek
>>25253221It's actually funny how botlike most "India hate" posts are. They've been repeating the same shit again and again for years, like this one, as if it would become true that way. You cannot really tell if it's a retarded 15 year old who just regurgitates verbatim everything he reads on 4chan. Or an actual AI. This is nothing new or out of the ordinary about this though. Whiteoids are racists. They've always been racists. It's just in their shitty nature that everyone else has to bear with.
>>25253350>They've always been racists.Every culture has prejudices including India where Black tourists both from Africa and western countries are routinely disrespected and treated poorly. The idea that whites are uniquely racist is retarded, and in fact studies have shown that Europeans have some of the highest amounts of empathy for perceived foreigns compared compared to that possessed by other races, to the point of it even being maladaptive by allowing foreigners to come in and abuse their welfare system and laws without much repercussions.4chan is an English speaking website mostly with westerns, so naturally the vitriol will mostly be directed as non-westerners, but this fact in itself should not deceive oneself into accepting the false progressive narrative that white people are uniquely racist.
>>25253350If everyone is saying the same thing about you, it just might be true.
