What would someone read to reach enlightenment? I guess, enlightenment in regards to reality. Plato or some shit? Idk what I'm asking desu, I just believe that there's a very mystical aspect of reality that I know very little about and I want to try to understand it more
>>25250151My limited references, from a limited perspective Alan Watts - The Way of Zen (1957)Tao Teh Ching William S Burroughs lecture ‘Nirvana and You’ (https://youtu.be/JTcw4RymVy0?si=RglksvnqSsSFEw00)When you read or listen to others, notice what they don’t say
Go back.
You can't achieve enlightenment through the works of others. You can only colour your own thoughts with them. You have to reach it through observation of the world and find your own conclusions.
>>25250151The straight path to Enlightenment is through the breath. There's not much reading can do for you beyond a certain point.
>>25250151Well, you have to familiarize yourself with Enlightenment thinkers first, of course.
>>25250151I've read the entire Platonic corpus, including the letters and pseudepigrapha, and it certainly didn't lead to enlightenment. Maybe the Neoplatonists will
>>25250151>I want to try to understand it moreReading won't help you and it is not about reaching enlightenment (impossible ideal), just about trying to be better.
Enlightenment is a state of being, not a reaction or action.
>>25250151Reading won't get you there, at most it's useful to have some intellectual knowledge about reality. You really don't need to know much though, so long as you understand the neti neti methodology you're set. The basic premise of neti neti is finding out what you are by eliminating what you are not. Objectify everything in your direct experience starting with what's most obvious. Can you observe your keyboard? If you can observe your keyboard that makes it an object of observation, therefore it's not you. Can you observe your mouse? If you can observe your mouse that makes it an objective of observation, therefore it's not you. And so on, eventually going inwards and applying the same logic to what you conventionally think is the subject, like the body, feelings, thoughts, beliefs, or the sense of a center. Alternatively, you can literally remove all objects in experience through jhana, inso doing you necessarily dis-identify from any objects of perception. For jhana you need to NOT do, you have to still body and mind. This stilling is not very active though, since trying really hard to still yourself defeats the purpose. Think about how water stills, only through non-intervention does water still, the moment you try to "do" anything the water is perturbed. Practically though there is still some effort it's just very minimal. Note, to root out the belief and attachment to an objective (by objective I just mean anything that is an object) you it takes repeated practice. It's like how you need repeated input in order to understand a language at an intuitive level.
>>25250151Because they are SPOOKED
>>25250151Just watch a few owen cook videos and you will know exactly what to do. Also some robert spira is helpful. >what you need is some basic trauma healing and then your brain will have the bandwidth to actually process the present moment and life become pure joy, especially when you spend time with other peopleGood luck bro
>>25250346what means this?
>>25250332wrong
>>25250151>I just believe that there's a very mystical aspect of reality that I know very little about and I want to try to understand it moreHere you go https://archive.org/details/jp-tg-ul-oneirosophy
>>25250151You can read, just remember that enlightenment is more than some intellectual pursuit. You have to actively change your feelings and how you experience reality. No one can guide you there but yourself. If you want to understand the mystical aspect of reality you must first connect to it within yourself. Reading books can help you intellectualize and abstract that but it won't do the connecting for you.
>>25250151>MUH READING YOU HAVE TO READ HOW CAN I READ WHAT DO I NEED TO READ TO ACHIEVE THIS CAN YOU SUGGEST SOME READINGI get that we are on /lit/, but this is pathetic. Life is more than some scribbles on papet
>>25250151https://youtube.com/@simplyalwaysawakeMost practical. If you want scenic route read mystic Christian saints, Buddhist monks and certain Sufi authors. Plato also talks about it in cave allegory but it doesn’t seem to wake people up.
>>25251871Starting to think Owen Cook is a crypto jew, but I like him. He’s had an awakening but seems to believe in a seperate soul which can ascend through works. May or may not be the case but it’s an extra thing.
>>25250151thishttps://realization.org/p/ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita.html
>>25250151Buddha sat under a tree
>>25250346This
>>25250151Lao Tze mogs every Pre-Christian enlightened man except for the Buddha and maybe DiogenesI rest my case
>>25250346What does that mean?
>>25250151Conan
