Why did Nietzsche hated so much Euripides? He claimed that Euripides along Socrates had introduced rationality in his pieces but there is nothing barely rational in a fucking deus ex machine (Medea), so where the fuck did he take it?
>gods exist and meddle in human affairs>at the end of the play, a god that exists meddles in human affairs>barely rational
>>25252258Ancient tradition. The association between Euripides and Socrates is brought up by Diogenes Laertius, but it's also alluded to in Aristophanes' Frogs.
>>25252274Here's Diogenes, actually sourcing his comments for a change:>It was thought that he collaborated with Euripides; hence Mnesilochus says:>This new play of Euripides is the Phrygians,>For which Socrates supplied the firewood.>And he refers to some of Euripides’ plays as “patched up by Socrates.” And Callias in the Captives:>A. Why, then, have you an air so solemn and high-minded?>B. I have the right; Socrates is responsible.>Aristophanes in the Clouds:>It’s he who writes for Euripides>Those witty, wordy tragedies.Here's the passage in Aristophanes' Frogs:>Happy the man who has>keen intelligence,>as is abundantly clear:>this man [i.e., Aeschylus], for his eminent good sense,>is going back home again,>a boon to his fellow citizens,>a boon as well>to his family and friends,>through being intelligent.>So what’s stylish is not to sit>beside Socrates and chatter,>casting the arts aside>and ignoring the best>of the tragedian’s craft.>To hang around killing time>in pretentious conversation>and hairsplitting twaddle>is the mark of a man who’s lost his mind.The latter part of that passage is referring to Euripides, who just lost a contest to Aeschylus to return from the dead to be Athens' reigning poet.
>>25252267A FUCKING divine chariot saved her from her inevitable destiny and you are telling me it is any rational?
>>25252258Because Nietzsche was fucking emotional. There’s no further analysis needed.
>>25252258He didn't actually read Euripides or Plato so who cares
>>25252258Nietzsche hated every other philosopher except Schopenhauer, and he thought even he was half a fag.
>>25252258Euripides was the leftist of his day basically. Racism and husbands are bad (Medea), war and genocide are bad (Women of Troy), our elite families and institutions are all corrupt and worth being destroyed (Bacchus), war as pure evil created by fate to harm humanity (Helen). It’s really no wonder at all that Nietzsche would hate someone who attacks all of Greece’s deities and social institutions and calls them corrupt as contrasted with men like Sophocles or Aeschylus who depict the gods as cruel yet well intentioned in their cruelty. Oedipus is still the father essentially of Athens who allows it to be blessed in Colonus. He may suffer though it is an epic and dramatic suffering not a suffering brought about through the vulgarity of the corrupt power he wields.
>>25252671Nietzsche was a professor of Greek and taught them both
