>>25252889
all philosophy is for babies

>>25252889
Who is elderly man in hospice's last philosopher?

>>25252900
also Nietzsche

>>25252889
I honestly which I had started with him. Instead I started with Camus and the Stoics.

The first one should be Plato, it isn't even up for debate. Jesus, have you people not learned anything this whole time?

>>25252944
The problem with starting with Plato and Aristotle is that they genuinely do refer back to the Presocratics quite a bit, and even more significantly they reference Homer and Hesiod the way Christian philosophers reference the Bible
The Greek bards and Presocratic fragments are the true 'starting line' of Western philosophy

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>mogs your shitty ideas

>>25252889
Died as a lonely schizo that got aids, he will be forgoten

i like how you said it
however, i will not be prioritizing your girlfriend

>>25252951
That's not a problem at all. Most of what survives from the pre-Socratics are enigmatic fragments that are studied in conjuction with what people know from Plato and beyond.
Everything they make mention to that might be out of the scope of the work itself can be inferred, and the Hackett edition has helpful notes.
If you wasted your time deeply studying Homer and Heraclitus just to hear
>Remember that bit in Homer where Ajax fucks that dude up, lie splats his head! Bro... We should be more like that bro, this pussy ass dithyramb shit ain't helping us feel beast mode, know what I'm saying?
Or
>Heraclitus says love and like... not love are continually warring...bro it's eternal but change at the same time...Deep
Seriously, everything they reference is just cultural shorthand to make the same point you could make with a Marvel movie in this day and age.

We don't study Plato just because he's the first philospher with a full body of extant work, but because his output guides thinking through discourse in a method that's conducive to actually thinking about the world around you, from your perspective.
There really needs to be a distinction between those who want to think philosophically and those who want to study philosophers. It's really not the same thing.

>>25252900
Ben Klassen

>>25252889
Not even a philosopher thoughever, second rate thinker and merely an aphorist.