Kys bakker fag and screencap nigPrevious: >>25246401>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recs):https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb>Archive:https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg>Goodreads:https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg
Why is this OP so violent and hateful? Bakker"fag" I understand but...
>>25253842>Phone fag>sepia fag>blogpost fag>flood fag
>>25253842You should be glad he's just posting, not folowing the US tradition of going to bakkerfag's house with a gun under his coat.
>last book you read>current book you're reading>next book you plan to read
>>25253923>Sunlit man>metro 2033 and cant hurt me>elric saga
Steel Gods, The Great Silence #2 - Richard Swan (2026)I was ambivalent about the familiarity I felt with The Justice of Kings, the first book written in this setting, though not this series. That hasn't changed and there's far more with this book where how I felt could've gone either way, though most resolved in Swan's favor. What may matter most for your enjoyment with this book is your preferences and tolerances.The scope increases to where there's no doubt that this is epic fantasy. The book starts with the introduction of the Ayakashi Shogunate, which is very much not not-Japan. I appreciate that because it bothers when there's a world-ending catastrophe but the response is entirely local. There was one event was mythologically epic but also overdone.Survival and body horror were the focus of the first book. This time the horror is far more diffuse. There's religious; political; economic; existential; cosmic; and several other sorts of horrors, mostly conveyed through metaphor. Very violent and gory metaphors. Sometimes the horror doesn't signify anything other than something horrific has happened.There's no veil to the politics, especially near the end. Several of the epigraphs all but state they're about the current political moment. I read one character's perspective as an absurdist dark comedy satire because if I took it seriously I wouldn't have enjoyed myself.The few sex scenes are more mournful than erotic. Almost everything tends toward the grim and dark as its primary emotional inflection, including what's meant to be comic relief. Aside from one, the characters aren't terrible people, as can be the case in the stories like this. What they suffer doesn't make them worse, but it doesn't make them better either.The characters remain unimpressive in the usual sense that viewpoint characters are judged by, but I developed an appreciation for what they are. Several of the characters say they would rather die than continue on, but even so they do. They can't possibly carry the burden placed upon them, and yet they must try anyway. All they can do is the best they can to make it through each day and hope that somehow everything works out in the end, against all odds.The ending of this book is among the most bittersweet I've ever read. It's hilarious, fitting, and reassuring. Taken in context though, it's discouraging, demoralizing, and dispiriting. It had me reconsidering agency. The epilogue is an enticement to read the next book.There isn't anything in particular that I enjoyed enough to give it this rating. However, when considered altogether it's far greater than the sum of its parts. The contrast between the characters and the plot is oddly refreshing. The narrative turns and twists were rather amusing. The metaphors meant more to me than I'm willing to explain. I was engaged on a page by page basis. I chose not to be overly troubled, which arguably I ought to do more for the sake of my own enjoyment.Rating: 4/5
>>25253973your """reviews""" are SHITFUCK OFF
>>25253923Ascension: A NovelUhhhh... either Hothouse or... Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said. Haven't made up my mind yet.Either one of the above mentioned two.
>>25253923>Blood over Bright Haven>An Illusion of Thieves>Not sure yet. Maybe I'll try Worm.
>>25253973Didn't read. Don't care if it's good or not. But I just wanted to say that a modern book with a decent looking cover is extremely rare. So I might pick up these books just on that alone. I think we really do need to judge books by their cover.
So I picked up Récits du Vieux Royaume (Stories of the Old Kingdom). No relation to the Old Kingdom series about cute necromancer girls doing cute things. This one is french and possibly not translated in english, but you know what, it's fucking great. I almost hesitated to post it here because I'm about 150-200 pages deep (small prints) and there's been like two spells, and one of them didn't even work, but it's very well written and with a lack of dialog that is almost unread of these days. I'm not an expert in medieval history but it seems pretty clear that the author is. The lack of dialog is how he gets away with describing in great details all the bits and parts on how knights gear themselves up for example, or how military action is taken against an assieged city. None of that easy mode "And then Sire So-and-so had his esquires help him puts on his armor before charging the walls"The first part is really more of a compilation of novellas, each of them related to the others in way that are not immediatly obvious. The first one especially starts in a way that is immediatly interesting. It's a pretty big volume (because what I bought was actually two books sold together), which I picked up purely because the back cover was laconic enough to not actually spoil me the first third of the book, which is rare these days. I have every reason to think it will go the distance and remains this level of quality through and through.
>>25254100It's been mentioned here a few times before and lamented each time that it's not in English.
>>25254100>french Worst culture and worst language never ever reading something french
There's just too much to read. It's essentially infinite for a single life, even after disregarding 99.9% of it.
>>25253973Interesting and good review, unfortunately as you admit yourself in the end. Theres really no way to understand why you rated it so highly and how your particular experience took it
>>25254137I'm honestly worried that If I start Sun Eater and dont like it quick enough, that I might mentally die out of a loss of faith in writing to be not just meaningful. But to justify its lenght for depth ratio.I plan on reading a bunch of short books inbetween every two books so I dont die of burnout
>>25254129kek
>>25254129Unbelievably based post.
>>25254138That's just how it is. No matter how much one writes, as you've being doing for books, it remains a mystery. >>25254146Why not read short stories then?
I enjoyed eye of the world much more the fellowship of the ring. I just do not like Tolkien>"b-but you like tolkien lite??"Yeah, I'm just as surprised as you.
>>25252533 I'm aware of that author and sadly she doesn't seem to write the kind of stuff I want Thanks anyway
I'm finishing The Liveship Traders. Why no one talk about the Realm of the Elderlings here? Is it because it's made by a foid?
>>25254312https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Hobbhttps://warosu.org/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Elderlings
>>25254291I tried book one cause people said it wasnt generic fantasy and shit was so bad and tolkien coded, not one original idea kinda elder scrolls lore i dnfYou liking wot more than lotr is fine and your own taste
can I get recommendations for political strategy and intrigue and scheming based space opera novels other than dune?
>>25254320He starts out as a LotR clone because that's what would sell. In the later books, they delineate themselves more. Many such cases.
>>25254338I will never read it, for one i dont want to have to read 2-3 books for it to stop being tolkien lite, and then theres like 3-4 books than even wot fans say are slogSo yeah i am good not reading it, good for you for liking it tho
Too much apocalyptic magic stuff has technology suddenly stop working because reasons (Author didn't want cool guy sword wizards to eat lead) anyone know some good stuff that isn't handwavy magitech bullshit or urban fantasy?
What are some good entry level books?
>>25254413Do you have any idea of what wouldn't be handwavy?
>>25254424Anything that's popular and appeals to the lowest common reader.
>>25254434I don't mind starting there. Any good recs?
>>25254276>Why not read short stories then?I haven't figured out why my brain doesn't want to yet. But I have a theory.
>>25254424The Hungry, Hungry Caterpillar, Doctor Suess
>>25254325bumping you because im interested aswell, but ive heard sun eater applies for this
>>25253977Don't forget to report and ignore underage newfags like >>25253977 who actively contribute to off-topic discussion and have been spamming off-topic for over four years.>>21323327
>>25254430Stitched Worlds series I read a few years ago had it mixed well in my opinion (for web fiction). Magic is either from cultivation shenanery that needs to be built up over time or through crystals of solid magic that could be altered and arranged to produce consistent results. Like Fire Crystal + Control Crystal let him make a kiln after some trial and error but at the same time technology was perfectly fine so he drove around in a car and kept a pistol because shooting people works to a limit and while bullet immunity was sort of a thing it was more a shooting a cow situation where some things are just too big unless you kind find a proper gun (which one character did).
I didnt hate it. I liked it. I liked this writing. Maybe the one time I have just emotionally connected with a character in this story.My memory tells me I've said this before about one of the past books in the series, but I can't remember.
sigh why would you do this to me bookwhy would you force me to read the next book to find out what happens to Mycrofti dont know if I can survive reading through another fantasy/scifi book that is mostly documenting war. Im not yet convinced it is possible to write war well, interestingly, deeply, meaningfully.
fuark
>1000 pages when I could barely make it through 600FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>25254325>>25254452A Fire Upon The DeepA Memory Called EmpireAftershocksAltered CarbonAncillary JusticeColumbus DayConsider PhlebasCyteenDauntlessDawnDownbelow StationEmpire of SilenceEnder's GameForeignerFoundationGatewayGeneration ShipGideon the NinthHouse of SunsHyperionLeviathan WakesLightMass Effect: RevelationNevernessNinefox GambitOld Man's WarPandora's StarPrador MoonRed MarsRed RisingRevelation SpaceShards of EarthShards of HonorSpace VikingStar TrekStar Wars: Heir to the EmpireStarship TroopersSteel FrameThe Collapsing EmpireThe Cruel StarsThe DispossessedThe Forever WarThe Gap into Conflict: The Real StoryThe PrefectThe Reality DysfunctionThe Three-Body ProblemThe Uplift WarThese Burning StarsWe Are LegionRaft
>>25254475>i dont know if I can survive reading through another fantasy/scifi book that is mostly documenting war. Im not yet convinced it is possible to write war well, interestingly, deeply, meaningfully.The Suneater series is about war.
>>25254499NTA but if I may add: Perhaps the Stars
>>25254502Terra Ignota isn't space opera. They stay on Earth. What little there is about the Moon or Mars doesn't count.
>>25254501I'm talking less about the concept of war, and more about the logistics of war. And also I said "I'm not yet convinced" because maybe its possible to waste time describing the details of war, when those details rarely ever matter or are relevant latter, on, more often the abstract conclusion or start of the war is all that matters when written, and maybe whatever big event changes the expected result of that war, rarely the lead up to that event or the aftermath before the conclusion.Maybe itll be done. But if any book is going to do it. They MUST make me care about the characters and the foundations of the world/plot before they go into war.
>>25254509But the ships...
>>25254513I dub thee Weltschmerz anon.
>>25254501Why the fuck are you responding to a bot?You are a literal retard.
>>25254499of all xeelee books you put raftRAFTreally?fuck you normalfag
I've begun reading pic related to both dip my toes into the realm of sci-fi and fantasy, and to also give myself a starting point to write story reviews from. I read the first story and am disgusted by how low the bar is for something to be considered "sci-fi".
>>25254540What's the first story?
>>25254532It's the first book.Also, other reasons.
>>25254540The editor is Hugh Howey. Short fiction is very hit and miss in general. It's 2024. There are many other reasons why. A bad choice to begin with for sure.
>>25254540Ah, another literary reader who has come to what he considers the slums and ghettoes to try at random in bad faith to have a reason to condemn and condescend.
>>25254543It's the first novel but yeah fuck Baxter for writing his first non Xeelee short story some unrelated alt-universe mega gravity bullshit.
>>25254374your loss
>>25254532That's what bothered you? Not the Star Wars slop?
>>25254662star wars is shit too but it is a personal eternal torment to have read the entire xeelee sequence (minus like one or two books) and have never met anybody else to have read it all in all these godforsaken years I have been imprisoned on this imageboard
>>25254524Damn you're probably right unfortunately.
>>25254674Bro what books come after episode 6 in legends? I means is there books that replace ep 7 -9
>>25254541It's called How It Unfolds, by James S.A. Corey. Starts with the promising premise of Earth scientists using slow light projection/duplication to beam several instances of the same seed colony to planets all across the cosmos. This is then revealed to be set dressing for the angsty plot of the protagonist pining after his ex-wife, who is also part of the seed colony. There's a little neat imagery and scenarios, but these are relegated to asides consisting of transmissions from other seed colonies, and have minimal impact on the main story. The author also does this annoying thing where he gives the full name for a dozen characters, but only maybe 3 matter. It feels like an excerpt from a longer work, but the asserted criteria for collecting the stories into this book claim such a thing wouldn't be eligible for entry.>>25254550A bad choice for many reasons, but spite drives me beautifully.>>25254553This isn't me being biased, this is the story being bad.
>red rising newfag having a breakdown in /wng/What is it about the most megapopular normalfag series and making their readers convert to a fucking cult?
>>25254790Oh, How It Unfolds was part of an Amazon cash grab of strories by popular authors. Weird that it was included in there. I've read and written about it myself.
>>25254804>part of an Amazon cash grabMy retardation in choosing this book knows no bounds>I've read and written about it myself.What were your thoughts?
>>25254818S.A. Corey is the pen name of two authors writing together. I found it be disappointing compared to what else I've read by them, but everything in that collection was disappointing. Trying stuff out doesn't always lead to worthwhile results. Not much else I have to say about it at this time. I could link to what I wrote about it previously, but I don't think it'd matter much.
>>25254674This is quite the commitment for a single series.https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?259+None
>>25254843Start with Vacuum Diagrams and if you like it and want more, then read Timelike Infinity -> Ring, and go from there. The short story collections are fun. The first hivemind story was about the only one I did not read.If you want to read what 40Kfags WISH the Imperium was, then read Exultant.
>>25253852Why do you think op is black?
okay so NOBODY in this thead,, ever, NOBODY wants 2 talk about CIRSOVA and i am literally loosing my absolute SHIT about this rn. EIGHTEEN. issues. EIGHTEEEN. this absolute madlad kino-pilled based publisher has been putting out EIGHTEEN ISSUES of a pulp advenshure magazine since 2016 while all u nggas were bussy arguing abt whether bakker is a pedo or w/e and this guy is just over hear going DINOSAURS. ALIEN. WOMAN W/ FUR TRIM. TWO regular looking normie ass dudes who r clearly abt 2 have the wrst AND best day of their miserable lives. issue after issue after issue after ISSUE.do u SEE this cover anons. DO U SEE IT. there r TWO dinosaurs ok and they r NOT even the main fokus of the composishun which is insane layered KINO visual storytelling that ur pleb ass wouldnt understand. the alien is GLOWING. the woman in the center is wearing a superheroine suit with FUR TRIM which is the most based and unhinged sartorial decision in the history of illustrated specfic covers and i will NOT be elaborating futher or taking questins. the fur trim is CORRECT. it has always been correct. whoever greenlit the fur trim deserves a hugo nebula and a pulitzer simultaneously and probably wont get any of them bcuz the field is cowardly.the pulps didnt DIE becuz ppl got smarter or more sophistimacated or w/e pseud cope ur reaching for rn. i need every single one of u nggas to HEAR me wen i say this. they died becuz the DISTRIBUTIN NETWORKS COLLAPSED. thats it. thats the whole lore. it wasnt sum great cultural paradigm shifting awakening were humanity collectively decided they were finnaly Ready for ambiguous endings and unreliable narators and hyperobjects and whateva the fuk a "liminal narrative" is. no. sum businessmen made sum decisions abt magazine rack real estate in pharmacies and suddenly ther were no more spinning racks and everyone just forgot. the appetite never went away u idiots. ur still here arnt u. ur reading THIS arnt u. and now this one guy. this ONE absolute herculeean quixotic madman of a guy. decides 2 just. rebuild it. himself. from the literal smoldering ashes. and puts out EIGHTEEN issues. and the story in this issue is called THE SUPERIOR GRIEFS which is perhaps the single greatest title 4 any creative work produced by any human being in the entire post-gutenberg era of letters and i will fight any1 who disagrees in this thread or any other thread. superior. GRIEFS. plural. there r inferior griefs out ther. these ones hav been evaluated and ranked and determined 2 b SUPERIOR. i think abt this title wen i wake up. i think abt it wen i fall asleep. i will think abt it until i achieve final dissolution of self.
Is it better to recognize anons by their posting style or to remain oblivious and believe you're always talking to someone new?
read cirsova or i will continue 2 post abt it in every sffg thread 4 the rest of my natural life and possibly beynd. i have nothing but time and i am so far past unwell that unwell is a distant glimmering memory.
>>25253973your """reviews""" are GREATKEEP GOING
>>25254921>>25254924https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Cirsova
>>25254129kek’d and based. I’ve felt utter disgust for the French lately
>>25254312I’ve heard good things about her. The fact that she has like 20 series holds me back, though
>>25254921Do they fuck the girls in the cover or not?You are really bad at selling the series
I’m not gonna lie… I’ve been hating on Sanderson for a long time (despite the fact I have no beef with him, I just hate his fanbase) but I read the first couple of chapters from Elantris and it is entertaining. It’s not as quippy as I thought it’d be and the prose is beyond stale but it keeps me turning the pages.
>>25254937anon. ANON. i want u 2 monastically contemplate wat u just extruded from ur fingertips onto this mongolian basket weaving forum and sent in my direcction. u looked at my feverishly constructed, twitching, borderline SEIZURE-INDUCING magnum opus manifesto abt the eschatological necessity of pulp adventure fiction as a surviving and THRIVING cultural institutioon in the rotting corpse of western civilizashun, u looked at my painstaikingly assembled PROOFS regarding the CRIMINALLY UNDEREXAMINED collaps of early 20th century periodical distribuushun networks and their cataclysmic ramifying CONSEQUENCES 4 the entire trajectory of anglophone genre ficshun, u witnessed my extended and increasingly unhinged theologikal exegesis on THE SUPERIOR GRIEFS as possibly the most sublime, lapidary, and cosmically devastaing title ever affixed 2 a piece of creative writing by any hominid since the invention of the alphabet itself by whatever mesopotamian madlad decided squiggles shud mean things, and u processed ALL of this. digested it. and wat ur magnificent and deeply unimprovable brain PRODUCED in response. wat crawled out of u after encountering my complete and total psychic breakdown in text form. was:>do they fuk the girls on the coveranon i am not even remotely being sarcastic or condescending when i tell u that u have just made the single most incisive and penetrating and intellectually IRREPROACHABLE observation abt the fundamental metaphysical PURPOSE of the pulp tradition that has ever been made in any sffg thread in the entire sorry and benighted history of this godforsaken imageboard. u have stumbled, ass backwards, ur eyes glazed, into the most crucial and urgently necessary literary critical inquirey of our desicated and joyless postmodern moment and i am WEEPING with gratitude. actual tears. running down my face. onto my keyboard. several keys may b permanently damaged.
>>25254949Fuck yeah anon when you read mistborne you gonna have a great time Elantris is one of the 3 cosmere books i have left to read but most say its the worst
>>25254960Is Mistborn good?
>>25254953>>25254951Too long i guess they dont fuck i wont read cause the rest looks gay as fuck
>>25254953>weltschmerz>>25254524Glad to teach you a new word.
>>25254488Why do you fags keep reading this? Nothing that I've read of it here makes it seems worth while.
>>25254966The best sanderson sagaHis best standalone is yumi And best short story the emperour's soul
>>25254975nta Did you like Yumi for its romance?
>>25254976>Cosmere never finished lol martin really broke them mentally
>>25254980>Martin was the first person to ever create a book seriesWhat is this weird normalfagism?
>>25254975>>25254978Hoid totally fucked the tone of Yumi. It would have been much better eithout his narration.
>>25254978I am 2/3 in i am liking the anime vibe and the setting and the romance is like anime romance so i dont dislike it
>>25254982Bro yes, especially on the audiobook
Anyone interested in a book reading trade?
>>25254989That sound gay >should be compare books?>how long is your book bro??>you liking it?>did you finish yet?
>>25254971Because long ago, one anon once said>just went through terra ignota for the 2nd time and we legit don't deserve this kinoand it seemed worth checking out.The first few books were interesting, and not like anything I'd ever read, but it got too slow for me to keep going by the fourth.>>25254922There's at least four trivially recognizable recurring characters here, and probably another dozen or two who effort post. Do with that what you will.
>>25255000Oh, am I one of them?
>>25254999You've misunderstood.
>>25255009Not gonna check my digits?And yes, you are.
>>25255012GETs are dumb.
>>25255014And so are you.
>>25255015You too, Yev, you too.
>>25254971This general has largely been full of normalfags who only read the most popular FORM drivel.
>>25255026You need to pay more attention if you think he's me.
>>25255043It's just a numbers game. Accuse it enough and eventually it'll be right.
>>25255050Same strategy as the anti-Yev spammer, but I guess that's probably (You). What other recurring characters do we have?>anti-anti-Yev spammer>Screenshot flooder>BaynefagCurrently MIA:>Reddit Rising autists>BakkerfagThat's 7, assuming these are all different people.
>>25255075Which one are you?
>>25253923The Wind's Twelve Quarters The Compass RoseRocannon's World
>>25255075I tell you who i am if you add chad at the end
>>25255081All of them, when I'm in the mood.Does it bother you?
>>25255086 No one is reading Cirsova >>25255089 No one is reading Bakker
>>25255095Wrong i just asked the chisora guy if they fuck im the book
>>25255075>Reddit Rising autiststhere is comorbidity with /wng/
>>25255103How? That's not a webnovel.
>>25255109the most recent thread has suggested otherwise considering the behavior of RRfags
>>25255110>He's confusing Royal Road with Red Rising
>>25255117Totally, bro.
>>25255117No, I looked, and Red Rising got discussed a lot. None of them posted the usual fanart that shows up here though.
>>25255101>i just asked the chisora guy if they fuckYou asked Derek Chisora that? How bold.
>>25255125I am fury built i am koing the bum
>some /wng/fag read Red Rising growing up and made it his entire identity like every other normalfag who reads a megapopular bookIs this why we get so many regular RR shitposters? I assume a new book came out within the past couple of months?
>>25255154Omg kys take that shit to your containment thread faggot
>>25255155You will not make it in the Star Trek universe
>>25255157Take your megapopular garbage to outer lit.
>>25255160>he he was trolling at /wng/ please /lit/ chads do somethingFuck you go back
>>25255168>he hemichael jackson bot is mad
>>25255154I like the cool neo-Roman theme stuff. I incorporate it into my daily live. Living Roman-inspired gives motivation and purpose
>>25255158A supreme compliment
Jesus christ mistborn is fucking boring
>>25255282In what page are you
>>25255291Are you the dev?
>>25254312Unfortunately all discussions about Realm of the Elderlings are impossible because>FITZ GETS KEKED HAAHAHAHA ANOTHER MAN FUCKED THE GIRL HE LIKED HAHAHAAHAThere's just no way for any series to recover from that on this website.
>>25255309Writted by a foid and cucking in the book, fuck that shiet nig wtf that shit better be forgotten asap
>>25254662Fuck you, Stars Wars was cool
>>25255345"Was" being the imperative
>>25255000>one anon once saidI dont remember this honestly, I got convinced by a first time reader who'd just finished it. He didn't even say that much that was convincing, I was just desperate at the time.
>>25255011nta what book have you got for me. i dont think you'll be able to get through perhaps the stars
This dude doing page-by-page analysis of random scifi/fantasy slop books is a fucking wacko.
>>25255441Recognize it for what it really is.Avatarfagging with multiple images.
>>25255354I'm not interested in you. I've already read Perhaps The Stars.
>>25255309I didn’t know about this and had this series added to my TBR. Thanks, I’ll be removing it then. Has anybody read Wars of Light and Shadow by Janny Wurts? It came up as something I might like if I liked Malazan, but after reading this about Realm of the Elderlings, I’m slightly leery.
No-God never...
>>25255291Buy an ad faggot
How do you all feel about Terry Brooks?I've read some people call his early books too similar to Tolkein, but I don't reckon that as a criticism
>>25253923>only 4 other readersGrim.>>25255968The Shannara books have some fun ideas. My favorite was when Walker Boh the badass druid was fighting off the Four fucking Horsemen, and then the other book series where Walker led an expedition involving meeting a rogue AI.
>>25256023You're assuming a 100% response rate, which is a ridiculous assumption.
>>25255968Loved him when I was between the ages of like, 12-18. Now at 35 I can't honestly remember the last time I engaged with his work. I think I finally crapped out around... Bearers of the Black Staff? I remember absolutely adoring the prequel stuff and Shannara proper. Scions was always hit or miss but I loved most of it.I remember a time when I thought Armaggedon's Children was one of the greatest books I had ever read, lol.That Word & Void book that takes place in the modern world during 4th of July was comfy as fuck to read during the summer as a kid..
>>25256082The early Shannara origin stuff were some of his last books I had bought. I thought it was neat how he tied Word and Void into it and made Shannara far-future post-apoc Earth
>>25256097ntaA lot of series do your spoiler, but yeah, seeing for the first time it doesn't matter how many other series have done it.
>>25256097Yeah, that was definitely my favorite thing about his stuff. The development that the Shannara was just a post-apocalyptic reshaped version of our world was really neat to me. I think to this date The Word & Void stuff is the only urban fantasy I ever bothered with.
>>25255284idk, im on an ereader. Vin just got back from meeting a CUTE BOI at the ball
>>25256105Right. I didn't mean to imply that Brooks was the first one. It was cool because I had read basically every Shannara from the first to Genesis at that point. It was cool to see the world progress between different series too.
>>25255968More like Terry-ble B(r)ooks, am I right?
>>25255441>>25255467He's ruining the threads by talking about shit nobody cares about
>>25256409I like responding because I like the books.
>>25256409>nobody, by which I mean, not myself, since that's all that matters
>>25256455What'll happen when he starts talking about books nobody likes? Just ruin the threads for no reason but his ego at that point?
>>25256481I, for one, am tired of the constant normalfag narcissism dictating that I only discuss megapopular trad-pub works.
>>25256488No one is dictating your behavior.
>>25256484I'll just ignore them then, like half the posts in this thread. Are you stupid?
>>25256497>behavior is not punished nor rewardedOkay.
>>25256501That's true. Being replied to isn't a reward and being ignored isn't a punishment.
>>25256524New to the Internet?
>>25254755Heir to the empire, book one of the Thrawn trilogy which is a continuation of the mainline star wars story. Approved by Lucas himself (though he didn't help develop it or anything)
Is it fantasy to have a frog driving an automobile?
>>25256555Not as fantastical as bakker.
>>25256555>calling Mr. Toad of Toad Hall a frogWhat a weaselly thing to do.
>>25256555Checked
>>25256121There is a bit of slog with the dances but trust it, its all important
>>25256554Thanks nigro, took you a while to respond i googled it and i downloaded the thrawn trilogy, but yeah i hope i can replace the sequels memory with this books
>>25256555We don't talk about children's books here.
>>25253973Men can still be published in current year? A straight white man at that? With a good cover? I didn't know that was still possible.
>>25256728>straight white manThey never existed.
>>25256498You're the stupid self centered one that doesn't care for the quality of a general.
>>25256051>only 4 other readers that matter
The worst type of books to read are the ones that make you wonder if you can ever possibly read and enjoy a book again. If quitting a book wont merely disconnect you from the problems of that book, but follow you to every other book.This only exists in a book you read, and can't reconcile the purpose of some collection of text. Its not a matter of what can be understood its a matter of "what is the point of wasting so much time on this, when so much of it is just information. Just words. Just definitions in a dictionary as if those words were never meant to go together in sentences. Just exist as "information". Documentarion. Organization. Text.
>>25257034SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP. NOBODY FUCKING CAAAAAARES TAKE YOUR FUCKING ANTIPSYCHOTIC MEDICATION ALREADY, HOLY FUUUUUCK YOU DRONE ON AND ON ABOUT SHIT LITERALLY NO ONE CARES ABOUT!
I wasted 15 bucks on 4 hours of entertainment and pseudo intellectualism bragging rights.I haven't read a book in 12 years and now remember why.
>>25257049Bro if you don't like to read don't do it
>>25257049>Didn't watch the Omega ManHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA, YOU THOUGHT I AM LEGEND WAS CLOSER TO THE WOLL SMOTH MOVIE, HAHAHAHA!
>>25257052>>25257053the book is alright but too short for that amount of money I've spent.
>>25257041Getting baited by a bot.
>>25257053Anon... I Am Legend is closer to the book than The Omega Man is..
>>25253825I haven't read in any fantasy while. What chud romance book should I pick?
>>25257160>>25256555
>>25253825So i read it and it was admittedly pretty amazing.Certainly many steps above what writers today can even come up with, but it kind of lost me by the end?Urth of the New Sun had no business being written. The end of Citadel was as good as it gets.Urth ruined much of the mythology for me, and it convoluted things even further, and it was also unnecessarily depressing.Severian still felt like he didn't really mature even by the end, and he ended up feeling like an unwitting stooge.Him also being a philanderer, a rapist, and a potential child molester(?) does justify him not even managing to have a single successful relationship.Overall, it's certainly a sci-fi achievement, but i feel as though it could have been better without Urth, and a slightly less convoluted ending.
>>25257214>a rapistStopped reading there as you are wrong. Also Urth is great.
>>25257053>someone else calls him Woll Smoth<3
>>25257249he raped her. He even tried to cover it up in urth with (they said I did) like who are you talking to except your own guilty conscience.Also, the '' I didn't do anything with little little sev , but it sure would hurt Dorcas after the imaginary lesbian tryst she had''. If that's not an admission of guilt, i'm not sure what is.
>>25257266We've gone over this many times but I guess I'll have to reiterate. Firstly he's taking to his feminist contemporaries at the time like Le Guin who said could be seen as rape.Jolenta is pretending to be asleep on the boat. She desires to be desired and even flirts with Sev. Even look how those around him act after it's a whatever hookup. Modern readers are also reading through a modern lens. I don't mean to say this was written at a different time with different moral gripes. I'm saying that whatever alien future yet feudalism world is set here in this story would obviously have different attitudes towards sex. To dismissively label what happened as rape rejects the subtle close reading that BoTNS demands.
>>25253973I've finished reading and writing about Platform Decay, the newest Murderbot book, but I won't be posting it here for my own reasons. You'll have to look on Goodreads.
>>25257512Why even post this here?
>>25254949>>25254960>>25254975I don’t care who the Mormon Church sends, I’m not reading any more Sanderslop
I randomly thought about The Name of the Wind yesterday and looked up if there was any news about Doors of Stone, only to be disappointed again. I will continue praying.
I think I worded my last post poorly what I meant plainly to say is that its hard to read something when the thing youre reading is essentially just a telling of events and happenings. Now a stupid person may say "isnt that all stories!" well then a textbook or a wikepedia page is a "story". And I don't really care whether youre fine with using words arbitrarily so are content with such a definition. I actually dont mind it as much anymore. I was reading very angrily and frustrated based on the assumption that "meaning" as a concept is real and most people, and authors intend to mean something when they say something, but I forgot that thats simply not actually that true, a sufficient reading of post 18th century philosophy will tell you that (which is so ironic with how heavily this books leans into 18th century philosophy as a theme as if there was no philosophy before and after, and as if the philosophies that came right after werent direct responses and criticisms of the 18th century following after Hume and Kant (who himself said his eyes were opened by Hume) and their successors. Philosophy still tried dearly to hold onto traditions of the "enlightenment" (fake idea) with empiricism and early analytic philosophy, but even that was decimated by its own creators/strongest proponents later, on top of the amount of post world war 2 philosophers who strongly came to question what the "enlightenment" gave us.It feels very weird, for a book so much about war, to skim over the set of philosophies that came after one of the biggest and most impactful wars of all of recent human history. I'd say, that should actually be the "Church Wars" that the book constantly references, and I hate to be cheap because I understand conceptually how hard this must be to write as only a historian, not a philosopher. But its very clear that there should be some big influential philosophers and philosophical ideas after a "Church war" that creates a world where religion is effectivelu "taboo" but its concepts arent.This is a sort of tacit criticism of the worldbuilding in general, in that so many of the ways this world exists, and the ways the people of the world think, and the weird arbitrary selective obsession with the 18th century are just odd. If you've read enough anime, youll come across an anime that is weirdly obsessed with one specific scientist or philosopher, and they never delve deeply into either, they just toy with casual normal impressions of those ideas. I explained why this is a problem, because "quote" philosophy which the worst youtube philosophy channels love, is horrible. But theres a more intuitive reason: The Person ends up taking precedent over the ideas. (1/2)
>>25257584Ok then go to the corner bitch this a sandergod thread
>>25257620I will give name of the wind a chance especially cause i like cuck characters and i hope one day i get a pornstar or escort gf no memeing
>>25257642>sandergod100% chance this faggot would suck his toes
>>25257620>>25257658The mentality of normalfag specimen.
How many people have you seen quote the "Albert Einsteins definition of insanity..." Why should what a scientist thinks insanity is matter. He's not a psychologist or doctor. But its because hes Einstein and "the smartest guy ever" that people dont even need a rationale or argument. They just need the association of something that appeals to their intuiton. With something that is considered smart. Nothing else matters. I actually usually dont bring up the criticism of how obsessed the series is with 18th century philosophy and how little sense it makes because the sort of people that already think Im pedantic for criticizing Kraye and Madame, and for asking why the Mitsubishi dont have a real reason for owning all the Land and creating what seems to me (because theres no properly giving sociological basis or reason) like artificial conflict because they wont give up land. Will just think I'm even more pedantic for not simply swallowing uncritically all the stupid assumptions of 18th century thought that we have long evolved past.For a book that is immensely about progress, and values, and being better than the past, whether other readers agree or not. It has a very narrow focus on the past, and a very shallow justification of its values and the idea of progress, when philosophers long after the 18th century have talked in depth about these concepts.So I've become more tolerant of the book simply "telling events and happenings" because as cheap as it sounds. It clearly has not thought through the implications of how its world is set up, and communicated, to imbue a meaning that could overcome how much time it wastes, talking about nothing but what people are doing, and what things are happening.Somebody who responded to one of my criticisms STUPIDLY (Im allowed to get angry now because reading this part of the book reminded me of my core problem) dismissed my criticisms by essentially saying "all those things arent that important all that matters is the point the series is communicating".When you spend this much time. This many pages. This many words. On stuff that has little to do with the point. And when you spend that much time, pages, and words and the world building still isnt even that tight. And when you spend that much time, pages, and words, on how things came to be and the story still reeks of contrivances and conveniences (Everything about Kraye is so absurdly moustache twirling evil mastermind, that the effects are still felt all the way up to this book in how he fucked the backup transit system which also happens to be centralized in ONE PLACE. ONE HIVE. IN ONE FUCKING BASH, AND OTHER GOVERNMENTS CANT DO ANYTHING ABOUT it being sabotaged BECAUSE OF THAT CONTRIVED CONVENIENT FACT.). Then whether you want it or not. You open yourself up to that criticism.I simultaneously wish this series' story was simpler and more complicated, currently it occupies a frustrating middle ground that reaps the benefit of neither.
>>25257678(2/2)
>screencap nig maxxin all day everyday>forgets image Lol what a fag
Super Powers.
Where did all this come from? Its funny, I was kind of in disbelief about the idea that Religion could just disappear even in 400 years when its lasted so long. But I didnt care because it wasnt that relevant. Now I'm being told people have been secretly celebrating their shitty religious holidays, like secret gay meetings back when gays werent quite legal?How many people in this world are still religious? How many of those have been breaking the rules this entire time? Well whatever, I dont care that much about these random unexplained "facts".
>>25257827Think of it like spotlight worldbuilding. It was always there, you just couldn't see it until the light was shined on it.
>>25253825Saw this on the front page, saw the comment about Bakker. All I have to say is Bakker is king.
>>25258030Is bakker better than Grahame?
>>25258009Yeah I know. The problem is when it feels spontaneous for a convenient reason. Like that infamous literary device that I forgot because I don't care that much about the technicalities of literary/storytelling concept. That one where you conveniently reveal some thing that was technically always could be relevant but had no reason to be, so that when it shows up it seems cheap.I don't think its Chekovs Gun or Deus Ex Machina, this is more subtle than that, and the book has been doing this for a while now ever since the 3rd book, the worldbuilding suddenly matters in these hyper convenient ways, and so when you look closely, you realize how little was ever well founded/established
>>25257620Pat Rothfuss stole someone’s work and claimed it as his own, no other explanation. He tried inserting some of his own shit into the second book and it was disliked so he got shocked and gave up.
>>25258060>>25258009Kys
>>25258158So you like the first book? You identify with the cuck mc?
>>25258175Most people don't need to identify with a character to read about them, most people don't self-insert as the protagonist and feel grossly violated by such events.
>>25254921Comsidering the authors they feature write shit like this, I'm going to pass.
>>25258259>Darth Vader's themeDoes he mean the Imperial March?
>>25258263Probably
>>25258269Well shouldn't he call it that, then?
>>25258273"Darth Vader's theme" is more recognizable to normalfags.OTOH the author may be too dumb to know what the actual name of the track is.
>>25258259Holy shit thats what crisova fag likes to read lol
>>25254921i have no idea what this is, but the definition on the girl in the middle’s abs made me want to go masturbatei will now be going to do as such
Suddenly remembered how I used to read this shitand it made me mad.
I read all the Anno Dracula series (6 books).They're all good in their own way (#4 amd #6 are somewhat boring). The first one is peak though, lightning in a bottle. Definitely recommended to read if you like a Victorian setting where pretty much every famous real and fictional Victorian makes an appearance.
>>25258175>You identify with the cuck mc?Do you think people need to self insert to read and like a book?
>>25258558Is the OG Stoker novel required reading?
Is Dune actually good? I've heard everything from only half of the first book is good, to all the books until Frank died are good
>>25258624I've only ever read the first two. I think they're both great but I've always thought Messiah was the better book.
>>25258560A very large number of fantasy readers do indeed think that; that's why you often see something akin to "the protagonist is a bad person" presented as a criticism of a series.
>>25253825The search for a big long series to listen to while working on the house continues.Discworld was too cheesy for me. Would have hit hard when I was younger.
instantly sold out lolbots?
>>25258677Can I interest you in a word about Our Most Holy Aspect Author and Warrior Poet, R. Scott Bakker? His books have been recorded.
>>25258702Yes that’s why I’m here.Downloading, thanks.
>>25258648Only stupid people do that; you're not stupid are you, Anon?
>>25258783I'm nta
>>25258700You will pay scalpers 5x the price and you will like it. There's clearly no demand for a made to order reprint
>>25253973I really liked the previous trilogy he did
>>25254960I already read Mistborn and it was fun. Started reading Well of Ascension and couldn’t get past the first few chapters
>>25257584Kek trust me, Sanderslop is not something I’m defending. I’m just saying it’s not as egregious as you might think and definitely not as bad as the dogshit that the last two books of Stormlight Archive are
>>25258648>that's why you often see something akin to "the protagonist is a bad person" presented as a criticism of a series.If anyone has this thought process they are literally too low IQ to read
>>25258873IQ doesn't have anything to do with it.
has anyone read this series
>>25258876Stfu bitch
>>25258873Fasntasy discussions are filled with this sort of presumption. You can see it within within this very thread
>>25258900*subintellege 'within' semel
>>25257827What the fuck did you think Sensayers were doing with their clients? The king of Spain is stated to be literally Catholic.
