How do you cope with all your favorite authors being problematic?
>>25255392I refuse to read books written by someone who wasn't otherwise shit at being alive
that's just saying you are a naive cuck that expects past humans to meet your modern expectations, nothing spells more immature than this
>>25255392What does "problematic" mean?
Millions of leftoids live their life like this btw
>no notable ideasthis is the equivalent of being a professional 4channer
>>25255392I become more problematic than them, that makes them better people.
>>25255423>Problematize the Eschaton
>>25255392authors, even /lit/ writers, will be cucked by Editor pass. Of course they have to be mentally ill
STOP FUCKING SAYING THE WORD PROBLEMATIC
broblemadick :DDDD
>your country is at war>president is a demented loony>people are raped and shot everywhere around you every day>niggers steal everything that isn't bolted to concrete>"ugh, the author of the book I read had opinions!"It's like there's something they're trying very hard not to see...
>>25255807*meric*ns deserve 4/5 out of the above, but the fifth is a mental poison that infects the rest of the world.
Option 1: Vet everyone to make sure they have the right beliefs, attitudes, personality traits, and behavioral histories in order to avoid cognitive dissonance and feelings of guilt and shame; develop coping strategies for when you miss a "problematic" detail; persecute your own curiosity and interest to be the best mindbroken slave you can be for the herd.Option 2: Get the fuck over yourself and enjoy what you like.
>>25255392I refuse to learn anything about the authors.
I'm not a snowflake who melts every time I find out someone who died 200 years ago said the word nigger.
>>25255407https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1qzYsESDhc
>>25255407Feel strange watching zoomers worshiping my youth.
>>25255392I love it. Every author should be more racist, sexist and homophobic. If they're not they should be thrown in prison and held down and raped repeatedly by both the guards, inmates and Donald J Trump (he ended up in there because of Epstein)
>>25255915>someone's got to do the raping
>>25255392That's why I read. It makes me realize I'm not crazy. I was tearing up reading Kipling's 'The Stranger' the other day. I'm not the one who's crazy, damnit. People used to think like me.
>>25255993people still do, npcs only regurgitate mass opinion
>>25255392I'm a chud, so being problematic is no problem.
>>25256099Wow. Sorry you decided you're a "chud"
>>25255993pedwerast.
There are so many people incapable of separating the art from the artist that I’m starting to think it’s abnormal to be able to separate them.
>>25256104Most places don’t even see it as an insult anymore
>>25256116it's just cuz pop culture is built around cult of personality of artists. that's relatively new in history of art.
>>25255392I literally don't care. Usually when I find out about the "problematic" past of an author I like, I think "Wow, he was more based than I thought."
>>25256116Why separate it. I find art even better when the artist is evil
The entire "problematic" thing makes my fucking skin crawl. Anyone who talks like this automatically sounds like they're a willing host to some kind of mind-controlling fucking brain parasite.
>coddle party vs trigger warning festivalcall it
everybody in this thread gangster until they find out the author of a book they're reading is gay or jewish
>>25255407I will make this one the favorite bride in my femboy harem
>>25256116>I’m starting to think it’s abnormal to be able to separate themModern identity politics made the mere act of doing that tantamount to being a fucking social outcast. I can remember when the switch happened too. I consciously remember a time when I was discussing music with a dear female friend like, fifteen plus years or so ago now who had recently relocated to Eugene, Oregon and I remember mentioning that I was becoming a big Eric Clapton fan and she made a point of jumping down my throat that she couldn't even fathom liking his music because of "what he did to Patty Boyd" she acted genuinely disgusted too.I think that was the first time I remember thinking "huh? What the fuck? I just like his music" and being genuinely bewildered.I'm saddened to say shit has only gotten much, much MUCH worse since then.
>>25256118I see it as an insult. The "chud vs. tranny" dichotomy is like an "orc vs. goblin" dichotomy. Why choose to identify as an untermensch?
>>25255407It's when you don't "vibe" with whatever insane shit they believe today.
>>25256141the artist is a young woman identifying as FTM and apparently just started hormones. my heart is breaking honestly. The idea that it'd be politically incorrect to say "hey, I like your art, it's cute. Please don't take male hormones." is killing me.
>>25256139fax, you also forgot trans
>>25256139>>25256306We don't talk like niggers here.
>>25255392So close to self-awareness yet so far away.
>>25256328Awwww is poor chuddywuddy twiggered because American Psycho and Fight Club were written by raging faggots???
>>25256365no, no one actually cares about that. i doubt you've even read those books
>>25256365Faggots are ok, niggers are not
>>25255392By buying all editions of all their books and donating to their families.
>>25255392I'd cut off of my balls and grow bitchtits
I can't think of a single case where I'd enjoyed a book and later realized that all the authors thoughts are fucking retarded.
>>25255410the sooner they stop reading the better
>>25256457I experienced it after reading a few Peter Watts novels
>>25255392if authors were anonymous and merely had the equivalent of trip codes to keep track of them, I'd be overjoyed. I don't care if they're problematic, I don't care if they're woke, I don't care about anything but the book they wrote. Anything else is a distraction and I fucking hate it that people on both sides obsess over creators in such a meta way.
>>25256633Same way a Chud infects his work with chuddisms, thus a Karen with karenisms, thus a Soi with soiïsms, etc
>>25255903I'm the opposite, I like reading extensively about authors' lives but don't read any of their work
>>25256139>>25256365Most of the books read here were written by gay Nazi pedo
>>25256715But at one point does that become a self-fulfilling prophecy? You start looking for those things, or interpreting things in those ways, because they're influencing your thought processes.Take Brandon Sanderson. He's a Mormon and thus all his works are viewed through that lens - there are many pieces on how his works reflect his faith, specific tenets, and so on. But if you didn't have that knowledge then it's doubtful you'd come to the same conclusion, because his works are strictly fantasy, and while they deal with religion they absolutely do not map cleanly - or at all - to our own theologies, let alone Mormonism. It's a bit like that "what did the author mean by blue curtains?" meme while knowing the author is a member of the Blue Man Group. The odds of you interpreting it as "well they're blue because their blue, there's no other meaning" is a lot lower, and not because it's any less true.
>>25256717got a specific niche of authors?
>>25256733>Take Brandon SandersonWtf no wonder his novels didn't have any strong female identifying witches as the heros (non-gendered, but fully-bending)
>>25255392Kindly kill yourself.
>>25255905Huh. But how do you virtue signal online, then?
>>25255392>How do you cope with all your favorite authors being problematic?i steal all my books
>>25256139Clive Barker is based, though.
>>25255407Means you don't believe white people need to go extinct
>>25256797Man. I love the people people refer to as white people.
>>25256116No the weird part is that the same people who say art is in the eye of the beholder and anything can be art are the ones who want to ban art because it was made by someone who had “bad opinions” or some kind of “allegations” against them. It’s death of the author and the author tainting the work to make it taboo coming from the same people. Of course if you then bring up treasured “lgbt icons” like Oscar Wilde or Andre Gide being pedophile rapists that is suddenly an unfair rightwing attack. In any case no reason to reject their work or status. Core leftism pillars like Foucault are also pedophile rapists. Again, not a problem. Even if their ideas were partly in service of continuing to erode morality and make it ok to be a pedo rapist, that shouldn’t take anything away from their very important legacy. DFW was a misogynist chud and probably a rapist though so don’t read him. It doesn’t make any sense because they don’t actually have any principles despite insisting that they do. When you get that, it does make sense. Just self-serving horseshit, like being against book banning until it’s a book that’s “problematic” then they support it.
>>25256242I'm a hobgoblin chad
>>25256116Art shouldn't be separated from the artist.
>>25256139Gay is a case by case thing. Henry James was almost certainly gay but rather than indulging in faggotry it made him turn towards celibacy and an intellectual monasticism of sorts. That's fine.Wilde and Gide are not.I also never heard about a jewish author who sounded interesting enough that I would want to read them. I would also never read anything by a jew accidentally because I would never read a book, fiction or non-fiction, without running a background check on the author beforehand. Reading indiscriminately is no less problematic for the mind than being a sexual degenerate who has sex indscriminately.
>>25257962posting on 4chan like it hides my name
>>25255814American message board. You're free to post elsewhere if you'd like.
>>25255392I only care if it's good or not. I'm not a fucking retard.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg&ra=m
>>25255392I'll only choose to read a writer if he's problematic.
>>25256721Books are fascist, take my words into your head, respect their MEANING! The nerve of those authors.
>>25255392Why they still use twitter? That site is owned by a problematic chud
>>25260550We use verbs here, nigger.
>>25256242it's called "being based"
>>25256365you wrote American Psycho and Fight Club? impressive
>>25255392I just don’t care about the morality of envious retards and continue to read the works of great men instead of listen to the words of people who produce nothing of value.
>>25260588that's what I'm talking about
>>25255410I'm pretty retarded about politics so I mostly just keep my mouth shut about them, but I like art and music and books so all my friends are lefties. Definitely like 9-10 years ago it'd be a problem if you said you "separate the art from the artist" but it does seem from my POV that people are lightening up about that more nowadays. The online SJW crowd is probably still in full force but all the IRL people I see actually existing in creative scenes don't really give a shit anymore. I don't really know the greater picture but I've seen at least 10 of my art friends go from near SJW vibes to getting into cumtown to just saying retarded and gay again
Of course they are, normies can only make normieslop. Why the fuck would anyone want to read that?
>>25255392I was kinda surprised to see how anti-Semitic Marx was. I guess even the best ones have their blind spots
>>25260872Who are these "best ones"? I know you're not talking about Marx because that's his only redeeming quality.
>>25260554You called him a nigger just because he forgot to type do? Have some faith.
>>25260885His redeeming quality was his intellect and sheer insight into the structures of society. Even the work that the supposed anti-semitism comes from makes a profound statement on the limitations of mere formal constitutional liberalism. And the anti-semitism itself serves a purpose.
>>25260885Marx completed Hegelianism and by extension German Idealism, he was one of the greatest geniuses ever to grace us
>>25256250Man, you are so problematic, anon.
>>25257991Erm. Wrong. Christopher Poole, a Jew, created it with the assistance of Jeffrey Epstein, also a Jew. This is a Jewish message board. Stop trying to take the credit for things you had no part in.
>>25255392Being 'problematic' is the bare fucking minimum for me respecting the author at all.
>>25255392I only read dead authors
>>25261050moot isn't a jew, newfag thirdie
>>25256242If you aren't some flavor of gay you're a chud to anyone that thinks chud is an insult. I have no desire to be a chud, but I'm not a troon so I'm a chud.