If Kant were alive today what would he think about the esoteric kantians?
I don‘t know
>>25256382i wasn't asking you faggot
idk i havent read kant
idgi
He wouldnt think anything at all.
>>25256366>these /lit/ niggas talk about my work and they clearly never read my book
Nick Land, more like Nig Land amirite
>>25256699thinking is for apesknowing is for gods
We already know, we‘ve seen this movie before. https://www.scribd.com/document/873853685/Public-Declaration-Concerning-Fichtes-Wissenschaftslehre-August-7-1799Kant was a genius but also was too retarded and senile to understand other people riffing on him.
>>25257117Such a heartbreaking letter, think about how important Kant was to Fichte as you read this. He changed his entire life after reading Kant, he named his only child after Kant.
>>25257131he had to do. he couldn't risk being associated with Fichte. i know it's fucked but i remember that one time Fichte as Kant for money because he was broke Kant was just like no. and Fichte was just oh oh ok then. Like Kant did not give af.
>>25257212Yeah idk. I know. I‘m reading Kant in german slowly. Germsn grammar is retarded. What does einschlagen mean? Kill, gouge, take a path, turn s vehicle. Kant mainly liked the third of that. Ugh so much gin gave zp
>>25257262i love german grammar. einschlagen means to break through, like breaking through a wall or barrier, or yea
>>25256366He'd hate them for ruining and subverting his philosophy, like with Fichte but far more extreme
>>25257131He was entirely justified in doing so. Fichte completely perverted his work. Not as bad as Schelling and Hegel of course, but he could probably see the writing on the wall that charlatanized version of his thought would begin to dominate German philosophy. People simply aren't intelligent enough to rest easy with the knowledge we can't access the ding-an-sich, that Reason has boundaries and we can't attain justified knowledge of the Absolute
>>25257337refuted by esoteric kantianism
>>25257337>The few passages that remained obscure to me, after due efforts of thought, (as the chapter on original apperception,) and the apparent contradictions which occur, I soon found were hints and insinuations referring to ideas, which Kant either did not think it prudent to avow, or which he considered as consistently left behind in a pure analysis, not of human nature in toto, but of the speculative intellect alone. He had been in imminent danger of persecution during the reign of the late king of Prussia, that strange compound of lawless debauchery and priest-ridden superstition: and it is probable that he had little inclination, in his old age, to act over again the fortunes, and hair-breadth escapes of Wolf. The expulsion of the first among Kant’s disciples, who attempted to complete his system, from the University of Jena, with the confiscation and prohibition of the obnoxious work by the joint efforts of the courts of Saxony and Hanover, supplied experimental proof, that the venerable old man’s caution was not groundless. In spite therefore of his own declarations, I could never believe, that it was possible for him to have meant no more by his Noumenon, or Thing in itself, than his mere words express; or that in his own conception he confined the whole plastic power to the forms of the intellect, leaving for the external cause, for the materiale of our sensations, a matter without form, which is doubtless inconceivable. I entertained doubts likewise, whether, in his own mind, he even laid all the stress, which he appears to do, on the moral postulates.-esoterik kantian Coleridge
>>25257414and rebutted by Chokmah
>>25257443nein jew friend. the goal is the same, but esoteric kantianism does not submit to tradition and dogma—the goal must be arrived at apodictically through reason. not even the spiritual practices are freed from this demand, they must also be rationally derived from the metaphysics.
>>25257469it is exactly what I have stated: kabbalistic interpretation makes the orthodox Jew + Christian spin their hats out of incomprehensibility which is why Kant is the step forward between both their systems, using the cold scalpel of reason he had no allegiance except to Trvth therefore keep lit his torch although it may blind your lesser brethren
>>25257443>Chokmah is the energy of pure, undifferentiated thought—the creative impulse that precedes logicBro...
>>25257509does Wisdom not mog the Ruach?
>>25257469>still perplexed
>>25257532is this a hint at maimonides?
>>25257536perhaps you’d like me to indicate the chapter for you as well?
>>25257337>Fichte completely perverted his work.*developed his work ftfy
>>25257538ok but do it riddly. make me work for it.
>>25257540hardly possible…he names the subject matter you seek in this chapter’s very first line
>>25257544ugh ok fine
I for one am enormously pleased with the Judaization of /lit/
>>25257555your tech has been open sourcedthe rest of it is kept in tunnels
>>25257559all the books in the world couldn’t teach a goy
>>25257561what does the OT have to say about hubris lil hat nigga?
>>25257539There was nothing that needed to be developed, it was already perfect. Every attempt to develop Kantianism just creates a perverse web of contradictions whether it be Fichte, Schelling, Hegel, or Schopenhauer
>>25257578This but Aristotelianism with Kant being one of the perverse contradictory attempts to develop itEverything Kant wrote is already refuted in the PostAn and Metaphysics
>>25257603Respectable opinion
>>25257564anyone is free to choose the covenant
>>25257578>it was already perfectlmaokant himself>when we compare the thoughts that an author expresses about a subject, in ordinary speech as well as in writing, it is not at all unusual to find that we understand him even better than he understood himself, since he may not have determined his concept sufficiently and hence sometimes spoke, or even thought, contrary to his own intention” -KrV A 314/B 370, tr. 396
>>25257612that juridical slide aint finna work on me lil nigga but you keep on doing you
>>25257618the freedom to choose makes rejection worse don’t you think? like if goy were a race one might feel sorry for them. but it isn’t. fascinating paradox wouldn’t you agree?
- stop fucking glazing him he's a meme
>>25257615the germans are unanimous in their errant faith that they have elapsed mystery, mysticism, the esoteric, the occult. this extract is a great example.
>>25257623in the same way, I'd dismiss all orthodox iews as unworthy plebians to be used in the greater game of geopolitics that's what tetragrammaton would've preferred in his 5th sphere
>>25257663there’s certainly a case to be made
>>25257625stop fucking what?
>>25257672indeed but im not psychopathic. mayest thou fare well, and all ye brethren before the unholy state: for my people are destroyed from lack הדעת
>>25257687you don't know what glazing means? but i just said it
>>25257631not elapse but understand it, comprehend it. >there is mystery in the mystical, only however for the understanding which is ruled by the principle of abstract identity; whereas the mystical, as synonymous with the speculative, is the concrete unity of those propositions which understanding only accepts in their separation and opposition. And if those who recognise Mysticism as the highest truth are content to leave it in its original utter mystery, their conduct only proves that for them too, as well as for their antagonists, thinking means abstract identification, and that in their opinion, therefore truth can only be won by renouncing thought, or as it is frequently expressed, by leading the reason captive.
>>25257691too much hermes not enough torah. go in peace
>>25257719like a donut? like krispy kreme original glazed?
>>25257724elapse: to surpass a limit, as one does, in Hegel, when “knowing” (of) such a limitunderstand: to capture under the formal oppositions of categorization, leading, in Hegel, to errors interminable except by mystical resort to allegory.you mustn’t be afraid to read a little deeper
>>25257729I understand. Mayest thou not falter before an alien tongue.
>>25257625Wow. Some random zoomer on a Burmese snake charming forum in Anno Domini MMXII+XIV just completely decimated Kant and every subsequent metaphysician ever.
>>25257737>in Hegel, to errors interminable except by mystical resort to allegory.try again>truth finds the medium of its existence in notions or conceptions alone
>>25257757nice quote you are evidently still perplexed bygo apprehend a large number by means of x, I’m sure you won’t find any grounds for disputing the view that that is exactly the same as doing philosophy - that that kind of knowing is absolute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oupD5I_CG-salea jacta estfull send
>>25257860>you are evidently still perplexedjew friend, i've been joking a lot today, but i truly am perplexed. help me out. throw me a bone.
no, i don't think anyone liked that very much
>>25257960well it’s pretty overt to say the least that the figures produced by the understanding, in Hegel, is knowledge of the sort you cannot trust or rely on. all who genuinely seek are entitled to try and learn…what would you like me to speak of?
>>25258643strawberry frosted sprinkle donuts
he would be a gooner
