>Dude I can't believe the Bolsheviks took away our castle, our stable of Arabian ponies, and our 300 serfs! Communism is le evil!
Serfs didn't exist at the time, bruh.
>At age 16, Nabokov inherited the Rozhdestveno estate from his maternal uncle; Nabokov owned it for one year before losing it in the October Revolution.I'd be butthurt too.
Yeah? The idea of a bunch of Jews taking your things to use in the name of the common good is not an idea that sounds good to anyone who is not envious.
>>25256600Might makes right, isn't that what you chuds say?
>>25256600Why is it when landlords are Jews they're evil, but if they aren't Jews then everyone else is evil?
>>25256600Cry more, jewish bitch.
>>25256588Landlords are not evil. Evil is the bourgeoisie and the Jews.
>>25256615Because inheritance is legitimate and essential to any good order. It's another matter that a monetary system has overturned the political order and corrupted the development of natural institutionsIn this case, the communists did nothing more than take what was not theirs, in pursuit of a discourse that only served to justify themselves in power. What justice is there in the fact that the lands that are worked should then be used for the benefit of a nomenklatura that never had any connection with them?
>>25256684Serfs built the estate, unto the serfs it returns.
>>25256690That's the projection of a middle-class individual onto the masses, who have never had much trouble submitting to a system or person. Historically, the serf has never rebelled due to ideological prejudice, but rather due to mismanagement or legitimate injustices (understood within the system of ideas they inhabit).
>>25256708>Historically, the serf has never rebelled due to ideological prejudice> have never had much trouble submitting to a system or personPugachev's Rebellion was explicitly predicated on the abolition of serfdom.
>>25256594the serfs also didn't want to be freed and begged to be allowed to be serfs again.
>>25256600I'm right-wing Nietzschean but the "envy" thing here is just bourgeois crybaby talk. Of course one should expropriate land from the rich
>>25256684You distinction between legitimate and corrupt seems arbitrary> What justice is there in the fact that the lands that are worked should then be used for the benefit of a nomenklatura that never had any connection with them?Instead of investing the surplus wealth in balls and perpetual partying, they used it to industrialize Russia and make it a global super power and become the first state to put a man in space
>>25256716People were simply affected by a lack of justice and followed whoever promised it. But there was no overarching ideological framework to support them.
>>25256752It is legitimate in the sense that it is something that can be traced back to the origin of every major civilization: the perennial desire to leave something for your children; thus essential for the development of society itself.>make it a global super power and become the first state to put a man in spaceUnder that criterion, then, it's not even worth talking about different systems because capitalism can very well achieve the same thing and even surpass it by putting someone on the moon.
>>25256752Other liberal countries industrialized first while still having balls and parties and just being cultural powerhouses in general that everyone wanted to go to. Also, the US put a man on a moon, basically by every metric liberalism mogs. Russia SHOULD be a superpower given it's vast resources and manpower, it's a given and it was already industrializing.
>>25256588I'd be pretty pissed if the bolsheviks did that to me desu.
>>25256799>it's a given and it was already industrializingthe first 1917 revolution was also not communist as well. they deposed the tsar for a democractic system without any schizo bolshevik nonsense.if kerensky wasn't such an incompetent retard then maybe russia wouldn't have turned into a communist shithole
>>25256684>Because inheritance is legitimateWhy should Johnny Jr. receive a billion dollars just because his granddaddy made some clever investments? Johnny Jr didn't do shit for it
>>25256588>Communism is le evil!Is he wrong tho
>>25256735>I'm right-wing Nietzschean
>>25256936Why should you receive penicillin and electricity just because you're born in modern industrial society? Did you help invent or build any of it?
>>25256799They industrialized because of the capitalist class overthrowing the nobilityThey partied but did not spend all of their surplus on it. The capitalist class reinvested their profits to maintain, and then kept adding to expand. The nobility just used all of their income on services and consumerism.The U.S. put a man on the moon only because communism put a man in space. America did it through the state, centralization and socialized coordination, not through liberalism or the market >>25256783Most people have nothing to leave to their children, and that is how the nobility love it. They even sold their own peasants into slavery and forced them off their ancestral homelands in order to pay for the enormous debts of their massive champagne parties>>25256859Russia went Bolshevik because the capitalist faction was backed by England and France and wanted to get Russia back into the war as soon as possible.
>>25256965Nobody who receives them did. What is even your point?
>>25256735>I'm right-wing Nietzscheanno you're not
>>25256979Nietzsche loved Jews and believed all antisemites should be shot. The Bolsheviks did just that
>>25256987Mom I quoted the madness letters again
>>25256990The Will to Power is...le mad!
>old Russia’s idealistic radicals (who, let it be said in passing, were to loathe Bolshevist tyranny as much as liberal aristocrats did).he never moaned about losing the castles. when he got rich he moved to a hotel and read, wrote and hunted butterflies like the rest of his life. communism was a fashionable evil.
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>>25256594they exist now, lol. they might not be serfs legally but they serve the same function. literally surrounded me at my grandmother's funeral paying homage to her
>>25256735Based.
>>25256965I don't own the flow of electrons through a conductive material, nor do I own the chemicals that kill infectious bacteria. Other people can use them as they will. They don't have to pay me specifically to use them and I can't send police after them for using them without my permission. Did you think that this was an intelligent point?>oh yeah well they have to pay someone so >me specifically
>>25256990I love the little convulsions that jew-hating nietzsche lovers have to do to pretend that nietzsche didn't hate people like them, "it's just in the madness letters he was literally insane he didn't really mean it noooooooooo" hilariously retarded cope kek
I cannot conceive of anything more cucked than passionately defending the obscene privileges of the nobility. Of course, I can understand it if you are, yourself, a noble - then that's all right and good, it would be silly not to, even disgustingly masochistic - but just the same, if you are some wage slave serf, to put yourself between the rich man and the insurrectionist... oh.. just give your wife to him already!
>>25256606So true. The soviets dissolved so all their ideas were clearly wrong.
>>25258079They didn't dissolve through might, though
>>25257619Is killing the rich and dog breed associated with the rich part of your plan to repossess land back to the proles?
>>25257619Beauty is good and ugliness is evil. You're evil.
>>25258079The ones who dissolved were different from the ones who won
>>25256588Pretty good argument
>>25256965It helps the economy function properly. Well fed workers with good health are more likely to be productive, higher education means people can innovate and branch out more. No one who actually has a say in thing believes these things out of the kindness of their heart or idealism, they do so because of efficiencyWhen Johnny Jr gets his grandpa's assets and burns them into hookers and anime figures instead of keeping up his family's venture he is a parasite to his ancestors and someone who's not really adding much value to society. Trading stocks and the whole back and forth of pseudo imaginary numbers is likely to generate him more revenue than hiring people for a small business he might open. If the government doesnt tax him "his" money is just going to be a waste of resourcesIt's all about taking care of resources, perhaps someone's land can be way more productive under different hands than being left to rot under someone's hands
>>25257619>oh.. just give your wife to him already!They already have. Pretty soon under hyper capitalism and hypergamy that we have today, all woman would become whores for the rich. While the chudcel will cry incessantly on 4chan about how woman don't give him pussy while also fellating the same rich under banners of libertarianism, liberalism, fascism or whatever this>>25256735 is
>>25258168I would love to be an aristocrat. But I am not one, so why would I simp for them
>>25258168I don't think aristocrats are beautiful people. They popularized both sexes wearing massive wigs and painting their faces with lead to look young. After the decline of their function as knights they were always less physically fit than their peasants and often fat. Frequently especially in Russia they would become lazy shut-ins. You see them through their own lens, it's like seeing Trump only through AI maga images of him
>>25257619The obscenity of the nobility far outweighs the vulgarity of the braying masses
>>25256588You've never owned anything so you probably can't imagine how much it fucking sucks when they just take it away from you.
>>25256588>"Theft is bad">"Erm, source???"
No matter how retarded American conservatism becomes, it will never be as cucked as European conservatism. Fetishizing monarchies and degenerate aristocrats is completely retarded and servile. The concept of legitimate nobility is nonsense, even the ancient Greeks and Romans were more self-aware tban Europeans. Ancients knew that their ancestors likely gained wealth and status by being warlords or pirates, so they dressed up their heritage by claiming they were descendants of a God or Goddess.
>>25256936Why shouldn't Johnny SR II be free to give his money that he earned from his invention to whomever he wants, including Johnny JR?
>>25256936why should illiterate <80 iq cattle get welfare, section 8 and food stamps? They aren't paying taxes or working for it.
>>25258621Somehow I do think the system of constitutional monarchism which developed over hundreds of years and has been shown to work quite well is less retarded than whatever the fuck is happening to right wingers in America right now, but you must be American so you probably like the taste of jewish cum.
>>25258401>>25258425The world would be a better place without you.
>>25256615Shut the fuck up. Peolle are turning against you, soon Tucker Carlsen will be ruler and your lot will be thrown in camps. This time everyone will see you pushed into the chamber, banging on tthe doors many will laugh and jeer, seig heil!
>>25258743People who dont pay taxes shouldnt have the benefits of welfare, section 8, food stamps and they shouldnt even have voting rights. If you are not willing to enter a contract with the government you shouldnt have it's benefits, having paved roads, non poisoned food and working streetlights is already more than enough to claim you're a parasite if you're not a taxpayerI completely agree with this take
>>25256724Least delusional monarchy cuck.
