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Has anyone here studied Serbian epic poetry?
It's probably the last surviving oral bardic tradition among European peoples. It's elegantly regular, with almost all verse being in „deseterac”: unrhymed decasyllables, with a mandatory caesura after the fourth syllable.
And much of it is striking, with depictions of human sacrifice, noble defeat at Kosovo, and later on ethnic cleansing. It even continues up to modern subjects, such as Milosevic and Karadzic.
I recommend it to all those who care for the Homeric. Perhaps it's the only way to grasp what such a form can look like beyond the Homeric era.
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>>25258870
What are Serbians?
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>>25258872
The last heroes, the last bards, the last noble barbarians in Europe.
Even today the Serbian spirit remains as bellicose as that of a bronze age human.
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>>25258870
You caught my attention, OP. Can you tell me where to start or what to start looking into? I love history and bardic culture
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>>25258897
Not that anon but either the tales of Prince Marko or the Mountain Wreath by Petar Petrovic-Njegos
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>>25258883
I remember there was a serb tripfag here who just said retarded shit all the time
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>>25258897
The Kosovo Cycle is the most famous and its poems the most performed. It tells from several angles the story of the Serbs' last stand at Kosovo Field, where both their Tsar and the sultan of the Ottomans were killed. Thereafter, Serbian fell under Ottoman oppression for many centuries.
https://www.rastko.rs/knjizevnost/usmena/battle_of_kosovo.html

Of the pre-Kosovo poems, the best known is probably the Building of Skadar, which is a grisly tale of human sacrifice by immurement. Jacob Grimm called it poetry of the highest order, "one of the most touching of all nations and all times"; Goethe despised it as barbaric, but published the German Translation anyway.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Building_of_Skadar
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>>25258870
barely anything of it is translated, and even when it is the translations suck ass.
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>>25258903
>Petar Petrovic-Njegos
Folklore inspired, but not really folklore. The Kosovo Cycle and other guslari poems, by contrast, are arguably the sole modern successors of Homer.

>>25258924
If you can read any Slavic language, Serbian should be of only moderate difficulty. If you can't, the German translations are systematically much better. If you can read only English, you should get to work.
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>>25258932
I'm Serbian. I'm just saying that because most people here are anglophone and the english translations are terrible.
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>>25258937
Yes. They are all unforgivably bad, even those of Simic, which are still the least terrible.
But many anons here will know German.
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>>25258932
Shit. Then I guess I’m fucked. I started taking German about two years ago and didn’t have enough time or money to keep at it.

t. poorfag
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>>25258937
>>25258975
I don’t even know German. :( I really must get to it. Though, my brother’s gf is a Serb I suppose I should ask her to get me started on it. I just really want to read Petrovic-Njegos but I’m a lazy fuck.
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>>25259008
Technically you don't need money, but I understand how a lack thereof can make everything harder. If you do decide to work on your German, all it really takes these days is a laptop and persistence.

>>25259010
Serbian is not very hard. The grammar is more complicated than that of other Slavic languages, but the pronunciation is much simpler. The problem is a lack of resources.
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So quite literally what other Balkan countries have as well?
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>>25259059
How does training with AI do?
>t. Only learnt rudimentary yugoslavian
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>>25259378
If you're asking, it means you're already okay with some level of cognitive decline. You'll do just fine.
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>>25259504
Thank you
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>>25258872
mihajl "enoch" pejnovic



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