>>25261524
>I always thought reading was good for you but now I'm not so sure
you got the causation backward and the between-sex differences in reading have causes that are totally unrelated to the within-sex differences

>>25261524
i look like this

>>25261524
the literature they consume is largely porn. It's like asking "men watch considerably more 'films' than women but wtf why is their heckin media literacy so low?"

>>25261544
Beat me to the punch.

I was already going to ask about the unbelievable rate of male cinema consumption.

>>25261544
Men don't have lower media literacy though, that's evident by young men turning up more conservative

>>25261524
>basic freedoms
Pseud alert

>>25261524
>issues like birth rates, abortion or basic freedoms are incredibly archaic
what do you mean archaic, women are the most progressive half of the population by far, it's the chuds moids that are struggling right now (in academia, workplace and so on)
I don't see an andew tate or jordan "wash your penis" peterson for women

>>25261539
hot. be my gf.

>>25261524
Most books are stupid. The real question is: is there a market for books for stupid men?

>>25261524
women are retarded

>>25261614
There's nothing progressive about killing your own nation or by having widely accepted opinions. Being a chud in the other hand is extremely progressive and therefore unpopular

>>25261524
>Women consume way more literature
Women mostly read romance novels, celebrity biographies, and shitty new age spiritualism books. Inputting 3x more garbage lit than men isn't going to magically make them wiser.

>>25261653
>Being a chud in the other hand is extremely progressive
Too much of a pussy to just call yourself conservative?

>>25261653
You can't expect to have a coherent conversation with anybody if you just redefine words that everybody else uses differently.

>>25261661
Conservatives don't care about birthrates thoughbeit

>>25261666
Why are you calling me a boomer neocon then?

>>25261653
>There's nothing progressive about killing your own nation
no woman would ever want to carry the seed of some loser, especially now that women can't be coerced into marriage because they are financially indpendent
>Being a chud in the other hand is extremely progressive
ah yes the "gas immigrants, jews and homosexuals and remove women's rights as well but don't you dare to touch multibillionaires" type of progressivism, my favourite

Quite generous to call what they read “literature”

>>25261684
>no woman would ever want to carry the seed of some loser, especially now that women can't be coerced into marriage because they are financially indpendent
And people don't want to work either but they still have to, that's why society has all kinds of incentives that make people do stuff they normally wouldn't want to...

>ah yes the "gas immigrants, jews and homosexuals and remove women's rights as well but don't you dare to touch multibillionaires" type of progressivism, my favourite
Jews are based, they actually solved the fertility problem back in Israel. That said, billionaires are the only ones who are actively trying to fix the western fertility crisis, let them cook.

>>25261699
>And people don't want to work either
they don't want to wageslave, this is different, most people would gladly spend their free time working on things they like, as a hobby
>but they still have to
hopefully not for long, eventually AI will make most jobs obsolete, I doubt I will see it in my lifetime tho

>>25261676
>Conservatives don't care about birthrates thoughbeit
What fucking planet are you living on

>b b but they're not conservative because—
Stop. You are like those people who are dogmatic about minor differences between leftists

>>25261706
>they don't want to wageslave, this is different, most people would gladly spend their free time working on things they like, as a hobby
Lol, working has never been safer, cleaner and more productive than it is now and people still complain. They're just fucking lazy dude, they don't want to work.

>hopefully not for long, eventually AI will make most jobs obsolete, I doubt I will see it in my lifetime tho
I've seen this cope so many times, hoping that a future technology will save you is a sign of a falling system. Soviet union did it, Nazis did it, west is now doing it with AI. You still need people interacting with the physical world even if emails write themselves.

>>25261709
>What fucking planet are you living on
They want to ban abortions and contraceptives on religious grounds.

>Stop. You are like those people who are dogmatic about minor differences between leftists
There's a big difference actually, one is a form of mental illness and another is a form of pragmatism.

>>25261539
Whore.

>>25261524
It's not about how much you read, but what you read.

>>25261653
>killing your own nation
so like trump with his tariff and wars because epstein and israel?
trump is not a woman anon

>>25261738
Tariffs and wars make US strong

>>25261539
Stfu faggot

>>25261729
>Lol, working has never been safer, cleaner and more productive than it is now
And yet work incidents still happen, productivity and happiness (which is a very discussed topic, especially among the youngest population that's supposedly living in the wealthiest safest countries in the world with skyrocketing depression and mental health issues) has been shown to negatively correlate with the increase in amount of working hours and the general attitude in some countries that ranges from "shut up and put yourself by the bootstraps you goy or go die, not my problem, that's what the protestant work ethic says" and "Yamato-kun! You wirr wolk youllserf to death and you wirr rike it! 始め!"
There's always room for improvement, and each and every generation should strive to make working conditions better for our children, which includes making soul-sucking boring unproductive work obsolete and let automas do the work intended for them, not for thinking free individuals that could dedicate that time to themselves and their families
>They're just fucking lazy dude
No they are not, you are not your job, you are not the amount of hours you spend working per week with unpaid vacations and overtime, people just want better living conditions that's all.
Also it's quite the opposite, it has been show that work usually takes all the allocated time (hence why all the anecodtal stories of doing all the work in 2 hours and then pretending to work for the remaining 6, how is that not lazy, it is and it is very inefficient), with better working conditions, as I said, productivity would actually increase instead of dragging work for as long as possible, which also makes it more enjoyable.
>I've seen this cope so many times
This is not a cope, this is a fact. AI/Automation is unstoppable, some jobs will be automated faster than others but the same principle remains.
>hoping that a future technology
It's not a future technology, it's current (or even past, considering it wasn't inventing 5 years ago, the whole field spans as much in time as Computer Science) and we already have it and it's already causing disruption among workers. It's simply reality.

>>25261666
Worked for Michel Foucault and Stanley Fish.

>>25261524
Rude. I consider myself to be quite modern.

>>25261614
To be pro-abortion is not to be progressive, but regressive. This is because for all of human history infanticide was normal until beginning in the 1st century when Christians voiced opposition to abortifacients (grk. "pharmakeia") and abortion (Gal. 5:20, The Didache). From there the progress began in ending the holocaust of babies whether in the womb or out. Christians knew children were already unique souls in the womb, the nativity chapter of St. Luke makes clear the person of Jesus was a person from conception, as well as St. John the Baptist being an individual soul whilst still in the womb.
To be pro baby murder is as archaic as wiping your ass with your hand. Enough shallow thinking.

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>>25261653
This

>>25261738
Look up the etymology of "nation" retard. No one cares about boomer 401ks except boomers. I'm fine with becoming a second world economy if it preserves the bill of rights and our autonomy. We were on that path anyway, china was winning the soft power war from what I can see.

And Trump loves women in the typical boomer male fashion which caused a ton of problems. Look at how terrible Noem and Bondi were.

>>25262161
Women would be more pro life if there were more consequences for men being uncommitted manwhores. All conservatives do is cry out for the woman to be punished while ignoring the man who got her pregnant. The messaging is awful. Force the pump and dump Chad into marriage or jail and he’ll stop whoring around fast. There’s a subset of the modern women population that are very victimized by modern times - they would love nothing more than to marry the man who deflowers them, but outside of abusive religious cults, it’s impossible for her to date and keep a man and wait until marriage to have sex. The culture forces her to put out before marriage and just hope the guy doesn’t dump her
Conversely speaking a lot of men would be more pro choice if there was a law that a man could not be held eligible for child support from pumps and dumps

>>25261729
>They want to ban abortions and contraceptives on religious grounds.
This will increase birthrates if anything. The SINGLE BIGGEST CORRELATE to crashing birthrates is feminism. You are delusional.

>>25262171
No they wouldn't. Feminism took power back in the era where shotgun weddings still happened. You're deriving ideas based on an idealized fantasy of what you are and what you want. This is more delusional than an incel saying "I would lose weight and shower more if women weren't such EVIL CUNTS WITH SAGGY TITS"

Kindly go the fuck back

>>25262180
Your response is very emotional. I suggest you delete it and resubmit a more calmly reasoned attempt at rebutting me.

>>25262171
>The culture forces her
Culture is immaterial, it cannot force people to do anything. This statement is totally incoherent to anyone who believes that women have free will and moral agency.

Your argument is predicated, intentionally or not, on "women are retarded animals incapable of understanding the world or themselves".

>>25262171
>while ignoring the man who got her pregnant.
Completely false, alimony and child support existing (which are you liable for even if you were raped!) are evidence enough.

>>25262187
It's not my job to hold your hand anonette, in fact I don't think I would even if it was. Kindly put your big girl panties on and learn how to internalize ideas that make you feel :(

>>25262190
>>25262191
Yes yes men have problems and pitfalls too, but if you try to have empathy for women, and genuinely want to convince them to be more pro life, you should heed my advice on how to message to women. It takes two people to make an abortion. 99% of women don’t abort if there is a man at her side promising love and commitment for their family. Behind every abortion is a villainous woman but also a villainous man. Ignoring men when trying to solve the problem of abortion means you’ll never solve the problem, you’re kissing half the equation
>>25262196
I’m sorry you’re depressed and angry, but please interrupt our dialogue no further if you are going to be emotionally vomiting everywhere without contributing any worthwhile discourse.

>>25262206
Ah you've chosen the "stick my head in the sand" route of ego preservation. Good luck in life.

>>25262206
I don't wish to genuinely convince anyone of anything, I have no hope for the future of mankind to become more ethical, more moral, or better in any meaningful way.
We are little better than beasts, only occasionally flickering with the light of something higher.

>>25262206
>but if you try to have empathy for women, and genuinely want to convince them to be more pro life,
I don't, I want to repeal the 19th amendment so that you all can't ruin society any further
> you should heed my advice on how to message to women.
I know how to do it, I'm intentionally not because you and the other 3-4 women on here are not my audience.
>It takes two people to make an abortion.
At least, I think there's usually a nurse and doctor involved as well as the murderer. But your insinuation that an unwilling father is just as responsible as an unwilling mother for the abortion is beyond psychopathic: Certainly one's parents are causally responsible for bringing someone into the world but certainly cannot be blamed for the death of their son due to a crazed murderer. Your "argument" here is isomorphic to that: You dishonestly conflate causality with moral responsibility as if you were a strict materialist in the same breath as you demand we treat women the way we'd treat highly-treasured male friends and grant them infinite moral and social grace. That you probably—and genuinely—think this is convincing is further evidence of how worthless your thoughts in general are. Great example of why we should repeal the 19th amendment.
>99% of women don’t abort if there is a man at her side promising love and commitment for their family.
Show me evidence of this immediately. If you do not you are confirming that you're a liar. There's not a lot of (good) statistics on abortion motivations but the studies I've seen all show >90% of women who get abortion citing personal (as in "I just don't want a kid", totally distinct category from rape, trauma, etc.) reasons.
>Behind every abortion is a villainous woman but also a villainous man.
See my second to last comment. If you do not have VERY clear evidence of this you are even more retarded and dishonest than I thought.
>Ignoring men when trying [sic] to solve the problem of abortion means you’ll never solve the problem, you’re kissing [sic] half the equation
Uh no, not at all. You just make it illegal. The strategies we apply to murder in general would easily eliminate almost all abortion. It doesn't matter if a small handful of cases still happen if you've solved the supermajority of them, at that point it becomes an entirely different dynamic and millions of lives were saved. There never will be a total, complete end to abortion (nor do you actually want one, whatever performances you come up with) and arguing for doing nothing to reduce them until we find such an impossible solution is, at BEST, a distraction tactic meant to erode pro-life resources while nothing actually changes.

inb4 you fail to substantiate any of the statistical claims you made and reply with some variation of "hmm.... no....".

In that event I accept your concession.

>>25262261
*I don't want to convince them
I do have empathy for women, I view them as human beings with moral agency. But I also understand that we're all physical creatures and that, for whatever reason, in this life they are saddled with extreme emotional disability that in a man we would call a mental illness. That's why I have such disdain for feminism: Because I understand (as much as a man can) women and how almost all of you "think".

>>25262261
Please write your post again without hysterical, desperate assumptions that I’m a woman (as it made me stop reading), and then I will respond to you.

>>25262291
>hmm.... no....
Called it

>>25262171
>Force the pump and dump Chad into marriage or jail and he’ll stop whoring around fast.
Lol no. Chad is going to fuck multiple bitches

>>25261539
Ywnbaw

>>25261544
Are movies something you can learn to appreciate?

>>25261539
Where can we meet up and maybe cuddle or kiss?

>>25261524
They're illiterate. They read Plato and their only takeaway is "gay pedo sex is good" despite that never being the subject and his rare comments on it say the opposite.

>>25261524
Women don't consume literature; they consume books.

>>25261524
>yet their views on existential issues like birth rates, abortion or basic freedoms are incredibly archaic
what does that even mean you dumbass?

>>25261524
They're reading smut and romance fiction. They're not reading philosophy, history, science, math, etc.
Reading is good for your brain, as it's a muscle, but you eventually have to put wisdom in your brain. Otherwise you might as well just brainrot.

>>25261524
Need some sources for your claims. You have two claims, the second one in three parts, and I also want to discuss the terminology of “archaic”. Furthermore where do you get the idea that reading is good?

>>25261524
Women are not rational and thats a good thing.

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>>25263025
It's fine, they just can't be allowed to make decisions.