>>25262077
>foreign languages
one time I was taking the train home, and across this isle was this neckbeard in a trench coat and across from him and he was talking to these two hot girls. They were already hanging on his every word, but then he started talking russian, and they went crazy. he absolutely could have bagged both of them. hell, maybe he did. good on him.

>>25262077
>reading
>playing instruments
>cooking
>painting
>writing
Now it's scientifically proven: women owe me sex

>>25262092
help me finish my novel and I'll let you do it in the back

>>25262077
these are the hobbies women think women are meant to find attractive thoughbeit.

>>25262095
Yeah no, you fucking whale tranny

>>25262110
it was a joke. why is everyone such a fucking cunt today?

>>25262095
>>25262110
Not that anon. I'll do your novel and finish in the back.

>>25262147
The downside of using an anonymous shitposting website

>>25262077
people virtue signal to polls and surveys, it’s a known thing
same reason women say they don’t like muscles but in real life it’s obvious the average woman does
no woman wants to say she finds a man reading to be unattractive because that would make her look and feel bad to admit it even if it’s true

>>25262147
Kys
>>25262150
Thats a tranny fag

I am glad I grew up in a home were hobbies did not exist and the majority of these things people call hobbies were basic life skills and a part of life.

>>25262158
i like your reasoning but i feel like these days women are so fed up with porn addicts and gamers that a lot of the reading rhetoric is becoming genuine now.

>>25262162
>Thats a tranny fag
All the hotter

>>25262166
that is true but the issue women are basically being asked is “what hobby would it be cool for Chad to have”.
They won’t say weight lifting even if it’s essential to a man being physically attractive in the way they like, because they fear it makes them sound vain and shallow. Saying reading is good though makes them feel nice, intellectual, erudite and sophisticated.
They’re imagining the ingredient to add to a perfect man, not a regular dude having that ingredient

>>25262077
It literally doesn't matter. Being "attractive" to women doesn't matter. I've had women approach me years later to proclaim their undying love or spend great sums of money to be around me, I've had women complain at length about how sexualy unsatisfied they are by their husband while holding my hand and looking me deeply in the eyes, I've had women come and sit with me at 3 in the morning and make vague comments about how "anything can happen", but the moment i reciprocate any advance, let any desire or longing enter my heart, they immediately lose interest.

Women only really want to sleep with men who sleep with lots of women. Thats it. You are either the guy who all women want to sleep with, or you aren't, and being attractive or having cool hobbies or being incredibly interesting or tall or having a big dick or lots of money or anything else is completely meaningless.

They might trick themselves into thinking otherwise, and they will definitely trick you, but that's how it is. Are you currently sleeping with lots of women? No? Then you are unlovable. Its all or nothing with no inbetween.

>>25262077
Because all of my favorite hobbies are either solitary or sausage fests.
>reading
>golf
>gardening
>target shooting
I suppose I could try to kidnap female hikers, but that seems really risky.

>>25262179
ahhh i see what you're getting at, yes, that makes sense

Because I hate the entire human race. Women offer nothing but cruelty and manipulation.

>>25262166
>women are so fed up with porn addicts and gamers
This is mostly an internet phenomenon, particular the gamer thing.

>>25262396
there are thousands of viral videos of women filming their man playing vidya in their non-internet home and getting annoyed at the lack of attention

>>25262264
You can't find a woman to garden with? I thought women loved that crap

>>25262448
>This is mostly an internet phenomenon
>>25262459
They SAY they do but I could barely ever get my ex outside, and she was far more agreeable than most women.

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>>25262473
>physical beings holding plastic controllers 8 hours a day is an internet phenomenon

Not to worry, guys...women have completely overplayed their hand, and are getting desperate. It still doesn't mean it's worth giving them a chance–they're psycho. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmGrMlwRmTs

>>25262476
No, but viral videos are.
>>25262632
Gay

>>25262635
sounds like the internet phenomenon is merely a mirroring of a real phenomenon

>>25262635
>posts less than 2 minutes later
you didn't even watch the video

I read, play the piano, run 27 miles a week, and speak two languages (I'm White) but women are still repulsed by me. I suppose I just have a bad personality.

>>25262670
>I suppose I just have a bad personality.
>whining on 4chan about being incel
nooo it can't be that, it must be the foids' fault

>>25262077
They think this is how they feel, but they don't truly feel this way deep down. They lie to themselves.

>>25262935
>nooo it can't be that, it must be the foids' fault
I said it was my fault. Although it's not like I chose to be born a sperg.

>>25262670
Have you perhaps broken the first two rules?

>>25262632
>gurlz men are checking out of dating at alarming rate to focus on financial prosperity and self improvement and becoming more emotionally stable and mentally healthy in the process
Y-yeah I am totally doing all that ahah.. take that foids

>>25262077
Because they whine alot.
And half of them are trannies.
Its so over.

>>25262632
>>25263007
What she doesn't mention is that I'm butt fucking hot men in the process.

>>25262632
What I find baffling about american culture is they casually say such things as "I made an extra 30K freelancing" and rarely discuss the specifics of it. Do they make it all up?

>>25262077
We already had this thread at least 5 times and we always come to the obvious answer.

>>25263152
>europoor can't fathom making good money instead of having three quarters of his wage being taxed to feed Muslim immigrants
Sad

>>25263209
And yet americans complain about the cost of living all the time. Seems like 90% of the "economy" consists of wash trading.

>>25262632
>men spend an additional $1200 to $1800 a month on their gf expectations
normies are fucking insane

>>25262077
They're lying.

>>25263152
They are either an influencer leech or are lying to sound like someone you should emulate and listen to.

>>25262158
Bro as someone that was both a tall twink and gym rat later in life I can tell you with 100% certainty that the vast majority of women like skinnier tall guys over muscle. I get more male attention now and most women attracted to me tend to be low quality bimbo types.

Not worth it to build muscle for women, just don't be out of shape. If you're gay however or bi then it's worth it to get swole for sure, even if you're a bottom.

This thread is delusional. You are either extremely young and inexperienced with women or just permanently online with no real life social groups you are a part of to ground yourself.

From my personal experience of my friends, acquaintances and colleagues of which about 50% are women they genuinely are attracted to the features on this list. Also nowadays the men tend to have the upper hand at dating as there is a massive gap between educated women with these hobbies and educated men. There are about 5 women with these interests for every man.

Given that this is /lit/ I assume most of you are a bit more educated, well-read and politically grounded compared to the general public. You should have women fighting over you, if you don't, that's a clear sign you're undersocialized and should build out your friend network.

Most of my men buddies are in long term relationships. Most of my women friends keep getting ghosted or eternally looking for someone. The ball is in your court.

Don't even bother typing out incel bullshit I'm too old and experienced in life to believe that crap.

>>25263152
They're all liars who are selling courses on side hustle grind bullshit

How are there still people who don't realize that weightlifting will get you more attention from men than women? If you want a body women will want do swimming or triathlons.

>>25262077
>So, /lit/, if you read, how come YOU still don't have a date??
because I'm an asocial ugly manlet virgin
>inb4 hit the gym bro and be urself

>>25262092
I bet that you’re shit at all of those activities though.

What women say they want, and what they actually respond to are two completely different things.

This is also my primary gripe with the opposite gender.

>>25263234
Said the fox looking longingly at them ripe grapes

Pussy ain't worth it. I speak from experience.

>>25263669
>inb4
Didn't need to. Once you typed manlet everyone understood. It was over before ir even began

>>25262077
Because I'm genuinely enlightened. I have transcended the need for sex, and know on a very fundamental level that a woman's "love" is worth less than dried snail shit.
As long as you long for women, for their "love", for pussy, you'll never be someone of genius. Of worth. If your dick goes upon seeing a bitch, you're a bounded animal and might as well KYS.

There should be a chan for people in relationships or people who are married. It would be exactly like 4chan but would ban any /r9k/-tier posts.

>>25263728
sounds based

>>25263705
sounds gay

>>25262077
>Astronomy
*Astrology*

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>>25262077
I read, learn languages, and I am a blacksmith, but I am still incel due to my small wrists and recessed chin
the world is a cruel and foreboding place my friends.

>>25262158
Gymcel cope. Women prefer normal builds/dad bods over gymbods. Keep wasting your life pushing and pulling metal in the gym though.

Women are genuinely insane. That's what you have to know about them. One of the ways this manifests is in their split personalities, where they genuinely believe and want things they think are morally good -- a sweet, educated, gentle, bookreading man, for example -- while at the same time wanting and believing the exact opposite. They don't notice the contradiction, they don't comment on it, they're utterly oblivious to it. Men conclude that women are 'mysterious' or lying or manipulating, but they're not, they're literally just clinically insane. And if you point out to them that they believe and act in contradictory ways, they see you as weird, creepy, misogynistic, but they never actually confront the issue.

>>25263687
>hurr durr I'm an asshole and I don't know what I'm talking about
I'm pretty good at most of those activities. The real problem is that I'm antisocial and unemployed.

>>25263950
I’m just being a cunt, yes. Maybe you are good at that stuff, but I’m jealous because I can’t play an instrument so you should eat a dick.

>>25263728
>>25263903
Incel detected

>>25263918
Kind of true. Their minds are less coherent and more porous than ours imo. When they say retarded shit like "society forced me to..." they really believe it. They're slaves to social pressure far more than we are to testosterone.

>>25262077
I love fictional women more than real ones.

>>25263728
I genuinely need this in my life. It's ridiculous to read these incel manifestos when you have a wife and kids and never any issues getting laid at all. I mean I'm pretty sure it's all convincing to people with no life experience "blind leading the blind and all that" but it's just absolutely ridiculous to read this bullshit when you know how it really is.

It's like a forum of blind people discussing "colors" as these magical evil fibrations and when you can actually see you realize how ridiculous this shit is. It's the most pathetic thing about this website for sure. Worst is they could literally just go outside and actually eperiment and find out themselves how much those incel arguments are bullshit. But instead of doing any of that they just convince themselves it's all real so they don't have to put in any effort and expose themselves to potential rejection and emotional damage, bunch of emotional softies.

The lack of self-awareness or at the very least good faith recognition that their statements are ridiculous is also very annoying amongst these types. Even the conspiracy schizos have some sort of humor and tongue-in-cheek recognition that their shit is insane. Incels though? They try to straight face their bullshit as if it's obvious and self-evident. Bunch of pricks if you ask me.

>>25263575
you're absolutely correct and this is a good post except for this
>Given that this is /lit/ I assume most of you are a bit more educated, well-read and politically grounded compared to the general public
which is utterly delusional kek

>>25263989
It's 4chan, and we have to take the site as it is, but the incessant woman hate threads on /lit/ are just tiresome. Day after day after day after day

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>>25263989
>>25263728
it's called reddit, and it's full of retarded normalfaggots like yourselves. contrarianism comes hand in hand with being non-normal and socially retarded. contrarian communities where people are devoid of the joys of life are ripe ground to produce fruits of cultural value. among faggots like yourselves, there is nothing of value. you came here to reap the benefits of a culture created by edgy autistic retards, and you somehow find the time to whine that the people who are creating it are shut-in and weird. unironically and permanently fuck off. you do not belong here.

>>25263989
The biggest issue with incel and red pill posts is how boring they are. The threads are so unbelievably repetitive and boring. There's no sense of fun or creativity, which is why 4chan hasn't been able to create any interesting memes for a decade now. Its just Pepe and Wojak shit. I think the Pretty Princess bedroom meme was the last really funny and absurd thing to come out of this website.

Lot of thin skinned people here, incels and non-incels alike.
Yeah, the incels should put a fucking lid on it for once but they can’t help themselves
And you faggots complaining so much about it should just go to reddit as the above guy said if you don’t like it so much. 4chan is notorious for being a site full of kissless virgins no matter the board.

>>25264012
It's not the complaints about women that are the issue. It's the inability to face the truth when confronted with it, the lack of good faith discussion and inability to speak about anything else besides women that is the annoying part. I'm a fucking 4chan user, I don't care about contrarianism or edginess. I just don't care for the fucking woman hate threads I've been seeing daily for about 12 years now (2014 was when 4chan officially flipped from weirdo simps to weirdo haters)

Why the fuck are you guys so obsessed with this shit. The same holds true for transgenders or Indians. I don't hear or see any of them ever in real life yet I'm bombarded over and over again with this shit on 4chan to the point I'm fatigued and hating on the haters. If 4chan didn't exist I probably wouldn't even know what transgenders are or what dalit and bramin are.

You need to recognize that you detract more value from the website than you contribute.

>>25264012
/r9k/ has nothing to do with the "autistic edgy retards" that kept 4chan going for so long. They're failed normies, they have normie passions and desires. They desperately want to be a chad, but failed, so they either wallow in bitterness and spite or pay grifters like Roosh, Tate, or Clavicular for lessons on how to have sex with more girls.h

>>25264012
this, this and this

I unironically do read as a hobby, drink matcha (as well as espresso, I like both) and generally eat a plant-based diet and have tried learning other languages like Spanish and Italian but I get too scared of sharing that IRL because I people I talk to tend to stereotype me over that. So I’ll probably be forever alone. Lol

I’ve also been practicing drawing, looking into lessons but I’m bad at it so I’ll never share that

>>25264033
>>25264025
>wahhh why don't the societal failures conform to my opinions of what a failure should be like

>Erm.... teh wimminz like-
I don't care. Quit posting this inane dating data bullshit on /lit/. Either embrace your lack of pussy or work on yourself and go chase it. We don't need these lame, faggot-assed threads about women every single goddamned day.

>>25264012
>um its ackshually heckin BASED that I won't shut up about how wimminz b tards n sheit
>and um sweatie its ackshually heckin REDDIT that you think im strange and off-putting

>>25263850
>am a blacksmith
>wristcel
how?

>>25263705
You may be right. But that dosen't make you any less gay.

B-but how do I meet new people to show them my hobbies

>>25264012
True.

>>25264012
Holy fpbp

>>25264025
Double digit IQ.

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I find that when I bring up the topic of reading with anyone, male or female (but especially male) I am met with an uncomfortable, awkward silence or stare before there is an abrupt change in subject. It is as if the men I am surrounded with think that the act of reading is a foreign, alien concept.

I cannot help but feel that there is some silent judgement occurring when this happens - a presumption that I am being pretentious or performative, simply because I mentioned the subject of books. If instead, I brought up sports, and pretended to care about what team was winning or losing, would that be perceived as more authentic? Even though ironically, that in of itself would be theatrical, while me bringing up the topic of reading is actual sincere?

>>25264657
it's called intellectual inferiority complex, and most fans of anime, vidya and sports live with it on a daily basis

>>25263575
>Given that this is /lit/ I assume most of you are a bit more educated, well-read and politically grounded compared to the general public
Kek, completely wrong.

>>25264489
He's wrong and gay

>>25264419
I was born with small wrists
Also you dont need to be strong to smith

>>25264276
This but unironically
If you’re in a stable relationship you’re a normalfag and DON’T belong here

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>>25263234
in a marriage society, the money goes to the kids. in a gf society, the money goes to the bitches and their dogs

>>25262147
>today
Imagine thinking the internet is for shits and giggles in the big 26
The fun internet ended at exactly 2016

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>>25262077
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I have tried reading this stuff at internet cafes and cannot keep the girls away they just instantly come over to my table and look at the computer screen.....

>>25263989
>>25264025
Have you considered you are simply a normalfag, and do not and will never understand the experiences and perspectives of dysfunctional spergs.

>>25264025
>doesn't see trans people or south asians in real life
what the hell kind of sheltered ass suburb do u live? are u a retired boomer?

>>25264012
TRVKE

>>25262077
It's not going to make your ugly ass become attractive, even if you were a professional of all 15.

>>25263989
>I've put my dick in a vag, so I know how it really is.
You know shit. I've had lots of sex, the incels do make a lot of good points. They're not all correct, but they're not all wrong either.

>>25263669
Can cofirm, i read as well. But im a manlet and girls always reject me and they honestly state the reason. It’s over

>>25263575
>Most of my women friends keep getting ghosted or eternally looking for someone.
This is the actual problem and the conclusion is the opposite of what you think. They are getting ghosted or pumped and dumped by Chad, because the won't settle for a stable and non Chad.

>>25262077
What women say, what women mean, and what women do never intersect with reality.

>>25263950
>The real problem is that I'm antisocial and unemployed.
Unemployed isn't always a problem. Proportionally, I attract more women of the type I prefer when I'm unemployed than when I have a job.

>>25264657
i always thought the popularity of juden peterstein would have led to more men reading. i thought showing off a couple russian novels was an important part of every young man's larping journey toward adulthood or something

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>>25262077
It doesn't matter what women think.

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>>25262077
I do
>Reading
>Drawing
>Playing an instrument
And I have never had a gf at 28

>25266251
>I can't breed

>>25262077
Women who are into reading are like otaku or gamers in the 2010s who desperately want the opposite sex to be into the same nerd hobby they are but their idea of that is you reading Sarah J. Maas with them not "starting with the Greeks" or reading tomes about Byzantine land grants.

>>25265904
No, these are the things that they like in attractive men. These aren't the things that you can do, to make yourself be more attractive.
That's the key point. This is how they sort hobbies of attractive men.

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What happened to the thread with books about colonialism?

>>25262077
Which are the least attractive? Gaming? Warhammer?

>>25268246
4chan

>>25264657
The "reading is for faggots" meme is a real way of thinking out there, bruh.

>>25263575
What a retarded take considering that the extremely young are the only ones who'll have a steady inflow of new single people. You'll realize this at some point :^)

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>>25268346
Not really how surveys work.