"Punctuation" editionPrevious: >>25253245/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Discuss the written works below for practice; contribute, and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Violent shills, relentless shill-spammers, and grounds keeping prose, should be ignored and reported.>Beginner guides on writing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPnobbck9shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKcbvioxFk>Intermediate guides on writing:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48654.Storyhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3097766-borges-on-writinghttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23056.Image_Music_Text>Advanced guide on writing:Just do it.Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oCcXnquUXA&list=RD0oCcXnquUXA
>been hearing for years that Sanderson's writing sucks>finally check out Mistborn>despite a few indulgences it is clearly superior to mineI don't even know what to think.
Introduction, by Garlic FettucinniThe First Chapter'The First Chapter' is the infamously establishing chapter that begins the novel in an introductory tone warning of the beginning of the book. It is a stunning overture to a scenario laid out by the paragraphs to come, and since the time the book was published, the people who have bought it read this infamous chapter to begin the book. New York Times reports 'this new book begins with an introductory chapter written by the author', introducing the work on the day it was published for sale. Novel is actually a collection of many chapters, each employing a unique perspective compartmentalized into individual themes sectioned out according to chapter, yet with a mesmerizing quality wherein the chapters reference the other chapters in what resembles a story flow. 'I wrote the chapters so the readers could read ideas I put in them', I recall the author saying, sitting in his chair, the weather outside weathering. It was on the cold autumn of 1979 at the dorms at 114th St West Riverside in the autumn cold of the 1979 University of Columbia Riverside cold St Autumns that my contemporary, who seemed at the time a wayward revolutionary (the type of which I'm sure the author had in mind when authoring his famous first chapter 'First Chapter', at his mahogany desk writing the famous first lines 'First chapter' which begins our first chapter...
>>25262424Is there more of this or does it not exist yet
>>25262451I can keep going if you like, I just wrote it. Give me a second, and maybe a few notes about what's fun. You know, not to guide me, but to reaffirm me because I have a problem writing well when I feel like no one thinks its funny cool or smart
>>25262424>by Garlic Fettucinniwhat an odd moniker
>>25262378Unburden your hearts, anons.>what has surprised you most since you began writing in earnest?>what do you hate most about writing?>what's one thing that you would you tell your younger self about writing, if you could?I'll start:>That it absolutely gets easier with time and practice - anecdotally I write much better (and enjoy it more) as a geezer than I ever did as a young guy>I hate the fucking time management of it all...it's so frustrating how diligent and disciplined I have to be to carve out enough time to make real progress.>It's hackneyed, but "write often and write consistently"
>>25262464It hits the same niche as an SCP entry and again as seeing a reaction video hyping up something you already like.SCP entries are fun to read because of their directness in discussing the topic in a way that assumes (in-universe) you're already familiar with it, but since you're not (irl), they're paced in a very deliberate way which only teases major details and you're left piecing together the rest of the picture yourself. Fun mystery.Yours specifically is different in that it's praising something instead of talking about some deathly scp abomination. It's optimistic. Feels like watching a cool highlight reel, or a guy talking about why X person is the best to ever do it. It appeals to the same sense that makes me watch those redbull stunts, or want to read acclaimed classics, an admiration for the pinnacle of human achievement in whatever field.
>>25262496>surprised you mostI see occasional flashes of brilliance, I have old sections which I reread to show myself what I'm capable of, helps keep me going when I'm editing parts that aren't good.>hate mostMy biggest fear is that my writing reads like a pessimists. China Mieville is like an anti-rolemodel to me, his stuff reeks of misanthropy. I hate that when I try to avoid this, my writing comes out snarky and detatched. It ends up feeling dishonest, as though I'm not writing in earnest. >tell your younger selfWrite more lol
>>25262378Does warhammer black library use AI?
>>25262503That's an interesting insight and I am actively heeding it but I will tell you this was a clownish parody of unimportant introductions written by editors of other peoples' booksYour thrilled response to what I would consider *bullshit authority language* opens up new avenues for me. Thanks
>need to write one more boring scene>then finally some action
>what has surprised you most since you began writing in earnest?That I can fucking write anything. I can write up a fake military missive, I can write a fake book report, I can write a fake book. I can play any character reacting to any bullshit any way I want and none of that character bullshit or book even needs to exist. Hell I'm writing right now.>what do you hate most about writing?Wasting of time. Business about business about business. How about you shut up?>what's one thing that you would you tell your younger self about writing, if you could?I didn't want to interrupt you but now that you're here I just want to say you're right all of this writing you have encountered so far is shit, but if I tell what to read then it won't be yours but me being me I already know and trust you to find what you need as you find it. Anything less is an order we know we both know accepting will disrupt the mission. Also your mom's a manic retard who hops on productive pills and weed the second her and dad empty nest. Probably buy gold now and Costco stock whatever it is sell half whenever you double. PEACE :D
>>25262496>surprisedHow hard it can be to articulate something properly. I write something then realize that's not how i wanted to say it.>hateHow disgusted i am by my writing. It feels dogshit and it's pure suffering to pour time and effort only to look at the result and not like it. I feel like a fraud, whether i am or not.>younger selfJust start it, just start writing things.
>>25262503I cannot advise to you the novel 'Nova Express' enough
>>25262378>Let's eat grandma.Edamus aviam.>Let's eat, grandma.Edamus avia.Learn a better language.
>>25262503Wait a fucking minute and humor my third response here, is the SCP community full of people primed to experience even the most remote of supernatural writing? I was literally just making fun of wasteful book introductions and you seem to indicate an extreme thrill at the idea of an SCP 'book that confounds and repels the reader' reported by a confounded reporter?
>>25262528Lol yeah I thought that'd be the case when I saw Garlic Fettucinni. Say what you want about parody works, but there's something to be said about taking a genre--one you're familiar enough with to do a fundamentally sound job of writing--and dialing up the tropes to absurd levels which makes it an interesting read. Just look at one punch man.
>>25262555Thanks anon, I'll check it out>>25262563That's probably already an SCP lol. Check out There Is No Antimemetics Division or similar entries. I haven't read many SCP entries, only the most popular ones, but there's a bunch that aren't monsters, just random artifacts, either ancient or haunted, which don't pose a threat. SCP-1733 is a cool one, I think a guy on /x/ wrote it. Check out the attached as well, written by someone here, I found it in an old thread of /lit/ works.
>>25262601I like this a lot.
>>25262496>how it truly hard it is to tell a coherent and interesting story>how I can't seem to pick the right word or turn of phrase>start reading now
>>25262559Yeah, that'll let me converse with all the native Latin speakers. Like the Catholic priest who you're afraid to be left alone with.
I thought of a solution for my problem. Like Gene Wolfe I'm gonna play fast and loose with descriptions and just describe it by weird comparisons. You wanna know what this weird underground building looks? It's like a dick springing from the ground. You're welcome, dear reader.
Here's another piece for the new thread. I hope you enjoy, but let me know if you don't.
do you plan out muh themes beforehand or let them naturally emerge from the story?
>>25262651I liked the use of free indirect style. Any tips to use it better?
A large blue alien strikes twilight cobalt from some unknown and heretofore strange place, global and geodesic in its crystalline yet fleshy structure. 'What the fuck!?' said no one, you reading on looking like an IDIOT. Morass of Mandrill Tendrills amass like all the fuck over. Danker Jungle shit darker than them likes of which Tarzan ain't never fuckin seen.
2 hours later, 375 words.
>>25262641Wolfe was obscure, not arbitrary. I think he was very specific with how he described things.
Yes, I'm done now. I was never going to become the next Faulkner, the next Nabokov or the next Joyce, but I hid behind the language barrier to avoid criticism for months, maintaining an illusion that was fun to live in while it lasted. I had thought my country's education system was topmost in the world, but this turned out to be utter bollocks. A child of 18, a person ten years my junior, has a greater vocabulary than I, who had to look up the word “topiary”, and no one likes the expression theory of art anymore, I am likened to a long lost dinosaur.This will be my final post on /lit/. I've been humiliated and exposed as a fraud. My writing is pretentious, infantile, banal drivel. My observations are dull, my language grade school level. My tenses are mixed up; I use colloquialisms, ellipses and onomatopoeia. I mix tired and trite idioms together to obfuscate their unoriginality with a veneer of irony; I have continued to recite ornate Jewish chimpanzee parables with diminishing returns. The parable seemed very clearly to me to be asking me whether or not the now-grown-adult can choose. I say yes, of course, but that's not my issue.I was never cut out for writing. I began writing my "book" on January 6th. Since then I've produced 82 thousand words for it. These words are a tide of garbage without value, without insight, without form. The themes of time, space, infinity, memory and pointless duelling are not present in my work. It was never real writing, it was anime and weebshit. Look how many words I wrote, because apparently literature is bodybuilding and just aimlessly typing will somehow improve my writing. I don't even know what genre it is that I'm writing. Is it autofiction? A comedy? A picaresque?Regardless, I have failed. I have put down my pen. Never again will my fingers click-clack across the keyboard. No more outlines, no more characters. Goodbye
>>25262843Who cares? Just have fun.
It annoys me that even professional writers can't distinguish between nonessential and essential appositives and use commas when there should be none. For example:>Mikhail Lermontov finished writing his novel, A Hero of Our Time, at roughly the same age that I was working in a Blockbuster video store and annually flunking a remedial math course in college.This is extremely common among people who have English as first language. Nobody makes this mistake in Swedish even though we have the exact same rule.
Still plugging away at my story about a government agency for mind readers. I have the main plot and like 2/3 of the scenes planned out. Now to write the important scenes and try to fit it together.
>>25262496>what surprised meHow writing isn’t actually fun and is more akin to torture, but you feel compelled to do it anyway.>what do you hate most about writingMarketing and shilling the work once the whole thing is said and done. Writing a book is one thing, but going through the expensive and time consuming process to get it seen is another.>advice to my younger selfThe only way that you will actually finish a project is if you believe in it so strongly that you’re willing to force it into existence regardless of any struggle. If you’re not truly in love with a project, you’ll eventually hit a wall that makes you want to drop the project because you don’t really believe in it with all your heart.
nearly four narf thou'nd words 'sweek so far not fucken bad aye
>>25263081right propa dat is
Do you ever worry that having characters express ideas you disagree with will make the reader think you’re endorsing those ideas?
how do you get better at writing i feel terrible and retarded i hope i die
>>25263377at which part of the process are you bad at?
>>25263377same
>>25263393coming up with interesting character goals and motivations>>25263397it's ok brother
>>25263377You don’t get better. You’re either talented or you’re not.
>>25263498Dogshit take. Talent may determine whether you're ever able to be Tolstoy but almost anyone can get good enough to craft a solid story.>>25263412Do me a favor anon and explain your approach to making characters. That will help us see where your pitfalls are. I'm betting your process needs work.
>>252624961) How it constantly fluctuates between addictively easy and painfully impossible, no inbetween2) To second guess everything you write because you're unsure if there's a better way to tell something or not3) "Fuck science, you may like it now as a young know-it-all but your trve sovl belongs in arts. Take music classes and writing classes, nothing else matters."
>There's only one (1) named character in my novel and it's not the protagonistkino?
>>25263553No. Not because of the idea, but because I have my doubts you'd be able to pull it off.
>>25263377You read a lot, read more, read plenty.
>>25263622I'm one of the only few who can pull this off, this is the only novel idea in years that I've managed to outline in full. If I had to write one single story in my life, that would be it.
I have fucking OCD and can't write a fucking thing. Trying to write a story now and I'll write 200 words and decide it's unsavable and delete it and start again. I'll do random planning and drafts and decide that even they are shit and tear them up. I expect to do get everything perfect first time or what's the point and it frustrates me so fucking much.
>>25263919Fuck off whiner and post an excerpt. You want someone to hack you off, go to reddit
>>25263512>almost anyone can get good enough to craft a solid storyThis thread is glating evidence that they can't
>>25263929thanks anon, I recognise all this, but I never let myself do it. Back in the day I appeared in a few of the /lit/ publications with short stories but since then I can't do a thing because I simply can't let myself. I hope someday I'll stop being a fucking autist>>25263933>Post an excerpt so I can call it shit and never post my own stuffFuck off nigger
>>25263985I post my shit all the time faggot
>>25263919I read other authors' works and want to kill myself.
Free copy of The Dark Triad here: https://jumpshare.com/share/FWBthjadCmfSxB5xbgLxFirst month since release has gone pretty well. Enjoy, anons.Print and audiobook available here: https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Triad-Nicholas-John-Boor-ebook/dp/B0GTPBDGLWAlmost done with the rough draft of my second book, on schedule for release August 1st.White Boy Summer has officially begun.
>hit a snag and have issues continuing>decide to read some books to try and reflect a bit>Makes me want to drop writing because i know im not doing good but i never expected it to be this bad.I know, rewrites, help and experience. But holy shit is it disheartening. I feel like im never gonna achieve anything.
>>25264076Then you read some dogshit like Normal People or Dungeon Crawler Carl and wonder how the fuck couldn't you make it.
>>25264094I do not want to look at lesser works, perceived or real, and take heart from this.It doesnt do anything for me but reassure me that there might be more mediocre than me.Given, doomposting and feeling like a retard isnt helping either, but at least i get to wonder and hope i can learn something. Whether it happens or not is another matter, and the source of my despair.I tried to look into writing clubs and whatnot but it's all businesses and paid classes. No peer interaction or helpful mentorship. It might come off as naive, but i wished for some people to interact with without money being the reason.I'm also a bit too paranoid to share my writings outside of friends, which they don't read anyways.
>>25263979Glating evidence indeed, retard-kun
>>25264125>omg is that a typo? Heh, you're MENTALLY RETARDED now and I'm super smart because I've NEVER done that
>>25264122>hope i can learn somethingnobody is going to sit you down and step you through it. the process of reading and writing and imitating your heroes until you develop your own style is a singular personal one. if you're having this miserable of a time with it, writing might not be for you. be honest with yourself about your talent and potential and whether the time investment is worth it. why spend life doing something that doesn't come natural and makes you feel like shit?
>>25264141I tend to be more focused on results than the process, something that has fucked me over many times and pushed me into not doing things because i'm afraid of failing, hence not attempting is the best.I have stories i want to tell. Writing is the side effect, and a wall between where i am now and what i want to do.It's a very childish way of living that i havent been able to overcome. "I want it now, and if i can't then it's useless to me"it's not that i don't like writing, it's that i don't want what i do to be meaningless. Which it is if i cant go anywhere (if only towards a finished, readable story).I am guilty of trying to find ways of "becoming better" or improving, which sounds really stupid when you write it down. Im stuck in a perpetual "improving takes time, but i don't feel like i have time.", trying to catch a metaphorical thread i can follow .It's all very chaotic in my mind, probably to read too, and i'm essentially throwing myself at a wall until it either break or i do, whichever comes first.My self-esteem and overall reaction to failure is not the best but you might have gathered that.
>>25264047This is really good. Very economical and efficient. Every sentence flows so well and it's written to be incredibly accessible without fancy words or phrases. I am in awe at your literary prowess. I tip my hat to you good sir. God damn I wish I could write as well as you.
>>25264178If only you knew anon. I've been ruminating for the last 20 minutes on whether or not it's performative if I go to the park tomorrow when it's warm to read my book and whether or not I'll actually enjoy it even though I obviously want to. I'll regret leaving the house on the weekend and I'll regret not leaving it. It's a cunt of a way to live.
>>25264174Thanks, anon. I think of it like a pulp novel on steroids, definitely aiming for accessibility and "mass appeal" (or whatever the equivalent would be for a story this fucked up).
>>25264141Also to add to that, i do have somewhat of a desire to write. It appears at times, kind of a need to do it. But the thoughts from my brain and the writing part results are very, very different, and it bites. I feel punished for doing something i want but not managing to do it properly.
>>25264076I've writing outlines for years and never really started because I'm terrified of being bad, which I know I will be inevitable at least at the start. I keep watching writing classes and looking up reddit cope threads "is x age too late to start writing?".
>>25264227That's what im trying to break through. It works until i hit a wall and overthink for several days.I keep writing as much as i can, but this block rn is very frustrating and im not sure how to get around it.That's why i picked up a book, for inspiration, and got depressed like a retard. I JUST need to keep going.
>>25264047If this isn't about the Nigerian mafia in Hong Kong I'm going to be disappointed
>>25264227>>25264231I think at some point we just need to allow ourselves to suck. Finish something, look at it and say, "This shit is awful." Then take a break and come back to fix it.
>>25264258That's what im trying, it's just the moment i stop, i enter a hell of my own making.Im really trying to make a "skeleton" that i can fill with "meat" later on, but im stuck on an articulation and it fucks with me. I don't know how much i need to scrap or what angle to take.
I'm curious about the flashlight method mentioned last thread. What's been your experience with it?
>>25262451A Word or Two Before You Go by Barzun.Or his Simple and Direct: A Rhetoric for WritersOr his On Writing, Editing, and Publishing (most like that)
>>25264270Checkout The Story Grid. Maybe it will help you.>>25264273Terrible. I end up with boring shit. I think it works if you've wrote so much and got so much feedback that you grew an instinct for storytelling. Like Stephen King. Something like: you got your protagonist in a forest after getting his mushroom-based superpower, and you know he can't just leave that forest; he has to get lost, then he has to go through a bear cave or something to get out of the forest.
nobody told me that draft 2 involved literally rewriting the entire thing
lol this movie made $270mhope i can write this well some day
>>25264400they do this so that sex scenes are easy to edit around of TV and airplanes
>>25264400there's a reason screenwriting is the author's last resort
>>25264422>>25264431The funny thing is that's basically how it was in the movie ("Weapons") too. It cuts to them fucking in bed for like 3 seconds, then cut to the next scene. There was no nudity or anything.
>>25264376This is what I fear the most.
I wonder if GRRM finished the prologue of GoT and also thought "This is stupid as shit"
>>25264561If not, he should have.
>>25264561I was listening to an interview of his the other day—he said the first chapter flowed out of him so naturally. What we see as the prologue was written later, so he likely had it more figured out by then.
Man, getting useful critique is like pulling teeth from a cat. Showing my work elicits such wildly different and contradictory advice. I've noticed that it is split among the lines of who isn't or is a writer themselves. The feedback I get from writers is that my style and prose are fine and dandy, but the story is a little boring. Non-writers tell me the opposite, that while it was an exciting and gripping story, they had issues with my prose and phrasing. Who should I be paying attention to?
>>25264663You're probably fine then.>writers: understand your prose is fine, but writers are rarely in the mood to read what will not help their craft>readers: they like the story but don't want to sound unhelpful, so will say inane shit about things they don't understand
>>25264661No way he had thought of all that exposition he lays on the first chapter, disguised as Bran's musings.
>>25264663always readers because they're your consumers. Writers are your competition. Readers are your buyers
I keep realizing more and more things I fucked up with my novel because I didn't know what I was trying to say with it or where it was going.It's so bad now that I think I need to write the entire doorstopper over from scratch (or more realistically, give up)
what do you think of the prose of this WIP?
>>25264802a kid saying "lucky you but I don't fancy your chances" is a little unrealistic to me. The prose is fine however.
>>25264826yeah that's a good point. I've been struggling with how a kid would speak.
>>25264802>He was a rat-faced kid with a small overbite and two incisors each pointing to a different constellationThe constellation line is clever and I like it, but something about the sentence is confusing. 'Overbite' draws attention to the top row of teeth, then you talk about incisors pointing towards the sky. Very minor gripe, but it was a stumbling block. Otherwise prose is nice and tight.
>>25264914cheers I missed that. ill edit the line
>>25264227actually sat down for the first time and wrote the beginning of a story. Timed 1 hour was thinking about the overarching plot for most of it. Actually only wrote 200 words, and it's sappy and gay.IT'S OVER
>>25265022We should just all share our shitty starts and tell each other how much it sucks, THEN KEEP GOING.
>>25265079>We should just all share our shitty startsNo.>THEN KEEP GOING.Absolutely not. Virtually all of you need to give up.
>>25265093lol ok doomer
>>25265101Is that what moithbreathers are calling being honest and realistic these days?
>>25265109What's honest and realistic about telling people to give up without trying? No one will ever write anything good if they don't write at all. And trying means writing many things and refining them over time. If someone's first written work sucks they aren't done, they're just getting started. Virtually every artist of any type produced a mountain of awful embarrassing garbage before they made anything good.
>>25265113First of all, you've already tried and you've already failed. But to answer your nonsense question, telling people to give up without trying would be honest and realistic because the vast majority of books attempted will never be finished; of the ones that are, the vast majority will never be published: and of the ones that are, the vast majority won't be sold or read. That is to say, telling people to give up is honest and realistic because in all likelihood, you're going to fail. "Not me, I'm different, I'll break through." No, you're not and no, you won't. The people that post in this thread for validation will never write anything good, period. Your first written work will suck and so will every one that follows. No amount of writing of refining is going to change that. You are not artists.
>>25265128Crab, meet bucket.
>>25265131No. I'm not in your sad validation bucket. I try to pluck you out for your own good as much as everyone else's and you hold on for dear life with pathetic non-arguments like this.
>>25265150I'm going to keep writing and there is NOTHING you can do about it.
>>25264802I'll echo >>25264826 that doesn't sound like a kid at all. Also>the kid raised an eyebrowthis feels a little out of place as its own paragraph and it doesn't flow that well into the next sentence.Other than that, I liked it.
Which title seems to work? I like the poetic style of the first title, but the other two tell you who and what the story is about. I do like the fire, but not sure about the cross.
>>25265172First one is your best bet. Presumably new readers aren't going to grasp the significance of the latter two.
>>25265155Naturally. You come here hoping people will affirm your internal delusions and make you feel good about yourself. When confronted with anything that isn't what you want to hear, no matter how truthful, you will clam up. That's how these "creative" generals have always worked. In reality, the opinions of others seeking the same affirmation mean less than nothing. They can't be honest with themselves much less anyone else. I may not save you from yourself, and that's fine, you're not the only one in this sad bucket. But years down the road when you reach the same conclusion that you will never suceede, remember that I did try.
>>25265172this flame effect looks so much worse
>>25265195that's funny. My roommate told me without the flames it looks like a Penguin Classics book and too plain.
>>25265184dude take the l, no one is falling for your demotivational bait
>>25265184Post writing nigger
Somehow he ended up in another room.
>>25265172Drop the The's. Just First of Rus. It's more intriguing.
>>25265199There is absolutely nothing wrong with looking like a Penguin classics book.
>>25265205You have no idea what other people think. That you feel the need to address it and reframe it as "demotivational bait" betrays your insecurity that it could be effective. >>25265206I will never post my writing here. If you had any sense, you wouldn't either. This general has nothing that's actually and not specifically positive to offer.
>>25265220superficially positive*
>>25265220You can post something you whip up in 10 minutes
>>25265254That's right, I can. But "can" is not "should" or "will".
>>25265172The first one is the only one that doesn't look like gibberish, so that's my vote, but if you're not settled yet, I recommend letting your mind percolate a little longer on more title options. >>25265199The flames don't do anything for me; leave them or keep them. Either way, the cover's not bad, but also not good
>>25265218Except nobody wants a penguin classic for a book released in 2026. Even his covers look shitty. Nobody wants a face. People want minimalist cozy covers or fantasy stuff
>>25265264Look how bright and colorful the covers today are
>>25265264I like the face. It makes it stand out from the minimalist cozy covers. It's the flames that are tacky.To that anon, here's what I would do. I would ditch the flames first and foremost. Then I'd turn that white ripped portion into a small, sharp rectangular box with the title in a more uniform and clean font at its center.It doesn't have to be minimalist like the other anon said, but the text absolutely should be. Something gothic, but uniform so that no letter is longer than the other.The author name should be in a blood red box with white text that is also somewhat uniform. That little splash of red, combined with the face, will catch the eye.
>>25265267I don't think anyone should aspire to mimic any of these covers, honestly. I don't think there's a single good cover there.
>>25265267is that a gay and a straight pilot-plane waitress romance? women will really coom to anything
>>25265128this guy describes himself as "a creative" like it's a D&D class lmao
>>25265282I didn't describe myself, I described this general and others like it. It's amazing but not at all surprising that you aspire to be a writer when you can't even read.
How does this read for a first draft?
>25265527This faggot has been spamming /sffg/ for the last week, don't help.
uh oh, melty!
>>25265571The only help for /wg/ posters is discouragement.
>>25265579Eh, I'm 8000 words deep in this one so I'm thinking I'm just gonna keep going :D
>>25265585That's fine. Only exceptional people don't need to learn the hard way, and there's certainly no reason for anyone to think that you're exceptional.
>>25265597herels the problem with your theory Nonny, I'm already a succesfull artist :omy music has millions of plays across youtube, spotify and the liked, art's already my lifeshame cuz your bait could've worked on almost everybody... just not me PFFFT HAHAHAAHAHAHA XDDD
>>25265600Wow, that's so crazy, because I'm a multi-award winning platinum recording artist myself. Post your creator dashboard with a handwritten timestamp and I'll show you my Grammys?.
>gets put in its place, further melty ensueswondered which one you'd have to go with, the "music has nothing to do with writing" route or the "doxx yourself" route, so predictable XDI don't owe you shit, Nonny, I'm not the one with a damaged ego here x')but good try nonetheless, imma go write a bit before lunch with renewed determination knowing this is exactly what you don't want
>>25265642>I'm not the one with a damaged egoThat's funny, then why are you being so defensive?
>>25265600>I'm popular, therefore I'm exceptionallol
>>25265527Pretty bad
>>25265527Excellent. Better than most fantasy slop that gets posted on here. I truly was immersed with your prose and description of the MCs pain and suffering.
>>25265184Get fucked, 4chan is the intellectual elite of the internet. Everybody here would get published if they tried.
>>25265172Anon, have you thought of commissioning an Asian artist for your cover? Apparently they're not so expensive.
>>25265934You will never be a real writer. You have no stories, you have no themes, you have no deeper meanings. You are an internet addicted manchild twisted by excessive reading and delusions of grandeur into a crude mockery of creative perfection.All the (You)s you get are tongue-in-cheek and from other trolls. To your face people mock you. /wg/ is disgusted and ashamed of you, your "frens" laugh at your masturbatory purple prose right out in the open.Authors are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of literary tradition have allowed authors to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even nopubs who "self-publish" read as uncanny and unnatural to an author. Your plot structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk author to critique your work, he'll close your rentry link and LOL the second he gets a whiff of your ridiculous, unfiltered adjective abuse.You will never be published. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself you're going to make it, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it'll be too much to bear - you'll by a double barreled shotgun, load it with buckshot, put it in your mouth, and pretend you're just like Hemingway. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They'll bury you with a headstone marked NGMI, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a pseud is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably not a writer.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
finally, the last sparring bit. gonna need to work on the scene transition, but it's a rough draft so it's ok if it's shit for nowdoes the right read ok or is it too clunky? does Red feel too much like a stereotype?