Is there anything more pathetic than a middle-aged man who neglects economic security for his family by deciding he's going to write a fantasy trilogy.The chance of success is 0.0001%. The chance of writing something worth reading is about the same; note these are independent variables. I've only read a couple pages of quoted "Dungeon Crawler Carl" and it's pure Reddit midwit cringe, yet it's successful. I defy anyone to predict ahead of time it would be any more successful than the tens of thousands of similar dreck. I mention it to acknowledge the very real lottery phenomenon that shit fantasy sometimes succeeds just like how old white women made 50 Shades of Grey the best selling novel of the 2000's.For years I said "yeah, I like fantasy". But what I really meant was "I like about 5 fantasy books written by Oxford professors with a lifetime to develop one great idea based on world class expertise in mythology and narrative".
>>25263346I don't think there's anything wrong to write a novel but expecting it to be a hit nowadays when the amount of adults reading for pleasure is at an all-time low is delusional
>>25263350>I don't think there's anything wrong to write a novel but expecting it to be a hit nowadays when the amount of adults reading for pleasure is at an all-time low is delusionalThe publishing industry openly refuses white male authors anyway, but suppose you were a genuine historian who understands medieval society and warfare, you. And you're pitching your novel to any of the big publishing houses (yeah yeah I know whitey would never even get in the door, but imagine you called in a family favor and they agreed to at least look at it). >Mmm, wow, ok your book was good Mr. Smith but I have to admit I was really put off by how none of the knights were women? I saw on your resume you teach history at a third rate community college (couldn't get hired by Ivy League, huh?) and so I'm kind of disappointed you don't even understand that half of all warriors were women? Didn't you see that breath-taking archeological finding of a viking woman buried with a sword that proves it?>btw, what do you think of our company's new best-seller which is also fantasy? You haven't read it?? Wow... so you're one of those men who tell women what to read? Ok, well, I have another appointment it was great meeting you!
>>25263346That picture is making me feel like an illiterate subsistence farming Jew in the Pale of Settlement of the Russian Empire. I can imagine the dread of hearing that the emperor has been assassinated and the impending thread of thousands of supple, toothy, sack-carrying goyim coming over the hill to burn down the shtetl. Horrifying, I never got the goy hate until seeing that image, an unthinking human cattle, ready at a moment's notice to do it again.
>>25263346There was a guy in a writers' group I attended years ago that wanted to quit his 9-5 in order to finish his sci-fi book. He thought he had something "really, really good" going, with his story about a dude who went around collecting old forgotten CDs or whatever in a futuristic world where there was no music or whatever. He had two young children and a wife. I told him as frankly as I could that he should never think about quitting his day job again.
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>>25263346>Is there anything more pathetic than a middle-aged man who neglects economic security for his family by deciding he's going to write a fantasy trilogy.A middle-aged man who sacrifices all the joy in his life to support a family that would stop loving him entirely if he was no longer able to provide for them.
>>25264103Kids come with responsibilities, champ.A father who neglects them is a fucking deadbeat.
>>25264479Being a kid used to come with duties and responsibilities. Being a wife used to come with duties and responsibilities. A man used to have the power of life and death over his wife and children. Now he's expected to be an ATM for an unloving wife and kids.
>>25264059now, unfortunately ill be interned
>>25264479in the age of no fault divorce baby daddy maxing is the way to go, wanting to provide and support a family is the way trad men serve feminism>>25263346fantasy and Star Wars are cooler than anything today and caring about being a "man" is lame, just do what you enjoy. Traditionalism is just feminism in a different shade
>>25264729Halfway correct unfortunately. Anyone who gets a legal marriage is a fucking retard, it's a slave contract.
>>25264732unless you marry a virgin wife and can kill her at anytime if she cheats or talks to another man, marriage is useless
>>25264732it's literally the same as it always was, it makes sense only if you're benefiting, ie if the spouse and her family are considerably more loaded and connected than you are
>>25264745>it's literally the same as it always wasIt is literally not at all like it "used to be" in any way, shape, or form. Women used to go from being their father's property to their husbands. No fault divorce didnt exist. It was legal to hit your wife. "Marital rape" didnt exist. And that was barely 100 years ago.
>>25264748and none of those things matter, if you're not marrying way up, don't get married
>>25264745>it's literally the same as it always was,majority of western women are not virgins before marriage, marital rape is a thing now, and women can divorce rape you for half your shit
>>25264758more things that don't matter
>>25263346>Is there anything more pathetic than a middle-aged man who neglects economic security for his family by deciding he's going to write a fantasy trilogy.Yes, being a zoomer complaining about old people on 4chan
>>25264760yes they do, the husband is entitled to sex whenever he wants unless the women is sick or on her period and marrying a non virgin women means ur a cuck and ur kids will have other mens sperm, and not be yours
>>25264712>Being a kid used to come with duties and responsibilities.No it didn't, dumbass. Responsibility is for adults. At least, it used to be.
>>25264729It you really want a divorce, and to give up your kids and half of everything else to your wife, then by all means, neglect your responsibilities as a father.
>>25264791>>25264791>>25264748>>25264758men are working 5000x harder for women who can even be virgins before marriage and refuse to cook and clean and give their husbands sex]may as well manchildmaxx
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>>25264791This is why you never get married in the first place. If she needs a contract that gives her power over you then she doesn't actually love you.
>>25264786Very small kids were sent to "play" in the fields all day to scare away crows. By 10 or so they were all doing serious farmwork.I'm a big fan of making childhood as happy, innocent, and gentle as can be but let's not be ahistorical.
>>25264800I look like that and say what I said
>>25264810>>25264810lmfao girl dads are insane, I would do that if society actually cared about just laws and did not favour women and let women divorce rape you, instead I will just baby daddy max and run away, based niggers just having kids and running away they know the game is rigged
The OP who resents people who have actual hobbies made this thread for the sole purpose of being angry because he is an incontinent retard who cannot control his emotions and should have been sterilized in a just and decent society.
>>25264805Let me guess, you worked as a chimney sweep from the age of eight.
>>25264841yeah they can be based sometimes, them gaming the judaic feminist system and just getting women pregnant and realizing marriage is a feminist scam is a good thing, enjoy getting divorce raped after 5 years, and you can't even legally kill your wife, danish law in the 13th century said that adultery was punished by death and nordics now are the most feminized people
>>25264869zased thou, enjoy getting divorce raped and marrying a non virgin, I would agree with you if society let men kill their wife if she cheated but it doesn't
>>25263350same, it's faustian in a way and you gotta respect it, just like chris mccandless or icarus(this is banal and could've gone without saying but i felt you deserved a palate cleanser after that culture-war brained sperg was your only reply)
>>25264817>>25264876It appears my reference to the parenting habits of African-Americans was deleted.Oh well, at least you guys remember it.
>>25264898I am not a leftist, I argue for killing your wife if she cheats lmao
I'm an uneducated heathen and not only am I writing a fantasy trilogy, I'm writing a fantasy SAGA, posted exclusively to a random site of my choosing which will make ZERO DOLLARS.
>>25264901Not saying it was you who ratted me to the mods. That's pure leftist shit.
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>>25263350>>25264053There are way too many older men who are weirdly delusional about writing the next big novel. They don't really get that fiction writing is similar to drawing/painting. If you want to find even a modicum of success as a creative, you have to fully commit yourself to it and be in-touch with the cultural zeitgeist, even if you don't read or are amateur at writing.Kojima and Araki may not be novelists, but they both prescribe reading as a key factor behind their success.
>>25264949They always point to Twilight or 50 Shades or Harry Potter or Percy Jackson or Eragon or ASOIAF or Mistborn as examples like that makes a difference, and they always forget that money, marketing, timing, reputation, and demographic targeting is what got these authors to be popular (on top of movie adaptations that brought them even more success).>Harry Potter was pretty much designed from the start as a multimedia project with movies made in mind and a team of ghostwriters, something Rowling leaves out of the conversation when talking about how she made it>Twilight and Mistborn owe their success to Mormons as a built-in consumer base that then spread the books out to the rest of the masses>Eragon was riding high off of the LOTR-Star Wars craze in the 2000s>Percy Jackson came out at the right time as a alternative for boys who may not have liked Harry Potter as much as girls>GRRM had been writing for a long time BEFORE he started ASOIAF and has never really stopped
>>25264949Are there any notable novels written using the Cawthon Method?
>>25264965>>GRRM had been writing for a long time BEFORE he started ASOIAF and has never really stoppedhas never really stopped
>>25263346I did this. I got laid off last year and spent months with no income writing my first novel while being supported by my very patient girlfriend.I started querying it a few months ago and got three agent offers. So, I might get it published and be able to pay her back.I don’t know if it will be a bestseller and make loads of money, and I don’t really care. I just wanted to prove I could actually write a good book. If it also does well, that’s fine.
