Thomas Pynchon is the most deserving living author to receive this award. But he almost certainly won't, because the committee won't want to honor someone who has spent most of his life in hiding and almost certainly won't be there to accept it. So who do you think deserves it most?
>>25265304>Thomas Pynchon is the most deserving living author to receive this awardWhy are Americans like this? Why do you even care about the nobel when you're so insular anyway?
Only author who wrote a novel in contention for greatest novel of all time. What other author has written a novel on that level? Should just give it to him.
>>25265304Committee already gave to Sartre who flat out refused to accept. Dylan sent a tape recording. Pynchon will not win because the Committee has never considered him good enough
>>25265308GR is garbage. Pic related is 1/8th the size but still way better and has way more behind it
>>25265304Probably they should give it to Rushdie. Not for being the best, but he fits well within the Nobel mold. He probably won't get it because they will think it would be islamophobic though. You know how eurocucks are about that.
>>25265314Literally who
>>25265310>Committee already gave to Sartre who flat out refused to accept. Dylan sent a tape recording. Pynchon will not win because the Committee has never considered him good enoughYes, but in both cases they expected both Sartre and Dylan to appear at the awards and give their speeches. The fact that they didn't was a surprise to the committee. Whereas with Pynchon, it's clear that he definitely won't be coming and giving a speech.
>>25265314I disagree with your first sentence but will read your rec anyway as I've been meaning to read some Murnane.
>>25265304But Tommy did give a speechHowever... accept this financial stipulation - ah - stipend in behalf of, uh, Richard Python for the great contribution and to quote from some of the missiles which he has contributed...Today we must all be aware that protocol takes precedence over procedure. Howewer you say - WHAT THE - what does this mean... in relation to the tabulation whereby we must once again realize that the great fiction story is now being rehearsed before our very eyes, in the Nixon administration... indicating that only an American writer can receive...the award for fction, unlike Solzinitski whose fiction doesn't hold water. Comrades - friends, we are gathered here not only to accept in behalf of one recluse - one who has found that the world in itself which seems to be a time not of the toad - to quote even Studs TurKAL. And many people ask "Who are Studs TurKAL?" It's not "Who are Studs TurKAL?" it's "Who am Studs TurKAL?" This in itself as an edifice of the great glory that has gone beyond, and the intuitive feeling of the American people, based on the assumption that the intelligence not only as Mencken once said, "He who underestimates the American pubic - public, will not go broke." This is merely a small indication of this vast throng gathered here to once again behold and to perceive that which has gone behind and to that which might go forward into the future...we've got to hurdle these obstacles. This is the main deterrent upon which we have gathered our strength and all the others who say, "What the hell did that get?" - We don't know. We've got to peforce withold the loving boy... And as Miller once said in one of his great novels- what did he ... that language is only necessary when communication is endangered. And you sit there bewildered, and Pinter who went further said "It is not the lack of communication but fear of communication." That's what the Goddamn thing is it's we fear - communication. Oh - fortunately the prize has only been given to authors - unlike the Academy Award which is given to a female and a male, indicating the derision of the human specie - God damn it! But we have no paranoia, and Mr. Pynchon has attained, and has created for himself serenity, and it is only the insanity that has kept him alive in his paranoia. We speak of the organ...of the orgasm...Who the hell wrote this? And the jury has determined to divide the prize between two writers - to Thomas Pynchon for his GRAVITY'S RAINBOW. Now GRAVITY'S RAINBOW is a token of this man's genius...he told me so himself...that he could...in other words, have been more specific, but rather than to allude the mundane, he has come to the conclusion that brevity is the importance of our shallow existence. God damn. Ladies and Gentlemen. To the distinguished panel on the, on the dais and to the other winners, for poetry and religion and science.
>>25265386The time will come when religion will outlive its usefulness. Marx, Groucho Marx, once said that religion is the opiate of the people. I say that when religion outlives its usefulness, then opium...will be the opiate...Ahh that's not a bad idea... All right...However, I want to thank Mr. Guinzburg, Tom Guinzburg of the Viking Press, who has made it possible for you people to be here this evening to enjoy the Friction Citation - the Fiction Citation. GRAVITY'S RAINBOW - a small contribution to a certain degree, since there are over three and a half billion people in the world today. 218 of them ... million live in the United States which is a very, very small amount compared to those that are dying elsewhere...Well, I say that you will be on the road to new horizons, for we who live in a society where sex is a commodity and a politician can become a TV personality, it's not easy to conform if you have any morality...I, I, I said that myself many years ago...But I do want to thank the bureau...I mean the committee, the organization for the $10,000 they've given out...tonight they made over $400,000 and I think that I have another appointment. I would like to stay here, but for the sake of brevity I, I must leave. I do want to thank you, I want to thank Mr. TurKAL. I want to thank Mr. Knopf who just ran through the auditorium* and I want to thank Breshnev, Kissinger - acting President of the Unites States - and also want to thank Truman Capote and thank you.
>>25265323That's a blatant lie. Sartre had refused the prize 2 months before he was even expected to appear to make a speech. Pynchon won't come to give a speech because the committee don't give a shit about him.
>>25265304Jonathan Franzen is a more worthy American author than Tommy Pinecone.
>>25265390>That's a blatant lie. Sartre had refused the prize 2 months before he was even expected to appear to make a speech. Pynchon won't come to give a speech because the committee don't give a shit about him.This was not quite the case. Sartre did indeed learn that his name was on the list, and on October 14 he wrote an official letter to the Swedish Academy, asking that he not be selected and stating that he would not accept the prize. For some reason (either intentionally or through negligence), this letter was not read or reached the right people too late. On October 22, the Academy officially declared Sartre the winner. Only then did Sartre issue a public statement to the Parisian press, explaining that a writer must not allow himself to be turned into an “institution.”
>>25265323>>25265390>>25265410All of this is ultimately irrelevant. You cunts are just spitting trivia. The Nobel committee from 100 years ago is not the same as today
>>25265307It's a mutual thing. The American literary world is insular in part because Europeans derisively scoff at American work.Also, Europeans viewing anyone else as insular is really a pot calling the kettle black situation. How many times now has the Nobel Prize in Literature gone to some second-rate Scandinavian?
>>25265410Yet his name was not rescinded. There's Beckett as well, who refused to come and deliver the speech yet he was chosen nevertheless
>>25265390Is it even all that surprising given what's actually in gr?
Cynthia Ozick is 98Robert Caro is 90Thomas Pynchon is 89Don DeLillo is 89Gerald Murnane is 87Joyce Carol Oates is 87Margaret Atwood is 86Peter Carey is 83Richard Ford is 82Julian Barnes is 80Charles Palliser is 78Salman Rushdie is 78Enrique Vila-Matas is 78César Aira is 77Ian McEwan is 77Haruki Murakami is 77Can Xue is 72Michel Houellebecq is 70Mircea Cartarescu is 69Emmanuel Carrère is 68Karl Ove Knausgard is 57
I lost all respect and interest in the nobel prize when Dylan got it. For the record, I like his music, but what a travesty that was. If it had to be an American, based on merit and career, it should have been Roth, Delillo, Pynchon or Cormac.Roth openly solicited the prize, so he would have been discarded fast. Pynchon would have never showed up, so he’s out. Cormac was too autistic and I think the controversy around his personal life might have been too much. Delillo was a perfectly acceptable choice and would have been enormously deserved. Yet, they choose Dylan, for no other reason than to be subversive and controversial. What a joke.Pynch will never get it, neither will any truly deserving author, because the committee are too busy stroking their own cocks and being subversive for no reason at all. The Nobel is just another ‘New York Times Best Seller’ now.
>>25265304/lit/ should collectively receive itI swear I wouldn't've heard of half the extraordinary wordsmiths that I've come to appreciate over the years without lurking here
>>25265304Me, because I chose not to write anything this year in solidarity with women worldwide who suffer under femicide.
>>25266140>Roth openly solicited the prizeLmao did he really? Reminds me of Evelyn Waugh when declined the Order of the British Empire believing he deserved knighthood instead. In a way I have to respect it.
>>25265304If i were of the nobel committe i wouldn't want to give it to an American, either. The nobel payout is over a million dollars and since Reagan's 1986 tax reforms prize winnings are taxable income. If the nobel goes to an american between local and fed tax it could amount to something like a 50% payout to a corrupt, decaying government.
>>25266140han kang and jon fosse are NYT best sellers?
>>25266726>The nobel payout is over a million dollars and since Reagan's 1986 tax reforms prize winnings are taxable income.Holy shit are you serious? This is now a laugh at burgerkeks thread hahahahahaha
