Literally all of fiction is either exaggerated fake gossip, or fake history invented to change people's opinions. Think about it. The same rush of excitement you feel when reading about a sudden betrayal between two characters in a book is the same rush Becky feels when Stacy tells her about how their coworker Brad lied about his height on his dating profile. Plato speaks about this, about how mythical poetry is just like base voyeurism and inherently a vice. But unlike gossip, it doesn't serve the social functions of building a stronger bond between the gossipers and punishing degenerate behaviour. And the "deep" fiction that is about instilling moral values into the audience is just as bad as people writing fake history to cloud people's observation of the real world. The vast majority of people at this point have politics based on TV shows, video games and TikTok skits, of both political wings. Fiction is that women are just as strong and capable rulers as men. History is that the Northern Wei dynasty used to kill the mothers of the elected throne heir because of how much ruin Empress Dowagers caused to the Han dynasty, until the one time when Empress Hu was spared, and she led the dynasty to ruin with corruption and waste.Never read fiction. Skip all cutscenes.
A fictionless world is a world of brutalism.
history is fake history
>>25266047women were always going to be stupid regardless. it's not the fault of fiction.
>Literally
>>25266159I meant literally all fiction, not hyperbole.
>>25266159how autistic. even orwell would look down on this. curate your speech patterns until you're ted talking, yeah.
>>25266047>there are people reading fiction for something else than style and vibesL'art pour l'art was right. Anything else is degenerate. The moment someone starts caring about plot or, God forbid, characters, it's completely joever.
>>25266047Fiction, except perhaps very good fiction that carries a message, like for example Goethe Faust, is poison for the mind.
>>25266047Hmm.
>>25267891Based
>>25266047you can write essays about how the federalized local police will have so many dei intersectionality seminars and recruitment campaigns from justice involved persons that theyre going to be gangsters with badges and interact with people based on the privilege level of the person and whether the person has something they want as a bribe. or you can write a novel about an american soldier infiltrating the peoples republic of north america where a persons intersectional privilege level is written on xir real id card as a single number and the ruling elite in their gated communities have everything while the democrat voters who were promised everything in exchange for votes now fight over nothing, and the question of why americans living in iowa would want to invade and then have to rule over blues living in calipornia, but have to just to keep the chinese from absorbing calipornia. the essay about what kind of provisional armies the americans could raise in calipornia to keep the blues down and the chinese out would be more readable as a novel
>>25266047>he says this as he posts an image of a fictional character from a fictional universeel oh elNo, you need fiction in this world, otherwise you don’t have perspective into someone else’s mind, which is the most important thing of all.
>>25266219>>25266457>literally projecting
>>25266055this. people need to stop pretending otherwise.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cUR4up6EBLA&ra=m
>>25267786if faust was so smart, he would of known that selling his soul was impossible, and there was nothing he wanted from the devil anyway
>>25266047Fiction is just a way to explore idea removed from bias. What isn't a vice?
>>25266047This is true. You should do nothing but talk to people in real life, work, and meditate. Reading philosophy is also a waste of time btw
Correct.
>>25270432>>25266047The first layer is that you ought to avoid fiction.Second layer is that fiction is an extension of imagination to experience a simplified scenario to prepare yourself for the real thing—play acting, play fighting, all training is fiction.The third layer is that all dianoia is fiction, every word a reduction, a heuristic. Experience is vorstellung. All imaginative and linguistic knowledge is metaphor, myth, hyperbole.And we find the division is not between fiction and nonfiction, bit between true fiction and false fiction.
>>25266047Humans are naturally meaning-making creatures. We constantly connect events into stories because stories help us>predict outcomes>remember information>build identity>coordinate socially>emotionally process experienceThat tendency can produce genuine insight, but it can also produce false narratives conspiracy theories, superstition, seeing intention in randomness, etc. Psychologists sometimes call this apophenia: perceiving meaningful patterns in unrelated things.AI systems and NPCs also detect patterns, but without lived experience, embodiment, emotion, or intrinsic understanding. A language model predicts likely continuations based on statistical relationships in data.
>>25266047Spoken like a true, soulless, Isamaa card carrying Estonian, born not out of a mother's womb but carved into a golem from a pile of Indian dalit shit, who perceives nothing in the world except functionality, work, and profit: a German's sperm homunculus let loose upon the northeastern corner of the Baltic sea somewhere in the 19th century: Satan's constipated log luckily let loose on the borders of the oikumen and Russia.I know art feels meaningless to the atheist materialists, but it's one of the few things, along with science and religion, that separates humans from apes. You can take a look at the Soviet World, and post-Soviet shitholes like Estonia, too, since nothing has fundamentally changed since the USSR except an ideological shift from red totalitarianism to a right wing totalitarianism masked by thin veneer of democracy. It's been the Soviet project to strip the people of burgeoisie art, like music and literature, exactly for the same reason you described: it perverts people, gives them bad thoughts and feelings, it has no inherent meaning, it's useless, it doesn't give you skills. The result? Several nations of deracinated genuine subhumans compared to which even Jeets and African and abos with their oral lore feel closer to mankind proper. Whatever the function of literature is, if you take it away from people, people wither and lose something very vital. In the worst case scenario, it's better to have a King or Yarros, who may not be literary but are at least written with feeling, than whatever functional or edifying nationalist literature that reads like AI slop even though it was written before AI was even a thought in the minds of the scientific avantgarde.I'm not a specialist in the evolutionary function of literature, but I can say that people need stories, some people have a drive to write stories, and taking that away from people (like the Soviet Union did) makes people suffer from a genuine loss of meaning. As a last point, it's interesting that in the art and fiction deprived world of the USSR science didn't thrive either. Sure, it was all scientific and materialistic and highly autistic but, when compared to USA and Europe and Japan, it amounted to nothing.Stripping people of fiction is like stripping people of religion and stripping people of art and stripping people of music: you eradicate something that makes humans essentially human. You get gopniks and Estonians instead.
