I'm a Frenchman living in an Anglo country and I've always had a poor opinion of Anglo literature, a mix between puritan culture and American consumerism bullshit that makes every book seem boring or fake. Now I only have access to books written in English.What are some authors worth reading? I want literature that makes you feel something, without the protestant mentality or self help go-getter crap. Something like Dostoiveski, Dazai, Murakami, Celine, Kundera, or even Houellebecq. Do such authors exist in the Anglosphere?
>>25268220>a mix between puritan culture and American consumerism bullshit that makes every book seem boring or fakebut this is real america or was before it became mostly pus
>>25268220I’m a little surprised a literate Frenchman could be so ignorant of Anglo literature that his entire idea of it is just airport novels and self-help books. And so many of our best writers have been Catholics and decadents… I will try to think of some recommendations for you after I am less busy
>>25268220>I am uh Frensh mahn Gay
>>25268220If you don't like it, leave. You are not welcome here you stinky frog.
>>25268220Winesburg, OhioTrain DreamsSo The Wind Won't Blow it All AwayThe Lime TwigThe Sheltering Sky
>>25268221Surely there's more to it>>25268222Appreciate it. All I've read was Henry Miller and Poe which I've liked, and some Shakespear.>>25268231>>25268238:)
>>25268220>Now I only have access to books written in English.What kind of larp is this? What anglo country has banned importing french books?
>>25268269I'm literally on the other side of the world. It's extremely expensive and I read a lot.
>>25268279Ill tell you a secret, there are many books on the internet for free, many even in French.
>>25268284I will tell you a secret, OP is trolling and does not read.
>>25268279Well ok. Check out Patrick White
>>25268284Sure and I have an ebook when I'm desperate but I hate digital. Anyway now that I want to give Anglo authors a try in their original language.
>>25268288I'm pretty sure I've read more books than you. That's all I do really. >>25268289Will check. I hope it's not about aboriginals though I hear enough about them daily.
>>25268220>I’m a FrenchmanLe opinion discarded
>>25268220that is Courtney Love yes??
dfw
>>25268293>just trust me broWould be more believable if you were more interested in talking to the two anons who made suggestions instead of the people taking the bait.
>>25268220Just read Edgar Allan Poe like every other Frenchman
>>25268220My french mate who is very literate and hates anglo culture loves Fitzgerald and Hemingway for some reason. Maybe try them if you haven't already. I like Vonnegut, I think he is funny and interesting. I personally mostly just read poetry from the 19th century: Tennyson, Wordsworth, Keats, Shelley
>>25268231Non, Opie est un faguette, Mon petite cornichon, n'est pa? Ohn ohn ohn
I'm Australian and I exclusively read books written in French so I don't get what your problem here is exactly?Who is stopping your from reading books in French if that's what you want to do?Fucking moron
How can Frenchmen cope with all their greatest literary figures being anglophiles?>Voltaire and Montisque were anglophiles who admired england and its system of government>The french revolutionaries were inspired by the american anglo revolutionaries and by the glorious revolution of 1688>France's romantic writers like hugo, balzac, flaubert and dumas were all influenced by Walter scott, horace walpole and charles maturin>Baudelaire learned english to translate poe
>>25268354because everything they wrote is better than the anglos they were inspired by
>>25268220>makes every book seem boring or fake>I want literature that makes you feel something, without the protestant mentality>Something like DostoiveskiThis has to be bait right? Dostoyevsky is the biggest fake solution christslop writer in the canon. There is no real feeling in Dostoyevsky, only repressed melodrama. Anyway read Shakespeare, Blake, Shelley, Scott, Spenser and Beowulf.
>>25268366That better applies to the Russians
>>25268428>repressed melodramawhat's that even supposed to mean? How can melodrama be repressed?
>>25268335Those sound like good recommendations. Always wanted to read Hemingway. What's the most decadent English poet? >>25268352Where do you get French books in Australia?
>>25268469Physical books on amazon, digital books on wikisource
>>25268469Swinburne, Dowson
>>25268220>I'm a Frenchman living in an Anglo country and I've always had a poor opinion of Anglo literaturewho is your fav female character from french literature?
>Now I only have access to books written in English.lrn2Internet u fucking villager.
>>25268428If you see repression in everything ...
>>25268441Melodrama resulting from a repressed personality.
>>25268220Paradise LostAbsalom, AbsalomThat should get you started.
>>25268220Read some Bush poetry, and The Magic Pudding by Norman Lindsay
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>>25270668Bush poetry as in Australian? The magic pudding is a book for kids apparently... >>25270620Thanks
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>>25268354notice how all of those people are from centuries ago
>>25268220It falls off a bit near the end but the first 2/3 of The Way of All Flesh is easily some of the best Anglo lit of the entire 19th century.
>>25270620recommending milton after OP complained about puritan culture, genius.>>25271386co sign. surprised at seeing a samuel butler rec on /lit/ but he was a great writer. all of his stuff well worth reading. SB had an ingenuity for knocking highly-respected names and notions off their perches.
>>25268220Why don't you read Gravity's rainbow, the ultimate American book. You def won't have to worry about it being too "puritan" that's for sure.
>>25271419>Why don't you read Gravity's rainbow, >the ultimate American bookthink you answered your own question
>>25270750Yes Australian Bush Poetry like Henry Lawson and Banjo Patterson. Also yeah it’s a children’s book but it’s absolutely brilliant you will adore it
>>25271628don’t rate aus writers generally but there’s one very good one i know:clive james. he wrote this in the twilight of his life Your death, near now, is of an easy sort.So slow a fading out brings no real pain.Breath growing shortIs just uncomfortable. You feel the drainOf energy, but thought and sight remain:Enhanced, in fact. When did you ever seeSo much sweet beauty as when fine rain fallsOn that small treeAnd saturates your brick back garden walls,So many Amber Rooms and mirror halls?Ever more lavish as the dusk descendsThis glistening illuminates the air.It never ends.Whenever the rain comes it will be there,Beyond my time, but now I take my share.My daughter’s choice, the maple tree is new.Come autumn and its leaves will turn to flame.What I must doIs live to see that. That will end the gameFor me, though life continues all the same:Filling the double doors to bathe my eyes,A final flood of colours will live onAs my mind dies,Burned by my vision of a world that shoneSo brightly at the last, and then was gone.
In retrospect it seems noteworthy that most of the English-language lit I really like either had an extensive afterlife in France (Shakespeare, Poe, Faulkner) or strong French influence (Byron, Pound.) I guess this leaves Yeats, O‘Neill, McCarthy, Hughes.
>>25271641Have you read Joyce? He lived and wrote in Paris, as did Hemingway
>>25268220Taises ta gueule, petit croissant. Dieux, j'adore des enfants!
>>25271419Nobody but Steinbeck ever wrote an "American" novel. Twain came close, but even he never quite made it.
>>25272426Seconding Mark Twain. He’s America’s Voltaire.
>>25268220>I want literature that makes you feel something, without the protestant mentality or self help go-getter crap.Bartleby, The Scrivener.
>>25272434Now that's a good rec. I'll put forward Typee, Omoo, and Mardi, which is when Melville starts really getting good.>In the distance what visions were spread! The entire western horizon high piled with gold and crimson clouds; airy arches, domes, and minarets; as if the yellow, Moorish sun were setting behind some vast Alhambra. Vistas seemed leading to worlds beyond. To and fro, and all over the towers of this Nineveh in the sky, flew troops of birds. Watching them long, one crossed my sight, flew through a low arch, and was lost to view. My spirit must have sailed in with it; for directly, as in a trance, came upon me the cadence of mild billows laving a beach of shells, the waving of boughs, and the voices of maidens, and the lulled beatings of my own dissolved heart, all blended together. >Yet Jarl, the descendant of heroes and kings, was a lone, friendless mariner on the main, only true to his origin in the sea-life that he led. But so it has been, and forever will be. What yeoman shall swear that he is not descended from Alfred? what dunce, that he is not sprung of old Homer? King Noah, God bless him! fathered us all. Then hold up your heads, oh ye Helots, blood potential flows through your veins. All of us have monarchs and sages for kinsmen; nay, angels and archangels for cousins; since in antediluvian days, the sons of God did verily wed with our mothers, the irresistible daughters of Eve. Thus all generations are blended: and heaven and earth of one kin: the hierarchies of seraphs in the uttermost skies; the thrones and principalities in the zodiac; the shades that roam throughout space; the nations and families, flocks and folds of the earth; one and all, brothers in essence—oh, be we then brothers indeed!
