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Reincarnated Writer is About To Be Captured by All Sloppers Edition

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>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?
A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more

>Why read web novels?
Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.

>Why write web novels?
Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.
Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.

>Advice for Noobs!

##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##

Running your story like the business it is:
www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847

On writing web serials:
alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/

Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLY

Recommended web novels
rentry.co/d2yvczro

Anon's guide to success
rentry.co/RRBasicGuide

FAQ
rentry.co/pytefpxn
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read Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess by cocopi
it's peak
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>write well
>cannot pace a story for the life of me
just kill me bros im so retarded my winnie sucks
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/wng/ gacha power rankings:
1. Wuthering Waves
2. Uma Musume Pretty Derby
that's it. These are the two /wng/ approved gacha games. No other gachas are worth playing.
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>>25269241
For me, its Mahjong Soul.
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Opinions on Beyond the Timescape? I've always liked Er Gen's stuff and was looking forward to binging this once the TL was done but now a lot of people are saying the story starts out great but goes to shit which is kind of demoralizing. Is there perhaps a good jumping off point?
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>>25269260
>story starts out great but goes to shit
sounds like er gen
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had to finally cull my RR follow list because it was clogged up with so much slop that I'd stopped reading 100 chaptes in
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>>25269260
I assume it goes to shit when he leaves the planet? That's when I Shall Seal the Heavens went to shit
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>>25269295
ISHIT goes to shit in chapter 1.
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How emotionally invested do you get into writing an intense scene? I noticed I kind of tranced out during writing the first real big fight set-piece of my story so far and my heart rate shot up. It was kind of fun.
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>>25269303
Depends how drunk or zaza'd I am, sometimes both.
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>>25269306
>DUDE WEED!!!
Hylic post
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>>25269308
caffeine tweaker having a spasm
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>>25269232
I wish this was my girlfriend. She would love to wash my soiled underwear. Alas.
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>>25269236
the trick to writing a good winnie is not wanting to writing a good one at all.

source: me with 2000 views on rr :)
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how do you guys get enough ideas to write on and on with your books?

my friend told me to outline but I found my story and character arcs ending quite quick.

I just want to write a story that could go on for hundreds of chapters.

I do read other books and I still found my protagonist's journey ending quite soon. Is it a protagonist issue?
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Is Player 0.4 good?
I also want to know about Death after Death. Is it going to end soon? Should I read it?
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>>25269430
Your protagonist should NOT be resolving his own character arc. Instead, he should be resolving the arcs of side characters while making vague, indefinable progress towards his own goals.

Personally I just sprinkle one or two plothooks into each chapter, and every couple dozen chapters I resolve like half of them all at once in a big climax. That still leaves me plenty more plot hooks to play with later.
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>>25269430
Im not writing a story that goes on forever. I did 5 years ago for about 4 years before a cocktail of burnout, suicidal thoughts and imposter syndrome made me axe it, but I owe it to not writing towards a definite ending and lacking a outline until it was too late. I was a lot more amateur and wrote very purple prosey and kept introducing more and more side perspectives. This time around I am writing with a far tighter narrative and far smalller cast with even fewer perspective, though, but I suppose this is actually the polar opposite of what youre asking for.
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>>25269236
>write well
>cannot pace a story
Then you actually can't write well??
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>>25269534
oh my god
you're right
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>>25269534
it seems to be implying that there are other aspects of writing which could contribute to writing "well" and that one aspect doesn't negate the rest
not sure though might need an expert this is reallyyyy complex
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Has anyone tried substack for their web novels? Any luck getting comments/readers on there? Seeing that heaven snu snu cave woman ad made me curious now. Its probably the only platform I haven't tried yet beside soacebattles/rr/scribblehub
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>>25269554
I recently made one, but haven't really shared it around. I just have it as another place to put the book online. Seems their SEO is good enough that organic web searches have it come up.
Obviously, more content increases this.
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>>25269465
got it. introduce more characters to shape my protagonist's perspective slowly by knowing more about them.

>>25269524
kek your previous experience seems to be the answer for my issue albeit avoiding the purple prose.

I guess I'm being way too tight with my narrative that I should let loose and meander a bit. I'm just not a slice-of-life enjoyer kind so I'm limited with my perspective.
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>>25269236
Then write romance, rom com or slice of life like literally every author.
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>>25269636
i AM anon, that's the issue
i'm hovering around having the MC do nothing before the love interest even shows up
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>>25269638
you get a pass if hes having a tism moment over the magic system
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Why's there no scifi isekai imo
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>>25269713
It's called time travel.
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Are there any tropey fool's errands in magic systems that RR readers would be familiar with? À la the examples on this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fool%27s_errand, but magic, like liquid mana crystals or something
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>>25269743
>staff lubricant
>mermaid's boots
>visibility cloak
>vial of universal solvent
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>>25269713
But there is. Quite a lot of it.
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>>25269713
Pic related went from launching the web novel in Feb 2019 to a light novel in 5 months and a manga 4 months after that and an anime was announced in Feb 2020 though it's not coming out until this October.
It's literally the most basic bitch isekai wish fulfillment harem slop you could imagine.
Guy dies and is reborn in the space mmo he was playing, gets an overpowered ship for no reason that he's really good with because he played the game a lot and had no life. He builds a crew that's all girls and they're all in his harem.
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>>25269713
>Why's there no scifi isekai imo
Exsqueeze me?
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>>25269862
Though to it's credit the MC isn't the typical Japanese wimp doormat MC and actually pursues the girls. Also doesn't hesitate to kill bad guys like pirates and kidnappers while feeling that's it too bad he has to kill them but without drowning in angst or remorse.
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>>25269713
>scifi isekai
you mean alien abduction?
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>>25269873
That is just gratuitous porn for the runaway fantasies of children
Pure puer escapism and only puer aeternatus would consume thag porn.

Also make by a kike.
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>>25269713
Muv Luv Alternative was one and that came out in 2006
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>>25269880
Strictly speaking most summoning isekais are alien abduction, so that doesn't make shit sci-fi.
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>>25269891
>ENGLISH CAN EAT SHIT, I REPEAT, ENGLISH CAN EAT SHIT
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>>25269902
human.......... brains!!!!!!!!!!
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>Rifag stops posting towards the end of the previous thread
>porn-hater anon starts posting
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HAHA SUCKERS I'M GETTING SIGNED WITH AN AGENT

SEE YOU AT BAFTA
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>>25269987
Your agent looks like 50 Jeets in a sweatshop.
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>>25269987
isn’t this the webnovel thread?
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>>25270007
My book is worth at least like 75 jeets
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>>25269987
I am very doubtful this is a legit agent rather than a scam vanity publisher. I don't want to rain on your parade, it's just that I've been getting bothered by these types for a while.

TLDR just look into this properly. Both into this account and the publisher affiliated with it, if any.
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>>25270084
Anon, I don't think someone saying "See you at BAFTA" in all caps is being serious. That's a pretty well-known xitter bot among the authors on that shithole.
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>>25269880
I 'member reading some alien abduction kinda self-pub on Amazon way the fuck back in the early 2010s. I never finished it but it encoded itself into my long-term memory because it began with the MC being some disabled war veteran who had just paid for a prostitute to come and give him a handjob or some such.
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>>25270150
link? I'm still desperate for a wheelchair-bound isekai dude getting sexually harassed by hot women so this will do.
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Thinking about writing a smut novel on the side for practice and jollies. How often do you think actual smut scenes should come up in a smut WN? Every time I've tried writing smut before, it always turned into "Oops, all plot" with actual smut spread very far apart. What's the best spread of smut-to-plot in your eyes? How many chapters deep should you go before the first sex scene happens, max, before the average smut reader loses interest?
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>>25270269
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006K9E1FA
It appears I bought this on June 4th, 2012. And the author hyperlink leads to a search page instead of an author page.
https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/5825457.J_D_McCartney
This was the only author's work. :( Surprising since it has... well, surprising high reviews.
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>>25270373
Addendum: Don't suppose any of you would be interested in the batch of books I bought then? This was ancient amazon self-pub way before webnovels were a popular thing. polite youknowwhat
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>>25270316
There are various styles you can go for depending on when and how often you want your smut

When:
>smut relegated to plot irrelevant side chapters and/or the post story
>smut relegated to after the first act or midpoint
>smut relegated to after the first act or midpoint except for foreplay and masturbation scenes
>smut from roughly the start of the story

How often:
>virtually all the time with at most some smut free scene transition chapters on occasion
>about half the time, generally with a smut-free setup chapter or two and then a smutty payoff chapter or two
>about 10%-20% of the time, with smut coming up generally at the end of subplots either as climaxes or wrap ups, sometimes with a mid-arc chapter or two to break up the action/introduce a character sexily, with the amount of smut scaled to however long it has been since the last scene so a relatively consistent average is maintained

As for how long you can go until your first smut scene, I wouldn't go much more than 12 chapters unless you're putting off smut til the end of your first act or beyond and I don't even recommend doing that. Consistency is the name of the game, not frequency, but it's always weird to see stories transition to smut after they've been smut free for a long time.
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>>25270316
Depends on your audience. You're never going to please everyone.
I'd say once every 10 chapters for plot heavy smut stories. More frequent if you're basically writing porn with plot. If it's a litrpg I wouldn't even go more often than once every 10. But that's just like my opinion.
If you're doing scenes like once ever 40 chapters or whatever your story isn't even smut, it's just a regular story with sexual content tag.
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>>25269464
>Is Player 0.4 good?
it's peak
>Should I read it?
yes, it's peak
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>>25270538
>it's peak
ah, so it must be unreadable garbage
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/wng/ approved vinnies?
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>>25270647
mine!
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>>25270647
any one of these
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>>25269232
How common/successful is AI sloppa in Royal Road
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What are gu?
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>>25270699
see >>25266754
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Thoughts on this author body of work?
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>>25270710
mrh
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>>25270710
Don't they still have to take dick in the first and third stories in order to produce a heir since they're nobles
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10 chapters left of part 1 of my story. Man seems a little overwhelmingly now that I lean back in my chair and think about it. About 8 of them have been prewritten in a older draft version so the toughest hurdle so I just need to modernize them into my current voice and shake all the atrcious amount of homeric influence. It's just figuring out the next 2 chapters I need to write since they were originally a passing paragraph in the old draft, and I decided to expand them into 3 chapters. I kinda worry these 2 chapters will come off as really rushed but I trust readers, all 6-20 of them, will appreciate why I did what I did. At this rate I could probably finish before June if I'm lucky.
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>>25270710
Goonshit
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I've never written before but I've done some dming
I'm gonna try and write a webnovel wish me luck bros
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>>25270799
good luck sis
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>>25270799
babsed
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I want to read a fun OP MC with a harem novel. I care a lot more about the former than the latter. Any suggestions?

I've read Arcane Emperor (fine) and Mushoku Tensei (good) and a bunch of others.
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>>25270911
see >>25265106 >>25265130 >>25266265
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>>25270915
Thanks I'll check it out. Got any other suggestions?
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I just read this part and already know this guy's gonna be a kino character just from this short flashback . Very efficient writing.
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>>25271101
Reads like something MTL would generate. Into the trash it goes.
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>story is picking up the pace and turning more exciting
>chapter comments are all positive and having fun
>follower count only goes down
What the fuck is the problem!??
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>>25271101
a lot of oddly worded sentences
>He approached me with a stiff face. I met him and nodded.
Does "I met him" mean that he also walked up to Schweitzer, or that he turned to him, or is the writer just trying to use more creative language? It doesn't create a strong image of what's actually happening in the scene.
>But he did not hide his displeasure. He had been pushed around by my letter and forced to come here, so his pride was hurt.
What is the "but" supposed to mean here? Maybe there's context before this. Also the use of conversational first-person narration but not using contractions is odd. It reads like someone trying to convey a sort of formal speech pattern poorly. Also the old reliable show, don't tell. Saying "he did not hide his displeasure" doesn't make sense to say when you could just describe it in less words like "he frowned".
>Like Leon said,
just cut that out
From this excerpt it's not clear who's speaking, maybe it's clearer in context but even if that's the case the constant asides in narration during dialogue is distracting. If one character is speaking from "The Durkon Legion..." to "...Imperial Palace" then it's not good.
>Civilian massacres, execution of prisoners, looting.
Would work better with periods instead of commas.
>After the Empire fell, he was among the so-called "first death-row prisoners" hanged first at the war crimes tribunal.
The comma after "fell" is a common amateur mistake of trying to control the pace the reader reads with syntax. I'm not sure how they're "so-called 'first death-row prisoners'" if that's a literal description. Maybe it makes sense in context. The second use of "first" is redundant. "death-row" shouldn't be hyphenated unless it's referring to a literal death-row like someone dying while rowing a boat.
>His figure overlapped with the memory of his trial before my regression.
Again, maybe this makes sense in context but assuming this isn't referring to some kind of memory power the author obviously wrote this while imagining it to be a scene from a movie rather than an actual action.
>I! Never! Lost to you even once!
again, using syntax to control how a reader interprets pacing is almost always awkward to read.

Thoughts anyone? I'm also a bad writer, I like to deconstruct like this because I think it helps me learn.
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>>25271305
>>25271156
it's MTL, it's not that deep
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>>25270911
Reverend insanity, but fair warning his harem is mostly men he turned into women using gu (the power system in this world)
But they become actual women who can have periods and get pregnant, so it's not like they're transgender or futanari (though in reverend insanity men can rarely get pregnant too, but it might just be a unique racial trait of black men, the novel was banned before the black guy's pregnancy was explained)
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>>25271315
I mean, MTL or not it doesn't change how it reads. It's an exercise like I said.
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You'll have to put in more effort than that if you want anyone to bite, RIhater.
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>>25271346
neck (You)rself faggot
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>>25271349
No, I don't think I will shitposting nigger-kun
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>>25271305
It's a translation. These sorts of streams of consciousness writing style is pretty much standard eastern webnovel writing. the way their language works makes it easier for reader to fill in the blanks and convey scenes and monologues at the same time without unnecessary bloat. They dont care about prose or writing rules as long as it moves the scenes/plot while still giving the readers emotional depth/feel
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>>25271380
>unnecessary bloat
I actually think it's neither bloat nor unnecessary.
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read Cruel Violet by Dreamer's Riot
it's peak FoidMC
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>>25271431
it feels like the cover changes every day. Is this a new strategy?
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>Sir, the 20,000th archmage hit RS
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>>25271305
>>His figure overlapped with the memory of his trial before my regression.
>Again, maybe this makes sense in context but assuming this isn't referring to some kind of memory power the author obviously wrote this while imagining it to be a scene from a movie rather than an actual action.
It's invoking those manga panels that juxtapose two versions a single character from different time periods at the once.
A lot of winnies are just writing out manga or anime stories.
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What's kind of fight scenes do readers want?

I've just started with writing and fight scenes are confusing to me with what's crucial for it.

Is it more important for me to be detailed with gory scenes of the mc just beating his way through hordes of thugs or monsters?

Is it more important showcasing the improvement of mc from his previous point to the next?

Is it the stakes of the situation at hand? Overcoming an enemy that's levels above him and having that satisfying resolution at the end where someone glazes him to no end?

I'm still early in my story and I just wanted an oldboy or daredevil hallway fight scene to write, but I feel like that'd be too long or if I write it too short, it wont end up the way I imagined it.
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>>25271513
Watch those scenes you like, write down what happens.

Expand on them in your own style of prose. See what sticks to you.

Watch them again, see what you missed, write that all down too.

Put that all together, and now you see what stands out to YOU for a fight scene. You're the only reader you can confirm the tastes of, so use you as reference.
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>>25271513
>>25271517
FUCK OFF REDDIT
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>>25271513
Copy what's previously been successful, of course. HWFWM, Primal Hunter, BTDEM, Azarinth Healer, or whatever cultivation story you like. Analyze the pacing of the fight, what gets described, and what you think makes it work, then do that.
Remember, good artists copy, great artists steal.
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>HWFWM, Primal Hunter, BTDEM, Azarinth Healer
Holy redd*t
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>>25271528
Oh, sorry, I forgot Brando Sando and Dungeon Crawler Carl.

Obviously I'm talking about what's popular, which is objectively what readers want by majority opinion.

You could ALSO just rip the fight scenes from the Lattimore's Iliad, which works surprisingly well even today. Lattimore/Homer really knew how to write a good fight.
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>>25271517
>>25271525
>>25271532
I'll take note of this and reread the classics. It does feel like writing is a whole lot of research now that I'm getting into it.
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>>25271536
Once you do it, though, you figure out your style and you can just write more or less on autopilot. Phrases become automatic, then sentences, and then paragraphs, and you can focus more on narrative structure, the pacing of scenes, and other things.
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>>25271532
fuck off, retard
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>>25271523
>>25271528
>>25271540
Sounds like someone got a one-star review today
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My biggest issue with The Demon Queen Wants To Live is that it is just not as interesting as the authors other story which gets less updates.
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>>25271540
what are you even sperging over? that anon is right
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>>25271615
Reddit-spacing tourists are not welcome on this website
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>>25271615
no, he's really not
he's just spouting basic, generic advice. saying the study successful works and classics is pointless
people who unironically repeat maxims as if tautological statements like
>good artists copy, great artists steal
are retarded
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>>25271607
It seems like the Duchess one got more follows because of the success of Demon Queen. So maybe it will pick up.
Also I noticed the author changed their location to Pluto.
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>>25271652
>has a stroke
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>>25271644
>Reddit-spacing
Is this a meme or do people actually give a shit?
Why
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>>25271654
>Also I noticed the author changed their location to Pluto.
The Pakistani space program has come so far
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>>25271644
Nigga you are in the WN thread, good luck finding one that doesn't Reddit space
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>>25271652
retard
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>>25271659
I've picked up this habit due to writing of thinking of multiple sentence structures at once
I fuck up collapsing them into the final timeline sometimes
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I can understand if you're light novel-pilled, but why the fuck are western RR authors making their isekai MCs also Japanese? You and your story look so fucking dumb. inb4 every isekai is dumb.
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>>25271743
Yeah they should make their MCs Bulgarian instead
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>>25271751
Introducing Bulgarians somewhere never improves anything. Which may be the point, I suppose.
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>>25271743
>want genre aware protagonist
>makes protagonist come from the country that loves the genre
really makes you think
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>>25271743
japoid stories don't seem to do very well there. People want the premise, but with names they can pronounce. "Light novel writing" in general gets upset reviews
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>>25271743
I've been reading one about an American scam artist with a Russian surname. It's pretty alright so far.
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>>25271743
Who is?
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>>25271789
I'm going to write a japanese xianxia because japanese names make sense and chinese don't then
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why can't western authors replicate japanese light novel sovl? i feel like western authors are too self-conscious with their writing sometimes and it isn't as self-indulging as japanese LNs.
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I don't like how most western webnovels have millennial style dialogue
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>>25271876
They do though. Most of the system apocalypse ones are just numbers go up sloppa
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>>25271899
well that just happened
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>>25271876
this is why i adore nowhere stars.
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>>25271876
>>25271899
I hope to never fall for these traps. I don't care if the premise is cringe, I want it treated seriously. The people want chuuni kino and fun power fantasies. They don't want to be beat over the head with snark and overplayed self-awareness.
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>>25271827
Japanese don't have dao
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>>25272047
my setting uses a fusion of shinto, daoism and eastern orthodoxy
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>>25271995
Correct. The #1 problem with westoids is they can't whole heartedly embrace anything. To write like the japanese you MUST love your loli, your edgy tryhard teenager, your gothbaba, whatever it is in your story you must love it for what it is.
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>>25271995
millenial irony made people allergic to the idea that something fun or entertaining can be self serious
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>>25271995
Speak for yourself. I want comedic chunni kinos, but they’re extremely few and far between. Eminence in Shadow comes out once every few years, Evil Lord and Death Flags haven’t been good for a long while, and Masked Monster is barely scratching my aura farming chunni itch.
I’m dying of hunger over here.
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That's it, I have the mandate of heaven. See you losers on Rising Stars.
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>>25272057
It's paradoxically because they have too much freedom.
An eastoid writing genre slop is already a disappointment to his family and community. There is no reason not to pour his heart onto the page
Westoids have a culture of "you can be anything you want" and then proceed to please others and appear "cool" and not "cringe" because they fear people seeing their true face.
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>>25272136
It can be comedic and still take itself seriously. Cid may think everything's a larp, but he doesn't take the wind out of scenes with a bland, misplaced quip. Basically, I'm just asking for a series to not break kayfabe.
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>>25272190
You should ask it to give its responses in the fashion of a stereotypical cultivator.
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Suggestions for an OP mage MC like in Saving the school would've been easier as a cafeteria worker? Preferably male MC.
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>>25272047
Onmyodo is just daoism in a silly hat.
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>in the gym
>overcome with inspiration to write like five different chapters and POVs of side characters in my winnie
>get home
>tired
>exhausted
>still want to write but no energy
>realize I'm massively sleep deprived and about to go to bed 5 hours early
Whelp. I guess tomorrow I'll write. Sigh...
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>>25272047
every culture has a different power system
open your chakra gates and WAKE UP
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>>25272343
What's the power system for 'Merica? Cryptids? Tall tales? Wealth/Pay-2-Win?
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>>25272348
>What's the power system for 'Merica?
Money and gunz, of course. Just that.
>cultivating = investing but there's inherently a risk of losing however much of your cultivation you put up every time you cultivate
>nepobabies out the wazoo
Actually there's room for a really good american stealth cultivation novel.

You could have an entire arc of foundation establishment that's just being a landlord and screening your tenants and evicting bad ones and enticing/coercing good ones to stay and keep paying rent
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>>25272348
>american mysticism
scientology based power system where you get stronger the more wealth you donate to aliens
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>>25272348
read the kabbalah
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>>25272348
experimental jewish shit + crowley shit
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>>25272343
>>25272348
Grand tournament with teams of six from each nation. Four are the strongest members of today under their respective systems, while the other two are the founder of the nation (Or the most capable of them depending on if there was more than one), and a spokesman who best embodies the philosophy of the nation.
America gets profit ascenders, Korea gets tower climbers, China gets cultivators, Japan gets isekaiees, and so on.
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>>25272329
>write like five different chapters and POVs of side characters in my winnie
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>>25272348
When you are asleep and you are dreaming and you are about to wake up, just don't wake up LMAO
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>>25272429
Why I drop reddit posts:
They are too fucking long and barely say anything of substance.
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>>25272514
BASED BREVITY CHAD
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>read the foot fetish coverart webnovel
>second chapter the protagonist puts her feet in water and gets tickled by fish
I didn't expect the genuine article. I thought it was just coombait
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>>25272429
>list of shit that happens in tradpub and not webnovels
reddit would be one of those sites flooded with AI posts
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Writing advice says that I should have an ending in mind before writing the story. I should also plan out the progression, but I fear that this will make the story feel boring to me and I probably won't continue writing it. How do I handle that? I want to discover the story as well!
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>>25272701
write the story with an ending in mind that you make a promise to change later
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>>25272701
If it feels boring, then it's boring. You should be glad to discover that before you start writing and not during it. Make it interesting.
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>>25272701
This is essentially what Stephen King does. He's notorious for shitty endings though.
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Reborn as a villainess in a world about to be destroyed?!
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you're about to reborn with my nuts in your mouth
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>>25272744
His short story where the guy kills the mobster that killed his wife had a good ending.
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>>25271513
Very short. Ideally one or two sentences max. I'm not joking, literally just write "Alice and Bob fought and after a long battle Alice beheaded Bob, but at the price of her right arm."
I always skim read fight scenes, they are never interesting and you always can guess the outcome. If they last multiple chapters I'll skip until the fight scene is over, and if the novel is dominated by them I'm dropping the novel.
Btw this extends to dungeon crawling, I'm not going to suffer through multiple chapters of fluff just for mc to obtain an item
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>>25272701
That's why it's called advice, not a hard rule. While most people work better writing to a plan, do what works best for you.
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>>25272703
This could actually work.
>>25272715
"Boring" doesn't quite articulate my full meaning. What I mean to say is that planning something out feels like doing it. Once I've planned something out the mind goes "ok, that's done" and loses interest in it. It's boring to my mind because it's a solved problem.
>>25272744
I wonder if he has always written like that. Ie can someone unskilled like me do that or do you have to be a grandmaster of writing (like him) to do it.
>>25271513
Either make the fight scenes short or make the fight scene itself tell a story with progression. The protagonist works towards a clear goal and succeeds, but something goes wrong. Do this cycle again, then build towards a climax, and settle it.

Book fight scenes are not like movies. The spectacle comes from things like aura farming and the reactions of characters, rather than cool fight choreography or impressive spells (unless the audience is anticipating the spell from before the fight scene).
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>>25272748
Reborn as the villainess but you're actually just a really cute boy and your parents dress you in girls clothes (actual thing in Europe) and the hunky prince wants your hand in marriage? Doushio?!
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>>25272546
>yuri
>feet
I know where this goes
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>>25272348
Same as the european one, internal alchemy
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>>25272822
So some guy used a bot to scrape my novel off Royal Road and he's uploading a broken version of it to his own website. My only question is: is this going to fuck up releasing on kindle unlimited? I was going to take my novel down, but I doubt this person will remove it at my request.
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>>25272701
What's wrong with discovering the story in the outline process?
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>>25272841
Yes this happens sometimes but you should be able to easily prove to Amazon the story is yours.
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>>25272847
That happens before writing it, so nothing?
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>>25272343
Then why are the japanese using chakras? Aren't chakras indian or something?
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>>25272841
send a dmca takedown request first to the guy, then to whoever owns the servers.
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>>25272841
Can you give the website name?
(You probably won't be able to post the url due to anti-spam.)
{I also don't need your specific story just the website.
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This is probably bad storytelling, but I love when a story casually speedruns years of the MC’s life in a single chapter, with the MC offhandedly info-dumping all the stuff he did during that time. Like:

After recovering the memories of my previous life, I threw myself into level grinding. I started with slimes outside town, then moved on to wolves and eventually the bandits lurking farther out.
I killed so many bandits that I ended up with an embarrassing nickname I’d never share, and the bandits would run away the moment they saw me coming (LOL). My Shadow Step skill allowed me to catch up to them easily enough, though, so hunting them down one by one and delivering the killing blow was never too much trouble. Although, seeing grown men three times my size cry while begging for their lives made my heart feel all itchy.
Have some pride, bandits! Grow a spine and fight back, bandits! You’d die either way, so at least go out with a bang! Or don’t. It didn’t really matter once I separated your heads from your bodies anyway (LOL).
After two years of doing this, I reached level 30, which was five levels higher than your average knight. Not bad for someone who hadn’t even enrolled in the Academy yet.

Then the next chapter switches to another POV, where some side character retells the same events in dramatic detail and turns the MC into this absolute aura-farming badass.
I’m a sucker for this feedback loop. It’s why I’ve started a ton of Japanese WNs but rarely stick with them once they settle into slice-of-life slop, and why I keep reading terrible xianxia novels that stopped being good a hundred chapters ago in the vain hope that the MC will finally stop wasting time on the ten-billionth side quest and start doing cool shit again.
That being said, if the initial info dump isn’t casual and fast-paced enough, or if the alternate POV doesn’t glaze the MC hard enough, then the whole thing falls apart. Looking at you, Western OPMCs.
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>>25272889
If that's Eminence in Shadow, then that only works because of the nature of the story, that being to parody isekai tropes, so his rebirth and adaptation to the world is hardly relevant.

Any serious story with that start would be terrible because they're skipping the most important parts of world and character building.
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>>25272889
I only like this if we have made an emotional connection with the MC first.
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>>25272889
>>25272901
Better tobjust cut the middleman and start out with the protagonist already experienced and badass, simply dripfeed his backstory along the way.
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where do you even publish your stories when you're not a fantasycuck? every fucking website caters only to them nowadays
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>>25272960
just publish them anyway? who cares about views
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>>25272955
Westerners really don’t understand the appeal of contrast.
The point isn’t seeing the MC being a badass. That’s only part of it. It’s seeing how much of a difference there is between how he sees himself and how the world sees him.
Think of it this way: it’s like a jaded firefighter saying, “Yeah, I went and stopped this house fire. It’s routine, really.”
To him, what he did was just a job so he didn’t put too much thought into narrating it. Hell, he probably won’t remember much of it after a couple of months. But from the POVs of the people he had saved, it was a life-changing event so they are going to view things much differently.
To put it another way: it’s gap moe, but for narrative.
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>>25272965
>who cares about views
Basically everyone here. Why the fuck would you be writing if you didn't want anyone to see it? Why would you have a conversation about your non-writing here if you didn't care if someone saw it?
Fucking crab logic.
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>>25272983
I just want to get a story out there and share it with likeminded people who share my overly narrow interests. Whether its 1 or 100000, I don't care.
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>>25273009
>and share it with likeminded people
Yes, you do care about views.
You do care if it is 1 or 100000.
If it was one, that view would be, potentially and unlikely 1 like minded person.
Your odds increase as the number of views increase. To share it with like minded "people", plural, you would require at least 2 unique views.
You have no real knowledge if those 2 views are 2 people, 2 bots, 2 sweatshop workers in china harvesting you data to train deepseek r4, 2 people jacking off together in your garage, 2 people who want to see you die and are stalking your content and laughing at you behind your back.
>people
...like you can't even critically think anymore.
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>>25273018
>degree isn't a significant quality of distinction
retard
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>>25273065
not a real arguement
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>>25272800
>reincarnation setting where both the super-hero and the super-villain are perpetually reincarnated in different bodies/lives through cycles and they are fated to battle each other to please gods/society/whatever
>fate dictates that each reincarnation the super-hero is to be born as a lowly commoner to progress to an epic hero-boy and the super-villain is some tyrannical ruler or roided psychopathic misanthrope destined to be defeated by the hero or else the world will end or something
>but this time, the super-hero ends up being a hot chick from an already super rich prestigious militaristic family, she (and the rest of society) thinks “wow if i’m the lowly commoner in this cycle then my destined villain must be super duper evil” etc, trains extra hard her whole life to compensate
>the whole economy during her lifetime is funnelled into her training to make sure she can defeat whoever this tyrannical monstrous figure ends up being
>this kind of turns her into a dommy spoiled brat, expecting everything to be given to her on a whim her whole life
>villain is still nowhere to be found, society gets increasingly nervous/apocalyptic as the years of this cycle go by, wondering just how powerful this villain must be, hot girl ends up forgetting about training hard and just leverages her destiny to toy with others and get whatever she wants
>turns out fate simply got its wires crossed on the whole lowly protagonist/tyrannical villain thing
>because the super-villain ends up being some shy dorky loser sweetheart who is too busy being pampered by his own family to try to take over the world, maybe they dress him up as a girl if ur into that sort of thing, from the moment he found out about his villainhood he has kept it secret from everyone since it’s not really his thing and the whole world seems particularly set on making sure the villain is super dead and buried this time
>when they finally meet the loser finds her glamorous and spends every waking moment hoping she won’t slay him to fulfil her destiny and the hot hero girl finds him pitiful but cute
>their ultimate confrontation ends up being closer to an awkward date, society is rearing for an epic battle after all this investment but it obviously can’t happen, they both probably go into hiding and try to keep up the illusion that some extra-spatial battle is taking place that is too epic for anybody to witness, she probably imprisons him at some point, lop-sided power dynamics ensue
has it been done
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>>25273018
>y-yes you do
not an argument
Most of my subject matter isn't really "thousands of views" material anyway
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>>25273077
I accept your concession
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What concession?
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The Archmage Coefficient by onedayokay was kinda fun for a bit, but now it's just shit.
thoughts?
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>>25273092
Worldbuilding is kinda meh; author didn't think of the consequences of making it so only 75 in the world are master+; seems like every master is kinda pathetic and get no respect. Also, a lot of random things thrown together with no cohesion, like elves and trolls out of nowhere.
Besides, half of the story depends on 1-in-a-million events happening every other chapter.
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Wholesome slop
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>>25272965
virtue signaler
even you dont believe this, you just like how it sounds
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>>25273074
Garbage goon shit.
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>>25273090
Random newfag buzzword commentary is generally RIfag's narcissism acting up because he believes he needs to respond to each and every single thing somebody talks about.
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>read 150 chapters in just 2 days
I can't believe I just read 150 chapters of the protagonist aura farming non-stop.
This shit is addictive.
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>>25273281
This shit is shit.
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What do you guys do whilst listening to a web novel? If I'm walking or at the gym it's killing two irds with one stone, if I'm at home I can't do much.
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What would Spectral Soul do?



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