How does supposing the existence of a god (a necessary being) tell us anything about morality? How can you derive what is good from this fact or any moral proposition e.g. murder is wrong?Giving attributes to god beyond his existence also tells us nothing. We ask: "What is good?" and the response is: "god is good". They know god is good, but what this means they cannot say.And the bible is merely a collection of human opinions, which cannot be shown to come from god.
>THE EXISTENCE OF GOD TELLS US NOTHING ABOUT MORALITY>what is natural lawI swear you atheshits and your sophistry.
the bible is not merely a collection of human opinions, its considered a word of god by christians
>>25273560Funny how God condemns murder then has the Israelites kill every man woman and child and take their land. Unless... you pick and choose what to believe in the bible?
>>25273386This thread is redundant, >>25272203 is still up in the catalog
That’s right. As an article of faith it cannot be shown, it is known precisely in and by its occultation. Every prayer traverses the doubt of silence. But He always answers.
>>25273718Got it jidf, what else?
>>25273814A well thought out rebuttal to be expected of such intellectuals
>>25273821You won jidf
>>25273826How's things in iran?
>>25273560Natural law is utter nonsense. And indeed, as some advocates of natural law such as Grotius or Bellarmine say, god is not required even for natural law."Like a harlot, natural law is at the disposal of everyone. The ideology does not exist that cannot be defended by an appeal to the law of nature. And, indeed, how can it be otherwise, since the ultimate basis for every natural right lies in a private direct insight, an evident contemplation, an intuition. Cannot my intuition be just as good as yours? Evidence as a criterion of truth explains the utterly arbitrary character of the metaphysical assertions. It raises them up above any force of inter-subjective control and opens the door wide to unrestricted invention and dogmatics" - Alf Ross, On Law and Justice.
>>25273710They may consider it whatever they like, but it remains human opinion.
>>25273721That is more of an ontolgical question whereas this is an epistemological or logical one
>>25273386The concept of morality is so subjective as to be meaningless.Morality today is nothing more than a fashion. Everyone likes to be seen wearing the latest morals.