Was he correct? Why did almost all of the great American and European writers prior to WW2 dislike Jews?"The Jew an eternal defender of Justice? Bunk! Jews have always crybabied about Justice, but what they want is Justice for themselves -- a special and particularly pro-Jewish Justice. That's not Justice!""The Jew maintains his religious dogmas and his racial sympathies, race characteristics, and race cohesion as against all the types or nationalities surrounding him wheresoever.""Apart from what I said to the group representing the new Masses, I have not changed my viewpoint in regard to the Jewish programme in America. They do not blend as do the other elements in this Country, but retain as they retain in all countries, their race solidarity and even their religion -- here particularly...You saw one result of their peculiar race drift in their management of the Movies in this Country.”"The movies are solidly Jewish. They’ve dug in, employ only Jews with American names and buy only what they cannot abstract & disguise. And the dollar sign is the guide -- mentally & physically. That America should be led -- the mass -- by this direction is beyond all believing. In addition they are arrogant, insolent, and contemptuous.""They are not the day laborers of the world -- pick and shovel; they are by preference lawyers, bankers, merchants, money-lenders and brokers, and middlemen. If you listen to Jews discuss Jews, you will find that they are money-minded, very pagan, very sharp in practice, and, usually, in so far as the rest is concerned, they have the single objective of plenty of money.”"You [Jews] want to be everywhere like gypsies. You want to be a race which envelops the earth. You’d like to have your fingers in every pie.""Jews are neurotically conscious of opposition."“And your great Jewish banking firms. Don’t they move the wheels of commerce today?” Dreiser also described New York as "a scream -- a Kyke’s dream of a ghetto. The lost tribe has taken the island."
>>25275941One of my favorite American Socialists. Wish he was read more.
>>25275949His novels are epic. An American Tragedy is well over 1,000 pages.
>please stop robbing us when we deal with you in good faith and please stop expelling us and confining us to the ghetto>my god! This jew wants a special justice just for him!Even Shakespeare knew this was fucked up.
>>25275941Classic Goy. The Jew is too weak to consider yet too powerful to confront.
>>25275999>when we deal with you in good faith>in good faith"This may sound mean, Mr. Francis, but I have had too many dealings with Jews, and millionaire Jews, too, in the theatrical business, to trust one of them any farther than I could throw your store with my little finger."- Eugene O'Neill
>>25276018>gossip>hearsay>>from men of the “theater” no less“…with the many I have nothing to do, and do not even address myself to them.”—Socrates
>>25276021"The Jews could be put down very plausibly as the most unpleasant race ever heard of. As commonly encountered, they lack many of the qualities that mark the civilized man: courage, dignity, incorruptibility, ease, confidence. They have vanity without pride, voluptuousness without taste, and learning without wisdom...The case against the Jews is long and damning; it would justify ten thousand times as many pogroms as now go on in the world."-- HL Mencken, scourge of democracy and the masses
>>25275941Sounds accurate, yes
>>25276021>worldly perspective>from one of the greatest writers in American history
>>25275941A leter from ee cummings to Ezra Pound:"DEAR EZRA—whole, round, and heartiest greetings from the princess & me to our favorite Ikey-Kikey, Wandering Jew, Quo Vadis,Oppressed Minority Of one, Misunderstood Master, Mister Lonelyheart, and Man Without A Countryre whose latest queeries East Maxman has gone off on a c-nd-m in a pamphlet arguing everybody should support Wussia, for the nonce. “Time” (a loose) mag says Don Josh Bathos of London England told P.E.N. innulluxuls that for the nonce writers shouldn’t be writing. Each collective choisi(pastparticiple,you recall,of choisir)without exception and—may I add—very naturally desires for the nonce nothing but Adolph’s Absolute Annihilation, Coûte Que Coûte (SIC). A man who once became worshipped of one thousand million pibbul by not falling into the ocean while simultaneously peeping through a periscope and sucking drugstore sandwiches is excoriated for,for the nonce,freedom of speech.""how well I understand the hater of Jews!""The Hebraic they -- it permeates everything, like a gas or a smell. It has no pride -- any more than a snake has legs. Above all:it is low--- this heavy,hateful shut something crushes-by-strangling whatever isn’t it ... makes any quick bright beautiful beginning impossible -- stops inspiration just as the spirit’s lungs are opening:for it cannot endure free,loving,gay; its own imprisoning pain perpetually must revenge itself on every soaring winged singful bird! ..."
>>25276201ee cummings also wrote the following poem:"a kike is the most dangerousmachine as yet inventedby even yankee ingenuity(out of a jew a fewdead dollars and some twisted laws)it comes both pricked and cunted"
>>25276052>blatant genocidalismAt least we know how much of an impact education has made on you.
>>25276142>>25276201>AmericansNeed we say more?
They’re just dumping the most anti semitic shock jock quotes they can find. They’re scared, because they’re losing badly in every thread on this board that has intellectual merit.
>>25276223>>Americans>Need we say more?lmao, Europeans were even more brutal towards Jew. I really don't think you want to go there..."The Jews...have turned into enemies of humanity, rejecting everyone except themselves, and now really remain the bearers of the anti-Christ, and, of course, will be triumphant for a while. This is so obvious that you can't even argue about it: they are forcing their way in, they are coming, they have filled all of Europe: everything selfish, everything inimical to humanity, all of mankind's evil passions are for them -- how could they not triumph to the world's ruin."-- Fyodor Dostoevsky
>>25276226"I begin to understand French anti-Semitism when I see how many Jews of Polish origin and German names intrude themselves everywhere."-- Friedrich Engels
>>25276221>>blatant genocidalismIsn't this what Israel has done over the last few years?"Now, how would it be if in Russia there were not three million Jews, but three million Russians, and there were eighty million Jews -- well, into what would they convert the Russians and how would they treat them? Would they permit them to acquire equal rights? Would they permit them to worship freely in their midst? Wouldn’t they convert them into slaves? Worse than that: wouldn’t they skin them altogether? Wouldn’t they slaughter them to the last man, to the point of complete extermination, as they used to do with aliens in ancient times, during their ancient history?""I know that in the whole world there is certainly no other people who would be complaining as much about their lot, incessantly, after each step and word of theirs -- about their humiliation, their suffering, their martyrdom. One might think it is not they who are reigning in Europe, who are directing there at least the stock exchanges and, therefore, politics, domestic affairs, the morality of the states.""Ask the native population in our border regions: What is propelling the Jew — and has been propelling him for centuries? You will receive a unanimous answer: mercilessness. ‘He has been prompted so many centuries only by pitilessness to us, only by the thirst for our sweat and blood.’""And, in truth, the whole activity of the Jews in these border regions of ours consisted of rendering the native population as much as possible inescapably dependent on them, taking advantage of the local laws. They have always managed to be on friendly terms with those upon whom the people were dependent. Point to any other tribe from among Russian aliens which could rival the Jew by his dreadful influence in this connection! You will find no such tribe. In this respect the Jew preserves all his originality as compared with other Russian aliens, and of course, the reason therefore is that status of statu of his, that spirit of which specifically breathes pitilessness for everything that is not Jew, with disrespect for any people and tribe, for every human creature who is not a Jew..."-- Fyodor Dostoevsky
>>25276223I hate Americans as much as anybody but you‘d have to have your head in the sand not to allow that we‘ve had a handful of exceptional talents.
>>25276052love that last sentence
>>25275941Sure I'm pro Epstein but when the goy is right, the goy is right
>>25276221"Lovely conspiracy to organize: for the extermination of the Jewish race!"-- Charles Baudelairehttps://www.jstor.org/stable/463256
>>25276223"I've finally worked out why I don't like America...Because everyone there is either a Jew or a hick."-- Kingsley Amis
>>25275941He's right.Just look at Sontag writing that White people are cancer and ruined humanity, only to add multiple paragraphs on why being jewish is quirky and extraordinary into her essays.
>>25276397Perspicacious writers noticed what was going very early.Here's PG Wodehouse:"A curious thing about American books these days is that so many of them are Jewish propaganda. Notice in [Norman Mailer’s] “The Naked and the Dead” how the only decent character is Goldstein. [Irwin Shaw’s] “The Young Lions” is the same. It is a curious trend. The Jews have suddenly become terrifically vocal. Did you see that picture, ‘Gentleman’s Agreement?’"In his 1930s story “The Rise of Minna Nordstrom,” Wodehouse parodies Hollywood titans such as his employer Louis B. Mayer, by inventing Jacob Z. Schnellenhamer’s Perfecto-Zizzbaum Corporation, the result of a merger of the entertainment giants Colossal-Exquisite company, Isadore Fishbein’s Perfecto-Fishbein, and Ben Zizzbaum’s Zizzbaum-Celluloid. These entities founded by businessmen with Jewish-sounding names amount to mild mockery. Yet Wodehouse felt genuine ire about Mayer’s success. In June 1931, Wodehouse told the Los Angeles Times that he was overpaid and underworked in Hollywood. When this caused some controversy, Wodehouse wrote to a friend:"The trouble is, you see, all these Jews out here have been having a gorgeous time for years, fooling about with the shareholders’ money and giving all their relations fat jobs, and this gives the bankers an excuse for demanding a showdown. Well, if [the interview] results in Mr. Louis B. Mayer having to cut his salary (which at present is a snappy eight hundred thousand dollars a year), I shall feel I have done my bit.""One odd thing about television is the way it shows people up. I always used to think Groucho Marx screamingly funny. I saw him on television the other night, and he was just a middle-aged Jew with no geniality whatever, in fact repulsive."
>>25275941I feel like making sweeping generalizations about millions of people you've never met based on an accident of birth that may mean very little or nothing to them is foolishness. People should be judged as individuals for their own actions.I don't like when some retarded black activist tells me that all white people are X. Do you?
>>25276447Most of the great literary and philosophical minds disagree with you. And I could not care less about what blacks think of me. They could say "all yt people are evil colonizers who can't dance and have bad food" and I would laugh at them because we all know which race is more successful.
It’s almost like across all dimensions of time and space, under any and all conditions, living among any and all peoples, their behavior has been consistently selfish, rapacious, disgusting and evil. They’ve been so consistent for so long I don’t think we can blame them any longer. If you let them I to your country you did it to yourself.
>>25276447I agree with you but the problem is the overwhelming historical evidence says they are incapable of that kind of civilized behavior. They refuse, or are biologically incapable of, treating non jews the same way. They are pathologically tribal and if you are to let them live among you everyone needs to understand how they are playing the game. How do you not see this?
>>25276447A generalization is a generalization, which is a separate thing from being wrong. A group is not the set of all individuals belonging to it.
>>25276490that's rubbish
>>25276503Generalizations matter at the societal level.
>>25276503>>25276447Jews have no problems with generalization when they feel like the generalizations are positive. They constantly boast about their smarts, their Nobel prizes, etc. Only when a Gentile points out their negative traits do they kvetch.
>>25276435BASED noticer Wodehouse
>>25276604again, you're generalizing about millions of people you've never met and know nothing about
>>25275999Even Harold Bloom who worshipped Shakespeare as a demi-god thought "The Merchant of Venice" was an antisemitic work
>>25276741You didn't address anon's point, which is that Jews generalize about themselves and about Gentiles all the time but get mad when Gentiles generalize about Jews.
>>25275941>The Jew maintains his religious dogmas and his racial sympathies, race characteristics, and race cohesion as against all the types or nationalities surrounding him wheresoever."Interesting. Bauer came to the same conclusions and decided that Jews should leave their religion or at least stop practicing it to become one with the German populations. Marx pretty much refuted that,
>>25276744This is generalization.
>>25276757>Marx pretty much refuted that,No, he didnt.>>25276762You still didn't address the point, which is that Jews generalize about themselves and about Gentiles all the time but get mad when Gentiles generalize about Jews.
>>25276762>>25276741>>25276757>>25276503>>25276447This is what you sound like right now.As TS Eliot remarked: "Reasons of race and religion combine to make any large number of free-thinking Jews undesirable."
May have been accurate in the past but nowadays Jews are very well integrated into American society, have high intermarriage rates, are physically indistinguishable from any other white group, and are often employed in productive enterprises, not just finance. For some examples of the last point we can cite the number of Jews working in research science and academia, the Jews who built the atomic bomb that allowed America to win the war, the Jews who built Google, Facebook, OpenAI, etc..
>>25276810>Jews are very well integrated into American society>are physically indistinguishable from any other white groupYou really think we believe this bullshit?
>>25276824I don't know if you believe it since I can't access your mind, but I do.
>>25276810>>25276829>>25276757Between this rubbish and all the Marxist threads lately, it's obvious there's some kind of raid/infiltration going on here.
>>25276834LOL, OK newfag. Lit has always had Marxist threads ever since I've been here (over 5 years).
>>25276810>Jews are very well integrated into American societyYeah! As we all know, 95% of American Jews feel no connection whatsoever to the state of Israel and dual loyalty isn't an issue and they don't have any lobbies with outsized influence such as AIPAC and Trump launched a war with Iran for reasons that have nothing to do with the preferences of American Jews!"Where any set of men, scattered over distant nations, maintain a close society or communication together, they acquire a similitude of manners, and have but little in common with the nations amongst whom they live. Thus the JEWS in EUROPE, and the ARMENIANS in the east, have a peculiar character; and the former are as much noted for fraud, as the latter for probity."-- David Hume
>>25276298Dostoy cooking as usual
>>25276490You'll notice he didn't give you a proper answer, lol
>>25275941>Why did almost all of the great American and European writers prior to WW2 dislike Jews?The simple reason is that society was still largely Christian to an extent and Judaism relies on a blind stubborness to denying Jesus Christ that has no evidence, backing, or reason. Judaism is a cult built around denying Jesus Christ. They had dozens of prophets and biblical books for 1,200 years (Moses - Christ) and zero for 2,000 at the exat moment of Christ. All reformed Jews basically know it's total bunk but stick along because of stigma, fear, and tradition. Largely, orthodox and hasidic Jews maintain their beliefs because they're totally isolated and also quite consistently undereducated. The point I'm making is that Judaism works in cult-like isolation and melts into reformed Judaism, which is Christianity-lite, the second Jewish people integrate. The issue too is that it's just rare for people to convert in general so most Jews in America are de facto Christian but quite stuck in being anti-Christs because their family will somehow or way shun or resent them converting. You see this is "half Jewish" people, where they are much more likely to convert and especially if they marry a non-Jewish person too. At any rate, Jewish hatred pre-WW2 commonly expressed this frustration that integrated Jews persist in a delusional, hollowed out religion and non-integrated are in a cult.
>>itt: seething pagans jealous of the one true untainted monotheismYou’d rather make an idol of a rabbi then recognize in Rome your true enemy. Dump a few more block quotes from… science fiction writers of questionable breeding. Decaying aristocratic bloodlines always point the finger at the Jews who funded their medieval adventures.
>>25276490>[racism] because [I am racist]>How do you not see this?Not an argument.
>>25277135> You see this is "half Jewish" people, where they are much more likely to convert and especially if they marry a non-Jewish person too.Yes let’s trust the unsupported testimony of a seething anti semite about the cultural practice of Jews. Your ass is utterly btfo. Get back to your containment board. Or do you not like being shoved into a concentration camp with your fellow whites?
>muh raid>muh infiltration You are mentally fragile and spiritually cattle. No wonder all your movements are propped up by feds because you’re all mentally weak losers incapable of praxis, just crying on twitter about being the master race who is oppressed by some spooky Big Other of the inferior race who controls everything. Sour grapes ideology. Explains why you all look like chudjaks and eventually convicted of possession of CP
>>25277168>infiltration and propaganda is only effective when I do it>when you win it shows you’re weak, when I lose it shows I’m strongSo why don’t you get started? Lmao.
>>25277168If online postings don’t matter maybe you should stop making them? Wouldn’t that be the wise thing to do?
>>25277160>a seething anti semiteI love Jewish people. I'd rather live, work, and be around Jewish people than a lot of other races and religions. My issue is with Judaism as a religion. Saying Judaism is at this point a delusional religion is not even close to anti-semitism. Judaism can't even agree on the canon of the Bible and Orthodox and Hasidics believe the Old Testament was written by Moses dictated directly by God. Manuscripts show this is delusional.>Or do you not like being shoved into a concentration camp with your fellow whites?You're making this racial and about a historical moment that I don't celebrate. It's not. Nazis are loathsome pagans and worse than Jews. The people here are saying, "Jews like money and are mean bad people." I'm calling them part of a religion that is ultimately on it's face absurd.
>>25277221>im not an anti semite i just think they’re all delusional retards based on my vague caricatures of the diverse movements of modern jewry>I don’t hate jews I just wish they weren’t all schizophrenic neuroticsI’m not ignorant to the history and purpose of these so called rational disputations.
>>25277226>I’m not ignorant to the history and purpose of these so called rational disputations.My purpose is that every single Jewish person converts to the Catholic Faith. What's your purpose in calling me an anti-semite? You know that it's false but you keep on keeping on. Do you believe in Lamarkian evolution and generational trauma? I think it's likely that Jewish people do literally suffer from deeply ingrained trauma from sucxessive pogroms. That doesn't make Judaism true nor Christianity false.
>>judaism is “delusional” because of Christ>>pay no attention to the church fathers’ Neoplatonism nor the Roman’s’ obvious political interestsIdeology for thee and not for me, is it?
>>25277229Sorry bud I don’t need the intermediation of 10,000 ghosts to speak to God.
>>25277226>>25277229Judaism can only be analyzed by vague generalities because it has no doctrinal center. It basically is contradicted in itself. It's at once a racial category and a religion bit it's really truly neither. Matrilinear descendants is post-second Temple cope and fictitious and the total lack of a high priest, ongoing prophetic tradition, and really any claim of continuing revelation just destroys Judaism's claims. Mormons are very nice and Joseph Smith wasn't a prophet of God.
>>25277231Nor do I to eat Him.
>>25277233Utter cope to deny the obvious factual survival of a rich literary tradition. So much for the “people of the book” !
>>25277234But you do pray to idols for intercession. So there’s that. Pentecostals have more merit.
>>25277235>rich literary traditionJews are immense supporters of literature and for that I'm deeply thankful but to say that the biblical tradition is strictly literary would make you a heretic by hasidic or orthodox standards. This is complicated by the fact that those standards are totally contradicted and also wrong.
>>25277237You don't pray to the statues; you pray using them as instruments to devotion. A lot of anti-Catholicism is actually laundered old school Protestant propaganda, who are much more anti-semitic than Catholics.
>>25277238I didn’t say that. The point is that you cling to your racist definitions of Judaism to deny what it actually is, what it has actually subsisted on.
>>25277239I’m familiar with the efforts of gentiles to portray statue-praying as something other than idolatry. Witness the Danish theologians attempts to locate a statue to YHWH in the first temple. It is very hard, I know, to imagine a pure, aniconic religion devoted to the One and Only God.
>>25277240>Judaism to deny what it actually is, what it has actually subsisted on.God likely sustains the Jewish people; I'd be okay with that language. Does God want them to be Catholic more than to be Jewish? Well, does God want people to eat Him? He commands us to in Scripture.
>>25277246>idolatryLook at the Aeneid. The statues are literally their gods. They "capture the gods" at some point. You could capture my crucifix and you wouldn't steal God.
>>25277248You think you know what God wants?The rabbis wisely interpret the Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh to mean “it is none of your concern.”
>>25277252>You think you know what God wants?He told us! That point re-rabbis MIGHT be a fine interpretation but I don't think it's His ultimate goal given He does answer the question.
>>25277250If you speak truly then we should at least be able to acknowledge our common enemy, who still sows discord in our midst. I am always open to theological debate but gentiles rarely rest at a broken lance, I find they often want conversion or worse.
>>25277257Oh trust me I'm anti-paganism more than anti-Judaism. Jews have culture, vibrancy, and often within the more devout sects a lot of wisdom. Look up St. Boniface and the German's tree. The problem ultimately is that the Church hasn't made clear that prophetic tradition was continue in Her Ecumenical Councils. They continue to this day.
extensive damage control ITT lol. get a leash on your dogs
>>25277269I don't trust anyone who capitalizes jews or judaism. They are either jidf or pajeets.
>>25276834Marx was right though. History proved him right. The state of this website proved him right on the jewish question
>>25277308Perhaps a muzzle as well.
>>25275941>Theodore Dreiser>>Theodore Dreiser's books are enough to stop me in my tracks, never mind his letters—that slovenly turgid style describing endless business deals, with a seduction every hundred pages as light relief. If he's the great American novelist, give me the Marx Brothers every time.Are these the Marxists you're so worried about? lol.
>>25276858Yeah just like Irish Americans smuggled arms to the IRA during the '70s. Nobody would claim on that basis that Irish aren't integrated.
>>25277357Well you'd be wrong. When we force all the jews into honest labour camps by 2030 we're shipping all these corrupt potata micks back to the isles. they can kiss my blarney stones
>>25277478I’ll take fries with that
>>25277337>Reposting a BRIAN BURKS book reviewYeah, I'm sure we care a lot about the opinion of some fat southern hick who became a sex pest in Taiwan.>>25277135This was maybe true up until the 18th century, but afterwards the basis for antisemitism became more and more secular and is a reaction to the behavior of "emancipated' secular Jews.>>25277357You hasbarists aren't even trying. Irish-Americans don't have powerful lobbying groups demanding that America fight Ireland's wars for them or censoring people for anti-Irish sentiment.>>25276226>>25277154>>25277160>>25277168I can tell these are all Jewish shills because the actual Marxists/leftists on social media talk about Jews in the same way Dreiser does these days because they can see how Israel behaves and how complicit most American Jews are.
