With the rise of certain religious attitudes in the US, particularly attitudes dragging the country into a holy war which huge sects of religious people believe will bring the end times and the return of Jesus, are we ripe for a New Atheist revival? It seems the circumstances that facilitated their rise in the 2000s are recurring again. And will this be a revival of the actual 4 horsemen, or will a new set of religious critics emerge for a new generation of people fed up with the negative influence religion has on the direction of society?
>>25276584the only holy war people want to fight is to annihilate the epstein class
>>25276624Tell that to Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham and the new leadership of TPUSA.
>>25276584The state of the world with people lacking agency and community, it's more likely that a quasi-religious or spiritual movement will take hold of people rather than atheism which has a bad reputation due to Reddit et al
>>25276584This idiot tried to argue that Balkan wars were a religious battle between muslims and Christians. And India go partitioned because the Hindu elites weren't willing to compromise with muslims.
It's honestly amazing how short-lived the trad movement was. People remembered how annoying conservative evangelicals and Catholics were, and now we're going to see the backlash.
>>25277466Religion shouldnt be tied to any political party. I usually vote red, but the orange man is so retarded that I just cant keep voting red this time
>>25276584John Gray pushes back on people like Hitchens, even though Gray is also an atheist himself, but attacks Harris, Hitchens for essentially pushing the same Christian doctrines of redemption despite considering themselves opposed to it. whether you're atheist or religious, people should read picrel instead of the trash in the OP to get what atheists are actually pushing. I'm reading it right and a lot of it kind of makes sense.
>>25277504>surely the democrats will fix the problem this time!>democrats fuck up>surely the republicans will fix the problem this time!>republicans fuck uprinse, repeat. you are so naive.
>>25277393I dunno if Hitchens is aware, but a lot of it was also racial too, but that's a sore subject for people like him.
>>25277516I just want a stop to whatever the fuck king miga is doing. I would be really surprised if the dems started to play along with that nonsense too. Its not lost on me how broken the american voting system is.
>>25277518Well I'm sure he thinks racism is bad tooWhat needs to be pointed out is how much damage the secular and liberal regimes have done over the last century. The 20th century was the great epoch of his type of government and it was a bloodbath
>I have rendered the name of your supreme being with a lowercase letter. The argument is mine.This is the peak of intellectual horsepower achieved by the Anglo
>>25277691Better than blotting it out like the jews do
>>25277793That triggers me honestly. I get the urge to punch one when it happens.
>>25277552The whole "no kings" thing is retarded how do Americans like myself even know anything about being ruled by a king. Sure, there was King George but no one alive lived under him. Its retarded. I mean, have we even tried it yet, as a treat?
>>25276584I put the fear of God in Christopher Hitchens, put feminist bitches in kitchens and make vegans live off of chicken and chitlins.
>>25277925This nigga throwin' down bars
Yeah more like New Autism
>>25277962How does it differ from Old Autism?
>>25277964It doesn't, not really.
>>25277965How would you even know?
>>25277388I don't know man, it's not like atheism had a great reputation in the 2000s either, it's just that religious zealots in government were so obnoxiously and diabolically aggressive with their holy wars that more and more of the population connected the dots and rejected the whole method of thinking that produced such bad fruit.
>>25277511This seems a bit disingenuous, especially because people like Hitchens deliberately emphasized that his worldview includes the full comprehension of how narrow the scope of human understanding is, that there is always a huge amount to learn, that he explicitly lived his life as if he were on the edge of a great new harvest of knowledge and that one should never think they had the final answer for sure. Adhering to this worldview is distinct from religious dogma on a fundamental level. It's weird, some people hear a strident tone of voice and just assume it's from a place of dogma. You can passionately argue in favor of skepticism while maintaining a skepticism of your own position.
>>25277553No it wasn't. The Catholic Church endorsed literally every fascist government in Europe through the 20th century from German to Italy to Spain etc. Also, Stalin made a cult of personality around himself, having icons of himself made with a halo around his head and he played off the old belief that the Tsar was akin to a demi-god, that he was superhuman, this can hardly be called "secular".
>>25278267In all fairness, state atheism mostly has a poor track record too. Now I'm aware a lot of modern atheists tend to be in the libertarian camp but actual existing nations which had a moratorium on atheism often were poor, nasty and miserable. The truth of the matter is that no government is liable to fix the human condition and we need to stop pretending that's what politics and religion is supposed to do. We always need governments as long as we have civilization and people are always going to have faith in something, but until we die as a species, its we that we have to deal with on our own terms.
Anyone read The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism as a lens to analyze modern American Christianity? I was kind of floored at how well Weber predicted things like health and wealth preachers and how Evangelicals are more focused on the Old Testament and essentially become Jews with extra steps.
>>25278281That's why a godless constitution and a secular state is so important. Allow people to adhere to whatever politics and religion they choose, but keep government and the guiding document of the nation totally neutral except in regard to preserving this universal freedom. Notice too that a secular state is entirely different from an atheist state, the secular state being manifestly preferable.
