Do they exist? Logically, most pessimist and anti-natalist tenets are true. Consciousness is a burden, to be born is to be unwillingly thrust into a lifetime of suffering, and everything alive is dying. However, this line of thinking is gay and I am sick of it
>>25277640Nietzsche. The point being to find a way to accept pessimist premises and nevertheless say "yes" to life - like the Greeks did, in Nietzsche's estimation
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>>25277640Rust Cole in the end of True Detective S1. Sorry it's not /lit/
>>25277640I am trying to find it too. I have noticed throughout different books a certain similarity in the concept of "flowing". It is how I can best describe it. It sounds like Taoism to me, so I will try Taoism next. I have the Dao De Jing, but it seems too broad in its message. Will try Zhuanghzi and something complimentary next (maybe Butterfly as Companion or something from Fabrizio Pregadio). But the similarity I have mentioned is basically: Meister Eckharts Abgeschiedenheit, aspects of Novalis Magical Idealism, Stoics Logos, obviously aspect of Zen Buddhism as told by Evolas in his DoA.
>>25277640>Logically, most pessimist and anti-natalist tenets are true.No, they're not. Since you started off with false premises, I refuse to answer your question. Good luck.
>>25277640Why are the logically true? Which law of classical logic implies that?
>>25277645Nietzsche just ends up coming back to Buddhism. Might as well read the Doctrine of Awakening.
this Kierkegaard compilation
>>25277640>Logically, most pessimist and anti-natalist tenets are trueThey are 99% true, yeah.
>>25278161In what universe? Do you think its a net positive to live in a post-human world? That's the same kind of Enlightenment idiocy thats been peddled from Malthus to Kurzweil.
>>25277888NTA butScenario A (X exists) 1. Presence of pain (Bad) 2. Presence of pleasure (Good) Scenario B (X never exists)3. Absence of pain (Good)4. Absence of pleasure (Not bad)The chances of having been born Indian is too high
>>25278407>The chances of having been born Indian is too highGlad to know that the pain and negativity anti-natalists project on this world is an entirely imagine aspect of their own failures of personality.
>>25278407If you haven't experienced rapturous pleasure that makes all the pain worth it then you basically aren't alive anyway
>>25277640Yeah Christianity, Buddhism, Zen, etc.
>>25277640>Do they exist?If i told you about it, you would tell me to fuck off. But if you dropped the "le demoralized faggot christcuck" and were set to find the truth, you would find it eventually, and feel the same. Don't waste our time just because you don't care about your own. >this line of thinking is gay and I am sick of itYeah, sure.
Pagan debauchery usually helps allay these sorts of thoughts. Eat bread! Drink wine!
>>25277640>LogicallyYou don't have a clue what that word means. You have never put together a coherent thought in your life and never will.
>>25277640I just made a similar thread and it seems to have received recommendations that are more suited to your OP question that the replies in this thread (no offense guys)/lit/thread/25278796/
>>25278921I messed that up, let me try again>>25278796
>>25278921The Nietzsche anon gets it. You cannot be a real optimist without genuinely engaging with and arguing against pessimist/anti-natalist tenets. Otherwise you're just living life encased in a cocoon of repression and distraction, too soft to face the hard facts of existence.If anything, exposing yourself to the absurdity of being alive without any defense mechanisms and affirming life in spite of it is more admirable than the alternatives. I'm fascinated by the idea of the eternal return, of knowing that everything will end yet still going out to affirm life in spite of that. Love and ambition become even more noble in that context
>>25277775"Tha light is winnin" is not optimistic philosophy, its a terrible asspull that Ligotti himself predicted in the book that inspired the series.
>>25277640Read: On the Consolation of PhilosophyBook by Anicius Manlius T S Boethius.
