Dunno why people hate it so much, first time reading it in maybe ten years or more and its a page-turner.
>>25278082Trannies hate it
I got filtered by the seemingly pointless romantic element as a child.
>>25278082It's popular so contrarians have to dislike it.
>>25278082Orwell and Huxley aren't good people
People hate it? I thought it was regarded as a classic.
>>25278082Because they had to read it in school
>>25278082because its communist propaganda intended to help young people justify breaking wedlock based on their lack of communication with their spouse about their sex life
>>25278562>its communist propaganda
>>25278538Damn, spending a lot of time on 4chan is having to wonder if this comment was meant to be contrarian or not. Not a classic where I live.
>>25278082Conservatards ruined it by drawing retarded, hyperbolic comparisons whenever the government tried to give people health care or something like that.
>>25278082It's just not very insightful.Authoritarianism is a useless buzzword, every form of governance requires some form of authority.Also, how can a regime like the one described in the book gain legitimacy? Even the most brutal dictatorships had some popular support (at least until they came to power). The masses would overthrow such a regime sooner or later.
>>25279147>hitler wasn't overthrown >staking wasn't overthrown>several examples of authoritarian autocracies going strong even today>novel also goes into detail on how the regime maintains power down to the very rewriting of language
>>25279190Because believe it not, all those countries had a huge support base.
>>25279192So did ingsoc. Stalinism turned the ussr into a nighmare in the span of a decade. Nazism took even less. Totalitarianism in the novel had at least three decades to do their thing
>>25279203Stalin took a feudal backwater and converted it into the 2nd biggest superpower.Even today, most Russians remember him fondly.
>>25279204Ah there you go. One of the two categories that hate the book. Tankies that got hit a little too close to home by the book correctly pointing out their tactics and calling out the level of doublethink they engage with daily
>>25279206Ad hominem
https://voca.ro/1iqZIrVbKsEc
>>25279206I don't even understand why tankies get so mad at the book. Big Brother himself is a caricature of Stalin, sure, but otherwise the book itself is a thought experiment on what kind of social organization, technological level and psycho-ideological motivation would be necessary for such a level of total control such as one finds in Oceania. That Ingsoc itself started as a socialist party is incidental, considering the book also considers the Catholic Church as somewhat of a forerunner to the Party but Catholics don't get anywhere near as butthurt as tankies do.
>>25278082Only fringe believers hate it. Most are just annoyed that they had to read it in school so have negative feelings towards it, and a lot of /lit/izens feel above it due to it being midwit core and the word orwellian being thrown around, ironically, in an orwellian way in all political adjacent discourseEverybody knows it's good and deserving of its place in the canon, and as cliché as it sounds it didn't become any less poignant and relevant as decades go by
>>25279213>drones get upset when supreme leader is criticised Say it ain't so
>>25279216yes kiss me you gorgeous perverse man
>>25279238Thank you for the gorgeous but I really am not that perverse
>>25278562Can't tell if bait or retarded genuine dogshit opinion.
