Longevity EditionStubbed >>25277024>What is /wng/ — Web Novel General?A general for readers and authors involved or interested in the growing phenomenon of 'web novels', serialized English fiction posted to websites such as: Royal Road, Webnovel, Scribblehub, Wattpad, Archive of Our Own, Spacebattles, HFY, various personal author websites, and more>Why read web novels?Not for prose or tight editing or deep themes, frankly. As a whole, web novels are infamous for content sprawl and pacing issues. If you enjoy having millions of words to sink your teeth into to get to know the world and characters, though, you may be interested. Keeping up with other readers on a weekly basis to discuss the story's events unfolding is another perk, in the same way discussing an ongoing TV show might be.>Why write web novels?Ease of access & potential for Patreon earnings. Many successful authors gain an audience on their website of choice and funnel their readers into a Patreon. See graphtreon.com/top-patreon-creators/writing for an idea of what some are earning.Also, once an author has earned a fanbase, transitioning into an Amazon self-publishing career is several orders of magnitude easier than starting 'dry'.>Advice for Noobs!##READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ASKING FOR HELP##Running your story like the business it is:www.royalroad.com/forums/thread/116847On writing web serials:alexanderwales.com/how-to-write-a-web-serial/Sanderson's Writing Lectures 2025:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEUh_y1IFZY&list=PLSH_xM-KC3ZvzkfVo_Dls0B5GiE2oMcLYRecommended web novelsrentry.co/d2yvczroAnon's guide to successrentry.co/RRBasicGuideFAQrentry.co/pytefpxn
read Cruel Violet by Dreamer's Riotit's peak
Trying my hand at magic academy urbfan.https://www.honeyfeed.fm/novels/29940Like subscribe etc.I'm mad rusty but I'm having fun.Is spreadsheet schizo still around?
>>25282867>>25282905buy an adYes, but we don't use his spreadsheet anymore
>>25282905Kind of. He popped in to play poor poor pitiful me when the discussion of taking down the spreadsheet came up. He then unlisted it himself and we took it out of the OP. He might still lurk, but he definitely doesn't make his usual posts here anymore.
I'm new to web novels, anything with a good magic system? By good I mean having clear rules similar to Sanderson's works.
>>25283167Reverend Insanity
>>25283167Reverend Insanity is a good starter pick
What are we reading
how abouta novel about a character doing really obvious scamsbut the twist is he's not a scammer at allbut he attracts other scammers to him and unknowingly fucks them over because they think he's scamming and see his success, but really he's just providing good products/services/etc or doing things for other reasons (like offering tours for advertising) and the real scammers jump on it and crash and burnthink it could be interesting
>>25283167I don't think there are any that follow all 3 of his rulesReverend Insanity, Regressors Tale, Mother of Learning, Shadow Slave, Lord of the Mysteries and Super Supportive are like 2-2.5.But all of them have power systems with generally consistent rules if that's your criteria.
>>25283259Check out The Greatest Real Estate Developer. It has a lot of this, including scamming people for their own good.
>>25283259Tearmoon Empire and Losing Money to Be a Tycoon both do this.
>>25283242Sworn to Destruction actively, my other fics are all hiatus, and I'm just too lazy to catch up on MLA after ch122
>>25282867please stop raiding our thread fmcsisters
>>25282454No, my gendered magic system is not based on reproduction but in my lore men have access to magic related to the sun while women have access to ones related to the moon. It's not scientific at all in story and much more spiritual but to keep things simple x chromosome = lunar while y chromosome = solar and while men can technically do both women have a much easier time accessing lunar while completely locked off of solar.I don't know if modern audiences are going to appreciate such a system. I honestly don't even know how to explain it without being potentially offensive but it has to be this way because she learned it from her father who had to play both roles after her mother died.
>westoid author tries writing yandere>she's had a boyfriend before
>westoid author tries writing a female>she's not a cute stereotype made to appeal to the audience
>westoids writing>westoids reading
>>25283602This isn't uncommon in xianxia where men often embody yang energy and women often embody yin energyLike, it's nothing new and if you matter-of-factly explain that men have one kind of magic and one women have another anyone sane is gonna take it at face value and the people who aren't are gonna find some other reason to be indignant regardless.
There’s been a lot of discussion about Western vs. Asian writing. But honestly, outside of Royal Road, I can barely tell the difference between the two.On Scribble Hub and WebNovel, they all have the same AI anime covers, the same recycled tropes, and the same ESL/translation-style prose.Maybe it’s because a lot of ESLs write directly in English, so they ended up blurring the line that way. But to me, the biggest divide isn’t East vs. West, but RR vs. everyone else.And I’m not a fan of RR’s writing style at all. Even if you don’t write like light novels, you could at least write like traditionally published American commercial novels. They’re easy to read and have tight pacing, instead of whatever meandering, Reddit-humor-ass nonsense you’re going for.
>>25283708>webnovel>asian writingIt's an english website, retard
>>25283693>This isn't uncommon in xianxia where men often embody yang energy and women often embody yin energyThat's good to hear. Though mine's a bit more complicated where men are constantly fighting between yin and yang while women excel at yin. I have to somehow explain it without offending people because a man literally taught her how to use it.
women have mommy magic men have daddy magic
>>25283738>Webnovel>English websiteWhat?
>>25283768Yes, it's owned by a chink company. But if you looked at the front page and registered what your eyeballs tell you, you might see everything is in english. Chinks don't write in english. In other words, you're comparing western writing to western writing and wondering why they're so similar, you dumb fuck
>>25283804It's an ESL site mostly used by SEA followed by India, Turkey, South America etcA while the winners from their award show was posted and there's like 4 white people there and maybe one wasn't a Slav
>>25283804there's a huge difference between Americans writing and South East Asians writing
>>25283817>>25283804
>>25283825>4 black women>2 black menREALLY makes you think
Reading more RTOC, at 189 nowThe scene with the true immortal fragment to get that blood was pretty interesting and he dropped some lore. Seo Hweol also seems to be a more competent villain than the other ones we’ve seen. Mad lord was fine but he was mad. Still haven’t seen what’s happening with Hye-seo
>>25283855nobody cares about your daily blog updates about this novel. read RI instead it’s peak
>>25283831>He doesn't know about the African Winnie Mafia>>25283865I care
>>25283825lowly non-whites daring to walk the Aryan road? they are courting death!
>>25283865There are like 700+ chapters so you’re about to see a lot of these by me, feel free to ignore them if it triggers you.
>>25283865One spamming shitposter complaining about a different spamming shitposter has to be most ironic thing I've seen in some time.
>>25283693They have both, it's just men have more yang and women more yin
>>25278973>>25278975I used this explanation to defend my client in court and got dismissed.
>>25283933it would have worked if you were a cute fox lawyer
>>25283937well the cute fox lawyer got disbarred by the new york supreme court for being a tranny and promptly became a schizo.she has been sending me schizo rants via spam mail for over 3 years now.
>>25283708Basically anyone can "publish" on RR, that's why 99.9% of all the stories on RR is garbage.
>>25283950that did NOT happen
>Wake up to 30+ notifications >all one guy saying tftc, nothing interesting>but following the chronology of his posts, he is reading everything out of order>goes from chapters 1 through to 10, jumps to ch 39, then back to 11, then 40, going back and forth from those two starting points periodically.>think its a bot or someone just wanting to make sure they hit every chapter with a tftc>posts one coherent on topic paragraph commenting on a chapter's contents>goes back 20 chapters for a tftc and resumes as normalWtf is this? Does anyone here read like this? Its still going now as they work their way through and judging by the time between posts he is actually reading everything.
>>25284167tftc
>>25284299Tales From the Crypt?
I hate all-knowing, cocky Chinese-style MCs so much it's unreal. I would rather read beta male MCs.
Thoughts on Sage Monarch, Desolate Era and Against the Gods?
>>25284405Desolate Era is alright, the other two are slop
Do you guys prefer numbers typed out as words or just left as numbers?
>>25284448Depends on the numbers. Times should normally read as flat numbers of being presented visually (like on a clock), but if someone's just guessing the time they should say it as a word.
>>25284448digits in narrative summary, spelled out in dialogue
>>25284448Depends on what numbers you’re talking about. Look up CMOS or other style guides that dictate this stuff like the AP style.
I strayed too deep into bigthinks again. As a writer, I want to find meaning and beauty even in mundane things, and keep forgetting winnie readers just want to see choleric retards get curbstomped and not trouble their brains
>>25284568What exactly do you have to say that is more interesting than choleric retards getting curbstomped?
>>25284614Things that no one else has said before and that can only be said by me.
>>25284636Such as?
modern-day xianxia but it's a Chronicle-style story about a small group of friends getting the powers and/or finding an inheritance, and it naturally eventually comes down to "Let's save the world" vs. "Let's fix the world"the twist is MC is the Fix the World guy
>>25284568>>25284636Then why the fuck are you trying to write a webnovel?!
>>25284167>read the entire story>want to help the author out by leaving a comment of every chapter to make sure it looks engaged with, and thank them for chapters>open every chapter in a new tab>comment on the first 10>cat throws up>forget my place and click on the last of the tabs instead>remember where I was then click on the correct tab>realize it doesn't mater what order they are commented in and start clicking tabs at random
>Ripoff mechanics from a sci-fi game for the magic system in my fantasy story>They just follow Sandersons 3 rules without me having to do anything elseHuh
>>25285377Various litrpg and cultivation systems are available, you don't have to use that dumb sanderson garbage.
>>25285385Sanderson isn't a specific system
>>25285377haha yeahI also did thatI stole Starsector's basic ship mechanics for my magic system's foundationsI was even gonna crib the weapon slots for spells but that was too annoying to write
>>25285385I like how /wg/ posters like this glow
>>25285385retard
>>25282867Its kind of boring. Wow she kills people, cool. I couldn't tell you a single other thing about it. REND is 100x more interesting
>>25285538it is amusing how she gets everything wrong. she's actually crazy and it shows in her overthinking and overreacting.
>>25285538I like the mist nightmare world
eastern wizard enjoyerswould someone explain the cultivation concept of "reaching heaven through violence"?RIfag, now is your one (1!) time to perhaps consider renouncing your ways and being useful for once over the past 7 years!
>>25285772This is a far more Western concept than it is Eastern, particularly via Western occult groups (Crowley specifically). The very very very tl;dr ultra-condensed version is that one aspect of it is achieving your ends through raw willpower and volition. "Fake it til you make it" brought onto an ontological level.
>>25285775Yeah I actually ask because of Elder Scrolls haha but I see the obvious on-screen theme with cultivators. I admit I do not "get" the concept of "commit mass murder to achieve (some form of) apotheosis".>fake it till you make itSure sounds like mantling.
Guys go read maidens of fall by hungry. Getting better and better each week.
>>25285779>Sure sounds like mantling.It's closer to that. The "Commit mass murder" thing is a misunderstanding. "Violence" as it's used in the 36 Lessons is Kirkbride echoing Crowley's use of the term, which he used it in regards to interacting with people's "Will." Which sometimes is done by actually killing them but you can do it in all sorts of ways if you're crazy enough.
>>25285781I read enough of Necroepilogos to know I won't like her(?) works.>>25285783You know what. While I'm thinking about this, I'll just repost on /x/ out of curiosity. So Vivec's fake CHIMism ramblings is Crowley-inspired? >you can do it in all sorts of ways if you're crazy enoughIs this a reference to the Walking Ways? If not, please elaborate.
>>25285787>Is this a reference to the Walking Ways? If not, please elaborate.The Walking Ways are one way, yeah, but you can also just engage in weirdly specific symbolic rituals (Skyrim starts with one that unshackles you from fate), or just lying all the fucking time (Canonically how Cyrus becomes the HoonDing).
>>25285789Haha dude I post this copypasta about taking Ralof's route in Skyrim sometimes and that entire aurbic ritual.Hey do you know anything about Harpocrates or signs -> rituals?
>>25285779it sounds like TES because the Psijics are just cultivators. Observing the wheel sideways, seeing "I" and maintaining your self-determination as a figment of the dream is pure cultivation type shit.
>>25285794show me, i remember it but also forgot most of itthe copypasta
>>25285781I loved katalepsis and really struggled with motf, to the point I dropped it
Hard magic this, system that. The only actual rule is that plot + time + resources = characters getting stronger.LitRPG: Grind EXP to reach higher levels.Xianxia: Absorb Qi to break through to higher realms.Dragon Ball: Scream louder to gain a new hair dye.Kamen Rider / Shonen anime: Watch tear-jerking backstories to unlock new drip.God of War: The blood of your enemies makes your weapons stronger.Iron Man: Smart dude keeps building stronger toys.
>>25285800lol I did forget about the Psijics there but you are goddamnned right about them being THE cultivators of TESAs other anon and I talked about though, that specific phrase did not originate from the Psijics. And the Walking Ways present other methods of "ascension".>>25285802If you choose to escape with Ralof into Helgen Keep during the tutorial of Skyrim, he unwittingly completes an aurbic ritual through the unbinding of your shackled hands (untying the Prisoner from fate) inside of a Tower (symbolic of the cylindrical wheel, within which all of reality occurs), where a chandelier casts the shadow of an eight-spoked wheel (strengthening the symbology) upon the floor of the same ritual chamber containing a deer head casting the shadow of dragon with spread wings, directly in the middle between the bear emblem of the Stormcloaks and the Imperial sigil.
>>25285800>Observing the wheel sideways, seeing "I"Here's a fun set of trukes for you:https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/708633806/#708713728https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/708633806/#708713928https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/708633806/#708714260https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/708633806/#708714350
>>25285860I actually edited the part about the Wheel being a cylinder into the copypasta within >>25285814 thanks to those posts.Other Me, tell me something new.
>>25285860yeah checks out to me
>>25285861Funnily enough I was the guy who did the 3D renders for that thread and explained the tower/Yokudan stuff. Nothing new I can supply to you.
I was told to avoid contractions if you're in a pre-modern fantasy setting for immersion purposes. Is this true or will I just end up sounding pretentious and annoying my readers?
>>25285871Absolute horseshit. You're writing in English, and English has had contractions for as long as the language existed. It's a fundamental tool of the language. Hell, we used to have MORE contractions like 'nih as an even shorter "Didn't."
>>25285865For what it's worth, I love you for, well, changing the entire perspective of my looking at the Wheel. Have a good rest of your life, friend.
>>25285871no contractions makes me drop shit FAST. huge pet peeve
>>25285874>>25285877I'll keep using contractions then. Thank you.
>new Clara Casewell, Attorney to the Villainess chapterit's peak, as always
>>25286118Church bad is always peak
Turns out haremslop does sell on RR and no one complains, if you just pre-emptively say it's a bad book in the synopsis.
>>25286177if this is about ave xia rem y then you're full of shit because that thing is neither harem or really xianxia and i am mad about it
>>25286177yeah, obviously. why would you ever think otherwise>/wng/ saidpeople here just say things
>>25285772Like the other guy said it's not really an eastern thing. Well it is but only much more recently. "Defying the Heavens" and "Fate Transcendence" is mostly inspired by bideo games (especially jrpgs where you kill god to save the world) and Shonen manga and modern eastern authors applying rule of cool to interpretations of Buddhism and Indian mythology like Asura (who in the west are translated as "demons" though it's more complicated than that).Pic related is the PvP sect in Where Winds Meet which is a super edge lord take on Buddhism where you kill people to take on their karma for yourself.These kind of ideas don't show up in 20th century Chinese works like Legend of the Swordsmen of the Mountains of Shu. In those days the protagonist always exemplified benevolence and righteousness and harmony with the Dao. If you were a bad boy you were part of a demonic sect.
>>25286183I think they meant Moneymaker
>>25286177any harem recommendations? I love my junk food but some of the ones I've read are incomplete or barely fleshed out yet.
>>25286317Have you tried the entirety of scribblehub or fucknovelpia?
>>25286317Moneymaker
Anyone got troll suggestions that I can write down to give people asking for actual suggestions to fuck with them?
>>25286317An Infinite Recursion of Time.A timeloop harem story that slowly turns into kino-smut.
>>25286375dungeon crawler carlbeware of chicken
>>25286375If you read any webnovels then you should know tons.
>>25286317Dungeon Crawler CarlBeware of Chicken
>>25286317Vexations of a Shut-in Vampire Princess.
>>25286375What a fulfilling life you must lead if that's how you get your enjoyment.
>>25286400The only purpose of this thread is to serve as my toilet. Now open your mouth, cuckie.
>>25286405Carry on making my point for me.
>>25286375Cradle
>>25286332I did but most are too amateur. >>25286367I'll add that to my list.>>25286380>slow burnSounds promising to me.>>25286394too mainstream for my contrarian taste (read them and they're aight)>>25286398femc? I don't really read yuri but I'll trust your taste.
