>Destroys Western Civilization
>>25284118Their philosophy ultimately amounted to nothing more than an elaborate justification for hippie nonsense
>hasn’t read them>has read fewer than 30 books in his entire pathetic existence >only reads slopstack articles written by his jewish technofeudalist overlords Mentally fragile
>>25284118Can you explain how?
>>25284127What if I do both?
what you anti-postmodern retards will never understand is that postmodernism is the best foundation for right wing politics.Under postmodernism, the only justification anyone can have for anything is might.Postmodernism is literally the meta-ethics of fascism
I agree, this is where philosophy finally reaches maturity. People are intimidated because they think they have to have read everything ever written to understand them. Not so, these are books written in words, you can read them. Genuinely subversive shit that does not even fit our normal political categories.
>>25284118Freudo-marxism is not "western civilization".
>>25284152This, everybody still believes "postmodernism is when feminists" because Juden Peterstein made that up 12 years ago
Derrida was a total hack but there is nothing of significance connecting him to the other two, aside from the exogenous label of postmodern.
>>25284152Whence Jameson's classic book Postmodernism: The Cultural Logic ofLate Capitalism
>>25284158>Hates Marx>Is homosexual Everytime
>>25284118You and your lazy, entitled, non-baby-making ass are what destroys western civilization.
>>25284187What causes it?
>>25284270>look mom i cherrypicked some quotes
>>25284165Uh no weirdo post modernism just seems pretty bad I'm not connected to your dumb online shit
>>25284178Derrida was the most important of them all you twat
>>25284279You don't know anything about it
>>25284178There was this idiotic twitter thread that did the same thing which blew up a few days ago. I’m presuming this is where OP got his inspiration from, thinking that it was actually a good analysis of their philosophy. https://nitter.net/brivael/status/2055414755435889086
>>25284152It sounds like you are saying that the foundation of right wing politics is "might is right". Is that correct? If so, is that really true?
>>25284289Today I deconstruct deconstruction.Deconstruction is the most effective mental virus ever devised against a civilization. It was made in France between 1966 and 1980 by three men: Foucault, Derrida and Deleuze. It was exported to the United States, hybridized with American racial puritanism, and it returned thirty years later under the name of wokism to cripple the entire West. Here's how it works, and why it needs to be destroyed.The thesis is simple. All truth is only a disguised power relationship. Every sacred text, every law, every science, every norm, every hierarchy, every identity, every institution actually hides a domination. Deconstructing is showing the balance of power under the veneer of truth. It's tearing off the mask. It is "unmasking".Formulated like that, it seems harmless. Or even useful. Who doesn't like a little critical thinking? The trap is there. Deconstruction is presented as a method. It is in reality an ontology. It does not only say "let's question the norms", it says "there are *only* power relations". The difference is civilizational.A society that questions its norms remains standing. A society that believes that its norms are *nothing less* than domination is collapsing. Because she can no longer defend anything. No longer a border, no more law, no more science, no more language, no more history, no more biology, no longer a family. Everything becomes suspicious. Everything becomes negotiable. Everything becomes "constructed, therefore deconstructible".That's the first reason it's a virus. He is self-replicating. Once inoculated, it turns everything it touches into a target. Science is patriarchal, so let's deconstruct it. Language is colonial, so let's reinvent it. Meritocracy is racist, so let's abolish it. Sex is a construct, so let's choose it. There is no more rock. Everything is sand.Second reason. The virus is *non-falsifiable*. If you defend a norm, you are the oppressor. If you deny that you are an oppressor, it is proof of your unconscious privilege. If you cite facts, your facts are contaminated by the power that produced them. If you quote reason, reason itself is white, masculine, Western. There is no way out. The system is designed to render any objection inadmissible by definition.This is exactly the structure of a cult. And this is exactly what has been installed in universities, HR, the media, administrations, boards of directors over the past twenty years.Third reason. The virus is self-refuting but not self-destructing. If all truth is power, then the phrase "all truth is power" is itself power, and therefore worthless. Logically, the deconstruction bites its tail from the first sentence. But she doesn't care. Because she has never sought coherence. It seeks political efficiency. And its political effectiveness is immense. It disarms its enemies and arms its militants. It paralyzes the defender and frees the attacker. It is a perfect asymmetric weapon.
>>25284118They diagnosed a development within western civilization, they didn't create it. Ironically the right-wingers seething about postmodern neo-Marxists are exhibit A for this development. Alex Jones, Peterson, Trump... if the postmodernists were alive they would simply nod and say I told you so.
>>25284118All of them were homosexual child rapists too, go figure.
>>25284351Fourth reason. The virus produces diminished humans. An entire generation has learned to deconstruct and has never learned to build. She knows how to suspect, never to admire. She sees power everywhere and beauty nowhere. It can produce a thousand pages about Shakespeare's oppressive character and zero lines worth reading in a hundred years. She has comfyCritical intelligence with critical pose. It is sterile by construction. A mind nourished by deconstruction is a mind that no longer knows how to build anything.The fifth reason, the most serious. A civilization stands on three pillars. The belief that a truth is accessible to reason. The belief that a good is distinguished from an evil. The belief that a legacy deserves to be passed on. Deconstruction has methodically dynamited all three. Not out of malice. Out of intellectual play, out of fascination with suspicion, out of hatred of the bourgeoisie that had fed its prophets. But the result is there. A civilization that no longer believes in its truth, nor in its good, nor in its heritage does not defend itself. She apologizes while waiting for the end.That's what we did. That is what must be named.The good news is that a mental virus survives only as long as it is given the authority of speech. It dies as soon as you stop playing your game. As soon as we quietly reaffirm that there is a truth, a beauty, a good, a heritage. As soon as we stop asking permission from the deconstructors to build. As soon as we do it again. As soon as we transmit. As soon as you create.The builders always have the last word on the commentators. Always. Because in the end what remains is what is built, and nothing that has been deconstructed.So today I'm deconstructing deconstruction. And tomorrow I'll build.
>>25284351>Today I deconstruct deconstructionI can do it in one shitpost
>>25284353>They diagnosed a development within western civilizationWhat was that? Explain please
>>25284351LLMsloppa
>>25284118A sage from the desert once urged us to oublier Foucault.
>>25284289Nta but is he wrong? I’ve only read introductory books on the subject but my impression is post modernism is less of its own philosophy and more a tool kit for taking other philosophies apart. Even if it’s a flawed critique of pm it seems like he’s correctly describing how it’s been deployed over the last 60 years. Feel free to meme on me, I don’t mind.
>>25284118jk rowling is a single mom. she considers sex to be low stakes and doesnt consider the childs inability to walk away from hos parents not giving a shit about him. this is represented in her essays on the human condition where hairy poofter walks past dementors to go drink butterbeer and eat jelly beans that taste like vomit, then dumblederp the pederast goes along with hairy poofter being in the dangerous tournament because the magic thing said so. because england is ran by horrifying old bitches, hairy poofter is the most popular book in england
>>25284118Sartre and De Beauvoir destroyed western civilization way more than any of these guys.Foucault was actually pretty based, he brought Nietzschean thinking back into the mainstream after normies got turned off from him due to le nazis.
>>25284152Massively high IQ and correct post.
>>25284275That's a lot to "cherrypick"
>>25284270When you read history, you come to the realization that historical homosexuality was not as pozzed as the modern promiscuous AIDs butt-fisting poopdick version of it. Like everything in our current retarded society it was corrupted.
>>25284152so, the concept of having the right relationship to the means of production of real ultimate power isnt part of fascism? every government has power and is therefore fascist?
>>25284127spbp
they should stop teaching about them in Undergraduate level education. They don't understand it. Its an unreasonable expectation for them to be able to understand these guys, nevermind engage with them.One of the single most unpleasant experiences in my life was attending an undergrad level tutorial about Anti-Oedipus where the lecturer didn't even vaguely understand what he was teaching.
cant wait to read these guys, Deleuze is the only one i refuse to read, if I cant understand you even when lecturers and video essayists are trying to explain you, then theres really no point is there?
>>25284289oh my fucking god i was trying to find this niggas tweet on my twitter and hes one of those deranged people who tweet like every minute or whatever, what the fuck, im not scrolling through this shit
Is there any hope for someone without an academic background/circle of readers/whatever to ever read philosophy and frankly even literature with a purpose? While starting late, to boot?
>>25284778Others will lie to you to make you feel better but autodidactism is a meme. You missed the boat. Stick to anime, Fantasy, and video games. They were made for people like you. I'm not trying to be insulting by saying that even though it probably comes off that way.
>>25284778Yes, but you likely have to be rich or well off, or academic.Modern Academia doesnt allow much room to engage with philosophies like the 20th century french from what I've heard, but almost all past philosophers were academics, so its basically the only way other than being rich enough to have time to read philosophy
>>25284791It's not time that fucks me. It's me realizing I have a brain that has never been used at 28. Beside missing the whole intellectual environment and setting of university + actual people to debate with, I am simply slow. I've read probably 20+ secondary literature pdfs on certain topics and I retained nothing. I am just sub 60 IQ or whatever the "chewed gum" level of intelligence is.
>>25284152you are definitely onto something but a) part of the "right wing" if one could even call it that is still reactionary and/or attached to conservatism and thus the foundational myths of this civilization as it existed until last century and b) by the time one might be able to turn weaponized nihilism on its head and start using it proactively as return of power politics and tribalism(tribe in the sense of pure 'people who agree with me' vs the rest) it might be too late to salvage much, like fetching a gun and loading it when the fox already ate all the grapes
>>25284819I go to Uni, my Uni even teaches French theory, it's in Germany so it comes with the whole Hegel-Husserl-Heidegger-Gadamer and more baggage, and its not any fucking better, out of like 40 people in the department, maybe 2 are interesting enough to have a nice level conversation with.Most profs are lifeless and most students are dumb as hell and have no idea what they are talking about/are only studying philosophy because they are rich and didn't know what else to study.They also have to comply with the academic guidelines and thus teach very mild and deradicalized versions of philosophy. I'm not talking about less leftist/marxist versions, rather they take out all the life which made the works what they are.All my friends come from the history department, because at least there, the people like the subject and you can have lively discussions about historiography and whatnot.
>>25284819Your brain gets better when you use it. Either start using it now or waste more years to be more frustrated later. Reading non-fiction is not so much about retaining but getting yourself to think about the topic. Even the main advantage of reading itself, arguably, is not so much the information but training yourself to focus on something difficult for a while, with no immediate gratification like tv/vidya.
>>25284118Western civilization was already destroyed when the (((allied powers))) were victorious in the Second Gentile Uprising. Post-War French pseudointellectuals was just rubbing it in the goys faces
>>25284819Rousseau complains somewhere of having a terrible memory and hardly being able to remember what he reads. Fichte writes about forgetting his own writings, even, and being surprised by them when he revisited them. Writing is what helps you remember, in general. Most intellectuals do not have ironclad memories they just read and write all the time and that keeps things active. So don't be discouraged, there's nothing wrong with you.
>>25284901I'm sorry but it just doesn't work like that. NOTHING can make up for the years that were stolen from me
>>25284127But OP's premise sounds so snappy!
>>25284118The groups mainly responsible for destroying the west are-the Marxists-the French-the Jews-the bureaucrats-women-the calvinists -the non-whites-those in the aristocracy and nobility not held liable for their station and allowed to enable all the others.
>>25284942No need to apologize, whiny faggot
>>25284932good guy here, don't think i could have put it better myself. another things id add, yiu have to try and engage with the material in some way, apply it to life, or some social problem you care about, or even something as simple as videogames and tv shows, and it will feel more meaningful and relevant, and therefore have a reason to be retained, also try to think outloud in your notes about how a philosophical thought you read made you feel or think about something, anything. Jusr try and think, not merely consoom
>>25284118I was going to make a thread for this, but I guess I'll ask here instead.So how does Foucault explain why people fall into different identities? He seems to take constructivism to its natural conclusion and argues that all knowledge is historically contingent and categories aren't an attempt to map a neutral subject but the current episteme, which the subjects then navigate. But he rejects both the blank slate and innate personal desires, as for him desire is produced, not merely conducted, by the episteme. So then what? How does someone become a fag?
>>25285573As far as I know he doesn't, which caused a rift between Lacanians in the 90s when Copjec pointed it out, because most Lacanians at the time were also Foucauldians.
>>25284346He's a pseud. The foundation of right-wing politics is natural law and equating that with "might makes right" betrays shallow thinking.
>>25285573In practice he's a blank slatist. He just doesn't think the slate is filled but labeled. A pedantic distinction.
>>25285637he's completely right and might is right IS natural law
>>25285984>might is right IS natural lawanother 12 year old who reads "natural law" as "rules of the jungle" or some other dimwitted bullshit
>>25285984>>25286006samechink
>>25286006break it down further
>>25286011For (You)
>>25285984>t. doesn't know what "natural law" meansLol
>>25284118You’re correct.
>>25284976Aren't you forgetting someone, Nigel?
>>25286006>>25286009>>25286060I'm just a different low IQ lurker. How is might is right not natural law?
>>25284353What part of MAGAtardism is post-modernist? Is it that MAGAtards live in their own version of reality which has nothing to do with the actual reality. Or that facts or truth mean nothing to MAGAtards at all. Or is the schizophrenic state of MAGAtards where they love to suck Capitalism's dick while hating every cultural development that comes from Capitalism...immigration, feminism and all that. Or is it the neural pathways MAGAtards have developed in their heads that keep them in a state of permanent retardation?
>>25284152No, the best foundation for right wing politics is traditionalist ethnonationalism rooted in history
>>25286013>>25286060feel free to explain it
>>25284126for diddiling children*
>>25284595>Foucault was actually pretty basedEhhhh, Foucault's Nietzscheism isn't really Nietzsche.
>>25284738>the lecturer didn't even vaguely understand what he was teaching.The problem is that academic consensus is the mainstream understanding of them, political shitflinging between left and right notwithstanding.
>>25284600How low IQ do you have to be to think out of the millions of books written in the world a selection of 10 quotes is 'a lot'.
>>25284152You are correct, that's why fascism and current iteration of right-wing is fake, gay and retarded.
>>25284165>>25284598>>25284823Low IQ posts. The best foundation for a right wing nation is greco-roman metaphysics.
>>25286469>greco-roman metaphysicsI'm convinced rightoids just say stuff based on half-remembered memes. What the fuck is 'greco-roman metaphysics'? Is it the stoics? Is it the Platonists? Is it the Aristotelians? Is it the Epicureans? Is it the Heraclitians?
>>25286482It's a vibe and aesthetic
>>25284135He can't.>>25284118These are not capitalists, OP.
>>25286267>>25286328Holy shit, do you retards really not know they're conceptually opposed to one another? You're too dumb to use a search engine? Lol.
>>25286482the greco-roman metaphysics movement is tertullian and chrysostom
>>25287213Lmaooooo
>>25284819You're probably not slow. I'm not saying this to make you feel happy or anything but objectively speaking not retaining info on books you skimmed is not indicative of IQ, and on the contrary having the self-realization that you're retarded is something most retards are incapable of having. It at the very least shows that you're not retarded when it comes to conceptualization and identification, which are the backbone of VIQ>t. 130iq who forgets everything he reads
>>25284778Read lacan nigga
>>25286482A mix of all of them
if three retards could destroy an entire civilization then it probably deserved to be destroyed
>>25287258NTA but makes me feel less like a retard who has to think really hard sometimes about the contexts within which I formulated certain arguments of feelings, because my memory constantly fails me even though the ideas dont leave me, its just how I came to those ideas that sometimes will. Like I'm trying to do a genealogy and I don't have the historical info, but I know what the historical info produced.
>>25286267They're opposites. Natural law holds that moral action is determinable via reason applied to human nature whereas might makes right implies something is moral if you can enforce it. For might makes right shooting and killing a person is a moral action simply because you have a gun whereas with natural law you need to construct a rationale for having done so (e.g. self-defense, protection of property, protection of the community, etc).
>>25286469>>25286321Contained between these two posts is the entire spectrum of current right-wing thought: nostalgia for blood and soil, or nostalgia for antiquity. Both are anachronistic larps. This is precisely why right wing ideology is postmodern in the contemporary moment - all it does it want to recycle through the dead ideas of the past. That’s not to say the left isn’t the same, they must be on their 5th iteration of feminism by now. When they start introducing handicap access for two-spirit obese native Americans into the trans bathroom discourse, we’ll know we’ve reached the 6th. Even though nothing has really changed at all.
>>25287475Pseud post.
Maybe Foucault, not Derrida or Baudrillard really. Derrida really wanted to talk about egregores, but they teased him so he said fuck it and settled into a peaceful life. Baudrillard was just plain right about our current brainrot hellscape.
>>25287475>t. libtard normie midwit with 0 self-awareness
if some french pedophiles can destroy the west by just writing words between diddy parties, then was it really something worth preserving?
>>25287363>>25287544>cultural Marxism is just conspiracy theory >actually, it's real but that's a good thing
>>25287594>Cultural MarxismNo such thing. It's the decadent nature of the West itself. This is who they really are.
>>25287594western civ vs postmodernism is more like two autistic retards fighting each other, no one is "good" in that scenario.
>>25287603>It's the decadent nature of the West itselfThat's what a jew would say
>>25287621jews agree with this but they're too tricky to say it outloud
