Why was he gatekeeping what the monsters looked like?
>>25284197Some things are just too terrible to describe.
>>25284197bruh, the old gods were aura farming, physical appearance was unnecesary they werent looksmaxxing
>>25284197The fuck you talking about he describes hsi creature in detail. Even gives a fucking autopsy to one
>>25284197> dream quest of unknown kadath> mountains of madness
>>25284197He wasn't.
>>25284282>the shadow out of time>the shadow over innsmouth>the dunwich horror>dreams in the witch houseYeah, OP is a poser. Read a fucking book instead of memes.
>>25284197Ridiculous meme. One innovation of Lovecraft was that he actually DID describe the monsters. Previous horror writers were much more abstract.
>>25284197He more or less does describe them with the caveat that your brain can only approximate what they look like because they're so different you have no references to compare them to
>>25284282>>25284782Fuck yeah.
So far I've read>Shadows over Innsmouth>The Lurking Fear>The Dunwich HorrorWhich one do I read next? The dream ones filtered me btw
>>25286358Whisperer in Darkness for sure.Or it might be called Haunter of the Dark.Always forget which one it was I really liked
>>25286358>The dream ones filtered meThe Dream Cycle is great, I don't get the hate. The Silver Key + Through the Gate of the Silver Key is mind-bending. Don't think I've read The Lurking Fear tho, gotta fix that once I'm done rereading The Whisperer in Darkness.
>>25286358Gotta read Call of Cthulhu.Rats In The Walls is good.Colour Out Of Space usually gets mentioned.Mountains Of Madness is longer and you might not think the game is worth the candle but some people really like it.If you can, get hold of a decent collection of his letters. Lots of really good stuff in there. (Also lots of sad stuff. For example, when he sells some story or other and is happy because it means now he can afford to HEAT his baked beans before he eats them.) He basically comes across as a pretty nice guy.Joshi & Schultz, ‘Lord of the Visible World’ is the easiest collection. It's not terrible. They comment a bit but you just ignore the commentary. They don't appear to be too bad on the "insane liberal revisionism" front.
>>25286361Both of these are fucking great imho
>>25286434Call of Cthulu bored me slightly tbqh
>>25284197He was copying Paradiso's final chapter
>>25284197Too horrifyingI also think this was the reason why he was such a stark atheist, it could be a form of cope from all the visions he was getting of the terrifying gods and monsters in his dreams and such which was driving him mad
>>25286358Thing on the DoorstepThe Case of Dexter WardHerbert West: Reanimatorreally, you should just read his whole canon, and then start on his letters
>>25286434those collections of his letters have become some of my favorite summertime reading over the years (currently waiting on the new Frank Belknap Long volume). just something very relaxing about getting immersed in the very specific time period and set of circumstances that drew all those people together, and like you said, there's a lot of very poignant stuff throughout. I have rarely had any interest in meeting artists whose work I like but joining Lovecraft on one of his interminable historic walking tours around Providence is something I wish I could experience
>>25286658Lovecraft and R. E. Howard had a massive correspondence which IIRC was published (in three volumes!) but then went out of print.You can buy it physical but it costs a lot.Apparently it's a bit repetitive and uneven but overall really good. They discuss everything under the sun but always around the central disagreement (REH thinks civilization = bad, HPL doesn't).I did have a look at one point to see if I could find an ebook but no luck.
>>25284197>Why was he gatekeeping what the monsters looked like?Because he was repressing. It's a trans allegory.
>>25286711>You can buy it physical but it costs a lot.right here >>25286615it's in 2 volumes and they cost $20 each
>>25286792Oh OK, yeah that's hardly a lot, if it's complete.
>>25284197They were indescribable horrors, so he didn't describe them as that would stop them from being indescribable.Hilariously, a massive amount of his abominations were susceptible to mundane weapons and damage but people seem to think they weren't these days.
>>25286891The other thing that is funny to me is how people think fishmen were raping women in Innsmouth when it was pretty obvious that the population of fisherman were predominately male and were getting paid fat stacks of gold to dick down fish women instead.
>>25286358give the Dream Cycle a second chance, I read them in publication history (idk if it makes a difference)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Cyclesome of the stuff from earlier stories shows up in later ones.>>25286434>>25286444Call of Cthulhu is the most disappointing of his stories imo. It reads good but the climax+ending is so fucking gay.
Lovecraft described what the monsters looked like all of the time. This is the strangest idea people have about Lovecraft.You literally already know what Cthulhu, the great old ones, and the Shoggoth look like, if you're so much as casually familiar with Lovecraft.
>zoomer whose mind has been buckbroken by ad hoc buzzwords attempts at cognition and communication for the first time
>>25286909>Call of Cthulhu is the most disappointing of his stories imoI can see why people don't like the ending but I think he just didn't quite write it well enough. The point is meant to be not that they face C.'s full wrath and survive but that C. is sort of distracted or something and not really trying to do anything, but he will later, maybe. But I agree it doesn't come across very well.But you have to read Cthulhu anyway just because of what it meant to HPL.
>>25286795>if it's completeit's complete in the sense that it has all the extant letters, a depressing amount of Lovecraft's responses to Howard are lost because REH didn't save them, whereas Lovecraft autistically filed all of his correspondences away
>>25286894>getting paid fat stacks of gold to dick down fish womentfw ywn
>>25284237Omg someone whose actually read the material... on lit.Crazy days
>>25286358Under the pyramid and to a much lesser degree Sarnath are the only stories to ever disturb me.
>>25284197OPEN THE GATE AND FIND OUT
>>25287127The Thing on the Doorstep disturbed me because I extrapolated that the wizard must have been having sex with a dude in his daughter's body.
Lord Dunsany clears. Sorry.
>>25287973Only his early work. And Lovecraft was a fan. He actually attended a live reading of his in Boston.
>>25287980>only his early workWhat does this even mean? Dunsany wrote for 55 years. So what you’re saying is the first 28 years of his writing career encompassing 170 short stories and 7 novels?
>>25284197I've read most of what he wrote and I'm having a hard time thinking of a monster he didn't describe. He described the most famous ones anyway. I guess he doesn't really describe Azathoth, most people draw it as a flying spaghetti monster for some reason but I picture it as a sort of a fat cosmic thrashing retard. That's how interpreted 'blind idiot god' anyway.
>>25287973recommend me some