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Is Bataille just too extreme for even /lit/ to seriously engage with?
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>>25287013
Ywnbaw
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>>25287013
Sade is more extreme and apollinaire is more fun
Bataille is just eh
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>whoooaahh dude im so transgressive i jerked off at my mom's funeral brooo
western civilization is ran by luciferian child rapists, who cares about some fr*nch butt worshiper's banal libertinism
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What's a Bataille concept/idea worth exploring then.
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No shit OP, fucking Shakespearian sonnets and Catch 22 are too extreme for most of /lit/
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>>25287013
I just plain don't like him
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>>25287043
You haven't really read him deeply or understood him (though Bataille himself would probably question the whole idea of "understanding"), yet you talk about him like you know exactly what he's about. Do you do this just to feed some illusory fictional self you're weirdly attached to for no reason?
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>>25287122
I haven‘t read Bataille and that anon‘s shitpost roughly accords with the impression a cursory overview of his work has given me. Can you briefly explain his significance and why my perception is wrong?
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>>25287046
Desire as excess, general economy and expenditure, his reading of Nietzsche as a kind of philosophical cannibal. He has a pretty unique style too, visions of excess and his poetry are worth checking out (and of course Story of the eye).
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>>25287128
You can make any writer sound retarded with a glib remark. Easier to trivialize than to actually engage and do the reading.
He’s influential for a lot of the French structuralist/post-structuralist guys like Lacan, Lyotard, Deleuze.
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>>25287046
Base materialism is his most famous concept
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I enjoy your posts and I will read him eventually I’m just into other shit right now.
>>25287122
Yes, as a general rule you should play advocate for whatever philosopher you read, try to think your way into how they could be right rather than criticize. Philosophy involves large conceptual shifts, if you can’t read charitably you’ll never experience them.
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>>25287239
>I enjoy your posts
Who are you talking to?
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>>25287043
unironically this, Europeans deserve their replacement by 70iq retards, not even joking. the average European is a slave cattle, even worse than Americans and they're zog cattle but still have something in them. Europeans are just passive slaves, you can slap them in public or insult their mother and they will do nothing
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>>25287043
this is an interesting post. why? it gets sorta to the heart of the matter, which i dont have the exact words for. first, we'd need words other than the juvenile "libertininsm" to describe bataille with some accuracy. then we;d need to juxtapose it again with the 'luciferian child rapists"
the distinction would likely be highly rewarding for who ever managed to do it clearly.

i read some of blue of noon, thought meh. then i lived a little more. made myself read it again. definitely felt something different. would read again.
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>>25287242
The OP, sorry. I’m assuming it’s one guy starting the Bataille threads but maybe I’m wrong.
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>>25287254
Why do I keep seeing this exact retarded copypasta? Europe had the Yellow Vests and America had the Floyd riots.
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>>25287043
the luciferian child rapists are all bataillean themselves
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>>25287256
>>25287559
are they tho?
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>>25287013
I think these guys might like him more:
>>>/x/
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>>25287043
OP BTFO.
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>>25287013
The accursed share has always been a significant book on /lit/ due to its influence on thinkers like Baudrillard and Land. It’s also not as obscene as his other works
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>>25287666
Bataille absolutely mogs both Baudrillard and Land though
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>>25287666
Why does so much of his writing go pee pee poo poo?
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>>25288013
pretty sure it doesnt, though i think there is some urination. thats not really 'going pee pee'
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>>25287988
Land 100%, Baudrillard not necessarily. Bataille is kind of a dweeb in comparison
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>>25288021
This is a poem of his titled "Rire" (laughter):
Laugh and Laugh
at the sun
at the nettles
at the stones
at the ducks
at the rain
at the pee pee of the pope
at mummy
at a coffin full of shit
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>>25288348
He also has a fragment literally called "The Sky Goes PooPoo" in this book.
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>>25288348
>mfw anon isn't making this up
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>>25288348
So profound... I must listen to Slipknot about this...
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>>25288351
Seems like an overly literal translations of faire caca
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>>25288021
André Breton denounced him as an "excrement-philosopher" and Bataille took it as a compliment.
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>>25287043
kek
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>>25287988
Baudrillard > Bataille >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Land
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>>25288348
not a bad poem
assuming what is 'pee pee' in french, assuming pope is Papa ?
the excremental nature of what lies in a coffin is natural and hardly pee pee poo pooing

>>25288351
>>25288409
thats sounds pretty on point for the writer of Solar Anus, economist of the energy of the universe. still not really 'pee pee poo poo'ing to my mind

>>25288812
see above

also, its the notion of debasement, of being declasse, upending the nature of respect. which is only ever pee pee poo pooing as seems appropriate in the moment
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>>25287013
hes the type of guy that Nabokov would trash
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>>25287013
the LOATHESOME DUNGEATER



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