>>25302431
>Because I’m Afraid of Women, I’ll Avoid All the FMC Novels
give me a qrd on the winnie/light novel with this title

Is the raid over

>>25302442
It's exactly what it says. For a more detailed explanation, the MC had a sister who loved to terrorize him growing up which led to said fear. He's finally able to feel a bit of relief when she goes off to college, but has a hard time fitting into society, retreating into at home hobbies and skills. His sister comes home during Christmas and likes to gift him FMC novels as a joke. This most recent one, she gives him an otome game. He gets into a spat with her and goes to throw it in the garbage when he trips and hits his head on the sidewalk. He's then isekai'd into the otome game as an NPC, who for whatever reason, has been set upon by the eyes of the FMC of the game. He wants nothing to do with her and uses all the skills he picked up being a volcel to avoid her. Each volume also introduces characters from those other FMC novels his sister gifted him, all of which also lusting after him.

>>25302471
well? what are you waiting for? write it right now

>>25302470
only once you leave

>>25302471
But how does he know who these FMCs are if he never read the novels from being afraid of women or whatever?

>>25302556
because he still jerks off to their danbooru tags

>PIRATEABA resold The Wandering Inn and Fae and Fare to David Pomerico at Harper Voyager US via Drew Gilmour of Achilles Literary Agency.
Another major victory for one of the largest traditional publishers.

>Three books inARCANE CADENCE’s New Life As a Max Level Archmage series went to Rhett Bruno at Aethon & Vault. Damian Wassel will edit.
You WILL give in to traditional publishing.

>>25302611
Looked into this. Both of them are limited publishing rights. Wandering Inn is English and USA only not even UK.
Archmage is also limited and Aethon & Vault is doing a comic book adaption.
IP is retained and no other adaption rights were signed.
This is a victory for winnies. Tradpub is giving in to winnies with better contracts than what tradpub authors normally get. A tradpub author has to go to the publishing gatekeepers and be allowed in. Wiinnies just do their thing and when they're big enough to get physical they can shop around for offers.

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Bros..

>>25302680
Uh, rights are usually only sold to only one region at a time. Do you think one house is responsible for global distribution? No, the publishers of other countries need to buy the local publishing rights too.

>>25302781
>Lizardfuckers & Bugsodomizers

>>25302781
>has sex with a oversized cockreoach in your path

>>25302781
why do all the women have FAS faces

>>25302784
>>25302786
The schizo part of me says it's a psyop to promote interracial since human men would prefer human women hook up with other humanoids like orcs and elves over lizards and fucking insects.

>>25302431
Fmc is just good if she isn't the actual MC
But the protagonist of the original novel, our MC transmigrated to.

Peak waifus there.

What are gu?

>>25302982
gu gu ga ga

>>25302442
There are a lot of people constantly pushing FMC novels in the wider WN space and here. As a result there are numerous people who will avoid FMC stories and will say so when they get recommended a list of exclusively FMC stories.

Eventually the FMC pushers will win, WNs will get taken over by trad publishers and the male audience dries out. Then we'll have another set of articles about "men aren't reading books anymore and mysteriously nobody (in the publishing industry) knows why"

>>25302988
https://archive.is/20250625195754/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/25/style/fiction-books-men-reading.html
>Why Did the Novel-Reading Man Disappear?
>Men are leaving fiction reading behind. Some people want to change that.

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>>25302431
Decided to push this out after working for a few months:
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/169923/scorched-shape-the-simple-record-of-unyielding
Like I have nothing to lose, if it goes horribly, I can always relaunch.

>>25302611
>Another major victory for one of the largest (((traditional publishers)))
Hella epic news to hear about.

>>25302988
holy retard
fmc is written mostly by men and for men

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>>25303002
maybe if you got rid of that yee yee ass cover youd get some bitches on your book

>>25303067
Props anon.
Yeah, the cover is not ideal, but I would literally prefer anything over typical AI slop.

>>25303002
the millenial hoodrat is correct
I think the 3d shapes and crown are actually charming. the eye is ugly as hell and the typography is terrible
you're almost onto something with this cover but you gotta refine it

>>25303101
think it might just better without the text?

>>25303105
I'm neither of the two but it looks busy, as if you're trying to fill as much space as you can. Personally, I don't see the point of whatever the three triangles are, and think it would look better with the title and crown/eye symbol, maaaybe leave the bottom text. I like the crown/eye myself.

>>25303002
>if it goes horribly
How else could it go if you do everything in your power to drive away readers? Relaunching isn't going to fix that.

>>25302988
>Then we'll have another set of articles about "men aren't reading books anymore and mysteriously nobody (in the publishing industry) knows why"
Yes, but yuri status?

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>>25303116
to clarify, my issue isn't with the design but with the execution
the objects are very 90s 3d computer graphics which has a certain appeal (though it feels sorta twee). the eye just looks like ass
the design of the eye in the crown is actually pretty cool, just the execution here is off
I kinda like how busy it is. evokes a pulp noir movie poster look with the stinger and tagline
I think there's good ideas and compositional sense here but it's just all sorta executed shittily

> I don't see the point of whatever the three triangles are
It represents the collapse of hierarchy.
But yeah maybe removing it would be better.
>>25303329
I don't know how to fix it.
I might revert to a map.
>>25303342
Maybe I just don't have the confidence to have crown alone.

>>25303342
I agree with most of this but I can sum it up better. It looks like something knocked up in 10 minutes in Paint. It's not the worst or most childish cover I've seen, but it comes close.

>>25303385
has Paint3D really come so far it is able to handle light reflection?

>>25303116
I agree with >>25303342 and >>25303385 but I'm posting for a better way to frame what the cover is. What you've made is basically a storyboard. If you took that, and you paid some Singaporean guy $150 on whatever website of your choice for a comm plus commercial rights, they could polish it into an actually marketable cover. It's a great composition that's just lacking technical fidelity. The word for this is "sovl" typically but it's RR so you need a bit more than sovl to catch eyes unfortunately.

>>25303355
>I don't know how to fix it.
It's not just about the cover (which is ass, yes). Your title isn't descriptive. Your synopsis says nothing about the story. You're not giving any reason to read it.

>>25303390
The light reflections are hardly fixing the fundamental issues with the cover. Shining shit still means it's shit.

>>25303402
moron

With how many people talk about writing here I'm surprised no one has written something popular yet

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>>25303446
Ten Thousand Tragedies [Xianxia Timeloop] by NMR-3
it's peak

>>25303452
An anon wrote this?

>>25303458
>he hasn't learned the tells that signals a retarded nonsense post
lurk moar

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>>25303458
spreadsheet anon says so

>>25303458
>reading anything described as "peak"
It's likely an RIspammer endorsement and should safely be ignored on top of that.

>>25303461
>>25303468
>schizos are schizoing out because someone used a word

>>25303471
lolcows physically cannot restrain themselves from acting like attention seeking retards. yes, you should assume anyone using a zoomer buzzword in a low poster count general of a niche in an already unpopular hobby is going to be one of few dip shits

>>25303471
>buzzword spam
Exactly my point, RIfag.

>>25303471
Anyone that uses a single word to critique a story should always be ignored and regarded as neurologically damaged.

>>25303002
I'm sorry my cover detailed this thread.

>>25303463
how come spreadhead are no longer included in top

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>>25303002
This is what your cover looks like on a phone where 95% of the RR audience is reading.

>>25303557
Yoooo this nigga actually charging his phone in real time.

>>25303446
What is "popular" to you? Where is the cutoff line between popular and not popular? There are a couple of anons with like 4k followers and over. How is that not popular enough?

>>25303573
it will never be enough
webnovel culture has become a melting pot that melds grifters and number autists to create the ultimate metric obsessed monkeys
the line must go up

>>25302988
Just stop reading western slop and you'll be fine. The Korean and the Chinese hate women and gays and unironically their webnovel industry is doing very good. You know who these femMC 'writers' are. Identify who has got an agenda and move on. It took them a while to catch up but the niche is (theirs) now.

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>>25303557
It's actually worse than that.

>>25303557
I don't see an issue

>>25303514
Because he was a schizo, and he also didn't update it frequently enough.

>>25303645
nta, but good covers can communicate things about the story from thumbnail size. The covers in >>25303642 for example, you get the impression that the archmage story is probably gonna be a cozy SoL while most of the other covers signal they're gonna be more action-oriented. Metaworld Hopecore doesn't real signal anything to me, which is probably why its not doing particularly well if its well written.

>>25303573
>There are a couple of anons with like 4k followers and over.
Who? I mean people who actually claim ownership and are at least pseudo-regulars
I am here a lot and don't remember anyone showing up with a big story besides the anon who accidentally doxxed themselves on the top ongoing page.

>>25303708
Anyone with a larger story won't post here as a regular because it will destroy their reputation and credibility.

>>25303708
>people who actually claim ownership and are at least pseudo-regulars
You're moving goalposts here. Many authors stopped naming themselves in the threads thanks to the spreadsheet schizo. But there are several undeniably big works on the list and their creators did post in the threads at some point. There was that one successful guy too, who always bragged about his success but never linked his fic, but the schizo ID'd him. He's obviously anon too.

>>25303716
I should become the new spreadsheet schizo

>>25303720
it's kinda nice that people are sharing their writing and talking about their stories again
spreadsheet schizo killed creative discussion here which left shitposting, reader posts, and reader posts (shitposts)

>>25303737
I'll just maintain a list of people who post their stories here.
Exported as an image.

>>25303751
That's really all the guy needed to do. A simple list of fiction name and author. Is the story ongoing or dropped, for the reader's convenience. Everything else anons can check for themselves. If a story is deleted, then delete it also from the list. They probably wanted to disappear for a reason.

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>>25303822
Alright, gathering data

>>25303834
And this helicopter monitoring is why I don't post my works here.

>>25303834
I could swear Skulltaker was from here but the guy hasn't posted in a while, at least hasn't identified himself
no shock there

>>25303834
are you doing this for the attention or is there some mental illness that drives this behavior

>>25303836
The difference is that you can tell me the name of your fiction and I'll not track you.
Every person who does this saves me work.

>>25303846
I generally want to know who all posts here. Many people do.

>>25303846
yes, autism makes you like charts and compiling data

>>25303847
>voluntarily give up info and I won't do <thing>
You sound like the original spreadsheet fag. I'm not some dumb side character in your book.

>>25303851
Alright, well if you've ever posted your story it will likely end up in the list. If anyone wants me to stop tracking them, they will be in the list as untracked.

>>25303857
>if you've ever posted your story
I haven't because of you.
>If anyone wants me to stop tracking them, they will be in the list as untracked
Yep, obvious samefag. Insufferable narcissistic birth defect in real life.

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>>25303834
god you people are so fucking stupid. what the hell is wrong with you
be normal god damn it is not that hard

>>25302431
since apparently the only way to make sure something is done right, I'm making a bin for /wng/ fics
reply to this post if you want your fic hosted in a bin and added to the OP
I'll update every month or two and remove people in case they change their minds
hopefully having some sort of list of local authors will cause the 40 year old data entry specialists to stop shivering and shaking for a desire to gangstalk people (seriously, a excel spreadsheet?)

>>25303716
Nah, those are the natural places to put the goalposts and should've been assumed.
If theyve only ever posted once to advertise, who cares? And if they dont associate publicly, they might just be larping.

>>25303873
Is this Obsidian? You're alright, anon.

>>25303873
>>25303869
Not the spreadsheet schizo.

>>25303876
not that anon
I love everything about Obsidian except for the text formatting
I would be using it if I could write in it and copypaste without having the obnoxiously redo all the formating

>>25303834
It should be opt in you actual moron, that was the complaint from the beginning.

>>25303877
>instant defensive uppity narcissistic "I'm going to do what I want regardless" attitude
You adopt the persona, you become the same.

>>25303877
dumb fuck. stop

>>25303880
Alright, sure. I'll make it opt-in only.
I automatically assumed anyone advertising their shit here already wanted to be opted in.
Please disregard the fact that I suck cocks.

>>25303849
>I post on the anonymous website because I want to know who posts here
Why

>>25303889
He's new.

>>25303889
The very second you post a link to your RR fiction you de-anon yourself.
>>25303888
I'll opt-in if others opt-in first.

>>25303888
If you want opted in, at any time post.
>I would like to be added to the new spreadsheet.
I'll search this exact sentence in the archive.
Obviously, post a link to your fiction.

>>25303894
there's an assumption that if you post in a thread that it's ephemeral
>everything on the internet is permanent
taking the premise of the thread in bad faith to justify weird behavior. people want to casually chat anonymously and share their creative work in the creative general. it's shitty and kills the room when people start having to always be wary of narcs
just don't be a stalking freak. this shit should not have to be explained

>>25303897
I would like to be added to the new spreadsheet. :)
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/118891/new-life-as-a-max-level-archmage

>>25303905
>and share their creative work
Putting it in a list to repost as new people arrive continues to share that work.
I have no idea why you consider taking a snapshot of a page's current metrics to be "stalking" them.
It's moot either way, the list is currently empty, and will be opt in only.

>>25303905
>should not have to be explained
A common trait within narcissists is the complete and total lack of boundaries including other people's private lives.

>>25303908
>https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/118891/new-life-as-a-max-level-archmage
Denied on the basis it is highly unlikely that this post is from the author.
You can verify by posting the single word "verification", to Chapter 85 in the bottom author notes.

>>25303913
>posting on the internet
>private life

>>25303911
stop what you're doing and let me handle it. you're evidently new to the thread and out of touch with the culture >>25303915 (obvious joke post that you'd immediately recognize if you posted here or knew anything about webnovels)
seriously, you clearly are not the right person for this

>>25303916
Yes yes, save your narcissistic need to endlessly debate for your family, if you have one of those. I suspect narcissism runs in your family and for that I am deeply sorry.

>>25303917
I see the "newfag" guy is still here

>>25303921
nta

>>25303922
I'm not newfag schizo but this guy shouldn't be trying to organize a community resource because evidently he doesn't know how the last spreadsheet schizo fucked up the thread and he is getting fooled by the most obvious shitpost. it's a relevant talking point not some random off the wall gotcha

>>25303917
You're free to handle it.
It's easy enough for me to simply not make the spreadsheet.
It is now personally your responsibility.

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>>25303922
Coming to 4chan after 2016 does not make you old. Is this the RInigger? Wouldn't be surprised.

>>25303933
surprisingly civil and reasonable. appreciated

>>25303937
It actually is the "newfag guy"

>>25303945
he's around but that wasn't me

>>25303945
The thread is healthier without incessant newfaggotry like yours who demand total surveillance over everyone else.

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>>25303955
I've actually been around 4chan for about 20 years. I know that telling you this means nothing, and that I need pictures to prove my statements.
But the fact your didn't accept...
>Please disregard the fact that I suck cocks.
...as an objective apology tells me that at the very least I've been around 4chan longer than you have.
Often the people I talk to on the chans are younger than the time I've spent in them. I've been around through Project Chanology, eighteighteightchan, ED, Invasion Chan, CWCki, and now KiwiFarms.
Sorry, mate, but that's just the objective truth. You can call me a newfag if you want. Just realize it means absolutely nothing. I know how long I've been here, and I can just chuckle sensibly at your posts.
I have, however, only been around /lit/ for like 6 months. In that sense, I'd call myself a /lit/ winterfag. That's fair.

>>25303955
I find your newfag complaint spamming easily as annoying as the other morons

>>25303982
you're getting baited by a resident shitposter

>>25303982
I saw that post and I did not respond to that post for that very reason.
>>25303990
I find inflammatory newfag commentary over the past 15 years to be insufferable and do not understand why people cannot participate within a discussion without bad faith acting.

>>25303917
>obvious joke post
Was it? The MLA author has definitely posted here

>>25303994
>everything I don't like is BAIT
This is an example of the exact behavior I describe.

>>25303998
>everything I dont like is NEWFAG
>because people who spend 20+ years on 4chan are the most stable, polite posters!

>>25303998
regardless if it's disingenuous or a sincere expression of a personality that can't help raging in hope of replies, it's bait
you post in the thread all the time and when you start sperging out like a low impulse control chimp, you always repeat the same talking points and phrases almost verbatim. you're a known quantity. you get treated like a belligerent retard because you act like one

I swear you guys just want an excuse to argue. The guy already acknowledged the issue and handed the reigns to someone else. It's not another spreadsheet schizo, so chill out already.

>>25304001
I never claimed to be stable or polite.

>>25304001
>newfag doesn't understand pattern recognition and reacts aggressively when he is noticed using one of the most popular buzzwords over the past 15 years
sasuga
>>25304002
>generic derogatory commentary
When will you be writing my biography? Your kind would be appalled if you posted here in the 2000s when this "behave as shitty as possible to everybody else" behavior was not the norm.

>>25304003
I think that's resolved and the channel got flipped to newfag-schizo spamming. just another filler episode

>>25304004
you treat being an old fag like its a good thing which implies a less shitty personality
newfags are probably healthier additions to a general, overall. 20 years on 4chan fucks someone up
(as you demonstrate regularly)

>>25304009
There is at least one, maybe multiple anons in this thread who engage in newfag rhetoric then immediately shit up the thread lashing out and responding to each and every single post mentioning their erratic newfag behavior. In the 2000s the underageb& had the basic critical thinking skills to not tell everybody how young and new they are at every occasion. Of course, much of this is enabled due to the cessation of bans for being underage and the moderation that purposely encourages low-quality posting.

>>25304009
>I Spammed My Favorite Buzzword on 4chan.org and Anon is Still Responding Instead of Writing on the Floor in Physical Agony!

>>25304009
Man, I hate filler reruns. How about we talk about something else then.
Honeyfeed is going to do monthly oneshots again on the first. 5 to 6k words written with the prompt in mind. Winners get $100, put on their Novelous app, and possibly publication in good ol' Nippon. Could be a good chance for people here to put themselves out there, get some experience, and maybe cultivate an audience.

>>25304012
Dude I see you throwing this exact derail tantrum almost threadly. You are guilty of exactly what you are complaining about
So much for oldfags knowing better

>>25304020
I almost replied to the creature again but your post made me chuff and I stopped myself
LN title posting is as amusing as young master posting
thank you for your service

>>25304022
>no u
Exactly. This is the extent of 4chan discourse longer than it hasn't, and you expect me to sit idly and be okay with it? Stupid.

>>25304021
its the webnovel thread not the webshortstory thread

>>25304021
oh that's interesting
I'm kinda clean when it comes to that word count range. might check it out

>>25304024
Dude, you have no idea how much the modern newfag resembles the typical "young master" archetype in my head. They spam their favorite buzzword like it will cause physical pain toward someone in real life and act absolutely nonplussed whenever they receive any other response that doesn't enable their bizarre psychotic rhetoric. They generally believe they can do whatever they want in real life to other people with no consequence which is an appalling notion to consider the implications of.

>>25303712
I just don't want to be associated with the mentally-ill retards that have made these threads their home.
It's not that deep.

>>25304021
The most popular stories on that app have like 500 reads.

>>25304026
Can I call you a newfag for constantly shitting the thread up, then? Or is it okay because it's you and you have a special pass?

>>25304039
>if anybody notices me using one of the same ten most popular buzzwords over the past 15 years then they are shitting up the thread
Exactly. There is no civil discourse with your kind. All you have to do is use other words and you fit in. It's that simple. Be creative.

>>25304035
hundred bucks is a hundred bucks
can do worse doing contest writing
can also do much, much better but you can certainly do worse
and who knows, maybe you'll be the first gaijin to have their novel get an anime adaptation

>>25304042
I am not whoever you think you're responding to. But samefag assuming like that really is newfaggotry

>>25304044
stop engaging with it

>>25304021
Oh, and I almost forgot. The event host will be offering editorial feedback/review, which is always nice.
>>25304035
You get both them and Honeyfeed. And while those numbers aren't huge by any means, the readers seem like they are a lot more responsive.

>>25304044
>nta
Sure.

>>25304043
>and who knows, maybe you'll be the first gaijin to have their novel get an anime adaptation
The first western story, and a royalroad on at that, already did this. It was The Beginning After the End. There was another anime, that WW1 steampunk one that also got adapted. I almost watched it, but I read every 3 eps it adapted new books and the story turned to shit because of that. The Beginning After the End suffered pretty badly as well from a YT video I watched on it once.

>>25304043
I thought of Cradle for a second but it got a webtoon instead. And I believe it was unofficial.
I hope anon stops engaging with me and spamming his fallacies, and we can get back to book discussion.

Shitposts and internet spats aside, would anyone here be interested in reading a near-future scifi story heavy on philosophy of transhumanism, government overreach, "the greater good", terrorism, exponential technology acceleration, mixed with gratuitous gunfights and cute girls?

>>25304058
he does it all the time, just ignore him
trailer trash also got a web comic going on webtoon

;__; My books would probably make a good anime, but they aren't LitRPG so my chances are nonexsitant.

>>25304058
you ooze desperation to have arguments. it was over and then you begged for more. what is wrong with you?

>>25304061
maybe if the transhumanism aspect were cool but not really my thing
seems like a niche story that wouldn't appeal to slop readers
if it's your heart's desire you should write it anyway

>>25304064
https://automaton-media.com/en/news/kadokawa-cites-excessive-reliance-on-the-isekai-genre-as-one-of-the-major-causes-of-the-decline-in-profitability-in-its-domestic-publishing-business/
When even Kadokawa realizes it, you know there might be a paradigm shift in the next couple years, but who knows.

>>25304065
Why would you tell someone to stop engaging with me and then respond to me with more fallacious assumptions of my mental state? Getting the last word in means nothing.
Discuss books or keep your dicksucker closed.

>>25304076
desperate

>>25304064
Are they still power fantasies with a main character people could self insert with?

>>25304078
Your turn.

>>25304079
More or less yeah. :P
I wouldn't necessarily call it progression fantasy though. Not anymore than any fantasy character gains power from equipment, training, and spells.
It has monster summoner elements though, I hear that's popular. XD

>>25304071
>seems like a niche story that wouldn't appeal to slop readers
That's okay, I'm still busy with my other story that is intended to appeal to Slop readers. Just gauging the general interest.

>>25304084
>emoticons
a rare breed
summoner is an vidya archetype (and therefore a litRPG trope) but I wouldn't say it's popular or trending. cool though, I like summoners

>>25304088
>calls it emoticons before anything else
A truly rare breed.

>>25304073
>https://automaton-media.com/en/news/kadokawa-cites-excessive-reliance-on-the-isekai-genre-as-one-of-the-major-causes-of-the-decline-in-profitability-in-its-domestic-publishing-business/
Oh that is really interesting.

>>25304088
Well summoner in the pokemon / digimon sense.

>>25304073
Isekai =/= LitRPG. Though, I feel like it's less sub-genre fatigue and more like increased awareness of the signs of bad quality. People still like good superhero movies, and people still like good isekais.
>>25304084
Nice :D
If the monsters are cute, you have prime material for a webtoon/manga at the very least. Affinity for merchandise is no joke.

>>25304092
tamer would be the term. that's a trope too. basically any video game concept you can think of has been litRPG'd
not a trend but tamer stories do pop up on rising stars from time to time
even though I conceptually like the set up I haven't read any. I feel like I haven't seen a tamer story that didn't immediately repulse me for seeming nauseatingly quirk chungus

>>25304097
Some would be cute. :3
But because of the way my magic system works, there aren't specific, like, "mons". Two people using the same series of steps would create two different creatures. Don't know if that is to my benefit or detriment.

>>25304102
>Two people using the same series of steps would create two different creatures
personality based? my magic system is doing something similar
people like personality based powers but I think the personality power crowd might have divergent desires from the hard magic system crowd. the points of appeal are different

>>25304100
When I think of LitRPG, I don't think of "something that has been a game mechanic before". Rather stats, skills, and abilities being the driving factor of character growth. I character with numerically represented or tabulated progress is what I personally associate with LitRPG. o, ,o
>I feel like I haven't seen a tamer story that didn't immediately repulse me for seeming nauseatingly quirk chungus
It's sky pirates with gemstones that can cast magic and turn into monsters. Basically Skies of Arcadia with extra steps.
...
Maybe it is LitRPG. XD

>>25304102
That's to your benefit. It allows people to fantasize what kind of mon they'd make and gives your MC more wiggle room for why they get the uniquely strong one.

>>25304106
Yep, so for magic system discussion. They come in 10 colors (elemental types), and 20 emotional dispositions (think pokemon natures). A mixture of what the summoner wants, and what the gemstone wants becomes the result.
An engineer would create a monster that is an automata, or tool. A pilot might get a vehicle. A zookeeper might get just like a fox or something.

>>25304107
not that any game mechanic you think of can be used to define litRPG, but that any game mechanic, trope, or archetype has been put within the framework of litRPG
be it actual mechanics, character builds/archetypes, world features (dungeons, guilds, etc), atmosphere or whatever
I suppose that more recent games trends haven't been. someone should snatch up the first friendslop litRPG

>>25304092
You should get into Shin Megami Tensei if you want actual summoning (before -mons, even.) Like other anon said, they're more tamers.

>>25304112
Why Palia or My Time At Portia hasn't been turned into a litrpg story is beyond me

>>25304126
>frame of reference for slice of life le cozy farming game is Palia and Portia
wtf
pretty sure that these do exist. slow life stories are often just thinly veiled harvest moon styled homesteading stories, and there are definitely slow life litRPGs

>>25304133
But performing gamebreaking exploits to farm materials really fast to speed run relationship tiers to min-max the number of waifu's to manage my glowworm farm.

>>25304156
scum MC that's minmaxing relationship gain and using exploits to basically date rape the whole village is one hell of a dark comedy premise

>>25304166
>It ends with everyone in the village pregnant
>Yes, even the men and animals
Nothin' personel.

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>>25304166
first her

>>25303905
>>there's an assumption that if you post in a thread that it's ephemeral
Anon, this is a very classical mindset and I respect it but it hasn't really been true in the past 15 years with the Fuuka archive system.

And frankly, it turned out to not be fucking true before then anyway given we have archives for posts from 2006 as seen on old.sage.moe. There is no ephemerality anymore and there hasn't been since probably 2004-2005.

Sorry to break it to you.

>>25303834
>>25303873
Genuine question, but wouldn't it be more efficient to make a submission method only findable via thread lurking but not just posting, so as to not disrupt the flow by people advertising? I'd say Google Forms but that's a big deanonymizer and I'm not sure what low-stress alternatives there are for a form system you could fill out that automatically populates a read-only spreadsheet.

>>25304187
it would be trivial to write a scrapper to get all of the posts mentioning royalroad, run sentiment analysis on the post and posts they quote to determined if they are the fiction of the poster, take the scrapped list and bot across royalroad to pull their statistical data, then automatically upload all of the information to a vercel app
but who would do all that

>>25304217
I think that's a lot more effort than something like waiting til a thread hits a threshold of posts randomly determined each new thread before posting the submission link and anons there can submit their link, and it goes through to some very basic rentry table that displays the basic stats (Link, name, author, followers, rating). But I also am a nocoder so there's probably a bunch of intermediary steps I'm missing.

I finally did it
I finally achieve a scene as horny as if not hornier than an explicit sex scene while technically, strictly speaking, being safe for work. How? By putting images in the reader's head without spelling it out, duh. Set up that the character has a shrinkwrap latex-ass getup becuase uhhh magic
then excessively describe how there's condensation on it and how the character keeps doing leg spreads, because uhhh hip abductor machine
Non-apple-rotators need not apply

>>25304197
>disrupt the flow by people advertising?
I worry a bit that the thread implicitly condoning promotion will cause more shilling and advertising but clearly having no fic list incites weird posts as well (which admittedly might just be bad actors trying to create an advertising platform for themselves)
people usually are tasteful in how they promote. either transparently shilling, or sharing in a seemingly sincere and earnest way. most of the time people share their story once on launch and that's it, maybe poking in to mention it once more a few months later
those who aren't tasteful have demonstrated that they will spam advertising posts no matter how the thread reacts. these people have bad personalities and will be antisocial no matter what
>more efficient
sure but 1. I'm retarded and 2. do you really trust a codemonkey to be prosocial? the human touch of someone actually listening to requests to be added would go some ways to reduce antisocial behavior like trying to flood the list with false entries
I'll do the bin thing for a bit and see how people feel about it. unlike the (first) spreadsheet schizo, I'm not attached to it or think I'm doing some sort of necessary civil good that overrides other people's opinions. if it doesn't work out then things can be changed or just abandoned entirely

>>25304245
I can viscerally smell how much you were sweating while excitedly typing this post anon. Glad you are enjoying yourself.

>>25304245
>Non-apple-rotators need not apply
I have a suspicion that your horny scene isn't that sexy
I have a rich inner apple myself but I feel that effective erotic writing tends to be super descriptive
I'd be interested in reading an excerpt if you're down to post some of it

>>25304251
of course i'm sweating it's 30C out
but yes i am also very horny for my main character, at least when i write these scenes

>>25304246
You are right about the false entry risk. My big thought is I do think letting anons note down that they've made something is great. When I posted my winnie I got some good feedback that's been constructive and is leading to positive developments no my work. I also think that it's important in the same way /agdg/ tried to keep track of actually published game devs was, it helped let roots in places be recognized.

>>25304257
it's highly descriptive it just doesn't have "AND SHE LEFT AN IMPRINT OF HER FAT FUCKING ASS ON THE GYM BENCH" type direct statements

>>25304225
oh no I you run it on all past posts as well schizo style
>but we don't want that
someone could make it easily with vibecode lol
it would be totally batshit and people would hate it

>>25304271
lol
maybe you should

>>25304278
no i am physically incapable of writing breasting boobily type prose if i'm horny writing i'm gonna do it with artism, proper fart huffingly like

>>25304283
>coomteur that won't compromise on his fartistic vision
I kneel...

>>25304293
i write one or two "the author is horny about the main character again" scenes per book, i must make sure they're good

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Just hit this at about 130k words across the span of 40 days. I haven't been able to do an ad campaign yet due to payroll fucking up and delaying my paycheck by a week, and cover hasn't been finished yet (I have a confirmation of month's end). Most of these views are via new releases and social media spamming (Always posting when a new chapter's released, and linking it under any tweet I make that gets successful) plus a few shout-out swaps from larger winnies.

What's the prognosis, anons? New cover and an ad campaign able to make it salvageable or should I accept it's probably not gonna surge any time soon even with ads? I'm not expecting greatness, but it'd be good to know where I should balance my priorities from here.

>>25304403
ads arent really worth it unless theyre used to get you onto Rising Stars
its really really tough to see meaningful growth without RS to get you an initial readerbase. there arent many people scouring sub 1k follower fictions

>>25304403
you missed your chance

reupload the whole thing with the new cover and ad, it will probably work

>>25304413
That's been my biggest hurdle. I can't really figure out where to actually find followers. The forum is all writers, not readers. The circles that supposedly help with growth are also... all writers, not readers. Some writers do follow (I follow a few myself), but the readers don't really communicate.

Allegedly on social media it's the best bet, but I've looked around and unless you're in the pockets of an influencer, there's no real way to naturally put your winnie in front of anyone.

>>25304417
I'm probably going to re-evaluate my situation once all the stuff I've gotten commissioned comes in. Odds are high I might just re-launch. It might upset the 13 followers I have but... none of them communicate so they're not exactly people I put much weight on. I appreciate them reading but their word of mouth would do a lot for me.

I have 50 chapters published and 3 more queued, which means I'd have a nice big bulwark for just setting them all on a daily and have them come out that way while I run a couple ads.

It's a little frustrating to have to even consider it, but that's trying to make it in a buyer's market for you.

>>25304427
>I can't really figure out where to actually find followers.
You find them by hitting Rising Stars. You hit Rising Stars by launching correctly, running ads, and having a story people want to read
Shrimple as. Anyone telling you otherwise is wrong or talking about 1 in 100 exceptions

>>25304427
relaunching is always worth it until you make it to RS, you have genuinely nothing to lose

those 13 followers you've got probably haven't read anything, it's just a way to bookmark it for later

>>25304431
bodied that loser

>>25304431
>>25304432
I respect the blunt answers, anons, thank you. I'll look into it once my cover's done. Always sucks to admit I screwed up the first time, but it didn't kill me so I can always try again.

>>25304431
There's actually one other way that isn't 1 in 100, and it's very very slowly accruing followers and always getting 5 star ratings until you show up in the best rated lists instead. Those get a lot of traffic too
You have to write very quality fiction for that though

>>25304449
I like to think I'm good but I can't delude myself and pretend I'd get 5 stars from every single person that reads it. I mostly have 5 stars (I have one random 2.5 star rating with no feedback) but that doesn't really mean anything when it's less than 10 ratings anyway, that could entirely just be a handful of people who happened to like what they saw. It's unhealthy to shit on your own work but it's also unhealthy to delude yourself and think you're the cream of the crop and have an unrecognized masterpiece.

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Do you guys not like your stories if you're fine with just deleting them or dropping them?
Or this constant "relaunching" thing.
Why not just keep writing?

>>25304485
I'm not gonna stop writing. And frankly, I see the relaunch as specifically a labor of love for the story.

Stories exist to be told, but also to be heard. If it's only told but unheard, is the story really there? Would be a bit unfair to starve it of being heard, don't you think?

>>25304492
>I see the relaunch as specifically a labor of love for the story.
Is it? Relaunching sounds like cope because you don't like the arbitrary metrics some greedy machine gave you.
>If it's only told but unheard, is the story really there?
It's only unheard if you have 0 readers. I don't know why you think millions of people owe you their time.

>>25304498
I think frequent relaunching would be an unfair coping mechanism. Doing it once, I think, would be closer to just a deep breath and giving it one more shove. If it doesn't work at that point, just writing is fine so long as you recognize it's not going anywhere.

I don't think I'm owed anyone's time, but it'd be nice to give it a more appropriate launch without the slipshod effort of the first go around. If the same thing happens again, then whatever it got before was, objectively, well-merited and worth accepting.

>>25304485
what exactly do you think you're losing out on by relaunching

How do you guys like your dungeon designs in webslop?
Where on the scale from
>straight no-frills vidya
to
>scientifically plausable self-sustaining ecosystem
do you fall?

>>25304498
This is certainly cope on your part

>>25304511
My dungeons are skinnerboxes meant to invite adventurer tourism to boost demand for potions and inn. The skeletons and zombies are constantly restocked and chests are refilled with paltry sums of money.

>>25304498
>I don't know why you think millions of people owe you their time.
This is the author version of incels putting pussy on a pedestal
You 100% get no bitches (readers)

>>25304511
I don't care so long as it's justified and characters don't become slaves to the authors fantasy. do your world building

>>25304485
getting on the heckin' grindset is more important than anything else

What would Spectral Soul do in this situation?

Not be an autistic shitposter.

can i get a qrd on the What would Spectral Soul do in this situation? ritualpost
who is Spectral Soul?

>>25304766
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=%22spectral+soul%22

>>25304511
Dungeons are like the boss monster's pocket dimension. If the boss is an orc, the dungeon becomes a tribal land with scattered strongholds of orcs. If it's a death knight, it's a graveyard of undead. You get the idea.

Like I'd post a link to my RR work here. I gather good ratings organically. I can see some nut 1-bombing me just on principle.

>>25304511
ecosystem for dungeon core stories. cohesively themed areas otherwise

the problem I have with LITRPG is that the system existing never makes any sense in the story at all, unless the world is a literal video game in the first place
hand-waving it as "a god/alien did it" is such a cop-out

>>25304904
it's because most of the authors are retarded. they don't understand that 'systems' exist as a means for a completely normal fantasy setting to have a consistent, structured tabletop experience. you have to gamify the setting to make a game, but the gamified elements are not part of the setting. if you're writing a story then you are not making a game and game elements do not belong anywhere near it.

>>25304904
have some whimsy
>my autism prevents me from suspending my disbelief
you are doomed

>>25304919
T>Imagine thinking UI isn't a narrative device in [current year].
It's not a tabletop adaptation. The system is the medium. Millions of kids grew up with a HUD overlaying their entire cognitive perception of achievement. LitRPG just turned that brainrot into a literary genre.

>>25304921
suspending disbelief still requires justification

what if the LITRPG system has nothing to do with the story/setting itself and is only the UI for the reader, not the protagonist?

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>jeets have discovered webnovel sites and are now using slopbots to shit them up
We had a great run, guys, but I don't think anyone could predict the consequences of billions of indians suddenly being connected to the internet.

>>25304933
definitively the opposite actually
if you have autism it's fine but it does mean you can never enjoy fiction more inventive and fantastic than a walk to the grocery store

>>25304939
that's what that mecha card game guy posted and people seemed fairly sure it wasn't litrpg

>>25304942
We have romantasy and booktoks as the last line of defense. The West has not fallen yet.

>>25304939
could be interesting
like an interactivefic where the readers are the only ones that can access the system

>>25304958
i had an idea for something similar to this, where in the plot the system is diffuse and can't be directly interacted with, but could still technically be enumerated
and you just list it as a patreon reward as an optional companion guide as a look behind-the-scenes of the mechanics behind each chapter

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It only took me years of day dreaming and 10 months of writing everything leading up to it and I get to finally show off my cool space fleet battle chapters I always wanted to write... I'm so happy bros...

>>25304413
>there arent many people scouring sub 1k follower fictions
I do this all the time. I search for the tags I like, set minimum pages to 100-500, and then search. Sometimes I order by number of pages, sometimes by latest update, sometimes I leave it on default. Then I go through a few pages of results and open the tabs of stories that seem interesting that I haven't checked out yet.

Even simple tags like "magic, multiple lovers" and "exclude female lead" only gives you some 20 pages of results. That might seem like a lot at first, but I've read many of them over the decade+ I've used the site. Then discard the ones that have elements that don't seem interesting or they have a boring start and there actually aren't that many stories that fit these simple criteria.

"Strong lead, magic, multiple lovers" liked to 400+ pages and set search to "completed, active" gives you only 4 pages of results. If you take the harem tag away you end up at 30 pages or so, but it's still pretty easy to end up with a combination of relatively popular tags with few stories in the niche.

I don't see why you would ever look at the follower count of a story. Other people probably don't like what you like. And if you do only like things that others like then you should be taking your suggestions from booktok anyway.

>>25304403
Publishing the story without a cover was probably the biggest mistake you made. If the story is good then adding a cover later will mitigate it by just collecting readers over time, but it's an unsolvable problem - it's going to haunt you for a long while.

Imagine going on youtube and you get the choice of watching a video with a thumbnail and one without an edited thumbnail. You will almost always pick the former.

>>25304971
I'll look through low follower stories but not low page count

>>25304403
You are doing good, retard.

DON'T STOP

>>25304976
>Imagine going on youtube and you get the choice of watching a video with a thumbnail and one without an edited thumbnail. You will almost always pick the former.
I will always pick the unedited thumbnail over some edited ai garbage.

>>25304933
You'd never make it three pages into classic books like Alice in Wonderland, or Wizard of Oz if you expected anything to be justified

>>25304876
You'd have to be popular for anyone to care enough to bomb you. Kicking someone already in the sewers isn't very meaningful. Unless you decide to be a schizo about it like kinoman

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post webnovel covers
good, interesting, eye catching, unique. anything inspiring or worth talking about
I've started procrastinating writing and ideating with cover daydreams
I think The Cabin Is Always Hungry has one of the best covers. distinct as a thumbnail, strong visual identity, communicates the genre and tone. stands out and sets it apart from a column of generic covers while telling you what the story is about

>>25304942
jeets were reading cultivation web novels for a long time or do you specifically mean on RR

>>25305209
>jeets were reading
Great, but the problem was never with then consuming shit.

>>25305235
...and writing. They were winning Webnovel.com awards from the chinks before this thread existed.
RR is also owned by an Israeli. The only western winnie owned sites if you can even call them that are targeted at smut or chiclit.
In this subculture it isn't over. It never even began.

Someone post it I don't have it saved

>>25305242
>They were winning Webnovel.com awards from the chinks before this thread existed.
/wng/ isn't exactly old.

You'll do better if you relaunch properly with a cover and shoutouts lined up

Shoutouts are so gay.

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>>25305247

>>25305260
better than giving money to the israelis for ads

>>25305256
A cover? The current strategy is to change the cover every day to lure in new readers.
If the first AI cover doesn’t make them want to click then surely the 15th one which prominently displays an anime girl’s feet will do the trick.

>>25305242
>They were "winning" chink scams
Ask expected of jeets

if you're sucessfull do you earn the most if you have your story on RR and run a patreon?

>>25305272
Yes, you're successful if you're successful. At least, I've never heard of a case where someone wasn't successful but earned a lot.

>>25305274
So you earn less if you're successful on Webnovel?

>>25305272
if you're really successful, you get a banger patreon on RR, stub to zon, and then feed your patreon/RR with the zon readers. But this is really hard to pull off and most stories just stop growing on RR if they stub

>>25305277
>stop growing on RR if they stub
This doesn't matter, by the time you go to kdp your organic growth on RR would have slowed to a trickle anyway.
Though you could also just never stub and go wide instead. The problem is once you make either choice you're basically stuck with that path.

>>25305269
Saar me write the hardest for the least saar I'll write for free saar saar please let me write butiful saar I'll do the needful beautiful rich saar.

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I guess they didn't like the space fleet battles....

>>25305312
Series?

>>25305319
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/147524/a-game-of-cosmic-titans

>>25305312
Space fleet battles is like, the last fucking thing that'd sell on RR.

People are hard pressed to sell readers a reason to care about their characters, let alone fucking spaceships and their nameless and disposable crews.

>>25305340
womp womp

>>25305331
Oh, it's you bro, Kino-Man here.
Is this the sequel to your tomboy short-story?

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>>25305356
something like that.

>>25305360
Then you ought to put big tiddy tomboys on the cover.
LOGH baiting won't work on Zoomers.

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>>25303002
I dunno if I should expand the prologue or just make part 2 prologue.
It's kinda awkward timing, because I already released chapters 1-2.

>>25305486
Maybe you should've considered such things before pulling the trigger. I can only laugh at you now

>>25305492
sharing your story is exciting be nice
>>25305486
>2 part prologue
are you fucking INSANE

>>25305331
It's rare to see a man with such a boner for space opera. You have my respect, though I won't read any

>>25305495
there's a small but notable subset of RR space operas

>>25305275
By a lot. Biggest WN is probably shadow slave and I think he makes like 50k a month. Zogarth makes 90k on patreon and like 300k on Amazon per month

>>25305074
when she yelled objection i clapped irl

My New Life in a Demented LLM-prompt

How about a time loop story where the protagonist is in two different time loops or maybe an advancing time loop?

>>25305628
it was peak

>>25305312
I'm confused about this kind of chapter read distribution. Does it mean bunch of people read chapter 23 twice?

>>25305700
More people impulse-clicked on it when it came up in recent releases? Not much of a mystery

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>>25305728
I guess, but here's a screenshot from mine. I don't think it's a deep mystery but I do find it kind of puzzling.

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>mfw after months I get a positive review that actually discusses the contents of the fiction
I'm so happy bros. This is what keeps me going

>>25305732
Yes, some do reread chapters. I've heard many commenters say they just sort of skim through the chapter as soon as it goes up and read it again with more attention later when they have time. Completely normal.

>>25305486
What goonshit is that?

>>25305740
how often do people reread from the very beginning after closure of an arc? I’ve tried to embed hints toward something that would only be noticed on a reread, am I rewarding a kind of reader that doesn’t really exist?

>>25305756
I don't understand the question

Open Royal Road.
See Primal Hunter releases a new chapter.
Only ever read the first few chapters.
Impulse click it anyway.
What the hell is this xianxia bullcrap?
Wait, Primal Hunter is now xianxia? Did it become xianxia over time, or has it always been xianxia with western RPG dressing?
Is this why it’s so popular?

>>25305773
It's just stream of consciousness slop read by people who want to waste time reading retarded slop.

>>25305765
Can't say how common it is, but of course it happens. I've even had people email me about dogshit I deleted years ago, saying they wanted to read it again from the beginning.

>>25305773
I don't read it either but from what I can gather the MC is so powerful now he reaching the point where progression can only be compared to high level cultivators.

Another weak MLA chapter, and what a boring finale. There is literally no chapter-to-chapter excitement, so I didn't even realize we were getting to the end of the "book".
Another banger REND chapter, as usual; the last few have been very fun.
Let's see what Wednesday's Cruel Violet brings.

>>25305809
MLA's pacing is atrocious

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>>25305809
>REND

>>25305773
any progfan becomes xianxia over time but PH had bits of it from the start

>>25305823
>the skin and clothes rendering
that cover better have been cheap

>>25305820
Weirdly, I think this is true of every single big serial (like, the ones making more than 10k a month on patreon)
It's only smaller serials that have good pacing. Why is that?

>>25305846
I don't think most winnie readers actually care about pacing. Either they're reading once a day during commute/luncbreak or they binge read like 80 chapters in one go.

>>25305809
Are rend/cruel violet protagonists psychopaths in the way Fang Yuan for example are, or are they psychos but dont actually do evil stuff? How does the story frame it? Might read

>>25305859
the cruel violet foid acts as though she was written by a teenage girl.

>>25305859
REND
>grrrr I love hurting people im so evil and violent I can't stop having evil thoughts im such a bad person
>isn't evil and violent thoughts rarely go anywhere
Cruel Violet
>I want to feel in control I need to feel in control I'm so addicted to having control over who lives and dies everyone is out to get me I need to get them first
>constantly killing people due to paranoia and delusions, 80% of character interactions is gaslighting and negging
they're both a bit eyeroll inducing with how insistent they are but I enjoyed Cruel Violet. I found REND incredibly tedious and didn't enjoy it at all

Gamified novels—known as LitRPG—are a winning format
https://www.economist.com/culture/2026/05/20/gamified-novels-known-as-litrpg-are-a-winning-format

Endorsed by The Economist. Greater popularity is nigh.

>>25305859
Rend MC is pragmatic survivor type so closer to Fang Yuan though not quite the same.
Violet is a mentally ill sadist

>>25305870
They mean actual novels like DCC not winnies right?

>>25305889
no, there are five links to royalroad in the article and it offers a free 7-day premium trial for new users using the code ECONOMIST7
it's over

>>25305870
water is wet
Took them years of seeing litrpg dominate amazon charts to make this article? What a joke

Is there any category shelf so specific and niche as Gamelit/Litrpg on amazon that has so many entries in the top 1000?
It really might be the most money printing niche relative to its obscurity right now

>>25305312
No, your chapter length doubled.