unsullied editionASOIAF wiki: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_PageBlog: https://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/Old blog: https://grrm.livejournal.com/So Spake Martin (interviews): https://westeros.org/citadel/ssm/Book search: https://asearchoficeandfire.com/SSM search: https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=006888510641072775866:vm4n1jrzsdyGeneral search: http://searcherr.work/TWOW samples: https://archive.org/details/411440566-the-winds-of-winter-released-chaptersold: >>25362935
How much of Drogo's cum do you think Daenerys must've tasted for it to come back to her when drinking shade of the evening?
>tfw grrm has no plans for sansa other than to kill her off unceremoniously so benioff and weiss were forced to steal the arya/jeyne poole/alys karstark storylines just so sophie turner could have something to do
>>25393649This is really good stuff. Also, with both Thousand Isles and Brindled Men from Sothoryos, we know humans can be hybridized with non-human races.>>25394364Lol. But the thing with shade-of-the-evening is that it brings out all sorts of flavors. She wouldn't have to swallow that much for it to be brought out magically.Also, note the parallels here to when Bran eats the paste of weirwood seeds, which taste like honey, fresh-fallen snow, cinnamon, and a bunch of other things (but not jizz cause he's not a fag).Also, Pyat Pree states that human lives are like "a flutter of a moth's wing" to the Undying Ones. Likewise, the 3-eyed crow used the same figure of speech for the weirwood's perception of time. And then of course, the trees used for shade-of-the-evening are like reverse weirwoods, with black bark and blue leaves (instead of white bark & red leaves).There's definite connections between the undying/warlocks and the old gods, but that's all I know for sure.On the topic of weirwoods, it's mentioned that those sacrificed to those trees would traditionally have their entrails hung in the branches. And as discussed before, the reference to Shrykes could be a hint that victims were impaled on the giant tree, and it might relate to the City of Winged Men, who knows.
Dragons cannot truly be controlled. They have human wills. They have a bond with their riders only. Each has a distinct mind and personality. It’s sort of like assuming that a Targaryen can be controlled. Dragon and rider are mutually narcissistic, egocentric, full of pride.
>>25394388Sansa will marry Jon....
>>25394388Sansa's death is good for Jon and Rickon. As long as Sansa is alive while she's a puppet she'll be a thorn in their side. Rickon is the rightful lord but I doubt anyone will believe that the young child Davos and Wyman pull out of their ass is the real Rickon (even though we know it is).
>>25394349Why is Stannis still so bitter over Ned? I get that you're embarrassed that you were passed over for the position of Hand but Ned later used that position to basically declare to the entire realm that Joff is illegitimate. He should be grateful for Ned going out on a limb for him.
>>25394914Stannis respects Ned probably as much as a man like him can respect someone. He respects Ned enough that he takes Jon's disrespect (in his eyes) lying down and even comes away trusting his opinion.
>>25394914Its because stannis thinks cat is a thot trying to court renly
>>25394865Rickon has Shaggydog as proof of his identity.
>>25394914>embarrassedYou mean angered. That was the second slight after passing the ancestral seat and Lord Paramountcy of house Baratheon to the youngest brother, Renly. Him being upset about it is pretty reasonable after all he did for Robert. He bears no ill feelings toward Eddard, though, just Robert.>>25395007Forgot about the direwolf. That'll assuage the Northerners, though the Lannister regime will still denounce him as a fake to support another Northern crony (maybe Harrion Karstark) but Cersei will be too busy dealing with the faith and Aegon and the Reachmen abandoning KL to fend off the Ironborn to bother with the North.
>>25394727A shame we'll never see a skinchanger go inside a dragon. I wonder if there's remnants of human souls inside them from all the genetic engineering that only someone who slipped inside their skin would notice.
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>>25395300I can believe alot of this, but not Sansa being killed off, because I like how girly she is.>>25395122Speaking of dragons, I somehow overlooked that ice dragons are mentioned in Old Nan's tales (a highly reliable source of information as it turns out). This confirms that dragons represent both ice & fire.
>>25394349Aemon's "Kill the boy" advice kills Egg and kills Jon. Honestly, it is probably a good thing for Dany that Aemon never reached her.
>>25395502ice dragons are mentioned in the world book too but if they really exist why haven't the others used them? i feel like the previous long night would have been unwinnable if humans had to deal with ice dragons too
>>25395502>because I like how girly she isSo do I, but George doesn't. He prefers le strong fesity warrior womyn.
>>25395652Blatantly false. Brienne is an extreme exception. You're confusing GRRM with Salvatore who has a horde of warrior women in his world.
>Her cunt became the world.This is embarrassing to read. What happened to the fat man? The earlier books weren't as cringe as ADWD.
Ice dragons don’t sound like real dragons to me. They sound more like constructs.
This is now a Malazan thread
>>25396081Needless nitpicking over nothing. It's Asha's pov and she's absorbed in the moment. Nothing wrong with the passage.
>Too lowborn for me to wed, but not too low for me to suck his cock>Asha draped the furs across her bare shoulders and mounted him, drawing him so deep inside her that she could not tell who had the cock and who the cunt.
Not even close to the cringiest passage in ADWD, and I'd prefer to read any Asha chapter over most Bran chapters. Quentyn Martell's chapters are the most boring and any time Daenerys is mooning over Daario is the most cringy.
>>25396094>MalazanShit and woke. Dropped it on the prologue end due to some little girl joining the army. Heard it gets really bad with way too many povs with previous pov characters becoming forgotten.
>>25396124>Daenerys is mooning over DaarioDrogo is to blame for this, he stoke a fire for dangerous men in her. The Queen of Meereen chases shadows of her late husband, though Daario is nothing compared to Drogo at all.
>>25396171Jon will fix her.
>>25396180He will likely just reinforce her preference for bad boys.
>>25396226Honestly I doubt he's going to come back as grey as people think he is and GRRM indicates. He's probably going to be brutal to the Boltons and Freys but at this point they deserve it. He's not going to be anywhere near Drogo and Daario levels at the least, he's probably just going to make very hard decisions like the baby swap on a king level. But honestly, yeah, Jon probably will reinforce Dany's bad boy attraction because even as Lord Commander he certainly seemed like a bad boy on the outside. We're just privy to his thoughts and know he's more torn than he appears.
>>25396226So that shiftx fellow was correct in his prediction for new Jon.
>>25396226>soonso when is that book coming out?
Ozempic has a side effect of boosting motivation/focus and people are using it to boost productivity. The reason GRRM hasn't posted a blog in months is because he's locked in writing Winds as an unintended side effect of trying to lose weight
>>25396432>so when is that book coming out?Soon, duh
>>25395502>I can believe alot of this, but not Sansa being killed off, because I like how girly she is.All the Starks can't get a fairy tale happy ending and Sansa is already being turned to the Dark Side.
Will we ever see some Squishers What about the people of Toad Isle or the Thousand Isles
So who should finish the books when GRRM inevitably dies without ever finishing Winds of Winter or A Dream of Spring? I nominate Neil Gaiman.
>>25395625>i feel like the previous long night would have been unwinnable if humans had to deal with ice dragons tooThe Others are simply too powerful and thus can only be defeated as we saw on the tv show, by killing the final boss like a vidya game with all the baddies collapsing into snow.
Is George even going to kill Sansa off at this point? He considered it years ago because he thought she didn't have much to add but he changed his mind so obviously he has plans for her. From a story planning perspective it doesn't make much sense to say "I could have killed this character off but didn't, but after keeping her around for another book I think I AM going to kill her off unceremoniously now."
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>>25396480When the book leaves off Sansa is still being held hostage by Bolton right? John is still "dead". Not sure where you go with the character of Sansa to be honest beyond what we saw in the show, but lets face it she is the least of GRRMs troubles. Has he figured out how to get Dany to Westeros? She seems kind of stuck overseas and unless she just goes "you know what, I'm done here goodbye" there seems to be no way to get her unstuck.
>>25396472Yeah they will just be regular white brexit geezers in anything made by hbo.
>>25396491Sansa is in the Vale with Baelish with him planning to marry her to Hardyng to claim Winterfell, her being married off to Ramsay is a show only thing. It's Jeyne Poole as a fake Arya marrying him in the books. As for Dany, unlike many people I think the Dragonbinder will work and Victarion will capture either Rhaegal or Viserion which alongside her "dragons don't plan trees" thing and news that her supposed nephew is back will pretty much draw her to Westeros immediately.
>>25396503Going back to Sansa what is her character arc? She starts out as a spoiled noble girl who dreams of being part of some sort of romantic fiction of knights and handsome princes. She quickly discovers that is just a lie. In the Vale she is sort of being groomed to be more of a manipulator and active participant instead of a passive recipient of life. Maybe the best thing for her would to somehow take control of the Vale and become a player in her own right.
>>25396555What are the chances he just has Stannis just take Winterfell?
House Manwoody of kingsgrave in the far south? That means that the man-wood is the grave of the (night) king in the far north
>>25394789this but unironically
Imagine being a diver and seeing something as cool as this. You’d probably end up drowning because you wouldn’t want to look away from something so fucking cool.
>>25397461Sapphire is in the wrong eye. Here's what a diver would really see
>>25395122I think skinchangers can't go into Dragons BECAUSE of the genetic engineering and blood magic that went into them. Lemur theory I think nails it. Dragons need a human sacrifice and only people related by blood to that blood sacrifice person can ride dragons, and only dragons from that particular family of dragons. Dragons all have Valyrian ancestor spirits already so they're already skin changed in a sense. Can't fly over the wall of that ancestor spirit is VIOLENTLY kicked out like the skinchanger guy when his hawk over the wall caught fire from within. That wasnt mel but anti-magc wards from The Wall. Also why Alysannes dragon refused to fly over the wall even when she commanded it.
>tfw want to reread the books>refuse to reread an incomplete series>continue this paralysis for multiple yearsdeath to the fat man. I wish he'd just admit it's not happening
>>25397768I wish he'd just start slamming meth, get off his formerly fat ass and write the fucking books
>>25397524Showfag
Orcs in Asoiaf are humans
>>25397527A skinchanger trying to hop inside a dragon would feel themselves on fire. Excruciating. “Fire made flesh”. Just my prediction. Perhaps a human mind can’t handle what it means to see through a dragon’s eyes. A creature so synonymous with magic itself.
being sacrificed to inhabit a dragon or whatever probably feels as excruciating as it does orgasmic, anguish and ecstacy
>>25398048No, orcs in Asoiaf are ironborn
>>25398057>A skinchanger trying to hop inside a dragon would feel themselves on fire>She glimpsed the shadow of a great wolf, and another like a man wreathed in flames.
I remember Bran repaying Tyrion for the saddle he made by piloting Viserion while Tyrion rides it was an old old theory lol. It kinda fell out of style though.
A Dance with Dragons was released 15 years ago today
>>25395828>Blatantly false.No it's not. While GRRM's world is more grounded than D&D and doesn't have tons of female warriors, he still clearly prefers girlbosses (Arya, Brienne, Asha, Ygritte, Val) to regular feminine women (Cat, Sansa, Lysa Arryn).
>>25397837Well he is apparently slamming Ozempic, which is a bit like speed
Rickon shall take over the Iron Throne and eat all his enemies
>>25396481Looks nothing like how she's described in the books.
>>25398155wait, was the piece made of weirwood, and he accidentally fed it blood?
>>25398910>wait, was the piece made of weirwood, and he accidentally fed it blood?Yes, that's a good catch. Also note how the paste of weirwood seeds fed to Bran was also veined with blood-red.>>25398057>>25398147If greenseers can warg into weirwoods, then maybe there are redseers who can warg dragons in an analogous way.>>25396471eh, maybe, but the Lord & Lady and Young Wolf being killed off, with the rest of the Starks scattered to the four winds, seems like punishment enough for being honorable imo.
>>25399062>then maybe there are redseers who can warg dragons in an analogous wayValyrians are said to have controlled their dragons with whips and sorcery. Not just bonding. Their glass candles can emulate the feats of the greenseers.
>>25394349>Snow region>River region>Mountain region>Gold region>Urban region>Forest region>Farm region>Sand region>Island region
>>25399155All kino tropes
>>25399141Can glass candles do time travel? Have there been any valyrian hodor moments?
>>25399157Many can be justified, but the biggest issue is Riverlands.Having rivers is not a defining characteristic, because rivers are everywhere, and the Trident isn't the longest river in Westeros.So, why the fuck would anyone call it the Riverlands instead of Tridentland?
>>25399172Because look at any map of Westeros and the Riverlands has rivers take up more of a proportion of its land than any other province. Tons of real life places are called riverlands for that exact reason, dunno why it's weird. Tridentland also just sounds fucking stupid, people in a fictional world would be just as sensitive to what sounds pleasing to the ear as we are.
>>25399171Some speculate that’s what the green glass candle does
>>25395617Too much of a deep cut for the Alt Shift X watchers I guess.
>>25399155>Hill region
>>25399223Oh yeah, it was definitely an insightful opinion that no one has had before.
>>25399246Most people think Aemon meeting Dany would have been a good thing for Dany.
>>25399250His dragonlore and push to get her to Westeros would have been good yes. His mutterings about prophecy would have been as disastrous as Rhaegar's.
>>25399192>Because look at any map of Westeros and the Riverlands has rivers take up more of a proportion of its land than any other province.Anon, every region that doesn't have extreme heat to dry up rivers has about the same amount of river coverage. That's just hydrology 101.Rivers in the ASOIAF map only represent a fraction of the rivers that realistically must be there. E.g. the Westernland doesn't have any rivers depict in map, does that mean the Westernland doesn't have a single river? No, it obviously has many rivers; they just aren't depicted.>Tons of real life places are called riverlands for that exact reasonthere are? only thing I found was Australia's Riverland.>Tridentland also just sounds fucking stupidNot stupider than Riverland>people in a fictional world would be just as sensitive to what sounds pleasing to the ear as we are.Ah, you are subscribing to the idea that in this world, the common tongue is literally English, and not a fictitious language that is translated to English for the convenience of the audience.
>>25399341Tons of businesses, churches, etc are also named riverland, it is an actually common thing. Yes, the common speech is translated for our benefit but their version of Riverland would be as pleasing to their ears as their version of Tridentland would be displeasing. Places aren't named by a perfectly logical machine, they're named by the impression they give to the people. You might genuinely be autistically overthinking this.
>>25399367>Tons of businesses, churches, etc are also named riverland, it is an actually common thing.not really the same thing as regions>Places aren't named by a perfectly logical machine, they're named by the impression they give to the people.Most regions aren't named after a geographic feature; they are named after the ethnic group that lived there.As Martin used heptarchy as inspiration, it as good showcase.>Wessex = Tribe of West Saxons>Essex = Tribe of East Saxons>Mercia = Tribe of Mercians>East Anglia = Tribe of East Angles>Northumbria = People north of the Humber estuaryOnly Kent is an essentially geographic feature, as it means cornerland
We gotta give a better name to da norf than simply "The North"
>>25399380>Most regions aren't named after a geographic feature; they are named after the ethnic group that lived there.Tons of countries in the world do in fact have most of their provinces just named after geographical features. Check out China's province names. Martin doesn't have to rip literally everything wholesale from Britain, that'd be fucking boring.
>>25399398>Check out China's province names.weak argument, China was extremely bureaucratic and an exception to everything
>>25399411Of course you think it's a weak argument, it disproves your fixation on George somehow needing to name the regions of Westeros based on how you want them to be named. Honestly I don't even know what your point is anymore, do you want the North to be called Firstmenland, Dorne the Rhoyneland and everywhere else Andaland?
>>25399380>Most regions aren't named after a geographic feature; they are named after the ethnic group that lived there."India" is derived from the Indus River (greeks calling people "beyond the indus river")"Media" is derived from "middle" (greeks calling people "in the middle of that region)"Arabia" is derived from "west" (hebrews calling people "west of us")
>>25399520>west>Semites are from the LevantThat makes no sense.
>>25399172>Having rivers is not a defining characteristicBut it is for that region of Westeros, where there are three great rivers and scores of lesser (but still navigable) rivers. Rivers are the first and easiest trade routes in a world where land routes are little more than game trails.
>>25399520>"Arabia" is derived from "west" (hebrews calling people "west of us")Not only is that not true, it would make no sense for it to be true. Arabs weren't west of hebrews, they were south of them.
FIFTEEN YEARS
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Wyllisspearwife pussy so good he had to go straight back
>>25399862fuck I still remember going out on a friday after college to go buy it. we ain't getting shit, are we?
>>25399520The etymology of all of those is disputed theories and nobody knows for certain>>25399760The Trident is one river; it having major tributaries does not make it special, every river has such tributaries.>Rivers are the first and easiest trade routes in a world where land routes are little more than game trails.Obviously, but you don't understand that rivers are everywhere. This is because most maps excluded minor rivers. E.g. most maps depict Wales with no rivers, but it's actually full of rivers.> do you want the North to be called Firstmenland, Dorne the Rhoyneland and everywhere else Andaland?Honestly, there should be at least some nomenclature from the tribes of Firstmen and the Andals, but Martin never names any tribes within those peoples.Another point could be named land; many regions have been named after the eponymous founder, and the names tend to get corrupted over time.So, I think calling the North something like "Bryndeland" (assuming "Brynden" is a corruption of Brandon the Builder) would be interesting.
Hightowers = nazisTargs = jews Maegorchud btfo
>>25400073>he wrote Hardhome: An Account of Three Years Spent Beyond-the-Wall among Savages, Raiders, and Woods-witches. Why would he title it like a modern clickbait article? That's not how medieval books were titled.
>>25394388His plan was always for Sansa to get seduced to the dark side. Her direwolf dying foreshadows her betrayal of Eddard to Cersei, and Baelish has been grooming her to be his lieutenant for five books.Baelish's endgame is to put Sansa on the Iron Throne with himself as Hand, but they're both going to die in the climactic battle against Euron and Daenerys. Bran will inherit the throne as Sansa's successor
>>25394388She will marry Aegon but the plot twist will be that Arya was sent to kill her and wear her face so Arya will be posing as Sansa
Why's HotD doing a reverse fAegon plot with Daeron seizing the throne for the Hightowers and Ormund is an Andal Supremacist?
>>25400672Because HotD is straight Targaryen wank and I generally do like the Targaryens. Showing all Daemon's cultural posturing as valid complaints about the Hightowers "sneaking" in to the Red Keep while portraying the Hightowers as blatant and eye rolling Nazi ripoffs about Andal superiority is absurd in its intellectual disconnect. Also Daeron having brown hair is fucking stupid, muh real history being written over falls blatantly flat at things that are objective and attested to facts like Viserys being taken to Essos and Daeron having silver hair. The show has too many fucking plots for the sake of drama, every prestige television show does this. Fire and Blood really should not be this complicated to adapt.
>>25400708If Daeron doesn't have white hair why would they dye the fake daeron's hair. This shouldn't be a secret. I think Daeron's hair is fake/dyed and he's in cognito.I agree with the rest of your post because Daemon's like>We iz the dragon and shit, let's go conquer Essosand we're all supposed to be excited for them.
>>25400722True, but incognito Daeron looks so close to Alicent's casting that I figured his red-brown hair is real to hammer in that he's more Hightower aligned. I guess it depends on if Daemon and Rhaenyra were around when Daeron was born, dunno the show timeline since it was completely fuck with compared to the book where iirc Rhaenyra was ruling on Dragonstone by the time Daeron is born. Regardless the Viserys thing is still a major dumb decision, the defenses of this show being the truth behind the history books falls flat with shit like that.
>>25400672If we take the racial supremacy Nazi parallels of the Targaryens and give them to the Hightowers instead, normies won’t have to deal with any uncomfortable conflicting feelings about supporting and self inserting the blonde haired pale aryan colonizers with the red and black flag. They can still view rhaenyra as an everywoman and not the facist racist Nazi she is
>>25400310>The Trident is one river; it having major tributaries does not make it special, every river has such tributaries.Obviously you don't understand that the Trident is a huge river with hundreds of miles of _navigable_ waterways.
>>2539986229 years 11 months 12 daysor 359 months 12 daysor 1562 weeks 4 daysor 10938 calendar days
>>25401117and that makes it special?also, navigable to whom?Ironborn long boats that sail every river regardless?Or are you saying Cersei's dromonds could throught the Trident to the Twins?
I wish we saw some fucked up starks. Starks before ned were not ''honorable'' that much like Eddard Stark, who was brought up in the Vale.
my favorite theory is that starks are descendants of the others and that ''winter is coming'' is a threat
>>25400310>The etymology of all of those is disputed theories and nobody knows for certain>If I believe something then it's certain and true>If someone else believes something it's uncertain and not necessarily true
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>>25401423Northerners in general are decently well known for their honor, dunno what you're talking about. There have been Starks that have been shitheads and the Starks weren't always known for being honorable but Ned didn't invent it out of whole cloth.
>>25401777Depends on if you believe her getting moon tea was designed to trap Cersei or not. If not, she is in fact a hoe.
>>25401742>Northerners in general are decently well known for their honorshowfag nonsense
>>25401783>"Lord Tyrell loves me not," Grand Maester Pycelle said in gloomy tones when the Hand had departed. "This matter of the moon tea … I would never have spoken of such, but the Queen Dowager commanded me! If it please the Lord Regent, I would sleep more soundly if you could lend me some of your guards."He's saying that Cersei commanded him to leak that Marg asked for moon tea, not that the story is false. In Cersei's chapters in AFFC it's Pycelle who mentions what exactly Marg was asking from him when Cersei demands it, if anything he invented it to be a shit stirrer, not Cersei.
>>25401793The whole "he who passes the sentence must swing the sword" thing is explicitly a northern custom and not something honorable Ned made up himself. This is explained in the first fucking chapter of the first book. You might be the secondary here.
>>25401806>boltons flaying for fun>manderlys baking frey pies>skagosi cannibalism>umbers still doing the first night>karstarks sabotaging robb and conspiring against stannis>dustins sending the least amount of soldiers they can get away with because they hate ned>theon stark raping the sisters and andal villages>cregan's uncles trying to usurp winterfell from him>the whole stark succession crisis a few generations ago>the night's king most likely being a starkBut suuure, they're honorable because they don't use headsmen lmao
>>25401835Half of these or in universe rumors or fucking fan theories lmao and the rest are politics because yes, not everyone is perfect. I specifically said that. I'm just going to address the Frey one, assuming Wyman the God Manderly did that it was fully justified because they broke guest right, which guess what, the honorable Northmen are known for respecting. The fact that the Boltons didn't show how out of place they are in the North, and they're hated by pretty much every other Northern house for that reason.
>>25401845>they broke guest right,The Starks reneged on their promise to marry a Frey daughter. They only got what they deserved.
Kinda shocked to see so much theoryposting, when every possible theory has been theorized over the last 15 years. The only thing we should be doing is bitching about George not writing anymore. He isn't even writing his blog posts.
>>25401885You refuse to let them cross if so, putting aside the fact that Robb offered up the fucking Lord Paramount of the Riverlands in exchange, not break guest right and murder him (and his bannermen, who did nothing wrong). Do you just mald at the Starks or something?
>>25401742before ned boltons were legally allowed to flay. Ned is the odd one out I think, and I say this as a Stark loyalist. Brandon Stark deliberatly scarred Baelish for example. They are savages, the northmen, and I love them for that. Theon Stark did nothing wrong, and Winter is Coming is a threat rather than a fucking weather broadcast
>>25401930plus they used to fucking sacrifice people to the weirwoods. southern cvcks can't comprehend.
>>25401930>before ned boltons were legally allowed to flayIncorrect: "The flayed man was the sigil of House Bolton, Theon knew; ages past, certain of their lords had gone so far as to cloak themselves in the skins of dead enemies. A number of Starks had ended thus. Supposedly all that had stopped a thousand years ago, when the Boltons had bent their knees to Winterfell. Or so they say, but old ways die hard, as well I know."
>>25401945oh shit, my bad. I thought it was techincally legal till Eddard. Still, Starks allowed Gregor Clegane tier comically evil nobles to roam free. And the rape of the three sisters was so horrific that sistermen still do not love northerners.
>>25401954The North has had individually bad people and are hypocritical about breaking their own honor codes like all people are, I'm just saying Northerners and Starks especially do in fact pride themselves on and are known for a sense of honor, Ned did not invent this. What makes him remarkable is that he simply lives up to this honor code more than really any other Stark before him.
>>25401890This is the only place that still comes up with actually new theories
>Northerners and Starks especially do in fact pride themselves on and are known for a sense of honor,
>>25401993>let me ignore the book quotes actually posted and referenced and post a meme image into the air, that'll get him!
>let me ignore the book quotes that have nothing to do with honorYeah
>>25401777According to Littlefinger, yes.
Rickon Stark will be a true Stark, violent, fierce and as cold as ice. My king in the north will fly to winterfell atop Cannibal and burn those vampire skinned cunts inshallah.
>be euron>warg into mute botley bastard>watch your niece carry on the ironborn tradition of sibling affection
>be euron>molest your siblings>also warg into the women your brother is fucking
>>25401777No. Renly was a turbofag but still not stupid enough to sabotage his own reign by not fucking Margaery at least once.
>>25402362Even so. He was too politically astute to not fuck his wife at least once. She's also a well known whore.
>>25401993Yeah, I'm tired of these showfags. They should fuck off back to /tv/ and r/hotd. Ned's sensibilities were instilled in him by Jon Arryn.
>>25402539>source: my ass
>>25402365>She's also a well known whore.calm down cersei
>>25402556Just because Cersei was blowing smoke doesn't mean there's not fire
>>25402578she's not really a well known whore if the only people accusing her of it are cersei and people working for cersei
>>25402547You're a retard plain and simple.
I unironically think Coldhands could be Dunk at this point. We know Dunk survived Summerhall now, but to what end? There is an existing relationship with Brynden Rivers. It makes sense.
>>25402365>known whoreThere's zero proof of this. Only Cersei's (an actual adulterous whore) false slander.
>>25402624I mean, surely you can post the textual evidence. It's not like we have implied counter-evidence with Ned being so against killing children that he returns North furious with Robert after Elia and her children's death, resigns as Hand after Robert orders Daenerys' death, and later orders Tywin's arrest despite the political suicide and likely war it would entail, all while Jon stays on as Robert's hand after he cheered the death of children and fails to curb Lannister influence or punish them despite their blatant crimes.
>>25402643*later orders the Mountain's arrest
>>25402365>He was too politically astute to not fuck his wife at least once. She's also a well known whore.Agreed. The only view we get of Renly is from others with their own bias but I'd say the evidence shows he was politically astute and being bi-sexual, he would have knocked up Margaery eventually.As for Margaery, it's pretty clear she didn't come to Renly's bed a virgin.
i think euron will blow up king's landing in order to fuel blood magic
>>25402887again with the bisexual renly shit, will you knock it offhe was GAY
Jon is gonna need a bigger army to save the realm and stabilize the North. Especially after Stannis's battle with Bolton. We can assume that Stannis's army is eventually gonna end up under Jon at some point. Probably when Stannis dies (most likely). Justin Massey in the Theon sample chapter is sent over to Essos and with the help of the iron bank is gonna return with the real arya, drop off the fake one, and bring on over a bunch of sell swords that will end up fighting for Jon who is gonna be a very cold bastard as a result of being revived after getting assassinated. Unless of course the sample chapters are completely discarded and Massey will be a pointless character.
>>25400191We might get Winds of Winter but we arr probably never getting A Dream of Spring. I don't understand Grrm won't just split Winds into 2 books.
>>25402952Apologize.
>>25402952gay men can have children it's happened countless times throughout history
>>25403344>I don't understand Grrm won't just split Winds into 2 booksit's a pacing issue. Which is a really funny thing to say given how much AFFC/ADWD slowed down the story by expanding PoVs and the number of factions, but the 'lowpoint' of everyone's character arc has been reached so it needs to be resolved in the next two books to match proper 3-Act storytelling structure.Either way you're right, Winds is all but guaranteed to come out posthumously, whatever condition it's in.
>>25403468i didn't say they couldn't, he's saying that renly wasn't gay but actually bisexual, there is 0 textual evidence to corroborate that
>>25403152>Jon is gonna need a bigger army to save the realm and stabilize the North.I think that's one of the reason the Skagosi are getting introduced. A fresh northern army.
>>25403796>jon leading an army of unicorn riding cannibalspeak.
Lyanna raped Rhaegar
>>25402932You’re close. But it’s actually more accurate to say that both Euron and Leyton will blow up Oldtown. Mutually. In awesome fashion. “What happened?”. Magic do be like that.
>>25404094lollys raped half a hundred king's landing smallfolk
>>25403738>he's saying that renly wasn't gay but actually bisexual, there is 0 textual evidence to corroborate thatAll the women of Westeros swooned over Renly, if he was a prancing faggot (like in the dumb tv show) this wouldn't be the case.
>>25404708based headcanon
>>25403860>jon leading an army of unicorn riding cannibalsI'm pretty sure no Skargossi ractually pohyscial ride their unicorns, that are just single horned goats like a rhino. Shaggoydog is eating one and it seems smaller than a direwolf in size>It is also said that those seafarers brave enough to trade on Skagos have glimpsed the stoneborn lords riding great, shaggy, horned beasts, monstrous mounts so sure-footed they have been known to climb the sides of mountains. A living example of such a creature—or even a skeleton—has long been sought for study, but none has ever been brought to Oldtown.Nevermind search of ice and fire has this, so I guess the goats grow big enough to ride.
ITT Times when you acted like MelisandreI wanted to cut an onion today and there were worms inside, so I threw it away
