What would he say to someone who has dropped out of society completely and lives in reclusion? >A pathetic slave who was defeated and lives with bitterness and ressentiment. The alternative would be to engage with society, with each moment the will of the mass flooding, battling and maybe polluting your own>ExcusesIsn't the Higher Form of Life supposed to follow their own path?>Yet you achieved nothingI want to ressurect Nietzsche and take him out on a friendly date. I would wish to know how his mind would have changed if he saw the world of today.
I wish you fags would just read Nietzsche instead of addressing a stereotype
>>25425861>A pathetic, arrogant and bitter loser who thinks he's smarter than he actually is?>Wow anon you are literally meBut in German
>>25425861Much wisdom in this>>25425881Much wisdom in this as well>>25425877Both much wisdom and much retardation in this in equal measure
>>25425861Whats there to "society" other than consuming new shiny products and watching nadvertisements on even newer products, discuss the products with others, share products with each other, consume the movie, consume the cocktail, so fucking fun, I love hecking consumption
>>25426052What is the point of becoming all powerful? There is someone on this earth who has power, atleast more power than me. Why isn't he doing anything? Isn't the Übermensch supposed to dawn the new era of man and push us beyond the stars? Where are my spacecrafts that can travel at light speed? Where is the healthy and superior populace? All I see is mindless consumerism of the slave state. The people in power are doing absolutely nothing other than keeping the herd docile. How is this master morality? You are supposed to invent things, create and push new values instead of pathetically clinging to power. I am slapping the next person who calls Nietzche a prophet.
>>25426070True overmans are the friends we made along the way
Nietzsche praised solitude and he also spent most of his time alone. His reasons were similar to what you said, being surrounded by other people all the time makes it much harder to develop your own thoughts and values.But I think he would've said that you still should be productive.Also he almost never said that a thing was purely good or bad, even though he he praised solitude, he also said that it can betray a certain weakness, I think he said that about Epicurus.
>>25426070nietzsche doesn't undiscriminatingly praise power and authority. the capitalist class of our day are not the overman, and the ascetic devotion to increasing investment returns in not master morality.nietzsche says in beyond good and evil that he feels great anxiety about how the future will turn out. he wasn't making prophecies, he was trying to summon allies and inspire a new project to steer the future in a certain direction. it's because the overman isn't inevitable that nietzsche is anxious about the future. we might miss our chance, we might never realise our potential.
>>25426496He even specifically writes in the prologue about a possible age of the last men, who are simply content and strive toward nothing, produce nothing of value, and are happy in their idleness and pleasure. Then laments how the people wanted this instead of self-overcoming. It's certainly nothing inevitable and what we have is about as far from an age of overmen as we could get, distracting ourselves to death without the slightest discipline.
>>25425861>What would he say to someone who has dropped out of society completely and lives in reclusion?"You see that these philosophers are not unprejudiced witnesses to and judges of the value of ascetic ideals! They think about themselves —what concern to them is “the saint”! In this matter they think about what is most immediately indispensable to them: freedom from compulsion, disturbance, fuss, from business, duties, worries <...> all in all, so far as the ascetic ideal is concerned, they think of the cheerful asceticism of some deified animal which has become independent, roaming above life rather than being at rest. <...> what does this kind of man have to do with virtues?—but as the truest and most natural conditions of their *best* existence, their *most beautiful* fecundity. At the same time, it is indeed entirely possible that their dominating spirituality at first had to set aside an unbridled and sensitive pride or the reins of a wanton sensuality or that they perhaps had difficulty enough maintaining their will for the “desert” against an inclination for luxury, for something very exquisite, as well as against a lavish liberality of heart and hand. But their spirituality did it, simply because it was the *dominating* instinct, which achieves its own demands in relation to all the other instincts—it still continues to do so. <...> Perhaps a voluntary obscurity, a detour away from one’s self, a timidity about noise, admiration, newspapers, influence; a small official position, a daily routine, something which hides more than it brings to light, contact now and then with harmless, cheerful wildlife and birds whose sight is relaxing, a mountain for company, not a dead one but one with eyes (that means with lakes); in some circumstances even a room in a full, nondescript inn, where one is sure to be confused for someone else and can talk to anyone with impunity—that’s what a “desert” is here. O, it’s lonely enough, believe me! When Heraclitus withdrew into the courtyard and colonnades of the immense temple of Artemis, that was a worthier “desert,” I admit. Why do we *lack* such temples? <...> His “maternal” instinct, the secret love for what is growing in him, directs him to places where his need to think of *himself* is removed, in the same sense that the *maternal* instinct in women has up to now generally kept her in a dependent situation. Ultimately they demand little enough, these philosophers. Their motto is “Whoever owns things is owned”—*not*, as I must say again and again, from virtue, from an admirable desire for modest living and simplicity, but because their highest master demands that of them, demands astutely and unrelentingly. He cares for only one thing and for that gathers up and holds everything—time, power, love, interest. This sort of man doesn’t like to be disturbed by hostile things and by friendships; he easily forgets or scoffs."
>>25426070>There is someone on this earth who has power, atleast more power than me."And as the lesser surrendereth himself to the greater that he may have delight and power over the least of all, so doth even the greatest surrender himself, and staketh—life, for the sake of power.It is the surrender of the greatest to run risk and danger, and play dice for death.And where there is sacrifice and service and love-glances, there also is the will to be master. By by-ways doth the weaker then slink into the fortress, and into the heart of the mightier one—and there stealeth power.">Why isn't he doing anything?"See them clamber, these nimble apes! They clamber over one another, and thus scuffle into the mud and the abyss.Towards the throne they all strive: it is their madness—as if happiness sat on the throne! Ofttimes sitteth filth on the throne.—and ofttimes also the throne on filth.""Not around the inventors of new noise, but around the inventors of new values, doth the world revolve; inaudibly it revolveth.And just own to it! Little had ever taken place when thy noise and smoke passed away. What, if a city did become a mummy, and a statue lay in the mud!""Little do the people understand what is great—that is to say, the creating agency. But they have a taste for all representers and actors of great things.Around the devisers of new values revolveth the world:— invisibly it revolveth. But around the actors revolve the people and the glory: such is the course of things.Spirit, hath the actor, but little conscience of the spirit. He believeth always in that wherewith he maketh believe most strongly—in himself!Tomorrow he hath a new belief, and the day after, one still newer. Sharp perceptions hath he, like the people, and changeable humours.To upset—that meaneth with him to prove. To drive mad—that meaneth with him to convince. And blood is counted by him as the best of all arguments.A truth which only glideth into fine ears, he calleth falsehood and trumpery. Verily, he believeth only in Gods that make a great noise in the world!">What is the point of becoming all powerful?"And this secret spake Life herself unto me. “Behold,” said she, “I am that which must ever surpass itself.<...>And even thou, discerning one, art only a path and footstep of my will: verily, my Will to Power walketh even on the feet of thy Will to Truth!""Good and evil, and rich and poor, and high and low, and all names of values: weapons shall they be, and sounding signs, that life must again and again surpass itself!Aloft will it build itself with columns and stairs—life itself: into remote distances would it gaze, and out towards blissful beauties—therefore doth it require elevation!And because it requireth elevation, therefore doth it require steps, and variance of steps and climbers! To rise striveth life, and in rising to surpass itself."
>>25426052You sound like a virgin talking about sex.
>>25425861you've never read him. nietzsche is the emotionally-charged continuation of hegelian dialectic. he'd say do what you want but only if you actually want to do that, which you probably don't because you're a little bitch
>>25425861>what would nietzsche think of schopenhauer if only her wrote an essay about this topic
