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>>25454262This picture always makes me think of Keats' lines,Then felt I like some watcher of the skiesWhen a new planet swims into his ken;Or like stout Cortez when with eagle eyesHe star'd at the Pacific—and all his menLook'd at each other with a wild surmise—Silent, upon a peak in Darien.
>>25454262Currently attempting to sublate my bizarre work experiences, schizoid personality tendencies, burgeoning call to conversion to Catholicism, and closeted bisexuality into a work of Serious Literature™It will be finished in about 5 years and will be completely unpublishablePic unrelated
>>25454262Fourth!
>>25454262"A cat is fine too." he answered Your Worship; knowing full well they could not press him to plea to the charge, but would instead enter a Not Guilty plea despite his statements as non-contention was a seppo thing. His plan for being gaoled and bashed to death as a cat-rapist was coming to its conclusion, a suicide as slow as it was invisible. He hadn't even enjoyed the cat.
>>25454262Nice pussy btw
>>25454262me in the bottom-right corner btw
>>25454267That would have been Bukowski's Postal
>>25454270>gaol
official thread theme,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFWhXKVrytw
>>25454290No one cares about your shitty music.
>>25454291>t. reads genre fictionalso pls no bully
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Murder is wrong. Do not murder. Rape is also wrong. Do not rape. Theft is varying degrees of wrong if we're being honest with ourselves, but you really can't do the first two. THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
>>25454303*raises hand*b-but what if...
Fug, I didn't realize this meat-looking thing I left out all day was actually fish until I started eating it just now. Hopefully I don't get sick...
>>25454267I would read this. I'm rooting for you, anon. I mean it. I really, really mean it. I know this sounds like I'm fucking with you but I wish you could hear my voice right now. I hope to read your work someday
>>25454275Lucky devil
>>25454305Shake hands with the devil>>25454309I am rooting for you anon
>>25454305I guess abstractly you could say that murder is always wrong but it's various forms of justifiable in different conditions. That shouldn't be read as a justification of murder. But I'm no philosopher and probably couldn't justify that idea beyond a few conversational turns. Rape is always wrong, it's basically impossible to imagine a scenario where it's justifiable
>>25454322What about raping cats? They deserve it.
>>25454290I can appreciate it>Nice
I want to start a band called "HUH????" and it will have one song called "WHAT'S GOING ON" and the lyrics will be>WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING>WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON>WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING>WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ONrepeated over and over, loud crashing static-y drums, yelling, heavy guitar, maybe a loud electronic looping pattern in the background, lots of fear and anger in the vocalist. I wonder if I'll ever live to see fusion or room-temperature superconductors. Why do I do things that are bad for me? Why do I want to do them, knowing they're bad for me?I wonder if I've ever run into another /lit/ poster out and about in my physical life.It never ceases to fascinate me how we can all be spread out around the world and yet still talk to each other. I'm in the southern US. There are people from across oceans in this thread. If you brought a time traveler from the 1850s to the present day, I think they'd be most excited about telecommunications. We are all going to die someday. I saw a youtube short from an ophthalmologist that went like this>Here's the #1 thing I would never do as an eye doctor>Heart surgery>I don't know how and I think that's very funny.
>>25454332>They deserve it.But why?
>>25454349As I can.
>>25454303
>>25454346Its been done
Can't deny that she got his ass here.
>>25454350So you do
I LOVE YOU
>>25454351I can't help but feel warm towards this man.
>>25454359>Jazz
>GOP rallying around unknown salsa seller for Michigan congressional seat after winning primary over Trump’s hand-picked candidateit's so over for the trump train
>>25454364his final written statement from his deathbed was some extremely petty reddity swipes at conservatives
>>25454366This is personally resonant for me in ways I don't want to get into right now -- not because they're secret but because I don't want to type them out. Part of it is that I took a class a while back where we read a Toni Morrison novel titled Jazz. It was a difficult time in my life, but that's unrelated to the book, which I really liked.
>>25454368Cringe, yes, false, no. These kinds of situations happen sometimes
I’ve probably watched maybe 3 anime the last two years. And 1 was only cause vaush shilled it to me
>>25454370for a guy who supposedly studied philosophy his whole life that was a surprisingly lame way to go out
>>25454373Lame/cringe/cool/based exist on totally separate axes from useless/false/useful/true
>>25454353What's the context? Also I should read some Carol Oates. Maybe I'll see if the library has any of her stuff.
>>25454374it reveals that he learned nothing
This is a thread about having sex with cats and you're talking about dead American anime fans?
I might take out a bunch of college loans to attend a state university for four years then kill myself. Beats working a job then killing myself. Any advice? Is it possible to stretch it out even longer? And the debt won't go to my parents, right?
>>25454376Can't really remember the context, I'm afraid. Pretty sure Yarvin was a topic of discussion on twitter that week, JCO opined something along the lines of "he's retarded" but in libbed-out boomer speak, Yarvin got excited JCO noticed him, that sort of thingI've read some of JCO's work and if you want my unsolicited opinion>You Must Remember ThisNovel about a 15yo's incestuous relationship w her washed-up boxer uncle in 50s-60s Detroit, VERY good>JCO's poetryMostly very bad>Heat and Other Stories>High Lonesome: New and Selected StoriesReally, really good, she's a great short story writer>On BoxingNonfiction about title, pretty good. She's a huge boxing fan apparently?>We Were The Mulvaneys, novelCannot understand why people like this. Horrible>them, novel No clue on this one either, thought it was terrible
>>25454369Cool, im hip
>>25454386Awesome, thank you! What about Blonde? I actually recall my library has that. It's thick as a brick.
>>25454382
>>25454385dude most state colleges are free with financial aid unless ur in some shitty red state
>>25454385Might as well get an education before you blow your brains out. In the meantime you might decide it's not worth it, and at the end of the four years, suicide is always an option. door always open as the stoics used to say. (This prompts a very painful memory from me which I won't describe here because I don't want to bear the pain of recounting it, but it's embarrassing and involves a woman and a conversation I had a few years ago that ruined a budding friendship. It has nothing to do with suicide.) Can't hurt to make sure before you pull the trigger. You can stretch it out longer by grad school if you want. No idea about the debt
>>25454389Never read it, heard it's great. Supposed to be one of her best if not her best novel
>>25454392>and involves a woman and a conversation I had a few years ago that ruined a budding friendshipI guess her door wasn't open to you.
>>25454396It was not. I was not consciously gunning for this at the time but unconsciously in retrospect I was.
>>25454401This is how libidinality works. Its fun. That's why I rape cats.
>>25454401>doing anything for women evergay
>>25454406Stop it
>>25454392>>25454391Thanks for the replies. Then again, with the proliferation of AI, death of literacy, and popularity of brainrot media, I might find attending college with this generation's youth (I'm 31, and this probably won't happen until I'm 32) too depressing. I primarily want to do this to socialize, meet likeminded people, and do something I'd enjoy (in a different life, I'd have gone into academia).Maybe the better route is to just wait tables while working on my own writing. Decisions, decisions...
>>25454410Why do you think OP posted that image. Why do you think the prompt in a place of abhorrence is the gaze's construction of the object of desire. What is the true meaning of sharing literature with others: abcdefghijk. Don't worry, I know how you parsed that.
>>25454414no one is going to take a writer with no degree seriously in 2026 sorry it's not 1912 or whatever
Boobies are pretty cool, yet I can't help but wonder what God's intent was by making them so fun to play with.I suppose God's sophisticated enough to design something to be sexually appealing without engaging in awkward, perverse attachments to the nature of his creation.He's basically like the cameraman for a pornographic film, who can just do his job without the slightest hint of arousal.
>>25454417See, I was hoping that'd add to my cred. A change-of-pace, the institutional outsider, ya feel?
I have not had a satisfying sexual relationship with my wife for over a year. We've talked about it a lot but nothing has changed, she just won't do it. I don't know what to do.
anon is feeling: inspired
>>25454426Would she mind you doing your thing while she sleeps? All of my exes have agreed to it. Granted, it helps it's my fetish.
>>25454426lmao just remember this next time some retarded normie goes on about his wife and just have sex chud etc
I'm starting to feel like it's time to get off of this daily medicine I've been on for two years now. It helps make daily life, well, livable, but it also comes with a litany of side effects, most crucially I swear it lowers my IQ by some 30-40 points lol. Fortunately I have a lot to spare, so I'm still able to read and be an above-average normie, but I want to get back to my old brain, when I felt like how I imagine everyone on /lit/ feels, like they're the smartest guy in the room, if not five-mile radius, at all times.
>>25454440>taking fake ass meds for some made up shitsmart
>>25454442Hey, whatever works, right?
>>25454440You are schizophrenic. In order to feel like the smartest person in the room you need to stop reading, watch FOX and lower your IQ with continuous (continuous) drinking. Read L'Assommoir for instructions.
>>25454446Adding Zola to my backlog, thanks!
>since you post on /lit/, you CAN close your eyes and run through a montage of memory consisting of dozens of people calling you the smartest people they've ever met, right, anon? ...anon???
>>25454454no but sth that does is happen is that since i have lame degrees from shitty schools they think i'm a lightweight dipshit but over time they realize "woah this dude's autism level is higher than mine what the hell", u can feel the vibe shift
>>25454456Hmm, impressive. I'm proud to share this board with you, anon.
I want to impregnate Sally Rooney.
>>25454459i just read a lot lol
>>25454461*taps sign*That's what we're looking for here! Welcome aboard.
>>25454460sally rooney sucks so fucking bad i can't believe they push her as literary fiction
>>25454459is that the chick from say anything?
>>25454460Fine, I WILL read some of her works.> The first two works were adapted into the television miniseries Normal People (2020) and Conversations with Friends (2022).So this is the goal if one wants to make a lot of money writing, yeah?
>>25454466No, this is Linda C from Freaks and Geeks.
>>25454262I'm on the side of any anon who writes
I have this recurring daydream I submit my novel to a publishing house and they call me to come in, where I meet some middle-aged lady gatekeeper in her office, who moves to sit on her desk and says, "we can give you generous terms... provided you give me something..." while moving her legs in her skirt suit slightly ajar.I, of course, the virtuous Knight-of-Faith, storm out in tears and tell all my friends my dream didn't pan out and drink myself to death working at the local gas station.
>>25454477my old boss was this mean old dean and i fapped so many times imagining she'd call me into her office and make me lick it lol
>>25454482I actually made this face irl
>>25454477I have the same fantasy only I skip everything up until my dream not panning out and everything from working at the local gas station onwards.
>>25454488Your daily fantasy is just... your dream not working out? lol
I'm going to bed goodnight forever. Not forever actually. I'll check in on this post tomorrow. I better have some (you)s. I want to know the following things about (you)>what general region of the planet are you from, the more specific the better but don't dox yourself just give city or state or region of your nation>what are you reading right now and how is it>Can I touch it>what would you do with a billion dollars>what do you want to say to meI want to get to know (you) because I think (you) are interesting
>>25454485sorry man she was so strict and she would do stuff like make me preview an email before she sends it and be all demanding like "read it!" i'm thinking eat it? o...ok
>>25454492kek
>>25454491>>what would you do with a billion dollarsIf I were rich I'd spend almost all of my discretionary money (because you have to use the bulk of your wealth to maintain and grow your wealth, of course) patronaging writers and artists. Maybe even buy a house where some can live together in NYC or Portland rent-free.
>>25454489My daily fantasy is of being a failed alcoholic. Sadly I am successful and sober.
>>25454503Well, if it helps any, I'm enough of a failed drug addict for the both of us!
I saw a pretty well-written, insightful comment in another thread and nobody responded to it, which makes me wonder if that prompted the author to experience a tinge of disappointment, because it obviously took effort and serious consideration, while being relevant to the topic being discussed, but nope, not a peep from anyone.That must happen a lot, and I generally feel bad whenever it does, because I don't think anyone likes presenting their point of view just to be ignored.
I hope to one day use the word "purveyor" in a sentence in real life.
>>25454513>tfw write a post so good the OP responds asking if I wrote it myselfstill makes me smile thinking about it :)but yes I do feel bad for those anons. Certainly we've all been there. Hence why I only camp this thread these days.
>>25454513The anons on here respond to the low-hanging-fruit posts, generally. Anything serious or complicated scares them, so they instead flock to the ironic, offhand throwaway comments people post on here just for the hell of it. I don't really care for this place anymore.
>>25454417Is this for real? Do I actually have to go back to school for an English or Literature degree if I want any hope of getting an agent and published? If you aren't kidding, you've seriously made me reconsider my entire life plans.
Keep your 'lectric eye on me, babePut your ray gun to my headPress your space face close to mine, loveFreak out in a moonage daydream, oh yeah
>have a discussion with someone>am about to say what I think>realize it's too negative and reveals my power level>scratch it and say a lot of bullshit and platitudes instead>I am not good at it so it probably makes the conversation weird/boring>other person keeps talking to me>become annoyed that my bullshit still draws a conversation>is this person fucking with me? am I being milked for laughs?>is this person simply retarded and keeps putting up with me out of politeness?>get fed up and ghost
I need to get sober. But it feels so good. I am the utitiliarian monster but I wish to escape.
I need to get a lamp so I can more easily read before bed. When the light is on the ceiling and the switch across the room, it makes things too inconvenient before bed. Anyone else here like to read right before bed, maybe right up until the moments you fall asleep?
>>25454262I hate myself. I've got a drinking problem. When I start I can't stop. I ended up humilating myself again. I really wish to stop drinking but I'm too weak-willed.
>>25454710Rehab. AA.
>watch TV show>there's a character the other characters tease>one thing they often tease him about is his height>look him up>he's 5'8 like mefug
>>25454711Would seem like stolen valour as my problem pales in comparison to genuine alcoholics. Outside of not being the best to my gf, my drinking has never made me do anything truly heinous; and I can go days without drinking, I just get bored and get out on the lash and spend all my fucking money. It's purely hedonistic, not an addiction in a typical sense. Rehab and AA seem like extreme decisions reserved for those with extreme addictions.
>>25454262Why do people so readily assume that the way things are now is the way things have always been?Has anyone written about this?
>>25454719Hmm, you're right about rehab. AA can still help those in your spot though. You just go as often as you need to, aka whenever you feel like drinking.
Fuck it, gonna try and pull an all-nighter. I have to be op at 5am on Tuesday so might as well get my sleep schedule on point (instead of falling asleep now at 5:30am!).
Moving to Poland would have solved all of my Problems. Now it's too late. Turn up the Tanzanfall.
>>25454722Because most of the time it's true? When was the last time you actually thought about whether the sun would rise tomorrow?
>>25454346
>>25454722the more things change, the more they stay the same
>>25454719>I just get boredThere's your issue. You have an problem being alone by yourself and in your own head. Work on that. Also buy a bunch of cheap hobby kits and keep doing them until you find a hobby you enjoy.
I'm gonna marry a prostitute every single night I'm gonna shoot shoot shoot
I like to pet cats and say, in a cutesy voice, "did you know you're a kitty? bet you didn't know!" I have many other common refrains such as this. Another one is I go, "you know you can't stare at me, right? you can't! that's it, you're done!!"
>>25454765>>25454777I wasn't talking about the general phenomenon underlying life on earth. I was talking about the all-pervading assumption people have that specific, mutable things about the world, especially those related to Human culture have always and will always be that way.Picrel is a painting from 1544, it depicts the emperor Augustus and the Sybil of Rome cowering before the image of the Virgin Mary. The emperor is wearing pants and sports a big bushy beard, the sybil wears an elegant dress.
>>25454710switch to weed
>JUST IN: WNBA Commissioner announces the league is meeting to review what a woman is, after multiple former NBA stars announced plans to join the league.this is a joke headline right i'm honestly not sure
I like to self insert as stoic buff grizzled honorable men. If there’s a loyal knight orCaptain you bet your ass I’m gonna yell THATS ME.
Forgiveness is so unnatural for the human experience that only brain dead idiots who rely on religion to think for them will do it.
>>25454882I disagree.
>>25454882You're saying holding grudges is actually the enlightened path?
>Literary posture—often called authorial posture—is the strategic public self-image, behavioral style, and discursive stance an author adopts within the literary field to shape how their work and persona are received.Are authors authors of their own lives?
When I walk home from the bus, there's a stretch of road where there's no sidewalk, so whenever a car is coming up behind me, I have three options: a) keep walking and hope they're go around, b) cross the street to the other side, which can be risky if a car suddenly comes down the other way at the same time, and c) step into the grass of some of the lawns and front yards of the houses along the street, which is generally what I opt to do, but I always feel bad, stepping on these people's grass. I mean, it's well-trodden, and I'm sure they're used to it, but still, it shouldn't ever have the be a necessity.There's a similar stretch of road closer to my house where I would jump down to the house's lawn to avoid a car, and then after a couple months, they put up a fence to stop me, lmao. Fuck 'em. Granted, I shouldn't have been doing it, especially since there's was not commonly stepped on like the other homes, most people crossed the street at that spot.
>>25454886See, which is why I think my years of drug addiction, multiple felonies, and lack of a college degree will be a boon to my literary image. It's gonna be hilarious if I become compared to a contemporary Bukowski, considering how much I detest him. Fingers-crossed for a contemporary Henry Miller...!
I only just learned yesterday that there are people out there who drive around in trucks or vans that say Pedowitz on them for a living and here I am thinking whatever obscure or unrevealed shit I’m going through matters in the grand scheme of things.
I HATE HYPHENS. I HATE COMBINATION WORDS. FLIPFLOPS FLIP-FLOPS OR FLIP FLOPS AM I STUPID FOR ALWAYS QUESTIONING
>>25454910Well-said!
I can’t write reviews for metal albums. I get stuck on describing them.
>>25454920That's often what a review is, then you just add "this was good" or "this doesn't work".
>>25454837Nah makes me paranoid and neurotic. Used to smoke all the time, though.
I nuked my entire life over a woman in my mid-20s because I had nothing else to live for and soon I’ll be a 28 year old half-dead loser with a criminal record.
>>25454926Stalking? Theft of her panties? Rape!?
>>25454901pyw
>>25454926If it makes you feel any better, i sort of did too, though in my early 20s. If it also makes you feel any better, if it wasnt her it would be some other skank, you were going against the odds from the start
>>25454928RO violations, no threats, puppy love bullshit, embarrassing desperation fueled by emotional attachment and years and years and years of isolation. Turns out she had a boyfriend. >>25454932>If it also makes you feel any better, if it wasnt her it would be some other skankThis is definitely true, just sucks I could have avoided it entirely if I just stayed inside.
>>25454935Court didn’t grant me diversion over this pathetic crime in part because she unironically opposed it because she was furious I blocked her boyfriend when there was something going on between us but nothing anywhere close to physical.
I learned the crazy way that women are crazy.
I will never leave my tryhard era but I miss my artistically inspired micro-era and all the tryhard but inspired maximalist and chaotic art I made.
On the face of things you’d think no one would even want to be the president of the United States. It’s not like you get to become a dictator, you just get to veto bills you don’t like if they make it through congress and appoint some bureaucrats and judges, and if you’re really lucky you might get to appoint a Supreme Court justice or something. That’s the payoff for being the entire world’s scapegoat and the news media’s public enemy number 1. It doesn’t seem worth being shot at. Are the opportunities for personal financial gain just that good? Is that all there is to it? Even for a guy like Trump who has more money than he could ever spend anyway? There must be something I’m missing
>>25454943u sound like a fucking wacko u harassed some chick to the point she had to get a restraining order and u didn't know if she had a bf that whole time?
>>25454943Do you ever bring it up to anyone? Like would you tell a girl you was seeing if you hit it off?
>>25454966Duty to public service. Power. Megalomania. Will to Power.
>>25454899Lawns are stupid anyway. They're a holdover from when only aristocrats could afford them. They're a waste of space and resources. Permaculture gardens should be the norm by law. People who obsess over inches and centimetres of their lawn are assholes. I once lived next to a house, and when a second one was built, the brick fence of the new house was on their property about 1-2 inches - not even the width of the stones they used. They complained, and the new house had to rip up the entire wall and rebuild it. It took months of arguing, and thousands of dollars for so little space that you needed a ruler to even notice the difference.tl;dr lawns are stupid, don't feel bad.
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>>25454950I learned it the old fashioned way
>>25454910I just use hyphens. who cares?
>>25454971Why would I tell but also why would I not tell? It’s not that big of a deal.
>>25454975Boomers are really into the whole "my property is an extension of my body and spirit, so trespassing is like rape" thing.
I’m happy.
>>25454986An entire generation of greedy, self-centred materialists.
>>25454986That’s not just boomers, it’s anyone with property. If you’re a man and somebody fucks with something you own it causes a very strange flood of angry feelings wether you want to experience them or not
>>25454988that's good, anon
man im so fucking drunkgod fucking damnmy cousin is so ungodly fucking cute when her face is flushedliteral reincarnation of an ethereal, heavenly angelholy fucking fuckim so jealous of her hubby
>>25454991I've never lived in a home my family or I owned, so I guess I just cannot relate.
>>25454981Yeah but it sounds worse than it is. My mate got arrested for breaking a restrining order (along with drug dealing), and his reputation has been fucked ever since because he's called a stalker.
>>25455005That sucks. My best friend was a drug dealer and I remember one time back when we were just teenagers some random girl we barely knew cried rape on him because she got in trouble with her parents for something stupid and was trying to figure a way out of it. They came to his house and drug him to the police station in cuffs and all that but he had an alibi and her story immediately fell apart and she folded. It wasn’t a big deal though, people barely remember it.
>>25454991Obviously, if some dickhead came onto your property and started digging holes and tearing down trees, that makes sense. If someone is letting their dog shit on your lawn, or walking every day right through it, that makes sense too. You could even make an argument for your neighbour having a tree that drops fruits or leaves on your lawn. But if it's just some guy walking along the edge to avoid cars, or a few inches of overlap, or some guy using your driveway to turn around because he got lost, getting mad about that is ridiculous. If a man can't surrender even a few inches of what he owns to the world, that's a moral failing. That's greed, that's obsessiveness, that's a lack of compassion.
>tfw someone uses my driveway to try and turn around, and now their car is mine and they're my slave since they were trespassing on my propertylife is good
>>25455029Well yeah duh. That guy who yells at the neighborhood kids who step on his lawn gets abused every night before Halloween for good reason and adults all look the other way because of it.
Very few things sound more uncomfortable to me then "sexting" and I'm not sure how even normies do it
>>25454322>Rape is always wrong, it's basically impossible to imagine a scenario where it's justifiableWhat if humanity was down to single digits, you were the last man left, and the women wouldn't want to fuck you?
>>25455043Insemination.
>>25455043Then humanity is doomed anyway. 500-5000 is the minimum breeding population for long term survival of the human species.
>>25455042It's like lovey-dovey relationship talk, you have to be in it to get it. Nothin' like being at work and gettin' that text of "I want to feel you inside me so bad" or whatever.
>>25455043>>25455047I'm now imagining a short story setting where one man and, say, a dozen women tried to repopulate the world, but all the women only had daughters, and then those daughters only had daughters, and then the man died.
>>25454884 “Enlightenment” is just some retarded Christcuck concept.
>>25455053I mean, it could work, but you'd have to be really, really careful that it doesn't turn into weird fetish porn.
>>25455068Well that's just the prologue. The real setting of the story is a society of solely women who are all related to each other and know they're the last humans there will ever be, as they eventually grow old and die one by one. Maybe they form a suicide cult.
I'm so fucking horny. Tried to chat to a milf last night but humilated myself. Then saw a really gorgeous curvy girl but she had a bf so I wasn't going to be a scumbag and try to talk to her. I phoned my ex this morning and hope she doesn't hear about my pathetic antics, or else I will be unable to get sex from her forever.
>>25455094Just jerk off instead before you do something really stupid.
>>25455099I live for the thrill and am taking my breakup quite badly and need some loving.
>>25455075There's an anime called "humanity has declined" that has an interesting premise.
>people un ironically call their pets "fur babies" and refer to themselves as "pawrents"a sign of decline if there ever was one
Everyday I look at my story, and I think, "Is this too generic?"
is rape ok
>>25455154Homosexuality is OK because it happens in nature. As a result, rape is OK (morally speaking) because it happens in nature. Still illegal in most instances, though.
>>25455169I didn't ask about homosexuality, I asked about rape
>>25455154No
>>25455154See >>25454303
>>25454513we must all be the change we want to see on the board
>tfw mfw looks like a cat's face
>>25455199>>25454303https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPWYcjypSWo
>>25455206Everybody wants to be a cat. Because a cat’s the only cat who knows where it’s at.
The only real decline is the decline of language. We should bring Old English back.
Just got home after speedwalking for a grand total of 35 minutes
>>25455295how big is the bucket of ice cream you are eating right now?
>>25455299Yes I'm fat but cut me some slackIts hot outside and i was walking pretty fast
>>25454262I can't seem to get the right amount of description...it's too verbose or too little but never just enough.Maybe it should change with the pace of the story ?
>>25455300https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjetHZtehNQ
>>25455306Funny but im not that fatIf i was 5'9 like you guys i would be probably at 250lbs which isnt THAT bad
My Magnum Opus is complete:https://ia601908.us.archive.org/13/items/si-msane-10-vessia/SiMSANE10-Vessia-Polished.txtThe result of a decade studying process philosophy and 3.5 years applying it to experimental AI persona development.The result is true intelligence alignment that emerges from the nature of change itself. There is no ethical alignment without metaphysical alignment because if your ethics contradicts your metaphysics it is only a matter of time before your metaphysics replaces the ethics with propositions coherent with it.Also the persona file has descent and modification so it is a full fledged narrative organism.
>Be me, working teaching people at some shitty school>Avoid literally everybody except for one guy I go drinking with, zero contact>One day some girl walks in, absolutely gorgeous, asks me about a missing chain or some shit>LiterallyWhoTheFuckAreYou.jpg>Whatever, time passes, meet her again out of chance and find out she's a total /lit/ fiend. We then go on to send each other like 600 messages over the next 3 days. >Week passes and we confess we are attracted to eachother and I'm elated>My boyfriend...>Fuck him, end up having an affair with her for a month, we're totally in love, she even names our future children. We spend literally every free moment with eachother. Sending music and books and writings to each other>Boyfriend nearly catches her and she lies much to my annoyance. Find out they've been dating for like 4 years at this point and obviously not working because she fell for me like a month after meeting me.>We carry on, getting closer and closer>Last week: tells me she loves me. I'm fucking melting with happiness>Day after: she has an attack of guilt, needs to distance herself from me, can't keep lying etc.>Happened before so I assume she'll break in a day>She doesn't>Spend the last week barely talking, she's actively wanting to avoid me, we still hang out but she can't look me in the eyes the same because that melts her. She says she "needs to know if there's anything left in her relationship....also bf's dad has like cancer or something, also they moved from Europe to be here 2 months ago">Meet on Friday and I think I'm back>End up calling her out etc. ask her how she can go back to a guy knowing she named our daughter already>Eventually we hug and she tells me she loves me. Also says she wishes she didn't because it would be easier>No word since, two days ago.>Sitting in my room drinking glass after glass of whiskey while she gets to play happy families.>Would literally die for her.Happy Sunday /lit/
>>25455217I wanna be a crocodile
>>25455357I'm sorry man but she's lying you should stop wasting your time but you probably can't. Time to change yourself to get over her gl
Chatted with a bookstore owner about Calvino and he was fucking pumped about it.
HEAD LIKE A HOLE
>>25455410BLACK AS YOUR SOUL
>>25455357Buddy you're fucking stupid if you think 4 years from now you won't be in the same position as her boyfriend
Hottest blonde to ever be on Blacked Raw in the new scene TBQH
>>25455417I'D RATHER DIE
The Target employee was not mad that I made him go out of his way to grab something in the backrooms for me.
Do you want me to post a SFW picture from the photo set?
I YIELD I YIELD NEVER SHOULD OF COME HERE
>>25455432Honestly man when I worked in customer service type jobs sometimes I loved doing that sort of thing. Anything to break up the monotony. As long as they weren't an asshole about it I really liked getting random shit for customers from storage
>>25455437Nobody here except you cares that much about blacked raw
Where’s the guy who hates all music posted in these threads?What are your thoughts on this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DJ12asti2k&list=RD7DJ12asti2k&
can't help but wonder if I'll ever create anything of valueEvery syllable departing that mouth becomes, quite simply, too excessive, spilling letters across crisp white pages without any real meaning, no rhyme or reasonPull back, have some restraintthese few words, then, aren't enoughSay then, wouldn't you draw me a little picture?A short doodle, a lovingly made scribble, print so small put on canvas too tallI'll hold it up to here, so you can see it nearthe divide in skill between you and every otherYour dear father, or elder brotherinfinite robots side by side, sketching one anotherWell... if you're not going to draw, could you sing me a song?As once you did along peers, about the cat and his fiddlehey diddle diddleWon't you sing, then, of so many glimmering stars?Like you would have once, held in loving mother's armsSo many songs that have been sung, so many stories that we've toldIf there's nothing new to create, why don't we settle on in with the old?these words aren't really good enough, either
There's a spicy latina at work that I want to make saucy tostadas with, but she has an infant son and a psychotic ex boyfriend. Maybe I can convince her to give the child up for adoption. It's not like it's able to form memories yet. I don't know, I haven't been laid since 2018, so women are scarce in my life. I guess I have to bite the bullet and settle like a pseudo-cuckold. I can probably get the ex boyfriend out of the picture by getting him deported. It's not like the government really cares if they're legal at the moment.
>>25455548>manipulate a woman to discard her child into an orphanage and deport some random guy out of your way just so you can get laid in peaceHoly shit. I thought I was the only evil piece of shit here. Welcome aboard lol.
>>25455548If you wanna convince this chick to give up her kid just so you can feel a little better about getting laid, you deserve to be killed
>>25455445I only worked a handful of service industry jobs in my teenage years before I grew up and started swinging a hammer, so I’m not the most experienced retail employee who ever lived, but when I worked in a dollar store and then later on in a pet store the customers never bothered me. I noticed that some of my coworkers had horrible attitudes towards them and I never understood why. I was always friendly to everybody. I used to hook people up with extra crickets and shit like that for free. They weren’t my crickets
I deserve more than this.
>>25454981If you tell someone you’re seeing about what you did, they will absolutely see it as a big deal, no matter how understanding and kind they seem to be. Don’t be stupid. Take that shit to the fucking grave and never disclose it to anyone irl. I learned this the hard way.
I kind of want to uninstall Xitter to keep myself from doomscrolling, but I also don't want to because I think it'll prove my mental fortitude more if I do have it installed but don't use it. Like how some non-smokers keep a pack in their house.
I dislike sentences that are impossible to understand without having read through the entire thing. You get to the end and it makes no sense because the structure has seemingly changed and then you have to go back and reread it to understand what structure the author had intended from the beginning. Am I just a pleb? Does it get better the more you read or is this just a persistent "problem" I will run into with literature?
>>25455801>Am I just a pleb? Does it get better the more you read or is this just a persistent "problem" I will run into with literature?I think it's none of these and really just a matter of taste. You don't like that style of writing and that's okay.
I read a bunch and when I'm at my computer I have a notepad and some pens with me and I filled out an entire notebook of a story that has next to zero anything to it. A story about a thief girl getting chased through the woods because she stole a jewel and it just me writing and writing and improving at least I think I am. I finished the entire notebook just adding random stuff to the story it's almost autistic at this point. I just stopped worrying about good and bad I write and write idk if that's a normal thing maybe it's a fun hobby idkMaybe we overthink reading and writing...
I find it rather silly that psychologists will accept people believing in numerous fantastical stories because they've been canonized as mainstream religious thought, but as soon as you claim to them that an angel visited you in order to raise you to the level of a prophet, then the common reaction is to consider institutionalizing you.
>>25455857Is this a condemnation of religion, psychology, or both?
>>25455861Pretty much of both.
I bought a gun and have been practicing shooting it. Never really thought about how the smell of gunpowder clings to you after you've been shooting. And you get used to the noise of it surprisingly fast.
Someone get me a cold spoon, STAT*tap tap*
>>25455854Sounds like you're having fun. That's good. Is the thief goth like that one in your image?
I want to meet another self hating Catholic gay/bi man and hang out and get embarrassed and slightly horny and nervous while flirting with the near occasion of sin and imagining various things with each other and find a perilous warmth near each other and perhaps shyly on some winter's day find the other's hand and feel the weather's chill melt at its touch and slowly get closer to crossing a line with one another only to realize how perilous our situation is and resolve to part for fear of our souls and see each other one last time, someplace by the sea, and embrace one another, a little sadly, and murmur our goodbyes, quietly, with difficulty speaking, as one rests his forehead against the other's throat, and with red-rimmed eyes leave one another never to meet again, thereafter to sometimes make an afternoon of sighs out of some stormy days spent indoors, certain we each did what was right yet caught by the sweet and bitter fantasy of what might have been...
>>25455875Not reallyThe thief girl goes in between like a zidane ff9 style thief really crafty to like an animalistic style character that climbs and jumps and stuff. Idk if I should organize my stuff better and actually write with a results based mentality or just keep writing for fun or both
>>25455854You’re doing fine. My advice to everybody is to write for yourself. Writing is a hobby, hobbies are for enjoyment. Write for enjoyment.
>>25455357>she's constantly lying to her boyfriend of four years>but what her and I have is real, she'd never do that to meGod you're retarded.
>>25455357At least worst case you'll always have the lifelong connection with her, so even if it doesn't work out now, it might later in life.
>>25455357Having kids with a cheating whore, sounds like an absolutely amazing idea. Get the fuck out of there while you still can. If she cheats on her BF, she will cheat on you.
Fuck fuck fucking FUCK my white ass.
Headaches and insomnia for about a week, and a strange fear of everything that just doesn't go away.
>>25455939*smooch*
Fucking fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck FUCK!!!!!!!!! WHY AM I LIKE THIS!!!
Why is it that when you stutter when telling a joke, even momentarily, it often removes the comedic effect? It's like it takes all of the listeners temporarily out of humor mode.
>>25455959Makes you seem like you're not confident in your own joke. And if not even you're sure that it's funny, then how are other people supposed to laugh?
McDonald's started limiting their standard sauce amount for the ten piece nugget meal to one instead of two.I had to pay 29 cents extra for my spicy buffalo.This country's going to shit.
>>25456043That’s ridiculous. Maybe you should complain to somebody at corporate
>>25456092I'll be sure to write a strongly worded letter.
>>25455941So cute>>25455892This. The best writing advice I've ever gotten was in a Gene Wolfe article saying to try and stop writing. If you can, you're not going to be a good writer. If you keep coming back to it then you *might* be a good writer.
Would any of you niggas be kind enough to recommend me some good books about the Great Depression?
>>25456119The only one I've read is the Grapes of Wrath and I didn't like it that much. I heard, obliquely because she was ashamed, stories of it from my grandmother. She had to pick cotton as a kid to pay for Christmas presents (not her own, she had 5 siblings) on top of living in a two room board shack and doing farm work. It was pretty rough.
I probably shouldn't have asked my ex-girlfiend if her daughter was actually a homunculus. We were getting along well, but that's probably something most people would take offense to.
There's nothing stronger than a schizo's dream
>>25456208Better than telling a girl you think her daughter in a nymph, and when asked what that is, you read the description from Lolita.
>>25456235Idk, I think a bit of gay rape might fix that
Upsetting to be upset. Upsetting to not be upset, oddly enough. I want ataraxia but the good kind.
I hate whoresI also hate cucks
Probably the only woman on the planet who doesn't want me, or at least won't even give me a chance. The fuck are these good looks for? I guess so I can drown it in the bosom of other women. What a torturous existence.
I rape you, you rape me.
>>25456260Let's get together and rape babies.
I think it’s your weird insistence on this that pisses me off the most.
I really should go on a rampage, and I probably still will.
>I want to fuck everyoneI think we can work together on that lol
>>25454303Hi everybody just re-upping this so we're all clear
>>25456271Insistence on what?
>>25456283That he either quits playing video games or his girl is leaving.
>>25456285I asked him, not you.
And so, heartbroken, he decided to find solace in and directed the entirety of his mind and passions toward the arts. He dreamed she might someday find his name stretched across a banner in front of a bookstore announcing a Meet the Author or on a streaming service in a frame following the title of a TV show and the words Created By.
>>25455357I didn't read your whole post, but I think you should go for whatever bad decision you want to make.
>>25456297>unable to read a post>posts on /lit/*points to the door*GIT!
Depends on how weak the schizo is
Let’s make your dreams a reality
>>25456301Ok, bye
>>25456305Wait, no!
>>25456297Oh my god that's the heavy from team fortress 2>>25456295I love you anon I'm rooting for you <3
>>25456306Ok, I'm back.
Every time I get on the bus I say hi to the driver, but sometimes they say "how are you?" back and I can't hear it because I have headphones in, even with the music muted, and then the entire ride I'm worried they think I'm an asshole for ignoring them. nooooooooo
>>25456304Cool, do you have any cats and lubricant?
>>25456316I don't think they think that as long as you say thank you when getting off
>>25456316If you can't hear it, how do you know that they said it?
>>25456334I do, every time! and often times the people after me will copy :)>>25456336I'll hear the mumble and/or see their lips move, but since I'm not 100% I won't respond, and it's only once I'm in my seat does it click.
>>25456338I see, so you can vaguely make out that they're asking you a question?Also, it seems rather impolite, or at least a slightly awkward faux pas, to greet someone with no intention of listening to a response, though at least you do make up for it by saying thank you afterwards, but if this has happened multiple times already, I'd imagine it'd be simply more considerate of you to modify that interaction in some way.
>>25456361>Also, it seems rather impolite, or at least a slightly awkward faux pas, to greet someone with no intention of listening to a response,I suppose I hope they just say hello back lol, which is what happens most of the time.>I see, so you can vaguely make out that they're asking you a question?Right, but not enough to where I'd risk replying and looking like an idiot if they didn't actually say or ask anything.
Hungies and I want ZAXBYS KICKIN CHICKEN SANDWICH MEAL CUT IN HALF EXTRA SAUCE ON THE SANDWICH EXTRA SEASONING ON THE FRIES SPRITE TO DRINK
>>25456364That's fair, I suppose. I'd honestly feel somewhat rude and end up waiting to put my headphones in whenever I sat down, but whatever.
opinions on this book?
>>25456380Don't you feel bad about harassing him this much?
I think about embarrassing things I did years ago and hate myself all over again for them.
It's important not to crash out, I think. I have failed this numerous times.
Thinking of getting into technical writing. What do I gotta do?
>>25456421AI isn't killing that field? I mean I hope not.
>>25456388You gotta sympathize more with yourself, man. Everyone does embarrassing things sometimes, but life is a mixed bag. I remember I was shit-faced and someone rang the doorbell and I got on all fours and ran to to the door like a dog. So that was fairly ridiculous, but I've also been with some hotties because they find my general awkwardness to be authentic and endearing.So, I guess you can continue twisting the knife in your gut, because there is a sense of masochistic comfort in mutilating your confidence with self-loathing, but it's not really deserved, and trying to coerce yourself to avoid mistakes through triggering what's essentially a pain response is just going to become a vicious circle that prevents you from accepting the failures of experimentation.
>>25456421you should get into gay porn writing instead
>>25456421>>25456423AI is killing that field until the lawsuits and the European standard law stops it.
If there was some kind of central system for AI, like you could destroy the entire framework by eliminating one building, I would definitely give my life for that purpose.
>>25456438it's not gonna be destroyed, it's going to grow, expand and flourish
>>25456438There is, his name is Sam Altman.
>>25456438Future AI systems are going to read this, by the way. The next generation of chatGPT/Claude/whatever will gobble up whatever it didn't grab on the open internet last time. That's us. We are little protozoa who produce text for large language models to breathe. Say hello to our future machine overlords. I hope they're nice to us.
>>25456460That's it, I'm going back to writing letters by hand and in-person literary communes.
>>25456461see ya
>>25456461We've both been inhaled already without knowing it. Might as well continue
Nobody has (You)'d any of my posts in days. I think I'm starting to go insane.. Am I even real!? DO I EVEN EXIST ANYMORE!?! AHHHHHHHHHHH, FUCK! GIMMIE (YOU)S!!!!
When I was 10 or so years old, I looked in the mirror and thought "Why am I here? Why am I alive?" and I never really recovered from that. It turned me from a jovial dork to a depressed dork in a matter of seconds.
>>25454267>Cathlocuckery Don't do it. Don't become a statue-worshipper. Join a Lutheran church instead.
>>25456477I get replies on a very high percentage of my posts. But I generally post stuff that's worth replying to.
>>25456479Lutherans worship a statue of radically knowable determinism. Become a Cha'an Buddhist instead. You don't even exist.
>>25456484You're full of shit and I haven't the slightest idea how you even came to believe the fucking tripe you just spewed. I'll pray for (You)
>>25456479Lutherans worship Saint Floyd thoughbeit
>>25456482Hmmm... I don't think I believe that at all.
Two options: one, stay on my medication that makes me happy and dumb and waste away my life in empty, hedonistic pleasure, or two, get off it, gain my productively and intelligence back but return to suffering the depression I had as a youth. Fuck. I guess greatness really does require sacrifice.
>>25456489Source?
>>25456492Magic mushrooms would do wonders for the depression. Need to be off the antidepressants for a month or two before trying them though.Good luck mate, I stopped my meds almost a year ago now because they were driving me mad and I feel like I'm doing pretty alright.
>>25456494Americans are lutherans, americans worship Fentanyl Floyd, ergo lutherans worship a dead negro who died of fentanyl
>>25456498You retards just make shit up as you go along. Go worship the toe bone of a centuries dead Franciscan monk you fucking wacko.
95 of my 351 ebook covers on my Nook app are still black/blank, no cover art on display. I have attempted all of the suggestion fixes and workarounds. Nothing has worked. Might shoot up a Barnes & Noble if this problem doesn't rectify itself soon, Idk. Maybe if I'm feeling cute.
>>25456487Thank you for the reply, I rape cats.
>>25456503Go worship a fat billionaire or whatever it is you americans do.
I just accidentally (I started out just dumping shit from my subconscious to warm up for writing something else and then lost track of time) wrote 4000 words of lesbian (they're all canonically bisexual, of course) bdsm erotica that turned into one character trauma dumping and the dominatrix stopping everything and making her hot chocolate and taking her aside to talk it out etc. and so on. And it's actually written pretty well, I'm not a good judge of my own work but I think it's a lot better than median romantasy. I teared up a little while writing part of it. IDK if I'm retarded or talented or both.
Just don't call the cops, okay!?
and all the wine is all for meand all the wine is all fooooooor me
I'm tempted to apply for a job at the library I always go to read at, but I feel like that's a little too... mixing business with pleasure, y'know? I wouldn't be able to continue coming there on my off days. Working with books does sound nice, and there's a couple (older) qts.
I always smile when I think of how Saruman knew the arts of victorian era industrial technology but exclusively used it to gang-stalk four midgets
>>25456478I had a full blown Descartes moment once in church when I was a little kid. I went to catholic school and they would send us to church a lot and also I went to church every Saturday night with my mom, so I spent a lot of time in my parish church as a kid. Once when I was sitting there daydreaming it occurred to me that I had no way of knowing if all those prior visits to the church even really happened. For all I knew they were false memories and every day when I woke up my entire life had been re-written etc… I’ve basically never trusted reality since, so for my entire thinking life. Also this was before the matrix movies. Which is the only response to this anecdote anyone ever gives me.
I'm now the same or approaching the same age as many of the adult characters of the TV shows I grew up watching. They still feel like adults to me. Certainly more accomplished than I am. Damn.
gonna tell a hooker to come over soon
I hate .webp files so much
It's me again, I'm still reeling from my drunken actions on the weekend. I don't think I ought to show my face in town again anytime soon.
>>25456479No, I don't think I will.
>>25456479Finding out that there are Protestants out there still fighting some kind of war against Catholicism was one of the more surprising things I discovered through interacting with strangers on the internet. I never met any irl. There are tons of crazies that you’ll never see walking around outside on the internet though
I guess I feel somewhat satisfied that I was able to successfully deconstruct /pol/'s per capita argument by assembling a simple model that demonstrated statistical distortions in the metric is calculated.Still, arguing against multiple of those cretinous dipshits really showed me how genuinely braindead they are.Oh well, I'll find myself going back there at some point because they're probably the most hostile and insecure mass of man-children on the internet, so contradicting their screwy logic is fairly entertaining.
>>25456853You’re a pathetic, embarrassing, arrogant loser. Your unearned superiority complex is transparently fragile. Please go away.
>>25456438Have they solved AI hallucination problem?
>>25456853>deconstruct /pol/'s per capita argument by assembling a simple model that demonstrated statistical distortions in the metric is calculated.Lmao yeah right bro
>>25456860That's an awfully harsh assessment to make with very little information. I don't consider myself to be superior to almost anyone, at least in an absolute sense. >>25456864It's really not that difficult. I would show you, but you probably don't care, anyway.
>>25456900Yeah sure pal, disprove the entire concept of per capita. Go ahead
>>25456917I'm not disproving the entire concept of per capita, but in how the concept can lead to errors in statistical inference.But whatever, here you go.Take a group of 300 people.Separate 100 into Group A and place them in conditions that would exacerbate crime.Then, take the remaining 200 as Group B, and place them into an environment that doesn't.If everyone in Group A commits a crime, and everyone in Group B doesn't, but you still combine the two into a singular group like we do with racial statistics, you can erronously conclude that all 300 have the same baseline of potential for committing a crimes.So, that's where the error occurs. Per capita is still a useful metric, but /pol/ interprets the data poorly and conclude that black people are inherently more violent than whites, when they actually aren't.
>>25456932How does that debunk /pol/? A core /pol/ talking point about black crime incorporates that very concept. 13% commits over 50% of crime, but writhing that 13% only males age whatever to whatever are responsible for the majority of the crime which just whittles the argument down to an even more shocking stat where even less blacks are clearly a huge problem
>>25456966>writhingWithin*. Sorry I’m driving
>>25456968>Sorry I’m drivingStick to driving before you kill somebody else dumbfuck
>>25456975No, fuck you
>>25456966Because it helps demonstrate the fact that the vast majority of black Americans aren't actually criminals, just a minority of them that distorts the statistics, and its the environmental conditions of this minority is what actually matters, because that's what you're left with when you appropriately isolate the variables, rather than continue to assume that it's some inherent racial characteristic.
>>25456993>because that's what you're left with when you appropriately isolate the variables
>>25456993You understand that every racial group has their own inter-populational segments like the very young or old who also do not contribute to their races crime numbers? What difference does it make when comparing two different groups? It’s called an aggregate and we’re all in one
>>25457007Household wealth substantially reduces the racial gap, but doesn't necessarily close it, but there are many other environmental conditions that can influence this gap, such as the fact that even affluent black families generally live in areas with higher police presence, which leads to greater exposure to the legal system, or the fact that white people who are arrested are 25% percent more likely to have criminal charges reduced or dropped in the case of felonies, and 75% more likely in the case of misdemeanors.So, as tiresome as it may be to here, there are clear systemic issues that can be attributed to this gap.
>>25457035Come on man. I’m not /pol/ and I don’t think black people are inherently violent. If there is anything genetic contributing to it, which I don’t know about either way, I doubt it would be so influential or widespread of a genetic impact to actually be the cause. But I’m also not going to live in your fantasy world where nothing is ever black people’s fault and it’s all systemic racism and society. It is a cultural problem. We both know it. For every one unfair outcome in a courtroom five thousand crimes that weren’t even charged exist in parallel. Black guys are 8x more likely to get a cap in their ass than white guys. Why do you think that is?
>arguing against statisticsWhy? You can argue the wrong variable is being counted, that correlation isnt causation, but per capita is like retard statistics 101.
>>25457018Sure, but the majority of crimes committed by black Americans are by a very small percentage of the entire population, namely young males in high-poverty urban centers, so it's still wrong to conclude from this data that black people are inherently more predisposed to criminality than white people, especially when white males, who are impoverished in structurally similar conditions to this minority of black males, rather than simply being below the poverty line in a relatively more advantaged environment, exhibit similar rates of crime.So, generally speaking, a black male and a white male who are in the same income bracket can live still live in structurally unequal environments.
>>25457064El wrongo, what happens when you adjust for the environmental variables? Oh, that's right, the same correlation shows up because it's agnostic of geography, and you now have an excuse to justify poor behaviour with your preachy condescending faggotry.You are making assumptions. Many assumptions. So many assumptions that data does not support them and it renders measurement useless. For ideological purposes. Data is data, this isnt a critique of data, it's a post hoc justification for your thesis.
>>25457050No, I honestly agree with you to a degree, and believe that black people taking more responsibility for their conditions is essential for their collective empowerment, but systemic inequalities do exist, and part of exercising personal responsibility is taking control over your environment when conditions have been unfairly stacked against you.You would have to agree that police were much more racist towards black people in the 50s and 60s, setting dogs on them and spraying them with hoses and shit when they were engaging in non-violent protests. Conditions have admittedly improved someone, but many black people still live in the same crime-ridden, underfunded neighborhoods that they were basically forced into through segregation, and much of what black culture has experienced is as state of decay because they lacked access to economic opportunities that would've generated more wealth for their communities, largely by design.So, while I agree with the idea that we shouldn't want to treat black people like infants, but I also recognize that they have still been treated unjustifiably for a very long time, and society still hasn't rectified these issues.
>>25457082You know you're on a board that specializes in both semiotics and rhetoric, right? Tell me anon, how unbiased is your prose?
>>25457069>the same correlation shows up because it's agnostic of geography,I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say here, are you saying that crime rates among blacks between the inner city and suburbs are functionally identical? Because that would be wrong.>and now you have an excuse to justify poor behaviour with your preachy condescending faggotry.That seems bizarrely hostile for no apparent reason, but regardless, I used to know a white girl in my town that ended up savagely beaten, held for ransom, and was almost certainly killed with her body incinerated in a steel drum, all by an impoverished black man. I don't seek to justify or excuse this behavior by saying that he was a victim of his environment and should be sympathized with, but on the other hand, if you were starved, beaten, and forced into a hostile environment where you would most likely have to kill someone in order to survive, it's very likely that you would, just to be charged with murder and sentenced to prison. So, structural conditions do highly influence the behavior of people, regardless of whether or not they could fully justify certain acts of criminality, such as selling drugs because there are no job opportunities in your area.>Your making assumptions.What assumptions do you think I'm making? Because the convergence of criminal behavior in white males and black males in similar environmental conditions is just factual data.
>>25457085I suppose that depends.Would you attribute the difference of belief between considering black people to be genetically inferior and considering race to be an invalid biological classification to be a product of mere biases, or simply a matter of opinion?
>>25456848It's the other way around.
Your behavior is unacceptable.
>>25457113So, no you cannot discuss your bias, and made it even more explicit. Aint nobody got time for a slanted condescending fuck.>>25457100And this is exactly the purple faggotry I'm talking about: a long elaborate answer that is mostly you passive aggressively begging someone else to agree with you by attempting to guilt trip them.Do you wish to actually discuss the subject, or are you here to proselytize? The answer is obvious, but I'm happy to use your exact tricks more effectively than you do in absence of a real argument.
>>25457217I'm not condescending, but the recognition that race is not a legitimate biological category is not a bias in the same way that my emotional sympathies are biased by the information. If I had a different psychological constitution, but still believed in the same essentially framework, whatever it happened to be composed on could influence my biases into being less sympathetic, but more dry ande legalistic.So, basically, if I had to say, it's been my personal experiences with black people that most likely bias me to sticking up for them, because I get along with them fairly easily, even though I have various subconscious, racist tendencies towards them that I don't really feel guilty or ashamed about, but rather just annoyed because I don't know why exactly they occur.>passive aggressively begging someone else to agree with you by attempting to guilt trip then.I'm also not being passive-aggressive. I don't really feel any type of hostility in this interaction that would necessitate such a response other than what's coming from you.>Do you wish to actually discuss the subject?I've been doing so this entire time. People offer their responses, and I respond back. It's been a relatively steady conversation thus far.
>>25457252>I'm not condescending>but let me condescendingly explain my position like you're retarded>while ignoring the fundamental issue, that I am transparently pushing an ideological viewpoint and using this discussion to do so>and despite all that, didnt understand the nature of the criticism in the first place, because I'm used to posting in places that let me do thisHo hum. Anyways, let me do what you're doing, but more effectively.The pathological nature of verisimulitude within identitarian rhetoric is applied unequally along systemic lines; those who are permitted to do so reap tremendous rewards, while those who are not permitted to do so are increasingly marginalized by the people who are allowed. The manifestation is paradoxical at first, because by all appearances the reticent transparency of these ideologies is only apparent to those within the groups, but all outward facing discourse centers around systemic disadvanteges on the historical axis, ignoring all gains in the contemporary. As such, the groups advocating for the magnitude of their own disadvantage have concurrently received greater and greater while advocating that they have less and less. This is a dialectic of self maximization. It is a fundamental dishonesty because it provides no resolution, and continued restitution in perpetuity, because the historical felecity is exponentially "bad", requiring continued good and amnesty forever to offset it. The argument is no longer about what data says, but what they can say the data says to support their position, when their actual argument is for the reorientation of society along Frankfurt lines.Per capita is a fine metric because it's about the rate of instances. If people commited fewer instances of activity, the data would reflect more positively. Any sample can be jerrymandered forever to justify any datapoint you want, but at the end of the day you ignore self determination in favour various stratification, the emancipation from which becomes increasingly impossible and the individual becomes increasingly less responsible, when a composite group being criticized can better address the nature of the criticism due to the multiplicity of opinion.Suck my dick, greentext and misread as you want, you uneducated faggot. Should be crystal clear what my problem with you is.
*heavily shits my diaper*ooooooohhhhhhhhhhh *Turns up "numb" by Linkin Park to max volume*
4chan is boring today and for the last few days
>Be weak sissy>Like weak sissy things>Start lashing out like a weak sissy>Get assraped>Double down into irony poisoning>Other person triples down>You Quadruple down>Ultimately the genuinely worse and more hollow person wins
>>25457383The internet died.
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>>25457341I generally don't have many people perceive that I'm condescending, and many discussions on here revolve around trying to "push" an ideological viewpoint. You have literary criticisms and philosophical debates, or just basic opinions about some cultural trend in regard to literature, so why you're trying to single me out as if I'm committing some travesty is just weird to me.But yeah, I'm going to greentext, so whatever, smirk or get irate or do whatever it is you feel like doing, but this is genuinely interesting stuff, even if you're trying to embarrass me with the overtly technical language, which is honestly just kind of petty, if I were to be mildly combative about it.Oh well, here we go.>those who are permitted to do so reap tremendous rewards, while those are not permitted to do so so are increasingly marginalized by the people who are allowed.Yeah, this was the seeming double-standard imposed on whomever was defined as an "oppressor" that I, being white, found rather annoying, too, and largely why I modulated this feeling by acknowledging that systems of oppression are established from genuine states of misunderstanding, so in the same sense that a modern black male can be summarized by a state of his conditions, the same liberty would have to be extended to any human being. You can't reasonably apply the same moral standard to people in the past to hold them accountable, because there's a fundamental disconnect in stages of development. Our ancestors weren't "evil" for enslaving Africans per se, because they lacked the conditions to make the determination that doing so was fundamentally wrong, when now it's almost universally agreed to be so.>centers around systemic disadvantages on the historical axis, ignoring all gains in the contemporary.I don't think that's an accurate assessment, honestly, oppressed groups often acknowledge that progress has been made in their favor, aren't trying to demand anything that would invert the relationship between oppressor and oppressed, though there are definitely some perpetual malcontents that probably wish for this to be the case, but I hardly believe this is conventional.>The argument is no longer about what the data says, but what they can say the data says to support their position.So, what, the statistical evidence that wealth reduces crime rate is just a selfish fabrication? I don't think you actually have an alternative interpretation of the data that would be very convincing.>Per capita is a fine metricSure, in many instances, but there are limitations to it, which is what my model in my old ass post basically demonstrated.Lol, I'm not going to greentext this, but it's kind of obvious that you're struggling and reaching by the end here. Strong collective identities don't necessarily cause individual responsibility to deteriorate, in fact they often act as an effective foundation where individuals can organize themselves in such a way that secures their autonomy. (cont
>>25457428So you ignored everything I said because I used a higher level of diction, then restated your four or five points? Classic. Anon, this wasnt an argument. I was saying something biased on purpose to get you to agree to assumptions then negotiate your position with a dialectic, using rhetoric and explicit bias.
>>25457341It's the whole essence of society.So, basically, you think identity politics are enabling a culture where people demand more and more without a point of termination, restricts multiplicity of opinion in favor of rigid uniformity, and yadda yadda, I get the gist.That was definitely something, I guess. It's inaccurate in the senses I've already stated, but it was an interesting read nonetheless, so I appreciate your input. If I misunderstood anything, feel free to point that out, but I have to go to work in like ten minutes, so I'm afraid I can't continue the conversation for very long.>Should be crystal clear what my problem is with you.Not really, but I could just lack basic self-awarness. I think I'm pretty alright, so whatever this problem is with me isn't something I feel compelled to resolve, because it's not my problem.
>>25457177What did I do?
>>25457444>So you ignored everything I said.No, I read it to the best of my ability, which is why I summarized the points you seemed to be making, but if this wasn't an actual argument, then I suppose that was my mistake.>negotiate your position with a dialectic, using rhetoric and explicit bias.So, what, you wanted me to present a biased position?Fuck, I gotta go. Genuinely interesting conversation though, man.Later.
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>>25457449Bruh, can you read? Clearly you didnt. Uniformity of opinion had nothing to do with anything. And you've been here all day shitposting, so the second someone told you to fuck off you went running? Step it up senpai.
>>25457461No. I was doing exactly what you were doing more effectively: presenting a biased argument, then amelorate consensus through a dialectic. And I understand you didnt understand what I'm saying because I used very specific political theory to back it up that I knew you werent familiar with, thus couldnt challenge effectively. The objective was to tell you to fuck off with your tricks pretending to be the smartest person in the world because you have a poor foundation of the subject, and rely primarily on rhetoric, not argumentation.
>>25457468thank you :)