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Metamorphoseon editio

>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·
>>25423360

>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·
https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw

>Mέγα τὸ ANE·
https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg

>Work in progress FAQ
https://rentry dot co/n8nrko

All Classical languages are welcome.
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for Greekanons
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Sodales
Auxilio mihi sitis, quaeso. Consilium ferte.
Abhinc quattuor menses Latine discere conatus sum. Quotidie libro studeo. Quotidie sententiolas Latinas scribo. Quotidie condiscipulo cuidam epistulas Latinas mitto...
Condiscipulum istum amicum esse credidi, at pessime erravi. Nam ab illo litteras accepi quibus "si re vera latine discere vis" scripserat "pelliculas has in YouTube specta, quas hic tibi mitto".
Equidem, terribilis fati nescius, pelliculas illas magno cum gaudio spectavi.
O dii immortales! Utinam numquam YouTube creatus esset! Nam nonnullis pelliculis spectatis (me miserum!), omnes meos capillos emisi. Nullum est nunc discrimen inter caput meum et album melopeponem. Heu! Auxilium ferre, sodales!
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Get reading boys
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>>25462410
The difficulty of Ad Alpes is consistent, and it's written pretty simply for the most part. I'd say Sermones Romani is harder when taken as a whole.
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>>25462613
Istud consilum mihi nimis sero venit. Iam omnino calvus sum. Vale.
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>>25462701
roll classical
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>>25462701
>Anonymous Valesianus: ORIGO CONSTANTINI IMPERATORIS
Holy kino. Interesting is how the author uses different ways to describe death. Constantine is the only person in the narrative to "obiit" which is way more peaceful than the descriptions of the pagan emperors that die in the narrative. I took the time to read the whole thing.

>>25462873
OP digits are dubs, so it's misc NERD
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>>25461962
>voluminous commentaries in easy latin of poetry
Care to share some?
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>>25462883
>so it's misc NERD
nah that’s dumb I’ll do as I please
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>>25463181
Raphael Regius's commentary on Ovid is the only one I have a .pdf of and for the life of me I don't know where I got it from. That's what makes it frustrating.
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>>25462701
Roll
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>>25462613
nullust opus caesarie cui latinitatis sit peritia, adstantibus haud egebit puellis
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>>25462613
>quattour menses
Esto patiens.
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>>25462701
>>25463728
CARMEN FRATRUM ARVALIUM
>enos Lases iuvate
O Lares, nos iuvate
>neve lue rue Marmar sins incurrere in pleoris
O Mars, luem et ruem (plague and ruin) incurrere in plures ne sinas
>satur fu, fere Mars, limen sali, sta berber
O fere Mars: satur esto, limen sali, sta berber(?)
>semunis alterni advocapit conctos
Vos coniunctos, alternatim Semones advocate
>enos Marmor iuvato
O Mars, nos iuvato
>triumpe triumpe triumpe triumpe triumpe
O Thriambe (Dionyse)
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>>25463833
>Although the inscription was probably created in 218, it is possible that the song itself may date back to the 4th-century BCE, as it is written in an archaic form of Old Latin.[5] The text includes numerous archaic Latin forms, such as "lases" instead of "lares," though still contains later forms such as "iuvate." Furthermore, the text contains multiple separate forms of the same word, such as the varying forms pleores and pleoris.
Cool roll anon. Also checked.
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>>25462701
Quomodo dicitur ‘rolling’? Aleam iaco?
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>>25462404
πάλῳ χρῶμαι
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>>25464244
>αὖθις διττὼ ὡς ἐν τῷ πρὶν νήματι
φιλοῦσί μ' οἱ Δίτταρχοι θεοί! >>25462404
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>>25464193
fortasse etiam “sortem mitto” sit ut in carmina burana dictum est.
>sed pro Baccho mittunt sortem
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>>25464248
>On the Giants
read the first three chapters, one can already see both how much Platonism influenced him(the part about the analogy on the kinds of souls which manage to "emerge out of the whirl of the river" resembles what Socrates says in the Phaedo about the souls of those who dedicate their life to philosophy vs those who don't) but also the language I met in the the corpus hermeticum
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>>25464193
do me aleae maybe works
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>>25464193
On further reflection, since the source word is “rolling” with the word for dice being implied, we ought to dispense with explicitly saying sortem or alea at all and could just say “mitto”
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>>25464788
consentio
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>>25464193
Everyone knows the phrase "alea iacta est" (or "iacta alea est"), so "iacio" (note the "-io") seems the best choice. (That is, unless anyone can adduce quotations demonstrating otherwise.)
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>>25465048
That’s fair. While I have seen mitto used, that was again in a medieval text, and in classical idiom makes less sense.
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>>25462701
cedo bonos age Sors
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>>25465111
I looked up "mitto" in L&S to see if it had any interesting examples. It pointed to one place in Sueotnius where iacere and mittere are both used in regards to dice (tali, supposedly dice with four marked flat faces and two round unmarked faces, as apposed to tesserae, which have six marked faces).

https://artflsrv03.uchicago.edu/philologic4/LewisShort521/query?report=bibliography&method=proxy&q=&start=0&end=0&head=%5Emitto

>Inter cenam lusimus geronticos et heri et hodie; talis enim iactatis, ut quisque canem aut senionem miserat, in singulos talos singulos denarios in medium conferebat, quos tollebat universos, qui Venerem iecerat." Et rursus aliis litteris: "Nos, mi Tiberi, Quinquatrus satis iucunde egimus; lusimus enim per omnis dies forumque aleatorium calfecimus.
https://www.thelatinlibrary.com/suetonius/suet.aug.html

At a minimum, you can establish that both mittere and iacere are authentic dice terminology, and they seem to be used more or less synonymously here. I doubt they were exact synonyms, but assuming they have an identical meaning in the context of dice playing, I would prefer "iacio" because it more clearly evokes throwing, whereas "mitto" is more generic and sounds weaker.
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>>25465818
>Nam quod ad synopsim pontium pertinet, fluminum latitudines dicere, etiam si hostis infestare voluisset, ex proxima ripa poteramus. Expugnandorum deinde montium altitudines ut sciremus, venerabilis diis ratio monstrabat.
that's pretty cool, this is basically recalling the intercept theorem, there's even the very same example on wikipedia about this application i.e measuring the width of a river from just one side, even if the other is full of enemies and thus you can't measure it directly
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>>25465871
Sick.

>>25465853
Thanks. The only point I would offer for mitto then is that “rolling” is itself maybe not that forceful of a verb, meaning it matches up more with mitto idiomatically then something like iacio. Like, do we say we’re “throwing” the dice?

Also, really splitting hairs, but if someone puts a full phrase, sors makes more sense for digits on 4chan since it’s not really dice but a more generic number generation/gambling system.

It also occurred to me that I have seen mitto used with sortem in Late Latin, specifically in psalm 21, and in the 4 gospels, being the prophecy of the soldiers casting lots for the messiah’s garments, which is probably why that’s present in medieval idiom later on in the Carmina Burana.

Iacio is totally fine though lol.
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>>25462613
>lost hair myself coincidentally the years I spent the most time on Latin and Greek
gets the noggin joggin
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What's the best way to self-study with picrel with regard to the exercises? What am I actually meant to do once I get something wrong? Come back to it again in an hour, hoping I've forgotten the answer I read off the key? Are there alternate exercises I can do somewhere for practice?
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>>25467576
>exercises
The drills, I meant
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Does anyone know where to find a list of all of the endings of every greek dialect?
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>>25468201
closest one I know would be https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Ancient_Greek_dialectal_declension
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>>25468254
Thank you sir!
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speaking Latin feels too larpy, but I feel like if I won't know how to speak it at least decently well I won't feel like I really know Latin
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>>25468376
>speaking Latin feels too larpy
Subordinate it to your reading habit. It exists to grow your proficiency, which grows your reading ability. LARP is doing something retarded like calling yourself a flamen and doing rituals in the woods.
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>>25468376
>feels too larpy
who care
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Translation challenge y'all.

Easy:
Arrows aren't easy to make.
Why is that bird crossing the road?
I have asked for eggs not sausages.

Medium:
They expected more than enough men to come before dawn.
Each of the required payments must be made within this month.
If the king hadn't rejected the peace offering, maybe they would've invaded anyway.

Hard:
In order to get to the harbor without the enemy party lying in an ambush for days spotting and killing you mercilessly, consider, if you have enough courage, the path cutting through the valley in the middle of the island: why courage you say? there's a reason the island's indigenous population never considered settling it nor does it even exploit the region for wood or foraging, whatever lurks in there, beast or god, lets people in but as far as anyone knows lets nobody out. Will you be the first to prove everyone wrong? Good luck, you'll need it.
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>>25468615
οὐκ εὐτελὲς τᾠστοποιεῖν
τίη πέραν ὁδοῦ 'κεῖνος ὥρνις διαβαίνει;
ᾦα οὐ μὴν ἀλλᾶντας ἀπαίτησα

προσεδόκησαν πρὶν ὄρθρον μολεῖν ἅδην ἄνδρας
ὑποτελεστέος δασμὸς ἕκαστος τοῦτου τοῦ μηνός
εἰ μὴ 'ρνήθη ὥναξ τὴν εἰρήνης ἐπαγγελίαν, ἴσως ἄν οὐδὲν ἧττον προσέβαλον

ἵν' εἰς λιμέν' ἥκῃς λοχούντων σε τῶν πολεμίων πολλοὺς ἤδη 'μέρας μὴ αἰσθησομένων καὶ σφαξόντων σε νηλεῶς, σκόπει ἐάν σοι θάρσος τὸν διὰ τῆς νάπης διάγοντα πόρον ἐν μέσῃ τῇ νήσῳ· διὰ τί θάρσον φῄς; οὐ μὴν οὐδενὸς χάριν οἱ αὐτόχθονες οὔποτε κατῴκισαν οὔτε ξυλοτόμους ἢ ἐπισιτιστὰς πέμπουσιν εἴσω τῆς χώρας· ὁτιοῦν κεύθει θὴρ ἢ θεὸς ἐνδέχεται μὲν τοὺς προσέρχοντας ἀλλ' ὥς γε πᾶσι δοκεῖ οὐδένας δ' ἀφίησιν. ἆρά συ πρῶτος διασκεδεῖς ταύτην τὴν φήμην; εὖ χωροῖς, δέον γὰρ τύχης.
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I wish Latin still maintained a productive locative case, instead of just a few remnants usages.
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just finished familia romana ask me anything
chapter 35 is really boring so I just spent like one hour total studying it
now I begin Wheelock's Latin and extensive reading
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>>25469203
why are you reading wheelock’s if you already read FR. that’s a lot of time that could be spent reading actual Latin
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It's kind of crazy that in a given chunk of Roma Aeterna, as early as cap. 40, I'll find like 4x the unknown vocabulary compared to Caesar. Like, the sentence structure is absolutely more straightforward and clear, but the vocab ramp up in Roma Aeterna is brutal.

I read the introduction to the companion and it said that a rigorous pace for covering Roma Aeterna in school would be 2 years lmao. I'm thinking I'm going to take the sections that the companion breaks it up into and treat them as individual works for the purpose of deep study and review.



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