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Private Eye edition

>Recommended reading charts (Look here before asking for vague recommendations):
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ/folder/4rAmSZxb

>Banned Authors:
Joe Abercrombie
A.A. Attanasio
R. Scott Bakker
C.J. Cherryh
Glen Cook
Steven Erikson
R.A. Lafferty
Mark Lawrence
George R.R. Martin
Patrick Rothfuss
Gene Wolfe

>Archive:
https://warosu.org/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=sffg

>Goodreads:
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/1029811-sffg

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We love you goat
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>>25471784
When does The Way of Kings get good?
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>>25471806
Words of Radiance
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>>25471806
When anona ask sincere questions.
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Domination of Draka is pretty entertaining. Best combat scenes I've read in a military science fiction book in years, really vivid especially for an author who I see has had no military training whatsoever. The whole "Apartheid Africa conquers the world" bit is kind of marred by his constant bringing up of lesbian sex (the excuse is that both boys and girls are segregated into their own sex schools until their eighteen so the girls apparently develop a taste for pussy) which is hilarious because the men all seem to be devoid of that defect (thankfully) it's also strangely "progressive" in the sense that all men and women in Draka society are raised and trained as soldiers from birth and both men and women serve in mixed-sex military units where mates can serve side-by-side if they choose to do so.

I often wonder why so many older hat scifi writers are almost always either outright pro-sex freedom or just generally perverts who work in their own fetishes for their own kicks (I'm looking at YOU, Larry Niven, you dirty old bastard) I guess I can just chock it up to them all living during and probably being thoroughly engrossed in, the counterculture movements of the sixties. It's definitely a book written in the mid-to-late eighties.
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>>25471826
>men and women serve in mixed-sex military units
Russia does this somewhat.
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>>25471832
There's been no gay rape among the ranks in this book.
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>>25471832
That's Ukraine. I've not seen a SINGLE Russian soldier killed that wasn't a guy.
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Got ‘All Tomorrow’s Parties’ by William Gibson at a book sale but didn’t realize it was a sequel. Is the Bridge trilogy good?
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>>25471826
>Draka
Hey it's that book that one schizo wanted us to talk about without him discussing it at all!
>the girls apparently develop a taste for pussy
You already make it sound interesting. Does a white MC (male) convert a black lesbian?
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book reading:D
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>>25471857
The main character (A blonde-haired, blue-eyed aristocratic land-owner become army commander) lives in a master/serf plantation society where he gets to fuck his brown self property as he sees fit.
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>>25471860
Yay!
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>>25471862
>self
*serf*
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>>25471862
Very nice. I sure hope they have lesbian sex behind his back, though.
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>>25471860
I LIEK REEDIN' BEWKS!! :^DD>>25471867
>>25471867
There's an early scene where he goes to collect his favorite fuck wench (she belongs to his sister) only to find her busy eating her out so he has to wait.
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>>25471872
Damn. This book has it all, doesn't it?
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>>25471875
Yup :^)
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You people are SICK
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>>25471900
Yeaaaah, we're pretty cool...
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If Priest wanted to make a point, then I don't see it. Even if Elizabeth is right, which I think we are to believe that she is, it still changes nothing. Normal life for Helward and his people is basically impossible. The optimum has fucked them beyond repair. Besides, how are we to know if her perception isn't wrong and Helward's is right? The only point I can think of is that it doesn't matter in the slightest.
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>>25471944
Book any good? I've had it on my list forever.
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https://claude.ai/share/394b0ea2-0f61-4185-ac7a-da113b7cb5ec
Okay this story just becomes retarded slop. This is just one of presumably many plotlines, and its anime tier. "Special Miller ghost directly wired to the brain!"

It just gets more and more suspicious, I'm starting to notice things I didnt think much of before that could have pointed me in this direction...Will I ever find a well written fantasy/sci-fi novel? Who knows.
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>>25471862
Modern slavery stories are so much more boring than actual slavery.
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>>25471971
No, you won't. Cut your losses and give up.
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>>25471953
Not him but yes it's very good.
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>>25471953
It's ok. The worldbuilding is interesting.
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>>25471976
Didn't ask.
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>>25472018
You did when you shilled this gay book again.
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Just read Revival. Surprisingly good late Stephen King, might be my favorite I've read by him. Better than any other modern attempt at cosmic horror I've read. Very uncomfortable and dread-inducing, and sticks the ending.
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Why aren’t Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson on the banned authors list?
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>>25472030
Shut up, pagebitch/baynetranny.
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Everyanon who says things I don't like is Baynefag.
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>>25472065
I just bake the threads. I don't make the rules.
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>>25472065
There are no banned authors.
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Have any of you lads submitted to a magazine?
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A BAYNEFAG FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
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>>25471826
The boys don't go prison gay at boarding school because their dads usually buy them a concubine as a birthday present sometime in their mid teens, so they imprint on girls early. It's actually a plot point in the first book.
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>>25472231
I refuse to believe an adult male wrote this. Guys go prison gay because they're going through pussy withdrawal not because they don't know what pussy looks like. If you get kids in their early teens hooked on pussy at home then send them into an all male environment, that's a recipe for supersaturated faggotry.
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>>25472243
I could totally believe it was written by an adult male who went prison gay at boarding school despite knowing what a pussy looked like and tried to retcon his way out of it.
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>>25472243
They might have had some access to their concubines during school, I can't remember.
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>>25472255
honestly that makes sense
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This reeks of silly anime bullshit and I mean reeks. If you've watched enough anime you'll know how much the spontaneous inanimate object somehow imbued with somebodys spirit bullshit comes up, sometimes itll be whole islands, sometimes itll be a ship, a car, a weapon. It doesn't matter, anime loves this stupid shit for some reason. And what it indicates to me, is what all anime indicates to me, such a brazen disregard and lack of care for any substance or having to engage with the complex implications of their realities, thaat theyll just do whatever the fuck they want because itll seem cool or interesting to teenagers. Japan loves the "Robot whos basically exactly like a human" trope and I know this doesnt originate from Japan, but even in my much younger more pedantic ways, I always hated that trope, because it cheats over the reason why anybody wouldn't think of a Robot human, by arbitrarily bypassing all the seeming limitations of creating artificial conscious life, and just going "What the hell!! this robot is basically literally my nakama! and does everything my nakama do! Ill never let you obvious evil bad guy with zero substance discriminate against him for the obvious arbitrary reasons that the story has made inherent and true rendering your whole perspective incoherent and borderline impossible since you have no real reason to discriminate other than some retard with an intuition about discrimination that doesnt actually understand it, having their bias confirmed!"

Anyway the "Julie is the space station" shit is retarded. Why would the protomolecule emphasize her emotions and feelings over the millions it killed? The implication is that because she was the first it got to, but thats arbitrary, if we look at an AI, it should has no inherent attachment to its first model, to the first piece of information it acquired. It would end up subsuming such an overwhelming amount of feelings emotions and personalities that it should override and mainstay from Julie. Unless you pull some anime "stronger wills just do whatever they want" bullshit.
Also Naomi calling the protomolecule not magic, indicates a lack of understanding of magic, but also of science. If somebody were to jump onto a 4 story building like a superhero, science could explain that with velocity, force, mass calculations and whatnot, they could even abstractly explain how it could happen (the energy and mass transfer that goes into it) it would not though be able to explain how its possible for a human being to do that, and exert that much force without destroying their legs or body somehow. There are like hundreds of things science still doesn't know "why" work a certain way, science functions in a fundamental way where it cant answer certain questions lest it remain science.

The question of why we dont call phenomenon magic is likely more a sociohistorical question than anything. But my point is, Naomi is retarded, and the protomolecule as a concept is retarded like anime
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Thought provoking sci-fi suggestions? Could be due to parallels to and commentary on real events, unexpected consequences of technology (just not black mirroresque "everyone goes gay because technology" or w/e), authors thoughts on life, something like that; I just want to read something in a sci-fi setting with some depth so it's not just "waow ebin space lasers!!1"
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>>25472439
Philip K Dick, Arthur C Clarke - I could go on.
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Ok, so if sanderson, grrm, rowling, hail mary guy, the chinese guy, etc. are bad writers (at least at prose level), who's good then?
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>>25472444
Philip K Dick, Arthur C Clarke - I could go on.
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Perhaps...The Stars only the most cultured science fiction fans get this reference
On a more serious note. It is genuinely saddening and hurtful that this book would disappoint me like this. Seriously, what person is reading the 2nd book after this book? Even if you ignore all my criticism, Leviathan Wakes just had zero depth whatsoever to offer, and the "mystery" was all but self contained. By the end of the book the only reason to continue is based on a baseless assumption that the protomolecule will somehow do something different on Venus with no biomass than it did on Eros. We don't know anything about the aliens, barely even a tease to keep one going. If youre somehow interested in how the political powers respond, thats another thing that was given no depth. I still have no real clue why Earth attacked Mars, and what Mars is even mad about. Earth attacked Mars because...information became public that Earth made ships killed a Mars station? So the attack was preemptive? There's nothing actually understood about Mars or Earth as political entities, and I know that the 2nd book will obviously pivot to trying to explain that, but the 1st book didnt give enough depth to any of Earth or Mars's actions and motivations for a non "mmm let me eat up the slop uncritically" reader to have any reason to continue.

I'm getting another frustrating feeling that im missing out, maybe im being too harsh, after all this is a serious who's best book is widely considered like the 8th book and the later books in general. But I don't want to make another Sun Eater mistake and give something a 2nd chance that had a ton of red flags in the first place, just to end up even angrier that it didnt deliver. What tends to happen, is that if you fuck up once, I dont simply expect you to be fine or less flawed next time, I expect you to be great, atleast when it comes to novels. Because its obviously not worth the investment at a point if youre simply "meh".
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>>25472436
>>25472460
https://voca.ro/1Sw6pw6nmas6
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>Sanderson not b&
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>>25472524
I love (You) anon
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>>25472444
>so if rowling
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>>25472045
Is King still overly descriptive these days?
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>>25472045
I get Stephen King is a great writer. But I can't just finish his books. I think the only I read completely was On Writing.
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>>25472645
Why do you think Stephen King is a great writer if you can't finish his books?
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SANDER BRANDONSON
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>>25471778
Sometimes I think about Soulcatcher....
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FUCK it is good
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>>25470136
Re-posting in the new thread since I waited too long in the old one. I just finished Bleak Seasons. While it kept pace fine, I guess, the whole jumping back and forth thing wasn't great. Also I prefer having Croaker or Lady as the narrator. Is it going to be Murgen from now on? He's a bit of a drag.
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>>25472725
'ick on man
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>>25472460
I really wonder how long you're going to keep this up. Maybe after Dune disappoints you at the end of the year, and it surely will, in the new year you'll tell yourself that you gave books, or at least SFF, sufficient chance and move on to something else.
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Is this still a Bakker circlejerk, or do „we“ also read other books by now?
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>>25472765
>Bakker
Banned author.
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>>25472765
Bakkerfag is now banned author fag apparently. Just ignore him and talk about whatever you want.
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>>25472765
People are now getting mad and passive aggressive if you talk about any books at all.
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>>25472775
>it's real in my head
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Gene Wolfe is good
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>>25472785
u wot m8
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Gene Poo
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Why's Abercrombie banned? Is the banned list just a bunch of people that were already talked about endlessly here and consensus is to shut the fuck up about them now?
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>>25472873
TAKE IT BACK
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>>25472888
>>25472774
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A Psalm for the Wild-Built
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>>25472888
I'd love to answer this question, but we are not allowed to talk about banned authors.
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>>25472888
Because everyone who names him gets trips.
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>>25472910
>published after 2010
>female author
>hugo award
>blurb by hugo award winning female author
It's total shit, isn't it?
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>>25472913
It's okay anon, we'll just have a little private call right here. I'm curious.
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I'm not convinced that the reaction to the banned author list is anything other than the OP trying to push their narrative. I don't want to believe that every thread there's some who believes that it's authentic and that they're sincerely asking about it.
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>>25472728
The best books are ones set in the North, with the Taken. Later books have Soulcatcher and that Glen Cook writing style that I sometimes enjoy, but I don't care about characters and overall plot much.
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>>25472939
Please refrain from discussing the new banned authors policy. Thank you.
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>>25472947
I only wonder how much this is trolling and how much it's humor.
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>>25472439
John Crowley's Beasts.
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>>25472439
The Deluge
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/23314259#p23314723
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>>25472939
>>25472953
It's Baynefag
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>>25473089
I doubt that.
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What's your favourite dark academia book?
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Reading the Wiki summaries really just emphasize to me that The Expanse was likely shit. If you can see plot contrivances and anime bullshit and how badly written the villain of the book must be to take certain actions in the wiki summaries then its hard to imagine any of that writing being good.
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>>25473089
It's yev. It's always yev. He is the cause of all problems. He even brought everyone who is a problem here....because he is all of them. He's everyone in the Goodreads group and almost every anon in this general.
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>>25473110
Seems you better read the wiki summaries before you invest any of your time.
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Hey, pagespammer how about you just read a book in its entirety before you start posting about it?

That would be cool and sane and human of you.
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>>25473107
>dark academia
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A YEV FLEW OVER MY HOUSE THE OTHER WAY
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>>25472443
>>25473055
>>25473083
TY
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>>25473194
A Yiddish Electronic Vehicle!?
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>>25472725
more like FUCK it is depressing
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>>25471826
How far are you into Draka? I might blog about the flying island series I'm reading. I'm only about 30%-40% into the first book (of 3). The author spent a lot of time dropping expositional worldbuilding paragraphs. Wish I had a map and I had a properly formatted copy of the fucking book(s).
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>>25473351
nta
Seems like a skill issue
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>>25473371
>random /v/GPT comment
?
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>>25473163
I think that's that one Harry Potter but in Jew college book.
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I am scared to read books now. I don't know what to read next, even though Leviathan Wakes only really took 4 or 5 days to read and thats shorter than usual, it felt like it somehow took forever to read, and I'm scared of the commitment, how many more books will I have to commit myself to, that trick me into thinking they are good or fine until they're not? Do I have to be stricter and stop reading books at the earliest sign of a red flag? But that just seems too unfair.

Also I indubitably read more books than the average anon that browses this usually bad general. It would just seem more legitimate if I read self contained non serial stories.

I have have things to read next, the question isn't what to read. The question is, whether to commit.
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>>25473406
touch grass
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>>25473406
You mean you can't tell something is shit before you read it? I've had this skill a long time
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>>25473406
It's probably time for BotNS. Series are, by and large, slop. Not much worth reading beyond on the obvious choices, as you've found. Standalone books are the ones meant to be taken seriously. I assume you've already read Hobbit and Lord of the Rings?
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>>25473406
>>25473424
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>>25473107
Babel was such a frustrating read. Character's act like idiots so the plot can be the way it is, but the plot isn't even good. The author just wants a certain outcome, and the book struggles because that outcome is retarded. It should not have been based on real world history.
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>>25473406
Your self-flagellation ever continues.
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>>25473433
>I assume you've already read Hobbit and Lord of the Rings?
When I was 12 maybe
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Grown men and women, sixty years old, twenty-five years old, sit around and talk about "the golden age of science fiction", remembering when every story in every magazine was a masterwork of daring, original thought. Some say the golden age was circa 1928; some say 1939; some favor 1953, or 1970, or 1984. The arguments rage till the small of the morning, and nothing is ever resolved.

Because the real golden age of science fiction is twelve.

—David G. Hartwell,

"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
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imagine fucking Brandon Sanderson up his fat ass, just pounding him into submission
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>>25473590
Bakker, I …
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>>25473580
>Because the real golden age of science fiction is twelve.
When I was 12 I was reading total schlock like Terry Brooks or entry level Tolkien, Lewis, ... All the best books I read in my 20s or 30s.
>The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged
Somewhat true but adults who never grew out of LotR are by far worse people.
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>>25473590
this troubles me
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>>25473590
hot
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I'm not really feeling The Wizard Knight. It's weird because the Solar Cycle is fantastic.
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>>25473646
>It's weird because the Solar Cycle is fantastic.
it's boring
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>>25473646
It's entirely different so it shouldn't be assumed that you'll like it. If you have the expectation that because you like something from an author that you'll like everything else they do, you'll have a bad time regularly.
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>>25473671
>It's entirely different
no it isn't, it uses the same writing techniques as other Wolfe novels
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>>25473580
kek this is good
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>>25473673
Well then, it must not be the writing techniques that are your primary source of enjoyment.
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>>25473671
But it feels really subpar.
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Wolfe: Poo
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>>25473646
Pay attention to the framing
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>>25473406
You could uhhhhhh.... maybe ummmmmm.... kill yourself?
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>I am... Le scared to read now!
Legitimately, sincerely, unironically, clinically.. What is wrong with this guy? He's fucking insane.
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>>25473406
Still waiting for you to get filtered by AGoT having Sansa Stark behave like an starstruck 13-year-old girl who wants to be a princess so desperately that you get mad when she behaves irrationally
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>>25473406
Just read the Ringworld books pagebitch.
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>>25473918
You've never been hesistant to or lacking the will to, or dreaded having to read a genre or subset or type of book because of enough bad experiences?
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>>25473980
No you fucking bitch.
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>>25473590
I did NOT need to read that.
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>>25473590
Was it consensual?
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What sff books have cute sisters in them?
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I think I may be completely depressed. What is a good book with a vivid fantasy world that can absorb my attention for a few hours before I falll into a deep sleep?
I am hoping to get something that is similar to the Elric series.
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This one specific CAS story I'm reading ("Seedling of Mars") ain't really hitting it. I think I like his Zothique stories better.
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Did Vance just make up words from time to time? I looked up 'roqual' in the dictionary and then googled it and nothing.
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>>25473406
What an abohorrent post
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>>25474364
He was famous for this. There is a great dictionary of all his gibberish called the Jack Vance Lexicon - the pdf is easily available online.
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>>25474372
Grue has to be the best example right?
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>>25474367
Is it really that bad?
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>>25473406
10th reply. So much attention.
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>>25474562
That's your problem hater.
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>>25474266
I remember thinking his Mars stories had cool sombre atmosphere and setting, but the stories themselves were pretty whatever.
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>>25471847
Just read a few pages of All Tomorrow's Parties and if you like the style, buy the other two books for cheap.
Virtual Light is one of my favorite sci-fi novels, I especially love the Bridge sections.
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>>25473406
Out of all the books I've read since I was an adult, I dropped under 10 books after a few pages/chapters and the main issue was my lazyness.
If I like the topic and read a few pages beforehand (pdf or legal excerpt) and I'm content with the writing style, the chance that I read it completely and am not disappointed are over 99%.
Just take a few minutes before buying a book and you won't waste your time. It helps if you actually know what you do want to read and how forgiving you are in regard to certain elements of the novel if you like other aspects well enough.
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>>25474717
His overwhelming problem is that he views reading fiction as a puzzle to be solved like the philosophy books he read previously. There's no forgiveness and what he wants is for the books to be completely logically sound and rational, as according to his preferences. Basically they should be philosophy books in prose form.
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>>25473580
>David G. Hartwell
Based.
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>>25474746
Did he already talk about Dune? Might be up his alley, for me it's mostly just philosophical babble with a slight touch of fantasy and sci-fi.
I don't think the first Dune books are bad, they're just a piss poor representation of the genre.
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Dune SUCKS
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>>25474826
this
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>>25473406
I am too scared to read this post.
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>>25474826
more like DUNC
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>>25474822
>piss poor representation of the genre
Dune is action-packed compared to Golden Age "highbrow" SF like the kind of shit Asimov was shoveling
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>>25471826
I wish someone not American or Anglo wrote mil-scifi because all American mil scifi reads like /pol/ crossed with /hc/. Maybe Draka's more like /his/ actually
I bet the French would be like that too, but tasteful
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>>25474878
Japan has written plenty of it.
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>>25474822
No, he said he's saving it for December.
>>25464212
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>>25474696
>Virtual Light
Showcases Gibson's mastery of prose but I thought he'd kind of lost his edge world building-wise there
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>>25474881
I'm admittedly unfamiliar
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>>25474888
Also, have you tried reading mil-scifi by women, or is that unsuitable?
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>>25474900
Let me guess, it has gay male sex.
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>>25472935
MOSHI MOSHI?
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>>25474900
Women writers are even weirder with their preoccupation with rape
At least male authors just go
>vgh and then he was so manly all the hot babes at the base willingly impaled themselves on his dick because every day could be their last
Women writers just open up with rape or an attempt thereof
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>>25474878
What does your newfag ass mean by randomly dropping /pol/ and then not explaining what you meant at all whatsoever? I will continue gatekeeping the mil-scifi with a dragon navy series I read because of you.
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>What does your newfag ass mean by randomly dropping /pol/ and then not explaining what you meant at all whatsoever? I will continue gatekeeping the mil-scifi with a dragon navy series I read because of you.
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>>25474864
Who says sci-fi has to be action packed? I thoroughly enjoyed the whole Robot/Foundation series, that was some actually great science fiction.
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>>25474883
That'll be interesting.
>>25474884
Sure, I remember more places from the Sprawl trilogy but the Bridge is one of my favorite locations described in books. Kowloon City as major inspiration is also a pretty interesting place to me.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLChUu4cvdkw-08q7y18XZ6DHsM2b74rDa
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>>25474967
>"Yes, I found 4chan.org after 2016. How could you tell?"
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"Yes, I found 4chan.org after 2016. How could you tell?"
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>"Yes, I found 4chan.org after 2016. How could you tell?"
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cringe unc memes ITT
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uncs be reading books in they 20s
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>>25473434
Kek
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>>25474955
>At least male authors just go
>vgh and then he was so manly all the hot babes at the base willingly impaled themselves on his dick because every day could be their last
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>>25474967
>>25475074
oof
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>>25475074
Why are you quoting him as a gigachad?
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>>25474958
>>25474987
kill yourself baynefag
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Everyanon who says things I don't like is Baynefag.
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>>25475319
No, it's yev. Stop trying to use him as a decoy.
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>>25472645
You don't really need to, desu, his strength is more in coming up with a great premise and then fucking around with it for all it's worth. The endings tend to be a bit "Whelp, I'm out of ideas, I hope you had fun"
(Granted, I still haven't read Carrie, which seems to be the complete other way around)
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>>25472785
>Gene Wolfe is good
Have you tried Poul Anderson?
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>>25475476
>Hugo and Nebula winning
Would not read
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Your thoughts on Soldiers of Paradise
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>>25475528
...and sequel Sugar Rain
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>>25475498
Claw of the Conciliator won the nebula
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>>25475476
I didn't like The Broken Sword much, to claim it was better than The Lord of the Rings like Moorcock said is an absurd delusion
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>>25475540
Case in point
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>>25475578
Sandersoned!
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>>25475338
What if Yev and Baynefag kissed in the /sffg/ thread?
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>>25475697
The thread would crash with no survivors.
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The time goes by the more it feels like I must just read First Law. But the Devils Goodreads reviews are such red flags of positivity that its just too risky. Reddits love of it is also suspicious but reddit can sometimes be right by accident
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>>25475728
You've misled yourself everytime. This will be no different.
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>>25475733
What else am I supposed to do
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>>25475773
What exactly makes you want to read it?
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>>25475728
It's extremely 3/5 and not very long. Just get it out of your system.
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>>25475528
>>25475530
Never heard of it. Why should I read it?
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>>25475728
See OP re: banned authors.
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I was talking to some anons in /grrm/ and some seem to think that only the first 3 ASOIAF books are really good. What are some recommendations that are like the first 3 ASOIAF books while also being of that high quality?
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>>25475884
All 5 books are good but the latter two are slightly weaker. I wouldnt call them bad.
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>>25475886
The anon in the /grrm/ thread called them "meh"
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>>25475892
He is wrong and I am right
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>>25475884
Why not go back and ask them? This thread doesn't need more shit piling up.
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>>25475798
Sounds fun
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What sff book most closely resembles the sensation of eating shit?
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>>25475884
Asoyaf is directly inspired by Lyonesse, and the first book of that series is quite good.
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>>25475969
source: I made it up because that's what what I want it to be
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>>25475969
GRRM loves Vance, but how the fuck is anything in that series comparable to any of the Lyonesse books?
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>>25475976
https://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/145058-was-grrm-influenced-by-robert-jordans-wheel-of-time-series/
Apparently this is a mass hallucination thing.

>>25475980
Have Google spoonfeed you the appropriate reddit posts. I'm not going to write an essay for illiterate booktoks.
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>>25476011
what are you talking about?
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>>25475528
I have the sequel but have never been able to find the first
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>>25476027
We're not going to teach you remedial Google either.
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>>25476040
>remedial Google
Now that's a dystopian story prompt.
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thoughts on picrel? just finished the first book in the series
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just finished this book, what did I think?
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Just finished the above post, what did I think?
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I have no original thoughts. Tell me what to think.
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>>25475884
Hythrun Chronicles

AFFC and ADWD aren't bad, they're just the start of an unfinished story arc that is ambitiously expansive for a story that's supposed to be finished in two books.

>>25476050
I like Pierce Brown's use of Chekov's guns that loom over the story for extensive periods.
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>>25474604
Maybe it was just my mood the last few days cause I should have been finished this 40-page novelette already, and I'm almost at the end of it and I'm enjoying it somewhat more, lol.
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>>25476112
>Hythrun Chronicles
Demon Child Trilogy or Wolfblade Trilogy? Can't really tell which one is considered Hythrun Chronicles.
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>novelette
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>>25476179
wolfblade
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>>25471778
Fucking hell, Cook is really on a roll before he croaks.

>Published together for the first time, this volume collects all nine stories set in the years between the conclusion of events in Shadows Linger and the beginning of The White Rose. Seven have appeared in various anthologies and magazines over the last decade-and-a-half, while the novelettes “Sorrows” and “Queen’s Bridge,” are original to this collection.

Garrett PI is apparently also getting a new release at some point.
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Hey guys, I used to post here semi-regularly here and in /wng/. I had a webnovel called Born Under a Black Sun that was basically just a normal fantasy book I was releasing online, (https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/93931/born-under-a-black-sun) and it did mildy well. I ended up putting the book on amazon and got about 160 sales.
Anyways, I am trying my hand at a new story. TLDR, an entire fantasy city very quickly becomes a very bad place to live. Horror fantasy. Attractive women (I have an attractive women fetish)
If you're interested in that sort of thing, please check it out!
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/187232/chained-city
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Can fat tits save /sffg/?
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>>25476230
Mebbe yr mum's KEK
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>>25476230
That reminds me.
I need to finish Jane Carver of Waar.
A cheap knockoff, but good pulp and the MC has fat tits
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>>25476192
Yeah that Demon Child wikepedia page sounds like classic generic 90ish chosen one fantasy slop
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started reading forge of god by greg bear
i enjoy his writing, like a modern asimov, very pleasant
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>>25476264
Read Blood Music
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>>25476264
There was a decade or so when almost everything he released was great. Out of all this stuff I'd recommend Blood Music, Eon, The Forge of God, Queen of Angels, Darwin's Radio, (the last four all have sequels which vary in quality, Anvil of Stars is *wild*) and there's his short stories Tangents and Heads.
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>Make a deceitful, greedy, hook-nosed race with dark curly hair
>Call them the shemites
Did they not have subtlety back then?
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>>25476203
Gurm could take notes.
>>25476364
Well yeah, he took inspiration from history.
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>>25471778
Good specfic on posthuman futures? Yes I saw Feral Historian's video, why do you ask?
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>>25476011
The fuck are you on about anon?
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>>25476230
Only one thing that can save /sffg/ and it is a shelf of rare first edition dying earth hardcover novels.
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About to read the Draka series, what am in for? Heard that there's some dykeshit in the books.
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>>25476323
>Queen of Angels
The only book of his I have read. Solid 3/5 but no more because there are just too many concepts and viewpoint characters shoved into the book, the female MC was pretty amazing though
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>>25476701
You have to remember when it was written and how good some of his predictions were. An AI hallucinating is shockingly prescient. I also like it's overall melancholy tone.
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>>25476712
>An AI hallucinating is shockingly prescient.
Yes but also I wanted to kms during the fucking poetry sections. Should just have been about Mary and the whole Hispaniola angle, because it would have made for a better book
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>>25476595
How about reading the 5th post in this very thread?
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Sraka
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I may have been too harsh on 40k fags...
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>>25474878
There have been tonnes of this type of books written but you don't know them because they haven't been translated into English.
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>>25476364
WW2 and broadcast TV really did a number on people. Used to be they would give you a copy of The Protocols with a new car and it went more or less without comment.
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>>25471778

I always thought "Doctor Who" was shit for fags and women. However, I’m apparently a bit bi-curious, because I watched the last two seasons—the ones with negroqueer one. It was a fascinating journey through the showrunner’s rotting, faggot brain and a really interesting lesson on modern sci-fi (just how faggy and shit it is). I even started watching the older series, and then, as a literature lover, the books too.


I read the first one last year - pice related - and have now started the second. I have to say, it’s better than I expected (admittedly, my initial expectations were really low, since I’d previously read *Star Wars* and *Warhammer* novels—the latter were slightly better, though the newest ones are absolute garbage).

The story is set in 1920s London, within the community of Russian émigrés. Essentially, there are at least two interesting concepts here. The first is a race of mechanoids that do not understand biology; consequently, they build robots using available Earth technology—specifically gears (hence the title). They are led by a woman wearing a white theatrical mask. She is very beautiful, yet—aside from her face—she is an alien; although these aliens were clever, they were unable to perfectly replicate a human face. A second idea involves a prisoner-guard dynamic. The prisoner is a prince from a land no one has ever heard of, believing his guard is holding him captive on behalf of a hostile nation. The guard, meanwhile, believes he is looking after a madman. The irony lies in the fact that ||the prisoner is right—he is a prince, albeit an extraterrestrial one—while the guard is a machine that is unaware of this fact||.


Naturally, things couldn't be too good. The aforementioned themes are merely plot twists, and the second half of the book consists of the kind of battle against a villain typical of this series. Still, two interesting ideas in a genre notorious for a lack of originality and imagination—science fiction—is a solid result.
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>>25476892
Clockwise Man was a good Who novel. Ninth Doctor is a good one too. I've read a shitload of the nuWho novels.
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>>25476901

Which ones were the best? Which ones should be avoided? Did you also read the Old Who novels—the ones where he had sex with Bernice?
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>>25476904
I've read all these, and reread some. The Ninth Doctor books are typically good. The only one I rated was the hard-ish sci-fi with Capaldi (12th Doctor) about them finding and exploring this hidden planet in the middle of a galactic void IIRC. There are some stories with the 10th/11th Doctors that are mostly marketed toward kids but they're shorter length and packed as two stories as one--I found those tend to cut out a lot of filler (imagine them as half-length episodes) and they were enjoyable reads. I haven't read much of Seventh or Eighth Doctors at all.
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>>25476203
how the fuck does he do it?
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>>25476836
>Repentia
this is Tolkien level of lazyness
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>>25476050
Red Rising (book one) is awful. Iron Gold and Dark Age are the best books in the series. Light Bringer is ass. Lysander is the only respectable character in the series.
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>>25476203
>Garrett PI is apparently also getting a new release at some point.
Garrett could use a decent epilogue after the anime episode. Soldiers Live already pretty much is that for Black Company. Idk if he's going to end up posthumously shitting on the series like Asimov did with Foundation.

>>25476919
demons in the head
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>>25474878
Alright I'll do it
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>>25476915

Thanks. That’s encouraging!

I see you haven't read the latest ones yet; the next one in my reader is *Ruby Red*—a story written by a lesbian for another lesbian (who is now a man) about the characters' struggle amidst the "barbaric conflict between the armies of Estonia and Novgorod on the frozen surface of Lake Peipus." (admittedly, I always thought it was a battle between Alexander and the Livonian Order, but the BBC has done stranger things with history). A part of me just really wants to read it.
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>>25476925
Leave my ASMRfu alone, this shit isn't her fault.
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>>25476946
I intentionally never read anything after 12th. 9th and 12th books were probably my faves. 11th as a doctor is fine but Amy and Rory get in the way too much. And there's almost nothing with him and Clara. I didn't care for female doctor and I sure as shit don't care for nigga doctor. They're like bootleg action figures at this point.

Also pic related if you're curious. Nearly nobody on /tv/ has read any of the actual books.
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>>25476954
Shut up Judy, you killed /who/.
Sorry.
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>>25476954
I'm curious, a bit, but the world of Big Finish audios is way more convoluted than novels (and novels have licensed fanfic-publisher with, for example, full novel series of Brigadier Lethbridge-Stewart!). However, I might try. This AI adaptation was nice:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLQMK2ciZ_8
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>>25476595
I'm 230 pages in, it's the kind of "dyke" shit that a pervy old man would write because he likes lesbo porn, not the kind that we've become acquainted with over the last twenty five years or so. It's good, good combat scenes, occasionally comfy, I like it.
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>>25477018
>the kind of "dyke" shit that a pervy old man would write because he likes lesbo porn
The absolute state of America.
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>>25477025
You mean "that's bad" because somebody is lusting for lesbos or because someone is judgemental about lusting for lesbos?
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>>25477042
I assume that it's that he doesn't believe any LGBT content should ever be included in any way ever .
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>>25477060
I wish actual dykes wrote more scifi
It's usually pretty mediocre because it's a tiny pool of writers all things considered, but generally they're pretty good at depicting chicks fucking each other
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>>25477083
I've read a good bit of that.
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I've seen ads for tabletop roleplaying games in science fiction pulp magazines. And trpgs seem to often be science fiction or fantasy related. One science fiction bookstore in my city also sells trpgs and other games. I also saw a guy reading a rulebook like a novel. What are your thoughts? Can these books be read as novels? Is there an overlap between reading science fiction/fantasy and playing trpgs? I've never played any, and I've never read much of a rulebook. Here's one I found. There are many others on archive.org

https://archive.org/details/bwb_Y0-AGF-835
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>>25477083
Give us names!
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>>25477083
Do you only read authors that personally experienced what they write about

That would rule out all sci-fi
But I am guessing you only care as far as the smut goes
Masturbation is not a hobby you know
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>>25477105
nta
>Masturbation is not a hobby you know
Not for you. For me, it very much is. It's a hobby that I may engage in multiple times a day, with or without accompanying material.
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>>25477025
>Ummm... Americans
Obsessed.
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>Not for you. For me, it very much is. It's a hobby that I may engage in multiple times a day, with or without accompanying material.
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>>25477112
Damn son, you triggered some newfag.
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>>25477083
If anything we have TOO MANY dykes writing scifi these days.
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>>25477112
Grim.
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>>25476595
You better not be pagespammer I swear to God...
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>>25474967
>>25475006
>>25475030
>>25475074
>>25477120
>>25477128
Kill all shartyfags
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>>25477131
pagespammer would never use the word dyke
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>>25477131
Draka-anon is another guy. Pagespammer is Bakkerfag, probably the one who got triggered and posted an edit of the same theme twice in a row.
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>>25477143
You just replied to Draka anon. I'm him. I just don't want pagebitch ruining it for me.
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>>25476925
>Tolkien
>Lazy
I wish there was a way to automatically detect and permaban redditors.
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>>25477158
Touche. I don't see it being popular enough for him to read.
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>>25477165
Fair point, but you never know.
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The woman with you has been here before.
Do not trust her. Trudo says the man is
a torturer. You are my mother come again.
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>>25477173
Sir, this is the scifi fantasy thread, not the write your thoughts thread.
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>>25476364
I heard that he thought he had a micropenis.
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>>25476203
>Garrett PI is apparently also getting a new release at some point.
THE FUCK? It's almost 15 ears since the last novel.
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>>25477236
FIFTEEN WHOLE EARS!?! OMG!!! I JUST HAVE THE TWO!
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>>25477105
No, but actual dykes are still better at writing dyke stuff
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I'm still not sure on what to read next. Things have gotten so dire my current two options are likely feminist authors. But the problem with feminist authors is that almost as much as anime, despite feigning greater intelligence by a basic greater knowledge of technicalities of history and culture, they tend to write in such a way like anime, where every element of the story and characters is contrived to confirm their bias.

Now that I think about it, its possible Ada Palmer was exactly like this. Especially with the 5 good emperors meme. But that story took so long to get to its point that I cant even really say what bias it was trying to affirm. I probably had a better idea when I was reading it, but I dont get the point of the magical child and the god trapped in a human body dude, I honestly forgot both of their names by now
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>>25477266
Might I suggest suicide? I already told you to read Ringworld.



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