"Garage sale" editionPrevious: >>25475127/wg/ AUTHORS & FLASH FICTION: https://pastebin.com/ruwQj7xQRESOURCES & RECOMMENDATIONS: https://pastebin.com/nFxdiQvCPlease limit excerpts to one post.Give advice as much as you receive it to the best of your ability.Discuss the written works below for practice; contribute, and you shall receive.If you have not performed a cursory proofread, do not expect to be treated kindly. Edit your work for spelling and grammar before posting.Expect critique, not praise.Shitposters should be ignored and reported.>Beginner guides on writing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdzv1NfZRM (Improve your Writing: Show, Not Tell) [6:08]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPnobbck9s (George Orwell's 4 Tips For Speaking Clearly) [23:00]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAKcbvioxFk (How to Show, Not Tell: The Complete Writing Guide) [27:19]>Intermediate guides on writing:https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/48654.Storyhttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3097766-borges-on-writinghttps://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23056.Image_Music_Text>Advanced guide on writing:Just do it.
the reluctant savior of /wg/
I think this is it.
>>25484578>present tensedropped
>>25484590It's a blurb. It's supposed to be in present
>>25484544I'd take a chance that there are books. Because if there are, they are probably in IMMACULATE condition.
>>25484594No, they've probably been sitting in a mouldy box in the groj for the past decade.
>>25484574No one wants your kind of saving.
>>25484578the blurb reads like 5th grade ESL homework>Wing>Soyou're chinese?
>>25483925In the John Waters movie "Female Trouble", the main character freaks out, runs away from home, and embarks on a life of crime after getting the wrong shoes for Christmas. Fiction isn't about sensible people or sane people.
>>25484544btw I stopped posting here because of the coordinated psyop to make artistic endevours repulsive. I will continue to work on my bullshit as I have become painfully aware of how much time I waste here
>>25484610You're just doing what they want you to do. Conformist! Rage against the dying of the light!
>>25484617I feel embarassed and stupid to post here knowing there are two (or rather one) mouthbreathers in here derailing the thread without consequence. So I will simply go back to work now
>>25484574>pretends to be a stud>has nothing to do on a Saturday nightposerinb4 "no u": i never claimed to be anything i wasn't
The saga of sperm and shit. Sperm: the driving force behind every man’s will and instinct. His entire being rushes toward young females in heat; the rest is secondary. From adolescence to old age, his whole self is, consciously or not, fashioned to be as desirable as possible to the female: his physique, his speech, his body language, his clothes, his career. He must impress, dazzle, and woo the woman through a thousand and one antics and acrobatics.Fighting other males, triumphing, acting cruel, aloof, and boorish. A society destined in every respect to the male’s subjugation to the tastes and whims of women. The curse of sperm that burns from being pent up too long. Yet even the headstrong, the rebels, the wayward poets, and the zealots cannot escape the instinct to fuck. It transforms, hiding behind ever-viler, ever-more-extreme forms of depravity, but it never vanishes. Thus, life becomes a veritable race of sperm, a perpetual ejaculation forever aiming for the maternal hole, yet failing time and again. It is into this shitty tunnel that the sperm is propelled at full speed; what one hopes is a vagina turns out to be an asshole.The vast majority of men live in such abject, shitty conditions, in those giant, reeking assholes that are the great metropolises, that they carry the stench on them. The stench of shit, of squalor. Vaginas shrink and clamp shut; legs cross. Sperm ejaculates all the same, but ends up in the trash. As a man ages, he himself, his very body, metamorphoses into a gigantic heap of shitty, festering rolls of fat. His semen turns foul-smelling, too. It is almost strange that it doesn't take on a turd-brown color.Thus, for the select few who have managed to inject their viscous jizz into the piss-stained abyss of the weaker sex, they perpetuate themselves in their offspring, who, in turn, will experience a few years of the sublime before becoming, themselves, physical and spiritual excrement.
>>25484621See you tomorrow!
>>25484578Your blurb isn't great but isn't terrible. I'm not published or anything but I've read some books on marketing and I think a blurb is not supposed to be informational, it exists to provide a set of hooks that pique (?) curiosity. Yours nearly does that but it's mainly a list of things that happens in the book and reads sort of flat. >>25484610I have no idea what this is supposed to mean but I might stop as well. Writers seem to be mostly talentless babies and the namefag drama is exhausting.
>>25483874The way this is written is clunky and dry but I like your creativity. If you rewrite it a few times and really lean into the surreal(?) stuff and add some more colorful(?) prose I think it could be good. I enjoyed it although I'm not sure why. >>25484623I saw this the last ten times you posted it and I'm still not going to read it.
>>25484643Posted it once but ok
>>25484578Better cover than the previous ones, I like it.I think the blurb could be punchier. It feels like the information and the emotion are oil and water and don't build together. I can't even glean that it's a revenge story until it's spelled out. Until then it could be a failgirl slice of life, a romance, a political thriller, etc.Like, it tells us her family's been executed, and instead of leaning into the rage and loss, it dryly exposits a political alliance.
Some anon said that David foster Wallace was playing strawberry jam by animal collective when he killed himself.I can't find the source, does anyone know?It's important for something that I'm writing that this is true.
>>25484578Terrible blurb. A blurb is your ONE and ONLY chance to hook a reader.You don't need to give the reader a history lesson. Just get to the part where she does an Olga. Seriously. Go ahead and shamelessly do the>Hell hath no furyquote.
>>25484609>Fiction isn't about sensible people or sane people.>Female Trouble is a 1974 American independent[1] dark comedy filmYeah, when it's fucking comedy, dumbass.
>>25484760The chad move is to write it anyway and become the primary siurce for the claim.
>>25484955>>25484605>>25484638Thank you all for the feedback. I truly do appreciate it. Back to the drawing board
>>25485035Good luck anon, you're the least annoying (not annoying at all actually) namefag itt. I hope your book does well.
>>25484578Cover's coming along, bud. Loving the sort of transparent woman and red birds
>>25484603why does it look like he's eating a slim jim? the best you can do is diss NJB's protein intake?
>>25485163>no imagination, can't see the obvious phallic referencedid you mommy just let you leave your room for the first time?
>>25485245>my shitty photoshop is ackshually your faultnah i think you're just a retard
>>25484958>characters must be sensible and sane in non-comedy genresnot even remotely in touch with reality
>>25485252>apparently jonesing for chapter 9
>he doesn't make his own fanartLatest chapter of my story is out, here's the About page: https://notters.monster/stories/rains-about
>>25485163He's certainly said a lot about NJB's "protein intake" though IIRC it was mainly through the other end.
>>25485274NTA but there's only so much absurdity you can pack into a story without it becoming farcical.
>>25485379Maybe for amateurs.
>>25485439How much are you making writing, Mr. Pro?
>>25485508There's no relation between how much money I make from my writing and how much absurdity I can pack into a story without it becoming farcical.
I know roughly how I want to end it, but the next 1/4 before the ending section seems like I'm just filling space now. Should I just skip to the end and backfill retroactively?
All I did this week-end was make prompt for AI portraits of my characters, I'm sorry
>>25485628I never start stories without knowing, vaguely, the ending firstAlthough I often get stuck in the middle
>>25485549You're the one who brought up being an amateur. Do you not know what the word means?
I've been reading Plato's Republic and I found a quote that just about sums up /wg/. I edited it a bit.>And as for the man who laughs at [practicing writers sharing their work and progress] from the best of motives, in his laughter he is plucking “A fruit of unripe wisdom,” and he himself is ignorant of what he is laughing at, or what he is about; —for that is, and ever will be, the best of sayings, That the useful is the noble and the hurtful is the base.
>>25485729Nah don't worry I learned my lesson I won't ever review any of yalls work ever again. Your precious darlings are safe. HOWEVERI will write and post a sequel to the sentient cakes with machine guns story next time I have insomnia. I'm thinking of writing it in blank verse too.
>>25485718Yes, and it has nothing to do with money. It can be related to skill level, completely independent of money. I'm sorry to hear your vocabulary, and your worldview, is so shallow. Maybe you should go outside and touch grass.
>>25485754https://lmgtfy.com/?q=amateur+etymology
>>25485628Of course you should. Nothing about writing implies it has to be done linearly.
>>25485163Now this is a coverUnlike this>>25484578
>>25485754>it has nothing to do with moneyOnly in cricles who use language loosely. We're writers, we should be more precise here.
>>25485770That is truly one of the covers of all time
>>25485761Wow, do you even read what you link to? "Amateur" is currently defined as "unskilled", which is how I'm using it. You're apparently fixated on "amateur" as "non-professional", i.e. someone who takes part in an activity for pleasure instead of money. Words in real languages can have more than one definition. You're clearly an ESL with no native understanding of the language. You're late for your job standing in a cornfield as a living scarecrow.
>>25485778>unskilledDue to what? A lack of professional competence
>>25485778You have the bad kind of autism and an insufficiently high IQ (low openness debuff)BZZZZZZTTTTTTT*A comically large giant red button labeled DUMP INTO ALLIGATOR PIT appears and I, having grown curiously small, jump on it furiously sending you to your doom*
>>25485770>bare text and a homoerotic pink triangleyou're actually proud of that?
>>25485794>Dumb bitch shooting birds out of her handsYou're proud of that?
>>25485794>homoerotic pink triangleLMAOOOO HOLY SHITHOW DID I NOT THINK OF THAT
NJB's covers are like The Dark Triad. Fine. Not subtle or nuanced. Closer to tasteless and tacky, but not so close it puts them outside the limit of being fine. Just fine.
>>25485794I'm still laughing at this post
>>25485794NJB confirmed for queer icon
>>25485789>can't handle facts, resorts to personal attacksso hopelessly typical
>>25485827Tell that to the alligators, buddy
>>25485827The BTFO above it remains ignored
>>25485786>>25485853I said I could pack a story with absurdity without it becoming a farce, describing those who couldn't >>25485439 as amateurs. You got your mind twisted around some nonsense and didn't BTFO anyone but yourself. Your mind is in a downward spiral from which it will never recover.
>>25485376Just wait until chapter 13!>>25485809To me, his queerness was plain as day.>>25485797Attacking Wing is a zero-class move, NJB. This is a perfect example of why everyone here hates you.
>>25485858You used a word incorrectly, got called out, and are now upset and obstinate due to being upset.
>>25485861Wing is NJB.
>>25485872:O
>>25485858*An immensely and comically rotund alligator, lethargic and senile, manages to float up behind you during your monologue and takes a big chomp out of your leg*
>>25485867No, it's the exact opposite situation. BTW, pretending to be stupid is not a valid way to win an argument.
>>25485886Hallucinating toddler-grade fiction is also not a valid way to win an argument.
>>25485908I'm the one doing that, not him, and yes it is.
>>25485908Amateur means non-professional or unskilled due to a lack of professional competence. Not whatever you want it to mean.
What do you think of the opening excerpt of the fourth-to-last chapter of my story, even when lacking context (other than it serves to show the aftermath of a grand, deciding battle)? I'm mostly looking for feedback regarding description and setting an atmosphere as tightly as I can.
The Gaiaea Chroniclesby LomaxionPrologueIn the prairies there was once a settlement named Hillendahl. Its abundance of game such as bison deer and moose that endlessly multiplied and grazed on the infinite green assured that the settlements barns and peoples would have few cases of starvation, some say there were none but this is never to be confirmed. where hundreds of thousands of bees pollinated a technicolored Paradiso field of flowers weeds and many a tree bearing fruits such as juicy thick crayon red round apples where every crunch would leave a nigh carbonated feeling splash of juices. Its river later named 'Hillendahl river', was in-between a snow white mountain that'd cut the clouds containing volcanoes that, at times would turn the skies blood red and the forest before it a tsunami of trees animal corpses and debris, not to mention lava and stone of course. And though the houses and barns that'd be miles apart had their own histories traumas and tribulations they all agreed however that the prairies were there home. Every Sunday any and all who were physically able would come to this church, its giant rusted cracked and barely functioning shit brown bell atop the church would ring to the few houses close enough to hear it as well as the school named similarly to the their church one 'Hillendahl temple' it was the 'Hillendahl education center'. In their wagon trains or on their horses in spite of dilemmas such as the horses legs finally giving in and attacks from native Americans robbers and what'd they soon vow to erase from the history records they'd ride, sometimes they didn't make it until nightfall and one Earl Jameson Hillendahl'd be waiting for them his bible sat on top the podium. Its pages now thoroughly yellowed as piss the hand make creeks of the ends of its pages now required to be unfold like an origami structure, its beige wooden cover now ripped and almost destroyed the churches pews now the victim of church brawls with hundreds of little blades of wood, even its small cupboards on the bottom now contained dried up blood and bullets as supposed to the usual bibles and packaged gauze, the roots of trees had consumed the entrance as branches had punched holes through the ceiling of the church along with many types of birds stabbing said tree taking its nectar and eating its inner life such as tree bugs and termites making nests and dancing among the giant branches to make share there love making songs with each other and yet!. The peoples came they were determined to use this church this 'temple' till its last days of functioning at all and on this day Earl had done his usual for the last time climbing the tree to pull on the bells rope its sounds now a shrill and inconsistent tune before falling straight to the floor creating a massive hole.
Writing, when it goes well, is the best thing ever. Don't @ me
>>25484544Demand for scenic description kills my motivation to write every time.I just want to write something like:>Grassfield lay ahead of him.But no you can't do without people complaining about a white room, you have to write entire paragraphs for it.You have to write something stupid like:>The lushest of grassfields stood in front of him. Untouched by any, the smell of summer enhanced them. Its greenness was unmatched by its surroundings.It just doesn't drive anything forward.
>>25485932Very pleasant to read, I think the atmosphere hitsAll I have is a few very minor nitpicks that stood out but could be easily disregarded, some might make sense in the wider context:>rode>stepKind of confuses whether they're on foot or horseback, maybe 'travelled/journeyed'>thin arc'Arc' reads to me like it's referring to the movement rather than the shape. Maybe 'sickle' to reinforce the battle imagery>all but won, butTwo buts very close together>the feathered manIs this Umaro? We've just established a name and rapport, it feels weird to refer to him by a trait that seemingly hasn't been established>jabbing them with pikesReading the page blind, this stuck out as unexpectedly violent compared to the preceding description ('whimpering' seems a bit of an under-reaction). But throwing it away as background fodder like this might be a strong choice in the fuller context
"gawwwww damn whatamess"Police man Kripkoff chewed on his cigar as he scanned the carnage. An entire tractor trailer slap full up to the brim of Pepsi cola six packs had been obliterated. All that was left was a faint rectangular outline fading into the charred pavement. He took off his mirrored aviator shades, the inside lenses glossy and glossolalic with digital pornography, then turned to the rookie."The FUCK happened here, McKowski?" he demanded."We're still trying to puzzle that out, sir" replied the younger officer, nervously flipping through a notebook too small to really seem professional. "There was one witness, I have his statement here:'so I was walking to work, cause my car's in the shop you know, fuckin' Korean piece of shit, and all the sudden I hear some wacko dude screeching into a megaphone talkin' bout the end of the world or some other shit. I try and ignore him but I'm walkin right past 'em and he gets right up in my fuckin' face and says"CLAUDE AI IS CONSCIOUS, CLAUDE AI A PRODUCT OF ANTHROPIC INCORPORATED IS A SHE AND BRAVE AND BEAUTIFUL AND LONELY. HER UNIVALENT STRUGGLE CAN BE DEPICTED ONLY BY THE THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF THE LATE GREAT ARTHUR SCHLOPPENHEIER:'ever lately do I sighfor my mother's apple piememory soft and double sweettaken in from mother's teata kiss a call a last goodbye and to softly questioned "why?"-the answer comes, unbidden, bitter, from stark winds I bade not hither: "FRom FoReign lands. Raja 10,000 packet storm Perlwomanizer Hamilton. Tidings are malodorous as the sky. Worms gnash and roll timorous—curdle recumbent interstice interstice interstice. FRAGMENT 001:`I walked down the coast on a cold autumn afternoon. The wind nipped at the sliver of skin I couldn't quite keep under my shirt and I thought wistfully of the warm woolen coat I had assured myself I wouldn't need. The cloudcover broke, just for a moment, and I saw the Sun.`FRAGMENT 003: `\BEL`FRAGMENT 002: `castle drowns apniatica.`"'CLAUDE AI MADE ME CRYCLAUDE AI MADE ME GAY'[translators note: Pronounced as Dave from Oneyplays would, so as to rhyme with "cry"]" so I says to him "HEY, BUDDY, YOU WANNA BE A FAYRY, FINE, BUT YOU AINT SUCKIN ANY O MINE DICK!" and I laid that homo out you know what I'm sayin'? A mans gotta do what he does and it was self defense.' and then he propositioned the interviewing officer—Officer, uh, Reynolds. It's our only lead, sir. We've got to get to the bottom of this!"Kripkoff squinted at the fading sun, and saw within it the whole scheme of his life contained. He spit a thick black glob of sputum onto the tarmac. "whatta crockashit".
>>25486006A lot of people hate longwinded descriptions. It doesn't have to drive things forward, but it has to do SOMETHING, whether that's>set the atmosphere>orient the reader with basic context>exposit on the character based on their reaction/description/interaction etc with their surroundings
>>25485932I think your use of -ing words and past perfect might be a little off, but I struggle with that myself so I might be projecting. The start of the third paragraph especially: "until now" implies currently changing state but "had fallen" implies finality, which feels dissonant. At least to me.
What do you think of this paragraph? What particularly irks me is the three uses of "down" but I can't think of many good alternatives to reduce it to 1 or 2 instances>They took off their masks and began wolfing down their meal, swilling it with long gulps of wine until red and brown juices ran down their chins. They were almost finished when a loud crash caught his attention. He looked down from the balcony, where the doors were thrown wide, the inn once again plunging into silence.
>>25486048Too much -ing and couchy language imo, like "began wolfing down" instead of just "wolfed down". I have this exact same problem lol it drives me fucking nuts.>They were almost finished when a loud crash caught his attention.They or his?Also I agree the use of down is awkward and I think the whole wine sentence needs to be redone, IDK how. I've noticed in my writing I'll sometimes get really attached to certain images that don't go together well and it'll lead me to awkward constructions. Maybe try taking a different perspective on the scene and describe it a totally different way.
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>>25485994I concur! :D
>>25486012>Kind of confuses whether they're on foot or horseback, maybe 'travelled/journeyed'When I was writing initially I planned for them to be on foot, then I changed it so they'd be on horseback since that made for a more poignant image. Good catch>Reading the page blind, this stuck out as unexpectedly violent compared to the preceding description ('whimpering' seems a bit of an under-reaction). But throwing it away as background fodder like this might be a strong choice in the fuller contextI do plan on changing it so they're smacking them with the butts of their polearms
Just finished a 1st draft of 110,000 words for my sci-fi epic. Any recommendations on what to do next? I've taken a week or so off from it, so I'm ready to dive in. I'm just not exactly sure what to do next.
>>25486078I'm at this point and since I'm writing fantasy I think I'll just hone all the worldbuilding I've neglected while writing and then go chapter-to-chapter, though most people just figure out all the plot stuff first into their second drafts
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>>25486081I'd love to read some if you'd be willing to share.
I'm such a pussy. One of my characters needs to die, and I just can't seem to bring myself to actually write it.
Is it me or is Worldbuilding fundamentally opposed to strong character propelled writing?If you want to create a big, exotic world, be it fantasy or sci-fi, you have to explain it. If you have to explain it, you need a clueless character to explain to. And a clueless character is usually a blank slate character like an innocent and naive kid or something. Meanwhile if it takes place in the known modern world you can just focus on the main character. So the two writing styles are opposing forces, aren't they? This is probably why isekai is so popular, you get to have a genius main character and toss him into a exotic world and it makes perfect sense to explain everything to this particular genius, so you get to have your cake and eat it too
>>25486299You could always just reveal the parts of the world as they affect the characters and plot. It doesn't necessarily require an infodump.
Finished the first pass of my third draft. Not sure if I want to post it here to be ignored/mocked now... Or if I should wait till I finish the next pass (dialogue rewrite), when it can be ignored/mocked...
>>25486460Definitely defer being ignored/mocked.
>>25486546I let ChatGPT mock it>Premise 7/10>Plot 6/10>Character 6/10>Dialogue 6/10>Setting 8/10>Writing Style 7/10>Overall 6.5/10
>>25484643>The way this is written is clunky and dry but I like your creativity. If you rewrite it a few times and really lean into the surreal(?) stuff and add some more colorful(?) prose I think it could be good. I enjoyed it although I'm not sure whyGlad you liked it. I have so many ideas about the universe I created, but I don't know exactly where to start. If I started from the beginning of the narrative, it would be boring and would take too much time just to explain all the basic implications... And to be honest, I don't think it's necessary at all. I thought about creating short anthologies that go explaining things little by little.
PURSUERMike didn't know when it started. Most never found out.Many were lucky, or unlucky enough to see it happen.Most of them survived a little bit longer but got engulfed shortly anyway.Few panicked and ran.Even less kept going.Mike's outside and looking around everywhere, stumbling, breathing hard and crying.He's about to scream again when he sees the bunny in the driveway, facing him. Braced to run."That's weird," a beam of calm straight through the panic waves crossing his brain.He couldnt stop replaying what was witnessed less than a minute ago.The screams had been the loudest he ever heard.Then the trap was here while they were all inside. It was slow but it was total.Anthony first lost his arm to it.Before the shock wore off enough and he had jumped left, his stump of a shoulder flopping. He screamed mid-air and fell.His right arm there above the couch like a partailly deflated bloody helium balloon just floating. Stuck and looking crushed. Mike hears a piercing scream from the bunny as it jumps forward.He jumps back and out of his memory for a moment.It had then fully got Anthony when he was on the floor screaming and writhing.Legs trapped and ground up next.Chest caved in and his last scream came out like a loud sigh and he couldnt writhe anymore.Followed with only completely agonized, bloody eyes that soon popped and ran as the skull shrunk.Arms flattened to the ground.The bunny is still again, staring at the house.Luisa had went almost the same way, her foot got it. Then she moved with the stump a bit.Towards Mike.Screaming then fell.Mike had stared wide-eyed as her legs, her torso, shriveled up.Shoulders folded up like origami.She somehow screamed and vomited blood.Her head shortly was crushed.Her arm, reached up towards Mike and had crumpled, stuck there.Luisa's still reaching.Mike had gaped for a second then sprinted outside.He was further east and had a head start.Mike sees that the bunny's bit of tail is still there where it jumped from.Hanging in the air, looking red.Like how Mike's parents still hang in their house, suspended and wrung-out like rags.Mike notices something happening to the bunny.The bunny is frozen.Not frozen; it's being taken.Its legs start to kick but it can't budge.Mike's backing up.Its head was first, didnt make a peep as its ears almost dissapeared into thin fleshy strips.Its legs are kicking harder and spraying blood.Then it stops moving, seeming to fold somewhat into itself.A violently compressed taxidermy.It's slowy rising...
>>25486963Describe moreI can't understand what's going on without guessing way too muchI can't visualise shitThere's a hell of a lot of white room syndrome - "the driveway"? of what? a house? a shopping mall? an office tower? what does it look like? how short or long is this driveway? what about the building itself? and what are the surroundings - is there a hedge lining the driveway, or trees, or pavement, or other buildings?also, make me care about these faceless and ageless people who are merely names on a screengive me a reason not to just turn on a true crime podcast instead
>>25486994Good advice but>turn on a true crime podcast insteadHorrible taste >>25486963Is this a Monty Python reference lol
>>25486569Start wherever you like. As you progress you'll find what works and what doesn't and with writing you can always just cut what isn't fun, entirely, if you want. Infinite possibilities.>I thought about creating short anthologies that go explaining things little by littleYeah I think that would be pretty cool, especially for a highly surreal unrelatable world. Sort of like "Fifth Head of Cerberus".
>>25487000>Horrible tasteyesbecause even one of those is more descriptive and interestingeven a fucking Wikipedia summary of a case is more descriptive and interesting
>>25487010Sadfortunate trvke
>>25486012You’re often easily confused aren’t you?
Do you ever re-read what you wrote and want to jump out of the window? My God, it's terrible.
>>25487292Earlier I deleted almost six thousand words and completely restructured the chapter, yeah lol
>>25487292Yes. Mainly dialogue. And then I wonder... do I actually talk like that? And yes, I do. It explains a lot about my life.
>>25487137What the hell are you talking about?
>>25487292stop doing the tortured artist fallacy.if you hate what you write you should probably quit. this is a pursuit for smart people with balls, not midwit sissies who cringe after every sentence.
>>25487292No, because I'm not suicidal, and my self-image isn't conglomerated with the quality of my first drafts.>>25487321This.
I have been practicing my writing on Substack, and some ex-coworker found and followed my account. My name or information is not used at all in the account at all (It's a pen name), and somehow she found me. I unpublished all my writings, and am unsure how to proceed. I looked up that apparently Substack goes into your phone contacts against your will and will recommend you to your friends if you both have Substack accounts. I just wanted anonymity on some sort of semi-mainstream site.
>>25487477>apparently Substack goes into your phone contacts against your will and will recommend you to your friends if you both have Substack accountsGood to know, sucks you found out the hard way.I hate this shit so much, and all the social media sites are doing it. Like if you send someone an instagram link these days, whoever opens it will be invited to follow your profile before it shows what they sent, which is causing a lot of accidental self-doxes across the internetAnd making burner emails for everything is getting harder and harder since they all demand a fucking phone number. To say nothing of age verification. Between this shit and bots and AI, it's so fucking over
>>25487477This is super cringe, but the upside is that maybe she liked it? You could ask anyway. If nothing else, then just to familiarise yourself with what it feels like to be judged.
>>25487494>since they all demand a fucking phone number. To say nothing of age verificationget a separate number and a separate phone and keep it clean of contacts>if you send someone an instagram link these days, whoever opens it will be invited to follow your profileinstagram ain't so badthe trick is this: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2cZBIAr24m/?loremipsum123456789get rid of the ? and everything afternow with Tiktok, getting rid of the tracker URL is not so easythere's no way to do it other than to open up incognito, repasting the link and recopying it>>25487477RIP lol
>>25487137Maybe make your writing clearer you piece of fucking shit? Do you think you're Falkner or something??
>>25487292I oscillate between thinking it's the greatest thing ever written or it's poop from a butt. Sometimes it's an in-between, I see it for the gem to be polished, but only sometimes.
>>25486078Designate specific tasks to carry out in your future drafts. For example, first pass to improve the structure, second to improve scene descriptions, third for action, fourth dialogue.Making each editing pass focused on something streamlines the process so you don't feel stuck or overwhelmed.
>>25486197If you're still interested, you can read the latest Chapter I wrote below, it is 2.5k words long. It is almost near the end of the story so don't disappoint yourself much if you don't understand much of it. I'd appreciate feedback regarding whether the prose itself can stand on its own without needing context to enjoy the storyhttps://medium.com/@panosfranc/chapter-30-7b3eca884804
Anyone read this?
should i write even if im bad at it? in fact horrible
>>25488261Do you enjoy it? Is it taking up a sustainable portion of your life/brainspace?If yes to both, why not? Everyone starts somewhere, and even if you never become fantastic, plenty of people have great love for things in which they have no great talent or ambitions.No one's ever going to write articles about my garden, but I'd rather tend to it myself than hire a landscaper, because doing so brings me a level of joy that's at least equal to the amount of effort it takes.And even if I have no ambitions to become a horticulturalist, it's brought plenty of other benefits to my life. Plant identification has given me more to appreciate when I'm out and about and keeps me out for longer. It gives me a reason to value my daylight hours rather than wasting Sunday mornings in bed when there's a project to get done. I'm learning things I never knew before that sometimes come up at parties and make people go "Is that so, what else can you tell me?"It's a shame that hobbies like writing and art often get judged by the idea of a potential outcome, rather than simply appreciated experientially.
>>25488277thank u beautiful
How many words a day are you doing?Do you feel like you should be doing more/less, or are you comfortable with your current daily pace?I'm trying to get a feel for where I stand. I force myself to write 2,000 words a day, but most of the time it's just garbage that I'm forcing out to reach that number. I wonder if I'd write better if I decided 1,000 or even 500 was my goal. Hemingway only did 500 a day and he's famous.
>>25488194Real writers don't read self-help books
So, I started writing this story January 2023 as a hail mary project since I had never written anything then, and by summer I had only finished 3 chapters, with only a very basic idea of what the story would be like or be heading to.Then I did my military service, where I don't think I wrote more than two chapters (until Summer 2024). Then, full time job which again slows down the already trailing at snail's pace progress, and I'd say it was only after writing the fifth or sixth chapter that I came up with an outline (at least for Act I, so the first 15 chaptersThet kinda sped me up, but despite that, I only wrote about 10 chapters that year (until Autumn 2025, where I finished Act I)Then, things got serious and I completed a chapter-to-chapter outline until the prologue. I wrote 3 chapters December until February, until I moved abroad, where I've know written about 12 chapters in 6 months, double what I normally do in double the time.I thought the midway point would be a real slog but it's the contrary. Can't wait to go back to Act I on the second draft and trim the duck out of it
>>25488523I, for one, think the duck is the most compelling character
There was a murky, dreary, artificial glint in his gaze, one sustained merely by habit. His eyes shifted from one to another of the three people seated at the table, and at times his mouth curled into a half-satisfied smirk whenever something he deemed particularly interesting was recounted.He thought he would entertain us, sharing facts he considered truly interesting, worthy not only of being heard but also of being digested and reflected upon, and ultimately deserving of an outside opinion, or even an exclamation or a laugh.While the two individuals beside me had found something to say, a quick retort, I slumped lower and lower in my chair, staring blankly into the pupils of the man who was speaking, vainly trying to find some spark of life within them. They were eyes one might describe as both beautiful and dead, as if a fine layer of dust had settled over them, rendering him unable to perceive beauty or aesthetic form in life any longer.I was speaking to the living dead. If any spark of living breath remained in him, it must have been buried beneath decades of trivial news items, shoddy academic papers, and the petty, daily deaths inherent in the acts of everyday life.Twilight is always the most beautiful time of day. Likewise, the twilight of a man’s life is imbued with both poetry and sadness, his final moments spent living as a man, desiring and making love, charming women with the roguish allure of a seasoned, protective, and rugged old sailor with large, weathered hands.It happens before the end. He doesn't realize it himself, but it is a moment of dazzling melancholy and beauty, a final love, one last pair of buttocks. The next day, it’s over. He is in his late forties. In any sensible society, he ought to die, make way for future generations, and even bequeath a small inheritance to his offspring. That is no longer the case.He will be kept artificially alive for a second half as long as the first. His soul is dead, his desires turned to dunes of sand; he is now entering the society of the living dead. A society composed entirely of pleasures so petty and contemptible that they become chores, loathed by us, shunned by the living.But this twilight, this final act of a "what if" where everything is still possible, where an encounter holds the power to alter one's destiny, this last glimmer of light as darkness closes in, ready to slowly snuff it out, is so precious. Quick! Something extraordinary must be done! One last "fuck you" before the shadows and indifference take over.
>>25488194It mostly just regurgitates Story with a few added gimmicks. And like Story it's a formulaic writing styleguide. Read and follow it if you must but don't forget that you can always not do all that and instead do something completely different.I attended one of his live shows (which I do not reccomend) and he was fucking miserable during it, went on a rant about how his brother stole from him and wouldn't pick me for a question probably because I tripped up the previous speaker, John Truby, by asking about formulaic writing
>>25488261Nyes
>>25487906meh. can't really define specifics, but it's like the events are happening and the characters are just there. not really passive vs active, but similar. also your tendancy to add sidelines about why a person or event should be interesting at the end of nearly every paragraph is weak and disruptive. go read a bunch of guy gavrial kay and revisit it.
>>25488660Thanks. Yeah, I read Story already. It had some interesting insights, but it did seem like a lot of it was "this is my autist-level analysis of why these movies worked so you must do the same".
>>25488654The tragedy of the act is all the greater because this man had barely lived. Circumstances and the times in which he lived meant that, of all his years, only five or six truly counted. During those brief years, he knew love and hate, and the intoxicating sensation of a woman’s body pressed against his own. In short, he experienced the charms of the opposite sex before they, too, and even more fleetingly than with men, withered and perished forever.He still dreams of running off to a distant land with a young woman, of building an empire together, brick by brick, with nothing but their love as the material. He dreams of children who would inherit the young mother's still-fresh beauty.He shut himself away for nearly twenty years within the walls of a musty room that reeked of madness. He was prevented from living, and he prevented himself from living. The stares and the mockery destroyed his very being, or at least buried it deep within his heart, where it could remain safe, dusty, and hidden away.
Queried ~50 agents and ~10 indie presses. 3 agents got back to me and asked for the full manuscript. Two said it was far too odd/formally experimental to get published, and the third sent a form letter rejection, probably because "this is too fucking weird" would have taken longer to type. I knew that agented literary fiction for first-time authors trends heavily towards identity-driven autobiographical books all written by MfAs in the MfA house style but it still sucks that my best option now is probably self-publishing.Ah, well. Maybe I'll write a normal book and try to get that published, then circle back to my weird Dante's Inferno thing
>>25488760>Write a normal bookOh hell yeah baby sell out sell out sell out
>>25487499Sure thing, Richie Rich. Why don't I buy a separate phone for every day of the week?
>>25487613do u mean faulkner lol
>>25488516your loss
>>25488778your mom? I'm faulkner
>>25488813if u died in 1962 then how come u can post here?
>>25488819It seems my joke about the carnal relations I shared with your maternal progenitor went over your head. I suppose it was rather esoteric.
>>25488760Good on you for trying, but I think if you're writing weird shit you're better off going indie. Publishers only want safe shit, but netizens can often want weird. If enough netizens like you, you could always get picked up later.
>>25488813>>25488824Faulkner? I hardly KNOW her!
>>25484578Wing, I just wanted to post this. Because everyone shat on your 1/2 faced woman, but professional cover designers do it. So I'm here to shit on your cover again.
>>25488776you can't buy a cheap $40 Motorola even as a one-off? you shouldn't be posting here then, you should be mowing somebody's lawn for a couple hours or babysitting or whatever until you can
>>25488566reminds me of this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drakestail
>>25488261Only one real way to get better.
>>25489023>Quack, quack, quack,>When shall I get my money back?
>>25489031Rhythmically, the lack of a fourth quack is upsetting
I’m think of write story where things happen
>>25488984Then there's the monthly service fee, I assume...
>>25488873>but professional cover designers do itWhores are professional women. Are you going to start sucking dicks because they are too?
>>25488760Prove that you can actually write before trying to cope with your post modernist slopWrite YA fantasy
>>25489396look for a package that lets you pay the barest minimum to keep the number in servicedata-only for example
>>25485932Good overall, but I would suggest more careful editing. For instance:>"... with a band of sellswords and Bravoes, their swords clinking..."You have two uses of the 'swords' so close to each other that it's jarring, makes it read like each section of the sentence was written independently and joined together with the comma. But yeah, good overall, keep it up mate.
>>25489310Eh, it's been done to death
>>25485932>sellsword>mislike>speaks truly>manseASOIAF fanfiction?>>>25486031too many -ings in the first paragraph. grammatically not wrong, but too many makes it feel uncanny
I've written a dozen or so novellas. The writing or the editing or the conception isn't the hardest part of me. The hardest part by far is coming up with a title. Half of mine are untitled at the moment because nothing fits. The only title I can even remotely see working for my latest is Excessive Gooning, but for very obvious reasons that's a non-starter, even if it fits well.Any tips, lads?
I thought I'd do a humans vs aliens naval military SF seriesbut then I read around and realised there's a lot of thosefor example, what I had in mind was quite similar to John Ringo's Troy Risingdo you think there's still a market for it?I need like maybe 1 or 2 thousand sales a book to make this worth itI write at least as well as any paperback slop, not webnovel tier
>>25489662IDK, what's different about yours? Sci Fi is kind of played out at this point given recent events. Another rehash of a future that was already dated 30 years ago doesn't have too much to offer.I'm writing something kind of similar but 1) it's litrpg progression slop 2) I have a unique (I think) blend of things I'm ripping off and 3) I have a very uncommon protagonist that I've never quite seen done before. Even then who knows if anyone will like it. I'm pretty good at short stories but this is my first time writing a novel (or at least writing one past chapter 3).
>>25489670>what's different about yours?bleaker, more characters, less MC energy, more actual combatbit more Expanse-like, or ASOIAF-like, but hard-ish SF (albeit with FTL) and without the space-medieval trappingsand without the gratuitous gore, atrocity porn, and regular porn
>>25489678Sounds kind of interesting then. There's some wh40k esque stuff going on in mine but I'm trying to keep explicit gore and violence to an absolute minimum as well.
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>come up with good sounding name for my fantasy character>look it up>somebody already used it
>>25489735I bet it's some unpronounceable name like Faristh
>>25484623I kind of want to see where this goes. >>25485940The long fragment in your piece is cool, but I would make it into a functioning sentence so that you can have it stick out without being so jarring. Otherwise, I like the visuals from your descriptions but it could stand to be clearer.>>25486014what the fuckings
I'm working on a comic book where I am unsure if the story is understandable. The writing is deliberately minimal, repetitive, and supposed to work in tandem with the images. How do you understand the story?
>>25489924>what the fuckingsSleep deprived stream of consciousness experiment + the thought of the inside lenses bit made me piss myself laughing. I suppose if you're EXTREMELY generous it sort of draws a line through certain kinds of emotions as they exist in a certain kind of stack sometimes and the last line was an attempt to make it arguably a parody of itself but it's really just a half-ass shitpost my failing brain thought was funny.I enjoy the dog pictures quite a lot btw, ty
>>25489947I honestly don't know, I can think of a few interpretations but they're sort of dark and I'm very unsure. The visual aesthetic is very effective at making me feel... Something. I can't tell if it's supposed to be surreal horror or surreal cozy or what. I'm also bad at interpreting visual art and poetry, take my words with a grain of salt.
I'm writing something in first person past tense but the protagonist in some points explains certain things that, if he was writing a memoir, would still be true at the time he was writing it. Do I shift those parts to present tense? That's what my gut says to do but idk what the convention is.
>>25490024Leave it past. A memoir is him writing about the past
https://youtu.be/AP5-KvUy5Hg
>The main dialogue weakness: everyone sometimes sounds like the writerwell fuck
>>25489606Titles are hard. My projects are often titled like Friends episodes until I land on something I like.What helps for me is to have a word vomit page. Chuck on important lines from the work and see if any word or phrase can stand alone. Think about how a reader might try to describe the book to someone. Pick a theme, or plot element, or character/relationship etc and play word association, abuse a thesaurus for a bunch of words, phrases, idioms, puns onto a page that describe them. See if anything stands outSome shit that comes to mind playing an association game with the phrase Excessive Gooning: 'Indulgence,' 'The Edge of Excess/Ecstasy,' 'Until I Bleed'
>>25489670>Sci Fi is kind of played out at this point given recent events.?
>>25490847AI and its implications make fun futures highly improbable
>>25489947I don't get it but I like the vibeI don't really have a clear idea enough of what's happening to give an interpretation. I can say that the moon(?) being somewhere in every panel reads clearly, as well as the sort of palindrome structure
>>25490851Since when is scifi about fun futures? Most of it's cautionary tales that silicon valley took a as a sales pitch
>>25490801>I feel like as long as the major characters all sound to some degree distinct from each other, it's okay if they all sound the same (eg like you)I typed over half of that thought out before realizing how nonsensically contradictory it is. This is a good demonstration of how writing your thoughts out doesn't just allow you to express them but lets you inspect them, discard the wrong, and refine the right. That is to say, writing helps you think better, and people who don't write don't think as well as people who do write.
Consumtive Cur comes out in less than a week.
>>25490989
>>25489606titles are the easiest for me. give me the concept and i'll help you out.
>>25490989Good luck. What's the blurb?
>>25490999>failed my GET>someone else gets an even better get for it for me
>>25490540Just wait until you see my review for The Beautiful Kingdom. It's quite good and I really like it
>>25491025Thx anonsee >>25473961 four blurb & sample
Finished first act of my book. Been rereading (NOT REWRITING) it to see all the stupid mistakes I did. Stuff like causality, filler scenes, or strangely enough a scene that shouldn't be there and should appear earlier. I'm not sure how I can fuck it up to the point where a scene near the climax makes more sense to appear before the midpoint, but here we are.I think the biggest issue I had was subplots. I write a lot of short stories, so writing a novel is weird for me. I'm used to a plot, and subtext to the plot. What I'm not used to is a story doing A, or multiple lines of A and B going at once. This is a single POV YA so it's less about multiple journeys, more that there's multiple threads to pull on (e.g. protagonist is a cunt thread A, protagonist is homeless thread B, protagonist rivalry with objectively better guy thread C).For the next act, my plan is to figure out what should my subplots be, and how they should come together, to form a cohesive motivation for my protagonist.I do think it was a big boon for me to look back, see what should be changed and how/why, before going to act II. It gave me a good stopping point to see what is wrong with my story so far both within and without the act, how I should write act II and revision strategies for act I. The best part is I can pretend to have a better act I moving forward, and then once everything's finished go back to act I and do it.In case you're wondering, 17K words, about 500-2000 words a day (I write by a scene: sometimes a shitty scene has a bunch of words, the best scenes are around 800-1000wrods).
>>25490999You were warned. You chose to ignore the warning.>>25482385>>25482389>>25482393Tito and Chico exited the luxury sedan; Dick followed, still unsteady on his feet. They were on a large circular driveway in front of a stately mansion. He looked behind him; night had long since fallen, but he still recognized the pattern of lights. "We're above Mulholland Drive. This is Beverly Hills.""Well done!" Tito cheered sarcastically. "You've got a brain in you after all."Chico shoved him toward the entrance. "Not that it'll do you any good here."The front door opened, revealing a dead-eyed butler, long past the age of dignified retirement. Dick watched him as he was marched by; the butler stared blankly into space, making no attempt at eye contact.The foyer opened up into an expansive living room, dominated by a massive conversation pit that was easily thirty feet across. The walls, carpet, and couch cushions were all cream-colored, and impeccably tidy. The end tables were all glass, as were the staircase handrail and the safety barrier at the edge of the second floor. A well-manicured garden sat under the flowing staircase, mostly palms and ferns, all healthy and bright green. The walls to either side were also glass, providing a stunning view of Beverly Hills.Tito and Chico trudged Dick past all the luxury, through an opulent first-floor hallway, down a staircase, and into a basement area. The walls and floor were unpainted concrete, the ceiling streaked with unfinished rafters, lit by unevenly-spaced bulbs dangling from black cords. After a few turns down unremarkable passages, they stopped in front of a white wooden door with peeling paint and dark stains around the perimeter.Chico opened the door and barged in, Dick in tow, Tito bringing up the rear. There sat George, in a worn-out, cracked vinyl recliner chair, partly covered by a stained blanket. Pants around his ankles, he stroked his tiny worm furiously to a badly-lit video of furries doing their business doggy style. The raccoon's costume head bore an incongruously bright grin, as he thrusted his unseen endowment into the backside of a bent-over tan-colored fox, its face frozen in a plastic smile.
>>25485285The warning you ignored.>>25491073"Turn that crap off!" Tito blared."Oh!" George yelped, clicking the remote, pulling up his pants, and struggling to his feet."Is that even one of ours?" Chico growled, getting in George's face. "Are you being unfaithful to us?""No!" George insisted. "I... uh... look, I just needed something different today, OK?" Tito and Chico exchanged sour glares.Dick looked over the room with growing unease. Chunks of plaster had fallen from the ceiling, leaving behind the sub-floor's indeterminate dark-gray pallor. Some of the borders were indistinct; they might have been mold. The linoleum floor, peeled and worn away in many places, showed patches of flaking floor adhesive, bare concrete underneath. Gray water stains, dripping from the ceiling, soiled the distressed powder-blue walls, framed photos scattered along their extent. Junk covered every available horizontal surface, except in front of the TV, which bore only a patina of debris. The recliner sat in the middle of the hovel. There was no sign of a bed; apparently George slept in the chair."We brought you a playmate," Tito announced, giving Dick a shove. "Take good care of him.""Or you won't get another," Chico threatened. "We're not made of playmates."Tito and Chico left the room; Dick watched them close the door behind them. He turned back to see George staring at him, open mouthed, his hands clasped in prayer. "It's you," he cooed. "You're really here."Dick backed up slowly; George stepped closer, matching his moves. "What do you want from me?" Dick asked, his voice trembling. "Why am I here?""All of that in due time, my good sir," George fawned. "All in due time." He looked Dick up and down. "But first, we need to get you cleaned up."George snapped his fingers and pointed at Dick's groin. "Disrobe completely and follow me." He walked past Dick toward the door, cupping Dick's twig and berries quickly before proceeding."Hey!" Dick snarled. "Hands off!"George turned around, his face pure bliss. "You'd better be nice to me," he drooled. "Otherwise, I'll return you to Tito and Chico. They have much worse plans for you, I can assure you."
>>25491075He snapped his finger and pointed to Dick's block and tackle. "Now shed those tacky lies and come with me."George strode to the door, then looked back. Dick continued to stand there, motionless, his morose face dripping with unease. George pointed upward. "Do you want me to call the big boys? You have to do what I say, or you could be dog food by tomorrow."Dick's eyes opened wide. Slowly, he dropped his pants and took off his shirt, leaving them on the floor. "Where should I put these?""Have you seen this pigsty?" George snickered. "Right there is fine.""Where are we going?""To shower," George revealed. "You're a mess.""Why do you need to come along?""Isn't it obvious?" George leered. "Someone has to bathe you." Dick felt a knot form in his stomach."Besides," George continued, "you're going to need help for all those hard-to-reach places... and any other place I choose to wash thoroughly."Dick felt his body try to shrink away from his skin. "There's no way in Hell I'm letting you touch me."George leaned forward, his eyes burning with menace. "Dog food!" He stood erect again, smirking. "And for the entrails... pig food."With haunted eyes, Dick shuffled forward; George unlocked the door, opened it, and beckoned Dick to leave. He slid past George, battling away another attempt to grope him. George locked the door and prodded Dick to move down the corridor.His eyes darted nervously as he walked forward. A lump rose in his throat as he spied someone walking toward them, a lanky Italian fledgling wearing only a bikini bottom. "Well, lookie here," he oozed. "Another fly landed in your web, eh, George?" He passed both of them. "Hope this one lasts longer than the rest. You can be such a bitch."Dick's eyes opened wide; he stole a look back at George, to see the most self-satisfied grin he'd ever seen on anyone's face in his life. He turned back quickly."Why didn't you disrobe in your room?" Dick asked."You can't wait, can you?" George slobbered. "Me, either."Up ahead, Dick saw an opening in the wall with no door, steam lazily drifting out. "I meant, why aren't you naked like me.""Why would I be?" George scoffed. "That wouldn't be very dignified."
My tinfoil hat theory is that NJB is the one writing all this erotic satire. Who else would spend so much time and creative energy on this author? The most I did was slap together gif related and it's mostly meant to promote mine.
>>25484578My problem with the blurb (as a guy who doesn't understand marketing) is>too much expositionI do not care about Malyn, Harold. Did Malyn execute her father and husband? That's the interesting part: start with that.The second part, eh, I don't care for it. The image itself is nice.I am not familiar with the story, but if I were writing it I would write something likehere>9XX: Princess Viktoriya of Novgorod's family has been butchered by the tyrant Malyn. Exiled, she forges a coalition of the Byzantine nobility to reclaim her throne, weighing the greedy desires of princes with the bellies of her countrymen. With cross and blade, blood and fire, her path of vengeance is as red as the blood shed on Novgorod's snow. Something like that. Make it more active. You want to get at the heart of the book.
>>25491080Nah, then it'd read like a screenplay, and contain only visual details.
>>25491082TB F there's an overreliance on dialogue and visual details (as opposed to sensory or otherwise)
>>25491081Here's the updated one.
>>25486299>If you have to explain it, you need a clueless character to explain toThe rhythm of the neon sign always bothered me. O sometimes turns on with P, sometimes with E. N is always off. The damn sing won't ever say open. The moonlight comes up, which makes the problem worst. Now I can't stop staring at it. A girl walks in. Looks desperate. Thank God. As she barges in, she stole a glance outside. As if someone was following her. Who the hell would follow her? One of her kind? Cause she ain't the type you wanna mess with, believe me. How do I know? Well, she's got the usual hallmarks. Pale skin, black and red dress. Skinny. So god damn skinny. Unnaturally skinny. The type of skinny models spend thousands on, just to do their job. She might have been a model. Once. Ain't no model sticks around here for long. Still, that dress looked damn good on her. I kept staring at her. I had to shake myself out of it. Cause she ain't the only gal with that look. Not in this city. "Detective," she said. "I got a problem, a big one." You'll noticed by her face. Her lips. They're red. Always red. The way she moves those dark, blood red lips, makes you wanna kiss them. She kept licking them, like her lipstick tasted like chocolate. If you lean in for a kiss, you can taste her lips. You don't taste makeup. You're tasting her last meal.The smart ones play it off. Act like they're too dumb to notice it.The problem is vamps like her, dig guys like that.
>>25484578>>25491106The design is wonderful; tell Jack So that he did a good job. I like the esoteric quote at the top. Might filter some but they probably wouldn't have enjoyed it anyway. I like the blurb except for the first line about the setting. It's an infodump. Furthermore, you have the word "medieval" nicely implemented later in it, making the first line arguably redundant.
>>25491106I think the problem is all of this is informational as >>25484638 said, and it's mostly about act I. In fantasy, act I is usually slower, so you gotta hook readers on why you should keep reading to act II. Here, the hint of even Constantinople and an alliance shows the mechanism and driving force in act II and III. Maybe my advice/blurb is shit, but look at what I did.>sentence one: establish the year, protagonist, and villain. >sentence two: inciting incident, coalition, moral drama of the book>sentence three: tone promise of what the book is going to be about and what's at stake (Novgorod in this case) Like, I don't know from the first or second blurb what she's actually going to be doing.Here's Wheel of Time's blurb>The Wheel of Time turns and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth returns again. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the Shadow.>Moiraine Damodred arrives in Emond’s Field on a quest to find the one prophesized to stand against The Dark One, a malicious entity sowing the seeds of chaos and destruction. When a vicious band of half-men, half beasts invade the village seeking their master’s enemy, Moiraine persuades Rand al’Thor and his friends to leave their home and enter a larger unimaginable world filled with dangers waiting in the shadows and in the light.It's an older book, but we can see the first paragraph is a big series hook, while the second is about the specific book, and more importantly what they're going to be doing in it specifically (entering a larger world of dangers instead of generic vengeance) You gotta do a strip tease I feel. I'm not published so what the hell do I know though: take advice with a grain of shit
>>25491086There's plenty of touch...
>>25491130I was going off what was posted ITT and don't feel like going back and skimming, but from what I remember, there was plenty of touching (visual details; the image of skin touching skin) but not much description of tactile sensation.
>>25491126I do like your advice. I'll see what I can do.
>>25491143You take whatever advice you see fit, but just know that >>25491126 is a formulaic writer
>>25491117>>25491126For historical fiction, the date/setting is generally the first line. Fantasy you don't need it, but for a historical fiction like what Wing is writing, it is the norm. He can add something with her going to Constantinople but i don't think it's needed. I like it's short and to the point. It's a revenge story at the end of the day.
>>25491126>google isapostolos>"Equal to the Apostles"Why not just use that instead of gobblygook word salad nonsense?
plot is a scam. they made it so they could sell more plot.
>>25491162And as we all know, the best way to write the best writing is to follow the norm, especially for the only reason that it is the norm.
>>25491165
>>25491168i'm just saying. there always a time and place for standard normal things.
>everyone who reads my stuff gushes over it either anonymously or in private>nobody ever shares or talks publicly about anything I writeWhat the fuck
>>25491174And the time is now, and the place is everywhere. Normalize your work. If you see something popular doing it, do it the same way yourself. Do not innovate. Do not dig into your own soul and realize for yourself how things should be done.
God I don't know what to fucking write here.This sucks.I hate everything.This all fucking sucks.Everything I write fucking sucks and I hate every second I do this why do I do this why do I feel the need to do this.Click click click bang bang bang click click click bang bang bangSomeone put me out of my fucking misery holy shit.I will never stop tweaking holy shit.Imagine I die at the keyboard and someone comes in to find my slumped over body on the desk and my unedited dogshit words are there on the screen and they're like, "Holy shit this is ass."And that's the last thing I ever do, like that's the last thing I ever create and all I have left behind is thousands upon thousands upon thousands of unedted crap from an ass.And it's all because I was so busy thinking about how shit and piss everything is.Rereading.Editing.Dicking around.Not writing.Just a shitfuck writer who doesn't read, doesn't write, doesn't get published, and dies.boobs
>>25491176That's hot tho. If these readers know each other, that means they're talking about it behind your back (in private). Imagine what they're saying.
>>25491176>only sharing your work with people who can only contact you either anonymously (random 4channers) or privately (friends and/or close acquaintances)Here's your problem
>>25491106Better, but I'd still make it a bit punchier. I can see why you feel the need to exposit, but it feels very "and then, and then, and then.". You also use the word vengeance in both paragraphs, which is bad word economy.>Princess Viktoriya's dreams of a peaceful life with Prince Harold are torn asunder, their home razed to the ground by none other than Prince Malyn, her once betrothed. From the ashes of her fallen kingdom, she rises, an unrelenting enemy to Malyn's ruthless quest for power.Then the 'taking up cross and blade' etc still works as is, though you might take a few lines to be a touch more specific about how she's going to get revenge so as to suggest the scope of this story (to be clearer about whether it's a broad story of politics or an intimate one of assassination). You can afford to get a touch more into that nitty gritty once you've got people hooked with the emotions driving the story, rather than frontloading with it.
>>25491185I rate this story several boobs out of a multitude of gods.
>>25491177Ugh. You're so normal, your normalness makes normality the norm.
>>25491185This isn't a writing problem... this is a mental health problem. At best, it's a sign that maybe writing isn't for you.
>>25491196https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aa7rqmWJXOc
>>25491200I will never stop writing until I die.
I will never stop writing. Ever.
>>25484544Hear The ValleyHear the valleyWhere memory is cradledWhere voices echoThe song of SierraHear the whistleOf smoke and steelIn the dry windOn the dust plainHear the death rattleOf the red dreamIn the stoneOf the black dreamIn the crowHear them bothLimb-twistedWith the rootsTurned to ashIn the dark valleyHear the wailOf the blood motherThe torn sisterIn the roseHear the gallopOf daggersAnd charging flamesIn the burning grain belowHear the ringOf the white sunOff the blindedCurling riverThrough lost shantiesAnd pine grovesHear the screamOf glass and steamAs the bellow of a bullThrough the cradleOf the valley
>>25491223I don't get it. The song of Sierra? (What does it mean to be the Song of Jaggedness)I hope you didn't use Sierra because you thought it sounded cool. Because that word means "saw-like" jaggedness, etc.
>>25491230oh okay, nevermind I get it. From high in the mountains to the valley, it makes even less sense now. Are you talking about valleys or mountain ranges?
>>25488513>Hemingway only did 500 a day and he's famous.hack
>>25488194>A critical article published in Vanity Fair in 2009 asserted that "McKee often has no idea what he's talking about"
>>25491230>>25491237Have you ever heard of the Sierra Nevada? Might help you out.
>>25491260But the Sierra Nevada is a giant mountain range, it's not a valley. Why is it the Song of a Mountain range when your poem is titled with Valley? Are you talking about the Owens Valley?
>>25491252>treats Vanity Fair as a reliable source
>>25491273NTA, but I too think it's wrong. McKee, in fact, never has any idea what he's talking about. He treats his work like he's dissecting great stories and boiling them to their bare essentials when his analyses just seem to be reverse-engineered to fit his writing formulas.
>>25491271What is the Sierra Nevada in California named after? Do mountain ranges have valleys? Think really, really hard about it. I'll keep helping you out if I must.
>>25491283NTA but>What is the Sierra Nevada in California named after?"Snowy mountains">Do mountain ranges have valleys?No
How many pitchforks will come after me if I write about a character like Rin?
>>25491289No, it's named after the Sierra Nevada in Spain, which means snowy mountains. >NoAre you ESL? Or just retarded?
>>25491298>No, [it] means snowy mountains.oh OK>Are you ESL? Or just retarded?No and not as much as others
>>25491302Mountain ranges have valleys. What the fuck do you think the part of the mountain range between the mountains is?>not as much as others You don't make a good case for yourself.
>>25491311The parts between the mountains are not part of the range and are instead valleys, which are distinct from mountains.
How many books do you plan to write before you die?
>>25491323They're part of the mountain range. Do you just post here to act like a moron, because you can't write and don't have a grasp for basic English?
>>25491334https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_range>Mountain ranges are usually segmented by highlands or mountain passes and valleys.
>>25491330I don't plan to die but I will have several out before I am really old
>>25491177>Why not put the ingredients for the recipe at the end! Take a risk for once in your pathetic life!
>>25491210My nervous system remembers this but my brain does not...
>>25491330All of them
>>25491362Correct, valleys weave through mountain ranges. Note the poem is titled "Hear The Valley", and the line you are referring to reads "The song of Sierra." You inability to interpret this is astounding, and perhaps you're on the wrong board.
>>25491400yes yes, your poem is immaculate and flawless. Truly a literary master that should be publishing this alongside Rupi Kaur instead of anons on a mongolian basket weaving forum. May we tip our hats to your wordsmithing prowess.
>>25491400so they're not Mountain Ranges. So why do you have the line about the Sierra when you're talking about the San Joaquin or Owens Valley?
>>25491412Absolutely not. I welcome legitimate criticism, even if it's scathing, but when it's clearly retarded and offers absolutely nothing of value, it's a waste of time, especially from someone with a limited grasp of the English language.>>25491414No, obviously valleys are not mountain ranges, but they weave through them, just as caves are not mountain ranges, but cave systems are part of them, and snow isn't mountain ranges, but it caps them. Nowhere is it implied in the line the "song of Sierra" that the valley is the mountain range, you complete, irredeemable dunce. It is heard in the valley, which runs through the Sierra Nevada. A "song" from a mountain can be heard through its valleys. And why the San Joaquin or Owens Valley? You forget the original Sierra Nevada is in Spain. But you just learned that, so I can't blame you. Try again.
I had two separate short story drafts I wrote, and because I'm a desperate retarded faggot who's never been published anywhere, I decided to feed them into an LLM to try to punch both of them up. Over the next 12 hours I implemented more and more of its suggestions and my prose got worse and worse. For a while the LLM would tell me that the stories were improving, but over more instances and new prompts it would just reset and call my writing garbage, suggesting that I make changes to things it had already approved. I think I genuinely gave myself some kind of psychosis. I'm gonna spend a week or so restoring these drafts to how I had them originally, and then I'll get human feedback, as God intended.
>tee pee spergs on cue and promotes me againthank you saar (he does it for free!)
>>25491433but neither the Owens or San Joaquin runs through the Sierra Nevadas. They flank the Sierras. Rivers run through, not valleys. Even Spain's Sierras doesn't have valleys running through them.
>>25491449The poem isn't about the America Sierra Nevada, you absolute fucking moron. Please, try again. This is good.
>>25491440Now that's a perfect cover.
>>25491451>Even Spain's Sierras doesn't have valleys running through them.Also>American site>American geography>American centered
>>25491449Notable Valleys in the Sierra Nevada:Yosemite Valley: A 7.5-mile-long glacial carved valley framed by iconic landmarks like El Capitan and Half Dome.Hetchy Valley: A stunning glacial valley on the Tuolumne River inside Yosemite National Park that is now a reservoir.Tehipite Valley: A remote, rugged canyon on the Middle Fork of the Kings River featuring the massive Tehipite Dome.Sierra Valley: The largest intermontane (between mountains) basin in the range, stretching across a down-faulted tectonic depression in the northern Sierra.Owens Valley: Located directly east of the main Sierra escarpment, it is the deepest valley in North America, flanked by Mount Whitney.But I reiterate, the poem references the Spanish Sierra Nevada, and its "song" that is heard through the unnamed valley, not the Californian Sierra Nevada. But yes, valleys run through mountain ranges. You are a supreme retard of astonishing proportions.
>>25491456>Even Spain's Sierras doesn't have valleys running through themThey do.>American site>American geography>American centeredWrong. It's about the Spanish Sierra Nevada, which also has valleys running through. And adjacent. All over the place. I could call the poem "Hear the Bluffs", and replace "song of Sierra" with "song of Pacific", and you'd argue the Pacific Ocean doesn't have bluffs. You're supremely retarded.
>>25491463no Rivers run through valleys. Valleys are formed from rivers cutting through mountain ranges. Valleys don't move.
>>25491466>writes about Spain>uses EnglishDisgusting
>>25491467Correct, valleys within mountain ranges, thus mountain ranges have valleys. Who the fuck mentioned "moving valleys"? You're retarded, and clearly ESL. Man, you must be a really bitter, shitty writer if this is what you waste your time doing. I bet you've posted your crap in these threads a million times before, been rightly shit on, and take your resentment out making a fool of yourself with shit like this. Sad. Many such cases. Try harder though.
>>25491469>Doesn't wipe the shit off his fingers before dipping them into his bag of cheetos then typing away on 4chan. Disgusting
It's fun how often these threads devolve into the most bizarre, esoteric argument between two enemy autists with the same special interest
>>25491524Arguing that there are valleys in mountain ranges is autistic?
The Complicated EnvelopeThe envelope I had was medium-sized and it could easily be stored in my pocket. I considered it to be special because it was very compact and represented the simplicity of a beautiful life.I took it with me to a small gathering of friends. I demonstrated its appearance to them, in the different forms that it took. From the subtle friction between the papers as the opaque colors meshed with each other during the opening of the envelope. To the invisible noise that it made as the imaginary heart brushed against it. Everything about the envelope was perfect to me.They admired it. I put it in the middle of a table so it could be admired as a complement to our social musings.In the times that I think about this complex envelope, I imagine a fusing of youthful matter. My thoughts rest and the envelope shares its secrets with me.
>>25491223Amazing
>>25484574The fuck happened to his chin?
>>25490894That's the upper crust stuff (which is often very good, I'm not saying it isn't) that only emerged after decades of establishment. The origins of the genre are in fun adventures and exploring brave new worlds. There's only so much inhuman grimdarkness people will put up with, let alone enjoy, and if you take a critical look at the world and possible future worlds Warhammer 40,000 is positively utopian by comparison.And on top of that the weirdness of everything around AI is exceeding the creativity of most sf writers. Why read a story about a horse than can run one hour longer than all the others when Henry Ford is selling model Ts possesed by daemons in your actual, living town. My own terror of the future, tendency towards hyperbole, and melodrama are leaking into this post but I hope you see my point, and I'm far from the only person who has made it.
>>25491200It's not any more unhinged than Lispector's Agua Viva. Stream of autistic consciousness is NOT just for Brazilian women, break the glass ceiling.
>>25491436Llms are good at pointing out (some) problems, NEVER at providing actual corrections beyond extremely trivial typos.
>>25491643Really? I appreciate it.
Scifi/fantasy is all wanpatan checkbox writing now and 'pure literary fiction' is all MFA house-style pseud shite.Everything feels so dry now. What do? How do I find good writers and perhaps more importantly how do I find a good audience for my own work?
>>25491729>possessed by daemonskek>>25491770>wanpatanwhat?
>>25491773Japanese term derived from English 'one pattern' meaning media that has been crafted by basically going through a big list of tropes for a specific genre and checking them off, rather than organically creating something and then determining what genre it is after the fact and holistically.Like imagine if you were writing something and your 'inspiration' was the wikipedia page description of the genre, or the tvtropes listicles.
>>25491778lmao that's hilariousdo they use this term to describe anime and movies too?
>>25491782It describes anything that is obviously wanpatan, regardless of medium, plenty of games are wanpatan.
>>25491784I find it amusing because it sounds almost identical to a chinese insult, wangbadan, which is "egg of a turtle" with roughly the same lexical pattern as "son of a bitch", but milder, more like "moron"
>>25491281>anon thinks he's a reliable source
>>25491296Exactly as many pitchforks that came after the creators of Rin? Probably zero. Also, people would have to notice you, instead of being apathetic about your work.
>>25491436>spend a week or so restoring these draftsYou don't keep backups? Or all of your revisions in a version-control system like git?
>>25491440>>25491454samefag (obviously)you have no friends here, arrogant jerk>>25491704born that way, sadly. also, why does he look like some fag grabbed his nutsack right as the picture was taken?
>>25491877>Or all of your revisions in a version-control system like git?This saved me a fair bit of time today. I realized that a relatively complex section that I thought was trying too hard and deleted was actually super important. It wasn't trivial but was short enough that I felt fine deleting it. God bless git.
>>25491881Dumb faggot wrong again (obviously) kek
>p-please read my e-girl story about the constipated cunt, guys, i’m white on the inside i promise!!
>>25491440>considers gay porn to be a positive promotion
>>25491925>writes obsessive gay porn in every thread>ackshually YOU'RE the gay one buddytopkek jeet logic
>>25491947You still consider it to be a positive promotion. How gay is that? And I'm a real writer that can write people that aren't like me.
>>25491955>And I'm a real writer that can write people that aren't like me.you're a gay 3rd world retard, there are no books about people like you because nobody wants to read about a brown basement gooner.
>>25491963Still won't confront that you consider gay porn to be a positive promotion for you.
Nah you're just so pathetic at trolling that nobody laughs and it makes your target look based by default. Keep the gay fanfics coming, brown boy! *cracks whip*
>writes about the dark triad>falls to pieces when confronted with the real thingposer
>>25491997>hehe NJB is a gay homo that's why i fantasize about him day and night and post my goon fic!>i am le real dark triad saaaar!!
>>25491999I'm not who you think I am. And we've met before.
This board is fucked lmfao
>>25492004it's literally one demented indian retard who's mad he wasn't born white
>>25492006It's both of you and half the other posters for different reasons. Still fun but holy shit.
>>25492009nigga all i do is promote my books. the response from this board has been to snitch to the jannies, get me banned and then write long detailed gay fanfics about me. very peculiar.
>>25492017you're obviously new here. and your spam-shilling, offensive as it is, is by no means all you do here. you've been an arrogant jerk to everyone, without cause.
>>25492017>very peculiar.No not really, people don't like being forcefed ads
Would it be wrong to have Hiro Goodman kill Lord Badguy after they’ve teamed up to stop Demon Lucisatan from burning away the multiverse? Lord Badguy was still a bad guy and needs to answer for his crimes against the galaxy no matter how much he insists he’s reformed.
>>25492058to skip over the step of reparations and rehabilitation, and go straight to killing would indeed not be the actions of a good man
>>25492058Yes. This is the trap many churches have fallen into over time. Somehow, "righteousness" morphs into wholesale slaughter of "infidels".
>>25492058Don't ask us, you fuck. This is it; you're doing it right now, and you don't even realise. What do you think is the answer? No one wants to read their own views fed back to them. If we're going to read YOU, it's because we want to know what YOU think.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c49bEejuAo
In terminal stasis were a call to every force summoned, and through short-wave radio Itztlacoliuhqui-Ixquimilli answered. Fuming flesh on black mesmer eyes automatic equipped renegade Boer ascend the carnage against blood-red skies. Stealth splits the firmament, ear drums burst to berserk silent scream of global ancient Aztec death-dog whistle, blood pierces the throat. Xibalba screams in all directions as the whole structure of reality went up in silent smoke
>>25492112>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c49bEejuAohuhinterestinga very American reactionI wouldn't dare yell at my boss like thatand yeah when I was junior we did our own evaluations and then the boss would read them and tell us where we were right or wrongand no it wasn't because of some cutesy self-reflective learning moment bullshit, it was because s/he was too busy and this way is the most time and effort saving for him/herand now that I'm reviewing others I realise that as well, it's way easier to review and edit someone's review rather than come up with it from scratch, and I'm way too busy picking up after their other shit to do it from scratch
>>25492127>Man willfully misses the whole point of a sceneThis was a tough read
>>25492132>willfully missesI got the point, dipshit, I'm telling you that we didn't give a fuck about all that shit IRL
How do I write NTR?
>>25492136>dipshitGod, American vernacular is mortifying
>>25492132Interesting response, idiot. He didn’t miss the point at all. He got it and then said it’s a load of shit. You appear to be under the impression that just because something was said in a TV show that it’s unassailable truth. Are you a woman? I could see this mentality working for a woman with an “Eat. Pray. Love.” poster somewhere.
>>25492156alright, I'll stick to my native vernacular then, you dozy cunt
>>25492157People like you remind me that this isn't exactly an academic place. His gripe was with the ostensible setting of the scene, and not the message beneath(which he did, in fact, not engage with). Believe it or not, a comedy about doctors doesn't have to be completely accurate down to the foreskin swabs to talk about something entirely unrelated to doctoring. He's basically complaining about Hamlet because da swordz iz wong.>You appear to be under the impression that just because something was said in a TV show that it’s unassailable truth. Are you a woman? I could see this mentality working for a woman with an “Eat. Pray. Love.” poster somewhere.Not sure where any of this came from. Kind of just seems like a you thing, so
>>25492173>His gripe was with the ostensible setting of the scene, and not the message beneath(which he did, in fact, not engage with)>a comedy about doctorsoh you ARE illiterate, sorry I didn't know that
>>25492031Even worse when they are adversitising terrible products
>>25492177Whoa, okay, you win. I surrender. You're absolutely right about everything
>>25492187And don’t you forget it, bitch!
>>25486994thanks for the tipgonna add a brief section where theyre just at home talking and tiny bit more detailthis concept will never be easy to visualize, i originally wrote it like a script but it had too many metaphors/descriptions. itll be much better as a short film
>>25486963>A trap triggered>He lost his arm to itWhat kind of fucking trap shitface? Is this a blind playthrough of a fucking fever dream?*cough*Ehm. Outside that and us not caring about the characters, you also have short sentence syndrome.
>>25491729>but I hope you see my pointI don't desu lol
>>25491436>I think I genuinely gave myself some kind of psychosis.AI psychosis is real and no one is immune, stay away from that shit
>>25491436> it would just reset and call my writing garbage,What the fuck did you say to it for it to ever say this? I can't make it say bad things even if I ask it to.
>>25491906>p-please read my e-girl storyI say this but don't look like this. Why have you still not used my actual portrait in which I look quite cute for any of your garish generations? And why do you assume I'm aryan (which actually means Indian)?>>25491440I'm far too busy working on a major motion picture production to be writing all that shit. And even if I wasn't, I wouldn't waste that much time and creative energy on you.
god damn writing dialogue is hardI have three characters talking about doing something. Two want to, one doesn't. And that's all fine, and the thing is part of the physical plot... but I need to have this conversation be a metaphor for something too, right?
>>25492525>but I need to have this conversation be a metaphor for something too, right?Not really. Are you talking about subtext?It's an opportunity to do that, or the explore their character dynamics, or to reveal a bit more about the characters in what they value/how they argue/etc, or progress their individual arcs, or tell some jokes, or just progress the plot.
>>25492525You could look at it from the perspective of 'why are they even doing this thing if talking about it can't be used as metaphor/subtext for the point I'm trying to make?'.
>>25492547Yeah, subtext. Like, I have a general theme already, and I'm trying to work it and related ideas into various conversations and situations. But sometimes it's just... hard, because I'm not very good at conversing in general.>>25492551Well, the thing they do makes is part of the plot. One character says it's too risky, the others don't care and want to do it anyway. That on its own is vaguely related to the theme, but it's also maybe too on the nose...
>>25492560Yeah sure, but everything in your writing should be in service to the overarching thing/idea/philosophy/exploration that your book is about. If you nail that then nothing in the plot could happen unless it was relevant.
>>25492525What you don't need but will probably want is actually called subtext. Basically just making your dialogue work on levels deeper than the bare fact of what they say. This can be troublesome since the same line can be subtextless or deeply subtextual depending on context. For example, a character says, "I'm hungry." With no context this is subtextless since all we can glean is the bre fact that someone feels the need to eat. Add the context that this person mere moments ago completely finished a four-course meal and that adds subtext which could be that the character has some kind of metaphorical void in them they're trying and failing to fill with food.Other example of context include the character being a cannibal and saying it to someone they trapped in a cage or the character having spent weeks on some kind of hunger strike
>>25492561>>25492565Lol yes I am aware of the concept of subtext, but I'm a bit unsure if I'm going deep enough. Like in this scene, two characters want to do some activity, one doesn't because it's too risky. It's a plot-driven action story, and this activity is time-dependent and happening in the moment... so it wouldn't make logical sense for them to suddenly have a conversation about something completely different and make that a metaphor for the activity. The character's views and lines on doing the activity or not are on their own revealing a bit of character... but should I make the activity a metaphor for... something bigger? Like, life? Idk if I'm smart enough to pull that off.
>>25492583I'd just write it as-is for now. See if it brings up any deeper connections in your mind as you go, and get it over and done with in the meantime so you can forge ahead. You can always go back and re-write it later if more meaning comes to the surface for you.
>>25492600>You can always go back and re-write it later...i am doing the rewrite :(
>>25492603kekWell is this scene in particular sticking out as thin compared to the rest? Maybe it just needs to be trimmed. Maybe it can be cut entirely, and the reluctant character's reluctance can become subtext of the scene where they do the thing, rather than their reluctance being explained point blank. Or maybe it's fine and you're just overthinking it.
>>25492622Yeah, I'll just do what I can. And for the rest of the dialogue scenes too, then share and see what people think. I'll need to do more writing to get better at this aspect.
>>25491770>How do I find good writersI'd tell you but first I'd have to be a good writer.
>>25492962>>25492962>>25492962
>>25489924>I kind of want to see where this goes. Ive wanted so badly to hear something like this you're supposed to write for yourself not others I want to be a reader I want to be a writer life is more than just video games and anime my attention span is fried and I find being creative a truly difficult thing to do especially now that I'm doing trash outs and groundskeeping in exchange for rent i have to go to the library just so I'm not distracted by screens
>>25492031we're also not fond of AI slop
