Alcaeo editio>τὸ πρότερον νῆμα·>>25462399>Μέγα τὸ Ἑλληνιστί/Ῥωμαϊστί·https://mega dot nz/folder/FHdXFZ4A#mWgaKv4SeG-2Rx7iMZ6EKw>Mέγα τὸ ANE·https://mega dot nz/folder/YfsmFRxA#pz58Q6aTDkwn9Ot6G68NRg>Work in progress FAQhttps://rentry dot co/n8nrkoAll Classical languages are welcome.
τοῖσιν Ἑλληνίζουσιν
Ad usum anonum>anon, anonis m.
>>25494769>OP digits 56Rolling for neo-latin then
Very interdasting. I'm glad I took the time to memorize a little vergil because it makes poetry feel less mind-numbing. This author was dubbed the Christian Vergil in his time for this work.
>>25494764Keeline is a leading scholar with 20 years of experience who declared Latin unlearnable, chud. I suggest you do a little more reading about Latin in English so you can keep up.https://latinitium.com/is-reading-latin-impossible/https://www.researchgate.net/publication/376094525_Latin_Vocabulary_and_Reading_Latin_Challenges_and_Opportunities
οὐ χρῆ κάκοισι θῦμον ἐπιτρέπην,προκόψομεν γὰρ οὐδὲν ἀσάμενοι,ὦ Βύκχι, φαρμάκων δ᾿ ἄριστονοἶνον ἐνεικαμένοις μεθύσθην
I saw an anon the other day using some kind of program that would provide definitions from wiktionary after clicking a latin word. Does anyone know what program that is?>>25494898If you read the article you'd realize he's (a) not arguing that Latin is unlearnable and (b) right.
>>25494976yomitan is the resource, anon. holding shift is the default key while hovering your mouse over the beginning letter of the word
>>25494898Do you know what's even funner? Comparing editions. See>nam seu mobilibus uepris inhorruit ad uentum foliis(from that site)vs>nam seu mobilibus veris inhorruit adventus foliis(from packhum.org)So, even if we were able to read Horace like a Roman native, can we actually read Horace at all?
The critical apparatus from Q. Horati Flacci opera, Wickham>XXIII 1 vitas Comm. Cruq. στ: vitat codd, 5 vepris Gogavius : vitis Muretus 6 ad ventum Muretus : ad ventos KellerSo we have>veris, vepris, vitisand>adventus, ad ventum, ad ventosWhich one do you choose?
I majored in classics and it has been over a year since I graduated and moved back in with my parents.I have to say I made a really bad choice, I was young and stupid and now as a consequence i will be a minimum wage worker for the rest of my life
>>25495187>I majored in classicsReally? Solve my doubt above then. Which one is the lectio difficilior and why?
>>25495187But at least you have the smug satisfaction of knowing that you're intellectually superior to everyone else around you (even if they fail to appreciate that with their small, uneducated brains). Have you considered trying to do something besides minimum wage? What about joining ICE or something?
>>25494976It’s his other, now paywalled, article that I have a problem with. He says acquiring the top 6,670 lemmas, which his corpus analysis showed was 98% coverage, was “virtually impossible” and didn’t actually provide advice but simply that people should adjust their expectations. He is an excellent latinist it’s more his tone and total lack of solutions that’s obnoxious. Like, has he ever heard of studying vocab besides just inputting and hoping it sticks?The article’s thrust is essentially that if you do the least efficient possible approach to acquiring vocabulary, i.e. simply grinding everything once-through and never rereading or using anything like SRS, you will find it virtually impossible to ever become a smooth Latin reader. On this point I wholeheartedly agree. Plus, a lot of the classical corpus is just extremely literary and difficult. I totally agree there too. (Of course, he doesn’t suggest maybe reading anything of the mountains of easier latin written after 235a.d., which would be heretical to suggest in a classics department.Also, natives get tripped up on rare words in poetry all the time in their own language.
>if latinists use a dogshit method to learn, latinists will never match society’s expectations >therefore it’s society’s expectations that should be lowered
Favourite Greek Alphabet?I think the Corinthian is neat. Look at that beta and they even had koppa. Name of their city was even written 'Ϙόρινθος'.
>>25495770Why does it seem to be saying that Corinthians used what looks like a sigma for iota and didn't have sigma?
whenever i hear someone mention lawrence alma tadema i think of the guy from stand and deliver
>>25494769Roll
spent two-three hours to write 500-600 words of weekly Latin award
>>25494756Greekanons, forgive my retardation, but what is the 'correct' way to pronounce attic greek? I keep hearing about Reuchlinian method, and modern Greeks seem to dislike the reconstructed version. Or is it the wrong question
>>25496162Lucian pronunciation
>>25496162correct as in historically correct, the reconstructed Attic ipso factoas in most commonly used and "default" in schools/unis in the west, ErasmianByzantine/Greek is irrelevant outside of Greece or maybe orthodox church related contexts
https://youtu.be/n7lbt3xMa-8?is=NiHEftMdfmrTV0T5Which pronunciation is this?
>>25496382reconstructed, mostly
>>25496398Thanks
Kek
What.
Today so far I have reread 17 chapters of book 2 of de bello gallico, finishing the book, and have read 13 new chapters of de bello gallico book 4, finishing that book, and I have yet to go mine de bello civilii for new vocabulary cards, but I expect to take about 10 more chapters of reading there.
I read 2 chapters of Genesis today. I mined pinguēdō, funny word.
>6 occurrences in the logeion corpusNow THAT'S quality mining material right there>>25497286Great job. If you're already mining when you're working through genesis then by the time you get to any classical authors you'll come in equipped with a really robust vocabulary.
>>25496752Ils sont fous ces Romain. Sapientes tamen illos gallos puto, nam patet Panoramix satis potionem magicam conficere nequiisse.
>>25497264They run on the tēmō and stood atop the horses to increase their visibility
>>25497305Why mine self-evident words like circulor (deponent with middle voice meaning from circulus) or pinguedo (abstract noun fron pinguis)?
>>25497401Not only evident but those exist in all romance langs as well, e.g. pinguedine and circolare
>>25497414And English.>pinguid pinguidity
>>25497305The link to that tool is https://artflsrv03.uchicago.edu/philologic4/Latin/ in case someone can't find it
>>25497401I mined it for the specific usage Caesar took because I mined it from Caesar and not from the other words and because to tackle dense Latin prose I want a more specific sense of the word’s meaning than “circly-verb”
>>25497391I was posting it because of how nuts the feat described was, I can understand the text just fine. You are actually illiterate in Latin btw and the sentence doesn’t mean anything remotely close to what you wrote. Picrel for you to make a comparison.>>25497427I was sort of joking above though, it’s frequency list is really somewhat haphazard so it’s more of a sentence bank. I’m read a word in Caesar like 6 times, nactus, and logeion turned up nothing.
>>25497375Jej
>>25497440>You are actually illiterate in Latin btw and the sentence doesn’t mean anything remotely close to what you wrote.You may be illiterate in English. Or maybe back then the yoke was put under the horse or inside their arses, dunno.
I checked a couple dictionaries just to be sure and found that exact same passage. Just in case someone is interested.>1. per temonem percurrere et in iugo insistere, correre sopra il timone e tenersi fermi sul giogo, Caes.https://dizionari.corriere.it/dizionario_latino/Latino/T/temo_1.shtml
>>25494761κλῆρον πάλλω
>>25497886>ἀπανδρειόωhapax legomenon awardHermetic literature gotta be studied even if you get the bare Greek
>>25497436How's "deponent with middle voice meaning" not specific?
>>25498060Because when I read I want to see “circulari” and immediately envision the meaning rather than having to reconstruct its grammatical category, I know almost every word I see in a given page of Caesar, so I’m more aggressively mining words that I kind of already get so that it doesn’t take me an insane amount of time. Are we just doing the cycle again? 1. Complain about latin textual difficulties and the gap between analyzing vs smoothly reading with any precision 2. Someone shows their method 3. NitpickWhy don’t you stick with your method and I’ll stick with mine and we’ll see where we each end up after another 1,000 hours of work. :)
>>25498126>Why don’t you stick with your method and I’ll stick with mine and we’ll see where we each end up after another 1,000 hours of work. :)I'm just trying to understand the logic behind your method to see if I mining memo cards is worth it and if I should start doing it as well. I'm not attacking you.
But I must say it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.
I wonder of that guy would be able to "immediately envision the meaning" of the so called deponent verbs if he spent more time reading instead of doing Anki.
>>25498142>>25498163>>25498188I read 34 chapters of Caesar yesterday and in my morning session read another 7 today.Why are you seething that someone else doesn’t think and learn exactly like you do? It seems like a stupid thing to keep interrogating. Are you autistic?
>>25498197Relax dude, as I said, I was just trying to understand if your method is worth it.Also, why the hell are you posting about something if you don't want to discuss it?>are you autisticAh I get it now you're just a normalfag lmao
>>25498212Got you dead to rights lmao
You fool, Latinists don’t actually read or discuss the literature they just argue about how to best learn to parse the literature for the sole purpose of arguing about how to learn to parse the literature.
>>25498242This but unironically.>question about textual criticism>completely ignored>question about Latin grammar or prosody>completely ignored>question about editions or authors or their works>completely ignoredIt was a miracle we had some discussion about Ennius and Old Japanese in the last thread. People only come here to brag about their pedagogical sect (llpsi wheelock etc.)
Translation challenge let's go:EasyNo pain no gain.What's that kid's name? I forgot.Give me something to do I'm bored.MediumWithout the slightest remorse he said he'd do it again.The more people show up the bigger the noise's gonna be.How can they hope to succeed if they can't even agree on who's gonna lead?HardAfter arguing the same point over and over again, frustrated by the inability to get his message through, he resolved to try another approach: instead of taking the center of the conversation, letting himself be overwhelmed by the certainly poorly educated new disciples, he, after choosing the topic at random from few selected relevant chapters of the doctrine's sacred scriptures as well as two debaters, acted as arbiter and, setting up few rules of engagement, let the disciples elucidate their own understanding in front of each other.
>>25498333Checked but ultimately futile since you won't get any corrections or feedback :(
>>25498419it's an exercise in outputting in of itself, you can self-correctmaybe some would correct but you'll get others complaining about corrections anyway
>>25498431>you'll get others complaining about corrections anywaykek thisI was thinking about a similar exercise but that would allow even us retards to get some feedback.>Get literal translation>Post it>Rewrite it in Latin>Check against original text>Since we have a reference text, we could comment on itThe thing is where to get the literal translation from. Interlineal Bible? LLM? Any ideas?
>>25498333some of these sentences are too colloquial for translation to classical languages>easy無痛無功。彼孺名何?忘矣。請子賜命,吾無志也。無恥而曰願復作之。多人來則,其囂愈大。未選其率,況望得功?復論之,子未明其徒而懊之,變其論法;不以己為中而攻于未明其論之徒,而于四書選章幾、論者二後,以己為判者,立論之法,而許徒相明其論。
>>25498333I swear the concept of “boredom” as we understand it seems hard to express and unless I'm misremembering I recall some philosopher or whatever talking about thisοὐδὲν χωρὶς πόνου κέρδοςτί τοὔνομα κείνου τοῦ παιδός; λήθη μ’ ἔχειἄγε πάρεχέ μοι δραστέον τι, σχολή‘στι γάρ μοιοὐδένα τὸ παράπαν ἔχων οἶκτον ἔφη σε δεύτερον πρήξειν ἄν τωὐτόὅσῳ πλεῦνες οἱ παρεσόμενοι τοσοῦτος ἔσται ὁ θόρυβοςκοῖον κάτα τρόπον ἐλπίδ' ἔχουσιν τοῦ περιγενήσεσθαι μὴ δυνάμενοι τόν σφιν ἡγεμονεύσοντ' ἑλέσθαι;τὸν αὐτὸν λόγον αἰεὶ διακατασκεπτόμενος ἄνωθεν κάτωθεν καὶ σφαλεὶς τοῦ δύνασθαι πείθειν ἐβουλεύσατο ἄλλην βουλήν· ἀντὶ τοῦ ἐν μέσῳ ὤν αὐτὸς τὸν λόγον διδόναι καὶ κατέχεσθαι ὑπὸ τῶν ἐνδήλως μὴ ὀρθῶς πεπαιδευμένων νέων μαθητῶν, πάλῳ ἐξεταστέον τι πρῆγμα ἐκ τῶν πολλοῦ ἀξίων ἐκκρίτων κεφαλαίων τῆς αἱρέσεως καὶ δύω ῥήτορε ἐξῃρηκὼς καὶ κατεστηκὼς νόμους τινὰς ἐς καλλὴν ἀντιλογίαν ἐβουλεύσατο ὡσεὶ δικαστὴς μαθητὰς περιορᾶν διηγευμένους τὰς ἑωυτοῖσι δοκεύοντας ὀρθὰς γνώμας πρὸ ἀλλήλων
>>25498494could be interesting too yeah, I've though about it myself when out of ideas for the hard part, just take some high brow author and paste some translated section
Advice on reading Sir Gawain and the Green Knight? Going through the first 100 or so lines, I can get the gist of what is going on, but as for individual words I can understand maybe 70%, missing even whole lines.I'd rather avoid textbooks since I know I'd get bored, are there other works of literature with a similar language, but easier or closer to modern English, that could "train" me for it?
Latine translation challenge TESTI've read the Douay-Rheims is quite close to the Vulgate>10 And when the multitudes had seen what Paul had done, they lifted up their voice in the Lycaonian tongue, saying: The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men;>11 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter: but Paul, Mercury; because he was chief speaker.>12 The priest also of Jupiter that was before the city, bringing oxen and garlands before the gate, would have offered sacrifice with the people.>13 Which, when the apostles Barnabas and Paul had heard, rending their clothes, they leaped out among the people, crying,>14 And saying: Ye men, why do ye these things? We also are mortals, men like unto you, preaching to you to be converted from these vain things, to the living God, who made the heaven, and the earth, and the sea, and all things that are in them: 10 Turbae autem cum vidissent quod fecerat Paulus, levaverunt vocem suam lycaonice, dicentes : Dii similes facti hominibus, descenderunt ad nos. 11 Et vocabant Barnabam Jovem, Paulum vero Mercurium : quoniam ipse erat dux verbi. 12 Sacerdos quoque Jovis, qui erat ante civitatem, tauros, et coronas ante januas afferens, cum populis volebat sacrificare. 13 Quod ubi audierunt Apostoli, Barnabas et Paulus, conscissis tunicis suis exilierunt in turbas clamantes, 14 et dicentes : Viri, quid haec facitis? et nos mortales sumus, similes vobis homines, annuntiantes vobis ab his vanis converti ad Deum vivum, qui fecit caelum, et terram, et mare, et omnia quae in eis sunthttps://drbo.org/drl/chapter/51014.htm
Will Latin increase my enjoyment of French?
>>25498590let's try, some things I tried to do as classically as possible but e.g the use of convertor in a christian sense is kinda inevitable>10 Videntes turbae gesta Pauli vocem attollentes Lycaonice dixerunt: superi descenderunt ad nos habitu humano;>11 Vocaruntque Barnabas Iovem: Paulum autem Mercurium cum esset orator maximus.>12 Flamen Iovis Patris quoque cum esset prope urbem atque boves sertaque ageret pro portis facturus erat sacra apud multitudinem.>13 Quem cum audirent Paulus Barnabasque adfuturum vestes lacerantes in medio prosiluerunt turbae flentes,>14 Atque dicentes: o homines, quidnam facitis? Mortales ipsi sumus, homines sicut vos, exorantes vos ut ab fatuis istis convertamini ad Deum viventem factorem caeli terrae maris atque omnium quae insunt his:
>>25498590>>10 And when the multitudes had seen what Paul had done, they lifted up their voice in the Lycaonian tongue, saying: The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men;Et cum multitudo, quod Paulus fecerat, vidisset, vocem sermone Lycaonico elevarunt, dicentes: Di ut homines apud nos descenderunt>>11 And they called Barnabas, Jupiter: but Paul, Mercury; because he was chief speaker.Et Barnabam Iovem appelarunt, Paulum autem Mercurium, quoniam dux [loquens?] erat>>12 The priest also of Jupiter that was before the city, bringing oxen and garlands before the gate, would have offered sacrifice with the people.Iovis sacerdos quoque, qui ante oppidum erat, afferens bouem atque ??? ante fores, cum hominibus sacrificare conatus est>>13 Which, when the apostles Barnabas and Paul had heard, rending their clothes, they leaped out among the people, crying,Cum id apostoli Paulus Barnabasque audivissent, vestes rescinderunt, in turbam saluerunt, clamantes>>14 And saying: Ye men, why do ye these things? We also are mortals, men like unto you, preaching to you to be converted from these vain things, to the living God, who made the heaven, and the earth, and the sea, and all things that are in them:et dicentes: Viri, cur haec fecistis? Nos etiam mortali sumus, homines sicut vos, praedicans vobis a vanis rebus ad Deum vivum convertere, qui caelum et terram atque mare creavit, et omnia quae in iis sunt.
By the way, why not practice output by writing stuff directly in Latin? I don’t really see anyone practice that way.
>>25498738some of us do on the Porticus, weekly commentaries mostlyI like challenges because they likewise as the name suggests challenge you to do something, feeling some kind of compulsion to partake to it, even if effectively fictitious, mentally I've noticed helps actually doing it whereas, I guess admittedly because I'm somewhat weak willed, if I just set it to myself to write something on my computer I'll be slackingmaybe it's similar to having a gym bro, someone who is there to exercise with you motivates you more than leaving it to your own mind alone
>>25498738We are only able to write Latin if we have a Latin text to copy from.Now seriously, what for? No feedback = useless. Most of the time you will simply be ignored.
What's your most schizo take on the Saturnian verse? I finished "Mercado, Italic verse" a few days ago, read a few primary and secondary sources and I'm reading another book on Latin prosody and it doesn't make any sense. Romans (Bassus, de metris, for example) (centuries after Andronicus and Naevius) wrote it was a iambic meter, but a lot (maybe most) of surviving Saturnians aren't iambic. Some modern philologists say it was quantitative, others qualitative (accentual), others that it wasn't a verse but a metrical system (which would produce different kinds of saturnian verses). The structure seems evident at first (4+3 || 3+3 syllables) but then you find verses everywhere that doesn't respect it, even in inscriptions. Some of the elogia Scipionum seem to follow it, then you have that one that begins with HONC OINO PLOIRUME CONSENTIONT that almost look like free verse. Manuscript tradition is probably corrupt as fuck. The most puzzling part is that Naevius and Andronicus both wrote Saturnians AND typical dramatic verses. They wrote commedies and tragedies and were familiar with Greek meters. Did they wrote saturnians using a different system? Was the original saturnian meter(s) invented for a different prosody (either archaic Latin or some other language, maybe Indoeuropean maybe not) and were later adapted to old Latin? Both Andronicus and Naevius lived in the same period as Plautus. Did they really wrote poetry using two completetly different metrical systems? It's that even possible?
Bassus De metris FragmentaDE SATURNIO VERSU de saturnio versu dicendum est, quem nostri existi- 278maverunt proprium esse Italicae regionis, sed falluntur. a Graecis enim varie et multis modis tractatus est, 280non solum a comicis, sed etiam a tragicis. nostri autem antiqui, ut vere dicam quod apparet, usi sunt eo non observata lege nec uno genere custodito, <ut> inter se consentiant versus, sed praeterquam quod durissimos fecerunt, etiam alios breviores, alios longiores inse- 285ruerunt, ut vix invenerim apud Naevium, quos pro exemplo ponerem. apud Euripidem et Callimachum et quosdam antiquae comoediae scriptores tale inveni genus 'turdis edacibus dolos comparas amice'; apud Archilochum tale 'quem non rationis egentem vicit Ar- 290chimedes', et tertium genus 'consulto producit eum quo sit impudentior'. apud nostros autem in tabulis antiquis, quas triumphaturi duces in Capitolio figebant victoriaeque suae titulum saturniis versibus proseque- bantur, talia repperi exempla: ex Regilli tabula 295'duello magno dirimendo regibus subigendis', qui est subsimilis ei quem paulo ante posui 'consulto pro- ducit eum quo sit imprudentior'; in Acilii Glabrionis tabula 'fundit fugat prosternit maximas legiones'. apud Naevium poetam hos repperi idoneos 300'ferunt pulchros crateras aureas lepi- stas' et alio loco 'novem Iovis con- cordes filiae sorores'. sed ex omnibus istis, qui sunt asperrimi et ad demonstrandum minime accommodati, optimus est quem Metelli proposuerunt de Naevio 305aliquotiens ab eo versu lacessiti 'malum dabunt Metelli Naevio poetae'. hic enim saturnius constat ex hipponactei quadrati iambici posteriore com- mate et phallico metro. hipponactei quadrati exemplum 'quid immerentibus noces, quid invides amicis?' nam 310'malum dabunt Metelli' simile est illi 'quid invides amicis', cui detracta syllaba prima facit phallicon metrum, 'invides amicis'. ex quibus compositus est hic saturnius, ut sit par huic, 'quid invides amicis, invides amicis' hoc modo, 'malum dabunt Metelli 315Naevio poetae'.
>>25498907>>25498911While I’d love to participate in these types of discussions poetry is just something not really in my wheelhouse yet
>>25498911All the Roman verses cited by Bassus can be scanned as hypercatalectic iambic senarii, but he says he "cherrypicked" those.The scheme seems to bex– | x– | x–x || –u– | x––
>>25494785I just learnt about Juvencus, and ancient poet who wrote Evangeliorum libri quattuor, in hexameters.
>>25499294Nisi fallor, it’s intentionally extremely derivative of the Aeneid as an effort to appeal to the educated elite of the time in Rome. Have you checked out the Christiad?One nugget I found in Beeson’s medieval latin reader was a story where Vergil acts as a wise man and solves some romance plot in an ancient kingdom, apparently medievals wrote a lot of Vergil fanfic where he was a wizard with even a magic wand. This magic wand is the thing that caused wands to be associated with magical uses in popular imagination. Vergil was very popular in the middle ages. I wonder a little if the Christiad’s publication may have caused the Aeneid to be used less for a time since the Christiad was seen as a more moral text to teach poetry.
>>25499294Thanks for bringing it up. I’m finding this actually somewhat easy to read so I think I’ll take the time to work through it.
>>25498907I've never met a latin poem I could understand.
>>25498907I remember being confused as well when I stumbled upon the wikipedia page on it, seems mostly like an academic curiosity not so much anything "workable" so to speak like the more famous/well-preserved meters
>>25499391Et rosa rubra est, et se ostendunt violae agricaeruleas. Sapis hoc carmen. Nunc da mihi nummas.
>>25500257Kek>>25494769IacioWhat are we reading today prosebros? I read 10 chapters of de bello civilii when I woke up.
>>25500261>6.Induite veteres illos animos, viri Germani, quibus totiens Romanis terrori et formidini fuistis, et ad angulos Germaniae oculos convertite limitesque eius laceros et distractos colligite! (2) Pudeat, pudeat nationi nostrae iugum et servitutem imposuisse externisque et barbaris regibus tributa et vectigalia pendere. (3) O liberum et robustum populum, o nobilem et fortem gentem et plane dignam Romano imperio, cuius inclitum maris portum et claustra Oceani nostri Sarmata et Dacus possident! (4) Ab oriente autem valentissimae gentes serviunt, Marcomanni, Quadi, Bastarnae et Peucini et quasi a corpore Germaniae nostrae separate vivunt. (5) Nec Iazyges Metanastas adnumero gentilicio etiam cultu et nostratia lingua utentes. (6) Ab occasu autem Gallia superior tantum nobis amica et munifica immortali virtute et incredibili sapientia Philippi Palatini Rheni, qui utranque incliti amnis ripam regit faustoque semper reget imperio,>"dum rotat astra polus, feriunt dum litora venti."KinoI’m always shocked by how much just more Caesar and ignoring other varieties of Latin has been improving my sight reading of all other eras and genres. Sauveur was right all along.
With Caesar and by extension a lot of other reading, explicit case-naming has “melted away” and my brain for the most part just tracks word relationships, only really explicitly recalling cases when I hit something difficult to untangle. So simple clauses like the following:>Caesar milites flumen transire iussitOr>virum magna virtute praeditum viditAre processed completely fluently now, i.e. I simply read word by word and meaning emerges directly from Latin with neither translating nor explicit grammar analysis. It’s hard to explain but I think it signals big things coming for fluency in the medium-term.
>>25499332>Beeson’s medieval latin readerThanks for the tip! It looks like an interesting and fun read.>>25500261>I read 10 chapters of de bello civilii when I woke up.Nice blogposting, very interesting, we really wanted to know that.
>>25500312>more blogposting
>>25500324Both posts are me. Thanks for complaining. It bumps the thread.
>>25500349>Both posts are meSo what? First one was useful, the second one is just embarrassing.And this one >>25500312 is even worse. No need to spam a thread in a slow board.
>>25498333Nullo nisu nullum lucrum.Quidnam illic puero nomen? Non teneo memoria.Cedo faciundum mihi age taedio aestuo.Ait se nulla sibi sollicitudine rusum idem facturum fuisse.Quanto plures aderunt eo maior strepitus erit.Quomodo iis ulla spes est impetrandi propositum cum ullum sibi nequeant ducem creare?Cum iam frustra idem argumentum etiam atque etiam pertractasset nulli emolumento auditorum tandem novum consilium cepit hoc: cum antea mos esset in medio se ponere disputationis atque sermonem instituere novis cum discipulis qui, cum essent profecto parum instituti, obruebant eum verborum copia, nunc autem argumento sorte ex electis capitulis sacrorum doctrinae librorum capto una cum duobus discipulis incohaturis disputationes ipse instar iudicis post constituta nonnulla disceptandi praecepta coepit audire ipsos discipulos inter se verba commutantes eo pacto ut quo modo res intellexissent aliis explicarent suismet sententiis.
>>25500332>>25500371I suspect most people here prefer blogposts over whining posts from the thread-police. I don't understand the criticism "blogpost" anyway. What posts would one expect to find in this thread other than posts in some way touching on our experiences with the Latin or other classical languages?
