>decide to watch Cyborg 009 thinking it's gonna be a fun action/adventure series>every other episode is a tragic backstory followed by somebody heroically sacrificing themselves so the others can survive or run awayNobody talks about how depressing this show is
>>23487542What part of Shotaro Ishinimori did you not understand? Literally all manga and anime from back then was depressing.
>>23487542chibi jet
>>23487542Tragic reluctant heroes like that were great. It's what makes it ironically uplifting once you go through it. I love this show until the last arc where they're wearing blue since it felt like the prior arc had a perfect ending. Listen to the full theme song it's like 10 minutes long. https://youtu.be/hHLSkGrTEn0
>>23487555This. It's Ishinomori's bread and butter. Tragic heroes who lose their humanity (or never had it in the first place) but fight for peace.
>>23487567I love how many Jet clones there are.
>>23487581I've never read the manga, but I've heard the 2001 show is almost shot for shot. When the manga got to that ending, it was apparently so unpopular that Ishinomori was forced to retcon it.
>>23487581I always got the impression that the show was over after they defeated Black Ghost and the rest is just extra non canon/what-if stuff. Especially since it seems more magic/fantasy than sci-fi at the end.
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In the United States, on Toonami, they nixed it from the timeslot after the Mythos arc. I never saw the rest of the show until fairly recently. That said, to fulfill my autism, 009 Vs Devilman is headcanon due to the implication of assured annihilation by the end of Devilman, seeing as how the OVA takes place just after the end of the Mythos arc. That's the Toonami canon now.
>>23487542You either end with Joe and Jet needlessly dying, or everybody getting slaughtered in GOD'S WAR. There's no positive end for Cyborg 009, or most Ishinomori manga.
>>23487542Did you know they're making a new anime next year
>>23488181Another one?What is this like the seventh one?
>>23487640>>23487737>>23488167The deal is, the shooting star ending was kinda early in the manga run. The 2001 series went in a different route. They had that fake out defeat of Skull around episode 16 so they could focus on the stories that came AFTER the defeat of Black Ghost in the manga. These were very important stories for character development. The series wouldn’t have the same impact without them. But the 2001 series cleverly saved the original ending to the last arc in the 2001 series. What came after is indeed not-canon, it’s called Conclusion God’s War and it’s written based on notes Ishinomori left for the last arc in the manga series before he passed away. So it was basically an incomplete and never released story that got adapted just for fan service purposes. It doesn’t match the continuity of the 2001 series, it’s more of a tease of what Ishinomori was planning for the big finale. There was 2 early attempts to tell this story in the manga, both got discontinued for several reasons, but it was a hugely influential story that influenced a lot of later works such as Devilman.
>>23489604I had no idea the shooting star ending was that early in the manga. It a great bookend to the series but I agree it would have felt too abrupt without all the other arcs the anime adapted before it.
