Does anyone else prefer the original designs of the After Colony Gundams?Yeah, yeah, I know Katoki has sleek designs. But they're missing something gritty and 90's about these ones. I hate that there's no Converge OG Deathscythe, only the stupid retconned one Katoki bashed out in an afternoon.The OG had SOUL
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>>23492319>>23492325You're not alone, friend. Ever since I was a kid first watching Wing on Toonami I loved the OG designs and knew they were the superior looks.On the other hand, I HIGHLY detest Katoki's redesigns.
>>23492319Holy shit fuck off.
>>23492601>>23492637The duality of man.
>>23492319>>23492325>>23492601The original designs mog the shitting remakes, and even the EW versions
Case by case basis. Like I really don't like the EW Wing Zero but the EW Heavy Arms Custom is awesome. EW Sandrock is fugly but EW Altron is way better than TV.
>>23492319Only for Wing Gundam itselfWing Gundam is the last truly great design from Okawara. It was all downhill from there.
>>23492750Wing IS a phenomenal designBut Okawara's designs for G-Saviour in 1999/2000 are the peak of his career
This is the anime that gave Katoki too much power
>>23492840>But Okawara's designs for G-Saviour in 1999/2000 are the peak of his careerKits NEVER EVER
>>23492325EW has best designs outside of Heavyarms.I want my WING Zero to have WINGS, you know.
>>23492841they didn't even use katoki designs until EW
>>23492601why the fuck is it drawn in SEED style
>>23492319Okawaras designs for the gundams are just overall better, katoki should have stuck to making grunt suits.
>>23492319>>23492325Fixed. This is how it should have been.
>>23494383Can't argue with this, though I actually prefer the OG Deathscythe Hell's shield over the EW version's Batman wings.Ultimately the only thing the EW versions improved are Heavyarms and Sandrock which definitely deserved real upgrades.On the other hand, Katoki couldn't even be bothered to do an EW Epyon.
>>23492325What I don't understand is why he went in a completely and utterly different direction with the Heavy Arms' colors. Like he seems to dislike the color red in general, actually.
>>23492325I know that TV Heavyarms barely changed on the upgrade but the red paint job is better for me.Wing Zero with the angel wings looks cool in a vacuum but I don't think it meshes with the overall mechanical style of the series. It also to me distracts from the updated parts of the design I do think look better.The Sandrocks I have no strong feelings for one way or the other.
>>23492325I can't take the ew wing zero seriously, the wings are just too much.also why does he hate shields? every ew had their shields ripped off (except wufei's technically I guess?)
>>23496246>Katoki couldn't even be bothered to do an EW EpyonHe created his own version of the Epyon later for the Glory of Losers manga.>>23496537EW's setting is that the Gundams were still exhausted for supplies and equipment, and not fully restored since their last battle against White Fang at the end of the TV series. They didn't bother doing it since they thought the peace was permanent and they were going to toss the Gundams into the sun anyway.Glory of Losers gives the Gundam team a bunch of shields.
>>23496600>EW's setting is that the Gundams were still exhausted for supplies and equipment, and not fully restored since their last battle against White Fang at the end of the TV series.that makes sense for the upgraded versions in the 2nd half of the show but not for the original 01-05's that were all basically destroyed
>>23496634Glory of Losers also attempts to answer that by giving all of them a bunch of optional equipment that they'll pull out for specific battles. None of it is stuff that they keep for very long, especially since the pilots are traveling all over the world, they take some damage from time to time, and end up losing or dropping gear. At one point, Sandrock even gets back the familiar arm shield with the snake fang design.
>>23496746alright that's fair I guess, at least they tried addressing it
>>23492319i like the og tv better, but I can see why they would want to do a redesign
>>23496600>He created his own version of the Epyon later for the Glory of Losers manga.>doesn't post it
>>23492319I agree on all except the Altron. While I like the original Altron, the Katoki one is so much more intimidating and fitting imo. I like the original Altron but it's a bit of a mess imo
Junya Ishigaki draws them so much better than Okawara or even Katoki does
>>23492325EW = overdesigned crap
>>23497674Oddly puffy.
Deathscythe Hell losing the skeletal rib chest vents is crazy to me, you'd think Katoki would keep that.