(Advanced) Hizack-chan (Rah II Hrair) is helping us look for Volume 102--useful links--https://hobby.dengeki.com/title_re-boot/>official Reboot illustration list, missing first few entrieshttps://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/12/mobile-suit-z-gundam-advance-of-zeta.html>scans of some of the earlier entrieshttps://hobby.dengeki.com/comic_novel/19559/>samples of the ongoing mangahttps://m.weibo.cn/u/6199800362?>weibo page of Watership 4.5, a fan circle that makes 3d models and prints of many AoZ designs. Good insight into how they function.http://www.inask.net/blog-category-144.html>another page with their stuffhttps://archive.org/details/Advance_of_Z_The_Flag_of_Titans_Vol.1/mode/2up>internet archive has scans of The Flag of Titans compiled in 6 volumes, this is the first onehttps://jim-quail.github.io/aoz-reboot-translations>WIP translation project for AoZ Reboot, beginning with Dengeki entriesLast thread>>23453297
Still the latest volume, Universal Conversion Development Machinehttps://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/reboot82/And reminder we've had a Hazel Hrair teaser and the manga hiatus might be ending soon.
Should we now call this form [Queenly Hrair]?
I really should have thought of this sooner. If that's how the beam smart gun showed up, it's only natural to have the machine gun mounted on the pod too. Not the worst look I think, though I really like having it carried in hand.>>23500322Guess so? We somehow STILL don't have an official name for it beyond just "Queenly" which doesn't fully reflect its specs, so yeah adding Hrair does the trick for now.
Having the Hazel Kelderek be a testbed for various OYW equipment is such a genius idea. The OYW has suck a large variety of frankly weird shit to go around because so many designers and authors wanted to add their own OCs to the setting that it makes perfect sense for there to be a perfectly average Joe MS that tests all these equipment in the post war period to see what was genuinely good and worth looking further into and what was just some wunderwaffe.This is a far cry from the spec ops Hazel everyone imagined the Kelderek to be at first but hey this is straight up better.
>>23500632>spec ops Hazelin a way it's still that as well, Black Hares are still a black ops unit. It's just part of that is developing the software for TR Plan and other testing projects
>uh so I made this design that just uses bits and pieces of designs made by other artistshow is this not theft
don't engage trolls
>>23500640don't be KWAB about this buddy it's actually an ingenious idea but it makes one ponder
Considering the hand itself is roughly twice the size that Shekinah's made for it's holding onto it remarkably well. And it's surprisingly neat how the rear of the gun fits in so well with the forearm design.Also attempt at a Xeku Eins Rah II via the booster pod connection. Something about the proportions isn't right, the TR-6 booster pod ends up too high and too far away to play nice with having the wing units clamp onto the shoulders. Not unsolvable, but a bit awkward and just a consequence of transitioning from 2D to 3D. Slightly different proportions or some clever joints could get around it I reckon.>>23500632There's something really charming about Kelderek getting equipped with gear from both random obscure stuff predating it and suits from after AoZ began.It's like it's embracing the chaotic, inconsistent and sometimes nonsensical nature of UC as a setting made up by so many people and it's treating that in a positive manner, simply enjoying that and having fun with the possibilities rather than getting hung up on any problems, perceived or real.
Looking at people's Kelderek customs has made feel like a bootlegs of the HG Hazels and GM Quel are sorely needed. I have some ideas, but I ain't paying scalper prices for them.
>>23500718I think there's a bootleg of Hazel Custom at least. Personally I'm waiting for the MP Owsla since it's the entire Advanced Hazel + Primrose in one bundle. That and Quel ought to cover everything you could need as far as bootlegs of existing kits go.
>>23500535This works really well, I can picture a squad of Hazels with various loadouts, with this guy being the dedicated fire support guy. Dom't modern mioitaries operate like this? 1 guy with a LMG per squad?
>>23500760>I think there's a bootleg of Hazel Custom at least.There isn't, I checked. There's a bootleg MG Hazel Custom, but not a HG bootleg, weirdly enough.
>>23500685Got any Hrududu 1 units to play around with? I'd love to see some kitbashes with it
Shekinah doesn't play nearly as well with Gaplant's hands, it turns out. Also tried to attach the booster pod onto the butt like in the drawings. Not quite as streamlined but I think there's something to this...>>23500806I could totally see a MP Owsla with that loadout, yeah. Match it up with a Rah II Hrair commander and third unit of your choice and it'd be a fun squad.>>23501620I fucking wish, probably my most wanted bootleg at this point and I sometimes check around if the legit kit is sold for a sane price anywhere.
>>23500760You have no idea how many primroses I've overspent for to upgrade my Hazels. I even put together an all white MP Owsla. A bootleg primrose at least would be nice
>>23502265lemme guess, like 5 or 6?I found one that's at a semi-reasonable price but I just know I'm gonna kick myself for it if it gets a bootleg within a year. Even if it's gonna be a bit crap it will still be a quarter of this price for sure. Alternatively I'm tempted by a GM III for a, uh, thing
>>23503261Ohhey it's the WfM MSV
Sublime~
>>23505877Is this "naked apron"?
>>23506222Really short apron at that. With high heels.
Titans colors. Lite.>but yo-Gustav Karl is fat and bulky, unlike other Federation stables like the Jegan or GM. It's almost round-ish like a Zeon design like the Dom or Gelgoog.By the time of HF, oppression within the Federation has been tuned to eleven. It takes half a dozen of Gustavs to take down just one Mafty Messer, but that doesn't matter. If Mafty takes them down, the Federation can quite literally send in the next wave. The skill of the pilots aren't important, what is important is that they are a part of the system.But then some chuckleFUCK is going to come to me saying >You're looking too deep into this bro.Fuck you.
I've been spending a lot of free time wondering about shit like this. I know this general has a clearer head than most of the rest of the board, so I'm gonna post some thoughts here and hope for some feedback.Take a look at this guy. He looks like a mess. And that's the point.They're supposed to look messy. Aesthetics doesn't really matter here, what matter is power to crush Spacenoids. And the Haze'n-thley is certainly powerful.I think this is the same for some, if not most, other AoZs like the Woundwort Gigantic or Queenly. Yeah, they look messy, but look at them. The Queenly is quite literally three TR-6s stapled together. That's rather unsightly, but that doesn't matter. Three MS = three generators = more power. And power is all that matters.
Look at the Penelope. King of messes. It looks bloated, unnecessarily so. It looks like it shouldn't even be able to move. Yet it does. And it's fast. And it can kill you.I think this is reflective of the Federation by HF's time. It's uncaring, it's unmoving, it looks like it shouldn't even be able to function beneath all the bureaucracy. But it does. And it can kill you if try to sabotage it.Lane is a middling pilot and a weak Newtype. But that doesn't matter. He's the main threat hunting Mafty not because he's good at it, but because he's the Federation chosen one. He doesn't need to pull a fucking Amuro, he just needs to do his job. The Federation (Penelope) will take care of the rest.
>>23506362but it's pretttyyyyy
>>23506362>I know this general has a clearer head than most of the rest of the boardDon't scroll three posts above yoursMore to the point, I disagree with your take. Take a look at picrel. The silhouette is very easily recognizable, the design is symmetrical in both the vertical and horizontal axis. The color separation is designed in a way that limbs of the same color don't overlap, preventing readability issues. I agree that some AoZ designs are intentionally all over the place, but the specific image you used is not one of them. And it fits the MS' lore. While most of the TR plan MS are basically jury rigged mix and match toys, HzII is pretty much made entirely out of bespoke parts. It's a cohesive design that stands on its own
>>23506362I wouldn't say Haze'n-thley II is messy. The opposite, if anything. It looks almost artistic, like a propaganda piece.A symbol. A Gundam.Because that's what it is - an embellished, idealized image of the White Devil. It's so different from basic Woundwort because that form wasn't part of its concept until it was forced into it by Titan high command. They wanted a "Gundam" - that is, a savior. A perfect, all-in-one machine that will solve all their problems, kill all their enemies and ask no questions.Nevermind the original Gundam wasn't that overwhelming. It's about the image of it, not the truth.Nevermind that the original's true power came from the pilot. He's a traitor to the Federation, Earth and really all civilization. So make the suit compensate for it. Stronger. Faster. Bigger. Better. More, more. More strength.Like you say power is all that matters. But ideas and images are power too. Sometimes, more so than conventional weapons.Regarding other TR-6s, I think they also have a certain unified nature to them despite - or because - of being made up of many different parts stuck together for this purpose. There's a sense of art in uniting them into a greater whole, of connecting them together. They may seem messy or incoherent but then at some point it all *clicks* together. Not so much in the sense of "they were always meant for this" but rather "they can be this, and other things, and so much more".BUNNyS is a Newtype system, it's only natural it connects machines the way Newtypes connect people.
>>23506456Yeah, it does look incredibly appealing. But I think it's because Fujioka is better at his job than Moriki. I don't know about the history behind HF, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Penelope's general messiness (even compared to the Xi) is something Tomino requested to better reflect the themes of the book.>>23506461Can't we meet somewhere in the middle? AoZ machines can look regal like in your pic. But you can see the irony, right? Titans machine made to look almost like an angel? Add in the fact that some of them are a bit iffy on the Geneva Convention like the Psycho Inle.Plus, consider how ReZeon goes on to use those machines themselves. The machines are destined to perpetuate Spacenoid suffering.
>>23508419El Diablo Blanco...
>>23508419I love her prehensile penis
>>23503261How long until AOZ links the TR plan to monoeye gundams? imo it's long overdue
>>23509124Good idea, let's bring the Sisquide into the fold
>>23509124Teeechnically there's been a connection for a while, some books have given Fiver and Fiver II an LRX-series model number which is associated with the Leipzig NT Lab whose only other known projects are the Sirene trio. That said it still could get connected a lot more. It feels like one of these things that would be referenced in a random Flag of Titans scribble back in the day but AFAIK there's no such cases. Nowadays I could totally see a volume either hinting at them in text or something outright using parts from them, like Dezpada's weapons which are composite shield boosters when you get down to it. Also Sisquede might as well have drum frame shoulder construction.
Does any kit use the smaller fuel tanks? Naturally the big fat one is Gaplant's, and the large ones are used in the Base Jabber Type 94 (and by extension FA Unicorn and a few other kits) but the smaller ones don't ring a bell. Could be a fun way of adding a bit more spice to kits.
>>23509362I think the smaller tanks are a Fujioka original. Not kit.
>>23509371nah nah, I remember somebody in this thread once figured out they're from something else, I just don't remember what and if it has a kit
>>23509376Wasn't it something obscure, like one of the Zaku III baclpacks?
>>23509654nta but it was Xeku Zwei I thinkat least the top ones look like a dead ringer, and they'd make more sense than Axis gearfor that matter the bottom tanks are pretty damn close too... Katoki the cheeky fuck used them in Unicorn, love it
>>23509658Oh yeah, it's them for sure. When in doubt, check Sentinel
>>23509659True that. I'd post some poignant and appropriate picture here but there's too dang many options to pick one.
new scripture just dropped
>>23509682What's the middle guy?
>>23509682>Rick Dom II with build minigun Glad someone else had a similar idea as me, although mine is on a Dom Tropen. It just werks
>>23509693left to rightrick dom IIIrick dom IIrick dom
wait a minute how come there is a Gelgoog III without a Gelgoog II? where did it go
>>23509719It is known.>>23509738Regelgu
>>23509747Best Dom.
>>23509747>Boss, is it safe to fill the armor panels with explosives? >Don't worry about it>Okay boss, but could we at least not line them up perfectly withthe knee and hip joints, the two most important joints in the MS?>No
>>23509738>>23509747Yep, as it turns out the Gelgoog III even keeps the same "J" letter code from the MS-14J Regelg that it was developed from.https://zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=9769>Zeon Mars wasn’t particularly satisfied with the modifications to the older suit and elected to develop a new successor to the Gelgoog based on design data from the ReGelgu. The mobile suit developed and completed based on these circumstances is the MS-14J.zm Gelgoog III (Zeon Mars version)Also there's probably a bit of numbers autism and national pride erections happening here, since they adopted the Zaku III and kept the name as-is even though they modified it for themselves. They also adopted and modified the Dreissen for their own use but renamed it Dom III. They just really wanted that brain endorphin release from thinking of themselves as the legitimate successors of Zabi-style Zeon.
>>23510390Imagine of they had put any effort at all into making the planet better or improving their industry and living conditions, instead of SPACE GUN
>>23510390Yeah it's their whole thing, despite being so distant from Earth they're the ones sticking closest to Old Principality's styling and traditions, trying to keep the spirit of it alive rather than letting it be changed by time and circumstances. It ties into the later RF units though, where at that point a similar approach is somewhat common among Spacenoids in general. Despite everything and everyone, Zaku is remembered as a defender of all Spacenoids against the Federation's oppression. It's a symbol of resistance and fighting for independence.>>23510418Alas, they are still remnants of a fascist regime and everything that entails.For what it's worth we know later on there was a technocrat faction within Mars Zeon, most likely remnants/evolution of ReZeon after it was defeated. They argued for focusing on developing Mars for a long-term sustainable Zeon nation but ultimately the militarists took over entirely and the Olympus Mons cannon plan was put into action.
The forgotten Kehaar II color variants...Side note but I wonder if we'll ever see a Kehaar II Rah. The shoulder mounts are taken by the flight gear and I dunno if there's space for it in the back either, but the leg mounting points are free, even on Advanced Kehaar. Just something to think about.
>>23506362What if the enemy just blows up the hangar and gives you no prep time?
>>23510390I understand the Zeon larping autism and respect it, but developmentally it's so weird to me that they adopt the technologically superior Zaku III and modify it to work better for them as a standard unit, only to then force the development of an improved Gelgoog to use at the same time. It makes little sense to me as the Gelgoog was meant to replace the Zaku II as a completely superior unit in all fields. As it seems in the lore, as far as I can tell at least, the Gelgoog III was designed to be an ace type use MS with plan on general mass production later that never came about, which is super weird after having just adopted the Zaku III which seems more than good enough. If they have the technology to force the development of the Gelgoog III, then why bother with the Zaku III at all? In UC of all settings it's very weird to not produce the better unit especially when you have the capabilities from the get go it seems. Perhaps I'm not accounting for a time lapse though, when does Gelgoog III development start compared to Zaku III adoption?
>>23510992Gelgoog III is a dedicated commander and ace unit, too expensive for mass production. Zaku III Type R is the dedicated grunt, simple reliable and versatile.
luv the mobile bit CBS
>>23510977Then it's a strategic and tactical failure, either due to flawed commands or simply overwhelming force. It is a genuine flaw, yes, but it's a known problem and one that has to be accounted for.BUNNyS can handle putting together a Queenly form out of the composite parts in a matter of minutes, mind you. So it's not like there's a few hour window it needs to prepare something like that. Inle is a more intricate and complicated matter, but that's why Queenly is around as a diet Inle essentially.It's also another matter if BUNNyS needs to devise a new configuration or loadout to counter a new enemy. It can analyze past encounters, learn and develop counters independently, but it's not all powerful. If the enemy can take it out entirely in one skirmish there's nothing that can learn, and likewise if it's immediately pursued and ran down there's no opportunity to process and implement the data.The more protracted a battle or war, the more time BUNNyS has to enhance its effectiveness. if it's sucker punched in one decisive strike it can't put that intelligence to use.
>>23506362It's funny how there's so many ways of Gundamizing the Gabhtley
I don't like how HZII's Gabthley lineage kinda gets lost in the Rah form.
>>23511569I like how it grows and evolves into something more than just not-Gabthley, especially when that thing is basically Titans Ex-S Gundam.Honestly Haze'n-thley II is in that weird sweet spot where it just keeps getting cooler the more you pack onto it, see cruise form and this.
>>23511654Ever closer to making Eva 01
there's bootlegs of the MG Hazel Custom Titans Colors available now
>>23512123neatthough I'm waiting for the Owsla bootleg if I'm gonna get a 1/100 Hazel at all. IIRC the bootleg's runners include leftovers from Primrose so I imagine that's on the way
Since there's still no new volume and discussions are kinda sporadic ( is it just me or threads with the MS girls get less attention?) I don't feel too bad posting more of my trash here.Enough Keldereking and enough Hazeling, it's time for something new. By which I mean rearranging the parts some more.Let's say this is a mix of Hazel and Kelderek, taking some bits and concepts from both and carrying seemingly rather random gear. Some lost to history, some familiar.Meet [Barghest] of the "Black Dog" Test Team. Affectionately(?) called "Mutt One" by the crew and pilots.Due to destruction of most TR Plan data and general post-war chaos no confirmed records exist, save for several reports of encountering it by the AEUG culminating in its destruction circa November UC 0087.Decided I love the G-Line boosters on the legs, naturally for the time being this is all tentative, both the blurb and the construction. I'd like to use this as basis for any future bashes but I'm not married to it or anything.
This is [Shuck], similarly called "Mutt Two". Unlike [Barghest], some Titan records remain, documenting its activity from April to October UC 0087 when it was lost with its pilot during testing due to unspecified "equipment malfunction" and "software feedback overload". SSD investigation revealed no leads as of this point.I promise I did not just stick random leftovers together here. Trust.
Xeku Eins referred to as "Holy fuck this one is so cool" by the "Black Dog" team.Not much else to say here.
lastly just a little food for thought from what I observed. It's very easy to just detach the grenade launcher and side armor from Palace Athene's beam gun, and what remains works pretty nicely with all sorts of shields for a more classic Full Armor-style double beam rifle. A few options I tried here, is this anything?
>>23512186Love this guy,gives me superhero vibes>Threads with MS girls get less attentionThat's because we only use them for OPs during content droughts, after we've used the latest illust once or twice>>23512190Hmmm... diphalia>>23512196Least cool to me desu, the unused latches stick out like a sore thumb and the gun doesn't fit the aesthetic
>>23512202These are all great, do they actually plug rogether or are they just laying on top of each other?
>>23512759nta but in fairness Xeku is always depicted with these shoulder latches, even if there's nothing attached
>>23512759Thank you>Love this guy,gives me superhero vibesI can see it, I think if I could give it longer shoulders it'd have a GP01 Full Burnen impression too. I'm myself surprised how much the silhouette changes with the high heels, the thick as fuck Quel legs look almost sleek now.There's a secret "charm point" that's not very visible on the pic - it's using a Gaplant beam saber.>That's because we only use them for OPs during content droughts, after we've used the latest illust once or twiceActually a really good point there>diphaliaPrehensile, no less.>the unused latches stick out like a sore thumb and the gun doesn't fit the aestheticLike the other anon said they're always there on the linearts and everything, plus I'm a little scared to take them off too often because they're surprisingly fragile. Fair enough on the Shekinah here, I'm mostly just still amazed it fits in the hand so snugly. Also a proof of concept on sticking Palace Athene's grenade launcher elsewhere.>>23512761just some sticky tack (my second favorite sticky white substance) for comparing them. It'd be easy enough to add a peg, there's a lot of room for it, but it'd need to be purpose made for one shield choice because they all need to connect at a different spot to make everything else fit together
>>23513575There is a non-zero chance of this anon having hotglued a gundam
I kinda want to get a gigantic arm unit...
>>23513575Both of those customs are canon.
>>23513842Good thing there are bootleg Gigantic Arms Units available then. Weird how Chang will bootleg that but not the Hrududu. Or how there are two different Woundwort bootleg manufacturers but no HG Hazel bootlegs. They made it a MG but no HG.Chang, like Bandai, works in mysterious ways.
>>23513845really the weirdest thing is there's gigantic arms but not Primrose or Hazel Owslathere's no way of getting the gigantic arm runners other than the Hazel Owsla kit, or the Gaplant I guess but I'm pretty sure the bootleg came out before that
>>23513847The Gigantic Arms come on their own separate runners on the Hazel and Gaplant kits. Chang just did his thing. But yeah a Hazel Owsla bootleg is probably the one I wish for the most. The aftermarket cost of that Mass Production Unit PB kit is ludicrous.
>>23513850they're on their own runners, yeah, but my point is there's no way to get these runners except with that kit
does anyone know how these images from the FoT mook were made? obviously they're using actual models, but I mean the editing with all the effects and lightning
>>23513897The obvious answer is a proper lighting setup
>>23514211sounds like effortdamn
>>23513843domo arigato Fujioka-sensei I am expecting bunny girl art by the end of the week
>>23514570Look up "three point lighting", it's really not as complex as it seems
>>23513842Not really the same thing but this inspired me to play a little with big bottom smol top Woundy ideas. Fun fact: the shield and the Mk-V rifle are the only legit parts here, and the whole thing is even flimsier than legit Woundwort kitbashes so please pardon the even worse than usual quality.
>>23517066>big bottom small topPhrasing
>>23517127of course it's also nice when they're both bigagain the poor girl is barely holding together, only so much I can do here
>>23517242>Umm... excuse me...
