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(Advanced) Hizack-chan (Rah II Hrair) is helping us look for Volume 102

--useful links--
https://hobby.dengeki.com/title_re-boot/
>official Reboot illustration list, missing first few entries

https://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/12/mobile-suit-z-gundam-advance-of-zeta.html
>scans of some of the earlier entries

https://hobby.dengeki.com/comic_novel/19559/
>samples of the ongoing manga

https://m.weibo.cn/u/6199800362?
>weibo page of Watership 4.5, a fan circle that makes 3d models and prints of many AoZ designs. Good insight into how they function.

http://www.inask.net/blog-category-144.html
>another page with their stuff

https://archive.org/details/Advance_of_Z_The_Flag_of_Titans_Vol.1/mode/2up
>internet archive has scans of The Flag of Titans compiled in 6 volumes, this is the first one

https://jim-quail.github.io/aoz-reboot-translations
>WIP translation project for AoZ Reboot, beginning with Dengeki entries

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Still the latest volume, Universal Conversion Development Machine
https://hobby.dengeki.com/aoz/illust/reboot82/

And reminder we've had a Hazel Hrair teaser and the manga hiatus might be ending soon.
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Should we now call this form [Queenly Hrair]?
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I really should have thought of this sooner. If that's how the beam smart gun showed up, it's only natural to have the machine gun mounted on the pod too. Not the worst look I think, though I really like having it carried in hand.
>>23500322
Guess so? We somehow STILL don't have an official name for it beyond just "Queenly" which doesn't fully reflect its specs, so yeah adding Hrair does the trick for now.
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Having the Hazel Kelderek be a testbed for various OYW equipment is such a genius idea. The OYW has suck a large variety of frankly weird shit to go around because so many designers and authors wanted to add their own OCs to the setting that it makes perfect sense for there to be a perfectly average Joe MS that tests all these equipment in the post war period to see what was genuinely good and worth looking further into and what was just some wunderwaffe.

This is a far cry from the spec ops Hazel everyone imagined the Kelderek to be at first but hey this is straight up better.
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>>23500632
>spec ops Hazel
in a way it's still that as well, Black Hares are still a black ops unit. It's just part of that is developing the software for TR Plan and other testing projects
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>uh so I made this design that just uses bits and pieces of designs made by other artists
how is this not theft
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don't engage trolls
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>>23500640
don't be KWAB about this buddy
it's actually an ingenious idea but it makes one ponder
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Considering the hand itself is roughly twice the size that Shekinah's made for it's holding onto it remarkably well. And it's surprisingly neat how the rear of the gun fits in so well with the forearm design.
Also attempt at a Xeku Eins Rah II via the booster pod connection. Something about the proportions isn't right, the TR-6 booster pod ends up too high and too far away to play nice with having the wing units clamp onto the shoulders. Not unsolvable, but a bit awkward and just a consequence of transitioning from 2D to 3D. Slightly different proportions or some clever joints could get around it I reckon.
>>23500632
There's something really charming about Kelderek getting equipped with gear from both random obscure stuff predating it and suits from after AoZ began.
It's like it's embracing the chaotic, inconsistent and sometimes nonsensical nature of UC as a setting made up by so many people and it's treating that in a positive manner, simply enjoying that and having fun with the possibilities rather than getting hung up on any problems, perceived or real.
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Looking at people's Kelderek customs has made feel like a bootlegs of the HG Hazels and GM Quel are sorely needed. I have some ideas, but I ain't paying scalper prices for them.
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>>23500718
I think there's a bootleg of Hazel Custom at least. Personally I'm waiting for the MP Owsla since it's the entire Advanced Hazel + Primrose in one bundle. That and Quel ought to cover everything you could need as far as bootlegs of existing kits go.
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>>23500535
This works really well, I can picture a squad of Hazels with various loadouts, with this guy being the dedicated fire support guy. Dom't modern mioitaries operate like this? 1 guy with a LMG per squad?
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>>23500760
>I think there's a bootleg of Hazel Custom at least.
There isn't, I checked. There's a bootleg MG Hazel Custom, but not a HG bootleg, weirdly enough.
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>>23500685
Got any Hrududu 1 units to play around with? I'd love to see some kitbashes with it
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Shekinah doesn't play nearly as well with Gaplant's hands, it turns out. Also tried to attach the booster pod onto the butt like in the drawings. Not quite as streamlined but I think there's something to this...
>>23500806
I could totally see a MP Owsla with that loadout, yeah. Match it up with a Rah II Hrair commander and third unit of your choice and it'd be a fun squad.
>>23501620
I fucking wish, probably my most wanted bootleg at this point and I sometimes check around if the legit kit is sold for a sane price anywhere.
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>>23500760
You have no idea how many primroses I've overspent for to upgrade my Hazels. I even put together an all white MP Owsla. A bootleg primrose at least would be nice
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>>23502265
lemme guess, like 5 or 6?
I found one that's at a semi-reasonable price but I just know I'm gonna kick myself for it if it gets a bootleg within a year. Even if it's gonna be a bit crap it will still be a quarter of this price for sure. Alternatively I'm tempted by a GM III for a, uh, thing
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>>23503261
Ohhey it's the WfM MSV
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Sublime~
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>>23505877
Is this "naked apron"?
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>>23506222
Really short apron at that. With high heels.
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Titans colors. Lite.
>but yo-
Gustav Karl is fat and bulky, unlike other Federation stables like the Jegan or GM. It's almost round-ish like a Zeon design like the Dom or Gelgoog.

By the time of HF, oppression within the Federation has been tuned to eleven. It takes half a dozen of Gustavs to take down just one Mafty Messer, but that doesn't matter. If Mafty takes them down, the Federation can quite literally send in the next wave. The skill of the pilots aren't important, what is important is that they are a part of the system.

But then some chuckleFUCK is going to come to me saying
>You're looking too deep into this bro.
Fuck you.
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I've been spending a lot of free time wondering about shit like this. I know this general has a clearer head than most of the rest of the board, so I'm gonna post some thoughts here and hope for some feedback.

Take a look at this guy. He looks like a mess. And that's the point.

They're supposed to look messy. Aesthetics doesn't really matter here, what matter is power to crush Spacenoids. And the Haze'n-thley is certainly powerful.

I think this is the same for some, if not most, other AoZs like the Woundwort Gigantic or Queenly. Yeah, they look messy, but look at them. The Queenly is quite literally three TR-6s stapled together. That's rather unsightly, but that doesn't matter. Three MS = three generators = more power. And power is all that matters.
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Look at the Penelope. King of messes.

It looks bloated, unnecessarily so. It looks like it shouldn't even be able to move. Yet it does. And it's fast. And it can kill you.

I think this is reflective of the Federation by HF's time. It's uncaring, it's unmoving, it looks like it shouldn't even be able to function beneath all the bureaucracy. But it does. And it can kill you if try to sabotage it.

Lane is a middling pilot and a weak Newtype. But that doesn't matter. He's the main threat hunting Mafty not because he's good at it, but because he's the Federation chosen one. He doesn't need to pull a fucking Amuro, he just needs to do his job. The Federation (Penelope) will take care of the rest.
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>>23506362
but it's pretttyyyyy
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>>23506362
>I know this general has a clearer head than most of the rest of the board
Don't scroll three posts above yours

More to the point, I disagree with your take. Take a look at picrel. The silhouette is very easily recognizable, the design is symmetrical in both the vertical and horizontal axis. The color separation is designed in a way that limbs of the same color don't overlap, preventing readability issues. I agree that some AoZ designs are intentionally all over the place, but the specific image you used is not one of them. And it fits the MS' lore. While most of the TR plan MS are basically jury rigged mix and match toys, HzII is pretty much made entirely out of bespoke parts. It's a cohesive design that stands on its own
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>>23506362
I wouldn't say Haze'n-thley II is messy. The opposite, if anything. It looks almost artistic, like a propaganda piece.
A symbol.
A Gundam.
Because that's what it is - an embellished, idealized image of the White Devil. It's so different from basic Woundwort because that form wasn't part of its concept until it was forced into it by Titan high command. They wanted a "Gundam" - that is, a savior. A perfect, all-in-one machine that will solve all their problems, kill all their enemies and ask no questions.
Nevermind the original Gundam wasn't that overwhelming. It's about the image of it, not the truth.
Nevermind that the original's true power came from the pilot. He's a traitor to the Federation, Earth and really all civilization.
So make the suit compensate for it. Stronger. Faster. Bigger. Better. More, more. More strength.
Like you say power is all that matters. But ideas and images are power too. Sometimes, more so than conventional weapons.

Regarding other TR-6s, I think they also have a certain unified nature to them despite - or because - of being made up of many different parts stuck together for this purpose. There's a sense of art in uniting them into a greater whole, of connecting them together. They may seem messy or incoherent but then at some point it all *clicks* together. Not so much in the sense of "they were always meant for this" but rather "they can be this, and other things, and so much more".
BUNNyS is a Newtype system, it's only natural it connects machines the way Newtypes connect people.
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>>23506456
Yeah, it does look incredibly appealing. But I think it's because Fujioka is better at his job than Moriki. I don't know about the history behind HF, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Penelope's general messiness (even compared to the Xi) is something Tomino requested to better reflect the themes of the book.

>>23506461
Can't we meet somewhere in the middle? AoZ machines can look regal like in your pic.

But you can see the irony, right? Titans machine made to look almost like an angel? Add in the fact that some of them are a bit iffy on the Geneva Convention like the Psycho Inle.

Plus, consider how ReZeon goes on to use those machines themselves. The machines are destined to perpetuate Spacenoid suffering.
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>>23508419
El Diablo Blanco...
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>>23508419
I love her prehensile penis
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>>23503261
How long until AOZ links the TR plan to monoeye gundams? imo it's long overdue
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>>23509124
Good idea, let's bring the Sisquide into the fold
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>>23509124
Teeechnically there's been a connection for a while, some books have given Fiver and Fiver II an LRX-series model number which is associated with the Leipzig NT Lab whose only other known projects are the Sirene trio.
That said it still could get connected a lot more. It feels like one of these things that would be referenced in a random Flag of Titans scribble back in the day but AFAIK there's no such cases. Nowadays I could totally see a volume either hinting at them in text or something outright using parts from them, like Dezpada's weapons which are composite shield boosters when you get down to it. Also Sisquede might as well have drum frame shoulder construction.
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Does any kit use the smaller fuel tanks? Naturally the big fat one is Gaplant's, and the large ones are used in the Base Jabber Type 94 (and by extension FA Unicorn and a few other kits) but the smaller ones don't ring a bell. Could be a fun way of adding a bit more spice to kits.
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>>23509362
I think the smaller tanks are a Fujioka original. Not kit.
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>>23509371
nah nah, I remember somebody in this thread once figured out they're from something else, I just don't remember what and if it has a kit
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>>23509376
Wasn't it something obscure, like one of the Zaku III baclpacks?
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>>23509654
nta but it was Xeku Zwei I think
at least the top ones look like a dead ringer, and they'd make more sense than Axis gear
for that matter the bottom tanks are pretty damn close too... Katoki the cheeky fuck used them in Unicorn, love it
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>>23509658
Oh yeah, it's them for sure. When in doubt, check Sentinel
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>>23509659
True that. I'd post some poignant and appropriate picture here but there's too dang many options to pick one.
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new scripture just dropped
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>>23509682
What's the middle guy?
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>>23509682
>Rick Dom II with build minigun
Glad someone else had a similar idea as me, although mine is on a Dom Tropen. It just werks
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>>23509693
left to right

rick dom III
rick dom II
rick dom
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wait a minute
how come there is a Gelgoog III without a Gelgoog II? where did it go
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>>23509719
It is known.
>>23509738
Regelgu
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>>23509747
Best Dom.
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>>23509747
>Boss, is it safe to fill the armor panels with explosives?
>Don't worry about it
>Okay boss, but could we at least not line them up perfectly withthe knee and hip joints, the two most important joints in the MS?
>No
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>>23509738
>>23509747
Yep, as it turns out the Gelgoog III even keeps the same "J" letter code from the MS-14J Regelg that it was developed from.

https://zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=9769
>Zeon Mars wasn’t particularly satisfied with the modifications to the older suit and elected to develop a new successor to the Gelgoog based on design data from the ReGelgu. The mobile suit developed and completed based on these circumstances is the MS-14J.zm Gelgoog III (Zeon Mars version)

Also there's probably a bit of numbers autism and national pride erections happening here, since they adopted the Zaku III and kept the name as-is even though they modified it for themselves. They also adopted and modified the Dreissen for their own use but renamed it Dom III. They just really wanted that brain endorphin release from thinking of themselves as the legitimate successors of Zabi-style Zeon.
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>>23510390
Imagine of they had put any effort at all into making the planet better or improving their industry and living conditions, instead of SPACE GUN
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>>23510390
Yeah it's their whole thing, despite being so distant from Earth they're the ones sticking closest to Old Principality's styling and traditions, trying to keep the spirit of it alive rather than letting it be changed by time and circumstances. It ties into the later RF units though, where at that point a similar approach is somewhat common among Spacenoids in general. Despite everything and everyone, Zaku is remembered as a defender of all Spacenoids against the Federation's oppression. It's a symbol of resistance and fighting for independence.
>>23510418
Alas, they are still remnants of a fascist regime and everything that entails.
For what it's worth we know later on there was a technocrat faction within Mars Zeon, most likely remnants/evolution of ReZeon after it was defeated. They argued for focusing on developing Mars for a long-term sustainable Zeon nation but ultimately the militarists took over entirely and the Olympus Mons cannon plan was put into action.
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The forgotten Kehaar II color variants...
Side note but I wonder if we'll ever see a Kehaar II Rah. The shoulder mounts are taken by the flight gear and I dunno if there's space for it in the back either, but the leg mounting points are free, even on Advanced Kehaar. Just something to think about.
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>>23506362
What if the enemy just blows up the hangar and gives you no prep time?
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>>23510390
I understand the Zeon larping autism and respect it, but developmentally it's so weird to me that they adopt the technologically superior Zaku III and modify it to work better for them as a standard unit, only to then force the development of an improved Gelgoog to use at the same time. It makes little sense to me as the Gelgoog was meant to replace the Zaku II as a completely superior unit in all fields. As it seems in the lore, as far as I can tell at least, the Gelgoog III was designed to be an ace type use MS with plan on general mass production later that never came about, which is super weird after having just adopted the Zaku III which seems more than good enough. If they have the technology to force the development of the Gelgoog III, then why bother with the Zaku III at all? In UC of all settings it's very weird to not produce the better unit especially when you have the capabilities from the get go it seems. Perhaps I'm not accounting for a time lapse though, when does Gelgoog III development start compared to Zaku III adoption?
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>>23510992
Gelgoog III is a dedicated commander and ace unit, too expensive for mass production. Zaku III Type R is the dedicated grunt, simple reliable and versatile.
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luv the mobile bit CBS
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>>23510977
Then it's a strategic and tactical failure, either due to flawed commands or simply overwhelming force. It is a genuine flaw, yes, but it's a known problem and one that has to be accounted for.
BUNNyS can handle putting together a Queenly form out of the composite parts in a matter of minutes, mind you. So it's not like there's a few hour window it needs to prepare something like that. Inle is a more intricate and complicated matter, but that's why Queenly is around as a diet Inle essentially.
It's also another matter if BUNNyS needs to devise a new configuration or loadout to counter a new enemy. It can analyze past encounters, learn and develop counters independently, but it's not all powerful. If the enemy can take it out entirely in one skirmish there's nothing that can learn, and likewise if it's immediately pursued and ran down there's no opportunity to process and implement the data.
The more protracted a battle or war, the more time BUNNyS has to enhance its effectiveness. if it's sucker punched in one decisive strike it can't put that intelligence to use.
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>>23506362
It's funny how there's so many ways of Gundamizing the Gabhtley
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I don't like how HZII's Gabthley lineage kinda gets lost in the Rah form.
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>>23511569
I like how it grows and evolves into something more than just not-Gabthley, especially when that thing is basically Titans Ex-S Gundam.
Honestly Haze'n-thley II is in that weird sweet spot where it just keeps getting cooler the more you pack onto it, see cruise form and this.
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>>23511654
Ever closer to making Eva 01
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there's bootlegs of the MG Hazel Custom Titans Colors available now
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>>23512123
neat
though I'm waiting for the Owsla bootleg if I'm gonna get a 1/100 Hazel at all. IIRC the bootleg's runners include leftovers from Primrose so I imagine that's on the way
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Since there's still no new volume and discussions are kinda sporadic ( is it just me or threads with the MS girls get less attention?) I don't feel too bad posting more of my trash here.
Enough Keldereking and enough Hazeling, it's time for something new. By which I mean rearranging the parts some more.
Let's say this is a mix of Hazel and Kelderek, taking some bits and concepts from both and carrying seemingly rather random gear. Some lost to history, some familiar.
Meet [Barghest] of the "Black Dog" Test Team. Affectionately(?) called "Mutt One" by the crew and pilots.
Due to destruction of most TR Plan data and general post-war chaos no confirmed records exist, save for several reports of encountering it by the AEUG culminating in its destruction circa November UC 0087.

Decided I love the G-Line boosters on the legs, naturally for the time being this is all tentative, both the blurb and the construction. I'd like to use this as basis for any future bashes but I'm not married to it or anything.
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This is [Shuck], similarly called "Mutt Two".
Unlike [Barghest], some Titan records remain, documenting its activity from April to October UC 0087 when it was lost with its pilot during testing due to unspecified "equipment malfunction" and "software feedback overload". SSD investigation revealed no leads as of this point.

I promise I did not just stick random leftovers together here. Trust.
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Xeku Eins referred to as "Holy fuck this one is so cool" by the "Black Dog" team.
Not much else to say here.
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lastly just a little food for thought from what I observed. It's very easy to just detach the grenade launcher and side armor from Palace Athene's beam gun, and what remains works pretty nicely with all sorts of shields for a more classic Full Armor-style double beam rifle. A few options I tried here, is this anything?
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>>23512186
Love this guy,gives me superhero vibes
>Threads with MS girls get less attention
That's because we only use them for OPs during content droughts, after we've used the latest illust once or twice

>>23512190
Hmmm... diphalia
>>23512196
Least cool to me desu, the unused latches stick out like a sore thumb and the gun doesn't fit the aesthetic
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>>23512202
These are all great, do they actually plug rogether or are they just laying on top of each other?
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>>23512759
nta but in fairness Xeku is always depicted with these shoulder latches, even if there's nothing attached
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>>23512759
Thank you
>Love this guy,gives me superhero vibes
I can see it, I think if I could give it longer shoulders it'd have a GP01 Full Burnen impression too. I'm myself surprised how much the silhouette changes with the high heels, the thick as fuck Quel legs look almost sleek now.
There's a secret "charm point" that's not very visible on the pic - it's using a Gaplant beam saber.
>That's because we only use them for OPs during content droughts, after we've used the latest illust once or twice
Actually a really good point there
>diphalia
Prehensile, no less.
>the unused latches stick out like a sore thumb and the gun doesn't fit the aesthetic
Like the other anon said they're always there on the linearts and everything, plus I'm a little scared to take them off too often because they're surprisingly fragile. Fair enough on the Shekinah here, I'm mostly just still amazed it fits in the hand so snugly. Also a proof of concept on sticking Palace Athene's grenade launcher elsewhere.
>>23512761
just some sticky tack (my second favorite sticky white substance) for comparing them. It'd be easy enough to add a peg, there's a lot of room for it, but it'd need to be purpose made for one shield choice because they all need to connect at a different spot to make everything else fit together
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>>23513575
There is a non-zero chance of this anon having hotglued a gundam
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I kinda want to get a gigantic arm unit...
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>>23513575
Both of those customs are canon.
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>>23513842
Good thing there are bootleg Gigantic Arms Units available then. Weird how Chang will bootleg that but not the Hrududu. Or how there are two different Woundwort bootleg manufacturers but no HG Hazel bootlegs. They made it a MG but no HG.

Chang, like Bandai, works in mysterious ways.
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>>23513845
really the weirdest thing is there's gigantic arms but not Primrose or Hazel Owsla
there's no way of getting the gigantic arm runners other than the Hazel Owsla kit, or the Gaplant I guess but I'm pretty sure the bootleg came out before that
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>>23513847
The Gigantic Arms come on their own separate runners on the Hazel and Gaplant kits. Chang just did his thing.

But yeah a Hazel Owsla bootleg is probably the one I wish for the most. The aftermarket cost of that Mass Production Unit PB kit is ludicrous.
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>>23513850
they're on their own runners, yeah, but my point is there's no way to get these runners except with that kit
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does anyone know how these images from the FoT mook were made? obviously they're using actual models, but I mean the editing with all the effects and lightning
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>>23513897
The obvious answer is a proper lighting setup
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>>23514211
sounds like effort
damn
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>>23513843
domo arigato Fujioka-sensei I am expecting bunny girl art by the end of the week
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>>23514570
Look up "three point lighting", it's really not as complex as it seems
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>>23513842
Not really the same thing but this inspired me to play a little with big bottom smol top Woundy ideas. Fun fact: the shield and the Mk-V rifle are the only legit parts here, and the whole thing is even flimsier than legit Woundwort kitbashes so please pardon the even worse than usual quality.
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>>23517066
>big bottom small top
Phrasing
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>>23517127
of course it's also nice when they're both big
again the poor girl is barely holding together, only so much I can do here
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>>23517242
>Umm... excuse me...
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Who’s this guy?
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>>23517422
ReHaze
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>>23517422
That's ReHaize, an upgraded Hazenthley II that serves as ReZeon's Queen's personal unit. Among other things, it's got psycommu and enough thrust to get to orbit by itself.
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>>23517448
>enough thrust to get to orbit by itself.
In fairness that is on Mars.
In fairness to in fairness, Haze'n-thley II Rah can do that as well on Earth.
In fairness to in fairness to in fairness, so can Ex-S.
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>>23517451
Keep in mind big girl is loaded down with a lot more shit than base Hazenthley II. And I haven't looked at the dates, but doesn't she predate the Ex-S. Sentinel number are nuts anyways, doesn't the Ex-S have more thrust than the V2 or some similarly ridiculous statistic?
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>>23517455
>Keep in mind big girl is loaded down with a lot more shit than base Hazenthley II.
True, she's definitely a level above it even if it's conceptually nothing groundbreaking.
>And I haven't looked at the dates, but doesn't she predate the Ex-S.
Task Force Alpha with S Gundam and upgrade parts in tow deploys roughly one day after the colony laser battle and official end of the Titans
By that point the Haze'n-thley II that would be modified into ReHaze is on its way to Mars but probably hasn't reached it yet, to speak nothing of the ReZeon Founding War and then modifying it into the symbol of the nation.
>Sentinel number are nuts anyways, doesn't the Ex-S have more thrust than the V2 or some similarly ridiculous statistic?
Yeah the catalog specs are nutty and best not treated too seriously. That's not exclusive to Sentinel either. I think it's a different matter when it's a descriptive statement instead - doesn't matter what exactly the numbers are, saying "Ex-S can leave the atmosphere unassisted" conveys it has beeeg fucking thrust and hints at strategic potential. Saying it with Haze'n-thley II does the same thing while additionally referencing Sentinel since it's already the Titans equivalent to Ex-S anyway.
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>>23517474
>Task Force Alpha with S Gundam and upgrade parts in tow deploys roughly one day after the colony laser battle and official end of the Titans
Wait what? I thought it was like, a couple years later. Was the entirety of the Zeta Plus line developed in a week or something? How are Hummingbirds and the Deep Striker a thing when they're barely getting atmospheric flight capable MS going during Zeta?
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>>23517487
The entirety of Sentinel happens before ZZ even shows up in its own show. That's why when Axis Zeon shows up to assist/use New Desides they're not in active war with the Federation. For that matter the Flag of Titans courtroom plot also occurs at that time.
Zeta Plus seems to have begun roughly 2-3 months before that, not long after the Dakar speech.
Deep Striker and Hummingbird are only paper plans that were never produced.
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paper specs are an utter meme made by designers who are artistically gifted but technologically retarded
pretty sure the specs of anything from 0083 put the Zeta/ZZ era stuff to shame
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>>23517513
I'll never get used to breakneck development times in Gundam. Like, okay, project V took about a year to be finished if we assume they started it just as Zeon started the war, and new MS seem to take a year or so to be developed. Already like 20 times faster than IRL but I guess you have to compress the timeline. But then you get shit like 5(ish) Zeta mass production variants being developed in the span of like 2 months? Do Anaheim engineers subsist on a diet of 100% panzerschokolade for every meal?
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>>23517448
Oh it’s the counterpart to the Super Inle
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>>23517538
super Inle? You mean Psycho Inle? or is there some other variant?
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>>23517549
The one that’s amphibious that the other Mineva clone uses
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>>23517527
I just learned to take it as-is, for me that's more fun than endlessly nitpicking it. I figure that this is a sci-fi setting after all and not only because of weaponry. Manufacturing technologies, research and development processes, organizational structures and whatever else can play a part in this are all much, much more advanced than anything we have today. Take whatever is the absolute most cutting edge today, give it another century or more of progress and add a little extra since it's military tech and there you go, developing and prototyping new weaponry can be a matter of months or less.
>>23517538
>>23517554
Assuming you mean the one at the (currently) end of the manga, AFAIK the usual go-to name is Gran Inle since it has a giant giver unit but that's still unofficial. And we have no idea if the not-Purus have anything to do with Mineva, or hell if they are Purus at all.
Either way I wouldn't really call them counterparts, they're both symbols of ReZeon. (Wings of) Inle were the lynchpin of the entire founding war and ReHaze is the queen's custom fancy schmamcy sportscar like Sazabi is to Char.
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>>23517519
IIRC 0080 also had some bizarre numbers.
Weird thing is I remember one mecha artist talking about how he presented his design and then a guy was measuring the thruster size on the line art to calculate what specs it should have. I think that was in the 90s, but at least suggests it's not always the artist choosing it and there sometimes there's an internal logic to it, even if it might still be entirely divorced from reality and common sense.
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>>23517615
measuring thruster size is a retarded metric, that's like guessing a car's speed by how big the tires are
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>>23517615
>You now remember the Gelgoog J has more thrust power than the Crossbone Gundam
WTF were those zeeks smoking?
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>>23517975
well, crossbone is tiny, so a little thrust goes a long way I guess
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I wonder if it's okay to use Hrududu II wing units as landing gear or if it's frowned upon in polite company
>>23519264
That Hygogg has so much wacky stuff I don't know if it can still be called a Hygogg
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>>23519286
Ask the maintenance crew. I doubt it'll count as polite company
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You know about Queenly's claws, don't you /aoz/ anon?
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>>23521282
Claws? What, you mean the CSBs?
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>>23521286
>They don't know about the claws
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>>23521293
I'm not even sure of which Queenly version this is desu, there's so many
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>>23521311
that is just bog standard regular Queenly
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>>23521335
so what are the claws for? Mating? Do we even have any pictures of them being used? Hard to tell what they even look like
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>>23521349
For handholding with her big sister, of course!

And no we have no other pictures of them or any description whatsoever. All we know is that they're still there on the revised Reboot art but not on the ReZeon colored version unless they're obscured by the Daedalus unit, the Full Armor form doesn't have them, and if you squint they're kinda sorta maybe a bit similar to Haze'n-thley II's leg claws with longer blades.
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would you look at that
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Mobility scooter Hizack
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>>23521635
Hotwheels Hizack
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>>23521635
Tactical rubber bands
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What got you guys into AoZ? I love mecha designs with sticks for legs and no feet that float above the ground instead of walking or standing, so the second I saw the Woundwort I fell in love
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>>23522765
I wonder what the venn diagram for AoZ fans and Zone of the Enders fans looks like. They're both about high heeled slender dickgirl mecha powered by concerningly self-aware computers and/or powersources.
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>>23522765
It's hard for me to pinpoint it, honestly. I've basically dived into Gundam head-first knowing from the start I'm gonna love it, and inevitably I encountered AoZ while familiarizing myself with non-animated works. Some of the designs felt like a bit much for me at the start, but they began to grow on me bit by bit. Still, I was only really "aware they're cool" rather than "into AoZ" properly.
That came when I started putting in the effort to learn and familiarize myself with the suits, their backgrounds, the story and the themes and yada yada yada. That's when I started liking it more and more and more and now here we are a few years later with me thinking about AoZ just about every day.
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Quite the gallant looking suit, I won't lie. The heat blade rifle helps enhance the knightly look (and makes it relevant for this thread) but Pale Rider Cavalry itself is a lot more elegant than I thought based on pictures.
The kit itself is kinda all over the place in quality, partly as a bootleg and part because of the engineering, but overall it's very nice. What's more, the bootleg comes with the DII parts so combine that with the shitton of leftover regular Pale Rider pieces and there's a lot of easy kitbash fuel. For example, there's a second set of Cavalry/DII type shoulders...
Also, while I couldn't get a good pic showing it off Pale Rider has zero trouble holding the CBS - only fitting it's a good match for composite weapons really. Sometime soon I'll try to stick the Hrududu II on it like I did with G-Line.
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>>23524005
The Pale Rider Cavalry bootleg doesn't come with the leg missile pods of the Ground Type Pale Rider does it?

Also that does look sick. Give it the double shield booster setup from the Hazel Rah Second Form.
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>>23524026
>The Pale Rider Cavalry bootleg doesn't come with the leg missile pods of the Ground Type Pale Rider does it?
I fucking wish. That and the neat backpack/rear waist weapon rack are the main reason I'm planning to get the regular PR bootleg too at some point. But that'll probably be in a while, I have a bit of a backlog and a bootleg Asshimar on the way too.
>Also that does look sick. Give it the double shield booster setup from the Hazel Rah Second Form.
Thankees. I'd love to but I don't have the regular Hrududu for that sadly. Thinking about it, I might be able to finagle something with that double shield joint from Hrairoo but it won't be the same.
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>>23524044
Yeah, the lack of a cheap readily available Hrududu bootleg hurts. I've tried everything I could think of to get my hands on Long Blade Rifle parts on the cheap and nothing is really all that cheap. Weird how there are Gigantic Arms bootlegs but not a Hrududu one.

Really, the lack of cheap AoZ bootlegs in general hurts. We've got the Woundwort, we got the Gigantic Arms, we got the Hrududu II, we got both the Kehaar II rifle and the MS itself. Where is the rest, Zhang? There's a market here.

Personally, a Hazel bootleg that comes with 2 rifles and 3 shield boosters would be the dream. Literally, I've dreamt of this the other night.
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>>23509719
>>23509734
Rick Dom III is basically just a modified Driessen
I'm surprised no one has designed a Dom IV
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>>23524328
I mean, if you can count Dreissen as Dom III, then RF Dom is basically Dom IV
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>>23524473
This. Also, cool fact: The RF Desert Dom uses the same backpack equipment as the Reben Wolf
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>>23499534
She looks like a literal Slut and a WHORE. Did she graduate from Anaheim Electronics School of Gifted Youngster WHORES?!
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>>23524560
giwtwm
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>>23524005
>cavalry
Now you got me thinking about an AoZ version of Kimaris. Basically a fuckton of thrusters and a jousting lance. Could even use the hoverpacks like the gran unit or Rosette/Dandelion for a ground variant. Problem is, I don't think there's anything in the TTT arsenal that would qualify as a jousting lance
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>>23524560
>*naheim
Don't lump the TTT with those grubbers. The Titans would never develop horeible warcrime machines to sell off to the highest bidder. They do it purely for the love of the game.
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>>23524859
You're just going to have to steal some more from the G-Line arsenal
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Decided to put all these together, the image quality should still be good enough since this is just about the idea rather than details.
>Top left
Aforementioned CSB loadout, I like the way the arm slots inside it more than how Haze'n-thley just has it mounted like a shield.
>Top right
/ourguy/ from Wearwolf. I feel like it's a real achievement that I got all the kits for it but somehow not a single one is in the appropriate color. Strictly speaking I'm pretty sure it uses anime Barzam's head but they're similar enough it's no big deal. While making this I've also noticed it doesn't seem to have any beam sabers. They're not visible on the suit in the manga and at least in the translated chapters it doesn't use them either.
>Bottom left
"Light type" for urban combat inspired by the ReZeon Hizack. PR Cavalry's shoulders are longer than they seem so the normal sized shields tend to interfere, even the dedicated one is rather clunky. Small shields like this work pretty nicely, I think it'd look good with Hizack's shield too.
I kinda want to get the GM Raid shotgun and backpack and add a second sturm faust to the other leg.
>Bottom left
>>23524026
As I feared it's haphazard as fuck and doesn't really look good, but it's the closest I could get to dual shield booster setup. Also dual wielding the Hazel rifles as a bonus.
>>23524859
Like the other anon said, G-Line's heat lance is your guy here. If Gatling Smashers are okay, the lance should be good too. Alternatively you could devise some proprietary TR gear for that, maybe a long heat blade on steroids or a lance for the CSB?
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>>23525083
Top right's neck feels too long, is it just me? Head seems too big too, but maybe it's just the fin that's bothering me
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>>23525089
yeah the head is higher up sadly, they're using the same polycap but on Barzam it goes deeper into the torso
with the head it could be the colors giving that impression too, but if nothing else the crest is supposed to be huge
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>>23525096
Oh god I hadn't noticed the fucked up perspective on the girl's face
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>>23525102
cryptid
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>>23525083
I'm sorry
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>>23525102
I'm happy that HZII with Doven/Mk. V legs is gaining traction
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>>23525102
What's going on with those knees?
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>>23525233
Extremely weird mashup keeping the Hyzenthlay II legs in part
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>>23524044
Speaking of, it's still really strange to me the leg missiles are the ONLY thing mounted onto the booster hardpoints. They do note that's very rare equipment for a Feddie unit, but you'd still think there's at least one or two other options available because it's weird to have only the Ground spec make use of them while they're retained on Cavalry and DII.
Pic related.
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It feels nice to finally make something that's been rattling around your head for nearly two years. Vol 83 came out exactly 2 years ago on September 15 2023, but it took a bit longer for me to start wanting to apply it to Pale Rider. Still, it's a nice coincidence. Or an auspicious sign? It'd easily take at least another year before it's a proper custom build, but still.
The exact loadout is just whatever cool stuff I had laying around, I've no idea what it is gonna use in the end.
She? If it's to be a proper wannabe AoZ design I think it's time to refer to her as such.
This is small version of the pic, but there's really nothing to show off in the details so no big loss here.
Lastly, be warned, graphic design is my passion.

>>23525106
I'm sorry too. I have no idea what you're trying to say with this.
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>>23525874
Looking at them again, these photos are kinda awful. I'm getting the impression it's really hard to take good pics of Rah II suits due to their geometry, or I'm having a skill issue. Either way, a stand always helps.
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>>23526119
In my opinion, the Hrududus end up being extremely awkward in real space except on shit as big as the Hyzenthlay II (where they're still a little awkward but the whole kit is so it doesn't matter so much really). They increase the 3D space they take up by an absurd amount, far from how sleek they're portrayed in Fujioka's art. Partially because he picks very favourable angles, partially because the Hrududus in plamo form aren't perfect.
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>>23526124
That's very true, there's always a bit of a "lie" in 2d art, and issues with translating it into 3d. Double so when the Hrududu kit we have wasn't really made for this gimmick either, it's for Woundwort and Hazel and their variants and that's basically it. For one thing, there's no better joint between the pod (which itself is a tad large) and the wing units so they end up too wide unless you use your own connectors of some kind.
But I think that when we get a proper Hambrabi II kit our issues will be mostly solved, you can already see how the Aqua Hambrabi II has more "modern" construction based on Reboot drawings.
In the meantime, this is a nice enough compromise.
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>>23525874
I think anon is saying it looks like a head. I love the axes. what is it from?
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>>23526260
I think I can see it? Would not have guessed it without that drawing though, thank you.
The axe is from Battle Arm Arms, one of like 3 or 4 Build part kits that are big ol' bundles of joint parts in disguise with a few random weapons and what not as a bonus.
The hip missiles are from that too, I'm trying to replicate Hizack's heat hawk and missiles with what I have. The plan is to mount the missiles on Pale Rider's weapon rack once I get one, and I think if I tweak the axe a little bit it will fit in quite nicely too. Might like it even more than Hizack's actually, it's hard to argue with a choppa bigger than a suit's chest.
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>>23526260
I love this illustration
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>>23510992
You gotta factor in that zeon had fractured into a dozen different cells by this point, each operating more or less independently. The Zaku III was shipped in from Axis but at the same time Mars Zeon had their own development team making the Gelgoog III.
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New translated chapter for Gundam Inle

https://crossbonescanguard.com/2025/09/15/advance-of-zeta-re-boot-gundam-inle-black-rabbit-had-a-dream-arcadia-of-zwitterion-chapter-4/

Some very nice Zaku art, character moments and a lot of hints about the background of Tristellar
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>>23527942
this has no business working so well, what the fuck
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>>23527942
The skull and bones head crest looks quite good on the Woundwort I gotta say
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>>23527942
I came
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>>23527942
I love it
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>>23528216
Man i love the AnaLog Methusses (Methussi?), this is the kind of stuff I'd want to see if or when we get more AEUG/Anaheim stuff in AoZ.
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>>23529106
I wish more MS had a large disposable booster like Gaplant's.
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>>23529106
I never noticed the knee beam sabers are like S Gundam. More than that, they're designed like the ones on Mk-II's backpack. Genius concept.
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>>23529189
They look a bit uncomfortable to reach, the guard is on the wrong side
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>>23529192
I'm not really sure how? It works the same way on S, it doesn't get much easier to reach
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>>23529194
Yeah I looked at it wrong, it's actually on the correct side. It's a bit awkward that the emitter is pointing down, but I guess there's no way around it since that's also the port for plugging into the MS.
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>>23529197
eh, seems to be fluid enough really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcFbnPI5ppw
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>>23529206
benefit of having wrists with 360 degree rotation.
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>>23529208
yup
while being humanoid is very important for giant robots, especially with how they're often depicted performing very human-like motions, it's neat when there's a reminder that many joints will have a much greater range of motion than the equivalent for a human
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>>23529851
if it folds its little feetsies up it's actually just Zeong II
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>>23529853
Nah, she'd need some kind of chest armor with a mega particle cannon to really get the vibe I think.
Something like a souped up version of Barzam II's defensive scattering beam.
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>>23529851
considering buying that bootleg gigantic arms to replicate this
concerned about the weight though wouldn't the torso joint of the Woundwort just snap?
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>>23529889
It's not going to snap, they aren't that heavy, but it'll sag awfully and just flop around whenever you touch it. I wouldn't be surprised at all if that modellered glued his because it is a nightmare dogshit joint
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>>23529889
it's not that fragile, just kinda difficult to work with and prone to sagging to the right
>>23529899
seconding this, it's almost definitely somehow reinforced
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>>23529853
With a massive protruding dong, but yeah
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>>23529955
The dong is just for show
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>>23530001
oh no it ain't ;3
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Ah fuck it, let's give everyone a Hazel beam rifle.
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>>23530112
It is very neat
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>>23530215
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Today I learned the Prototype Hizack is based on Okawara's Hizack draft. As if it couldn't get any cooler.
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>>23531209
In shocked myself I didn’t catch this earlier, that’s good.
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>>23531209
I wish we had an ever chonkier Hizack. We've got the Titans gping the dex femboy route, let Acis go the thick str fat bastard route
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>>23531209
Holy shit
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>>23531209
Okawara kino vs the shackles of Banrise
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>>23531209
The rear view also matches well for that matter, while also reinforcing similarities to Powered GM.
Doesn't help shine a light on the rifle though, sadly.
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>>23530112
real as fuck
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>>23531209
Kit when?

It's insane to me Bandai sets up these slam dunk releases and proceeds to just not fucking deliver:
>HG ReBoot Gaplant -> Advanced Hrairoo parts in black/white
>HG ReZeon Barzam II -> Titans Barzam II
>HG Hizack Custom -> HG Any Fucking AoZ Hizack Variant At All
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did bandai really print this guy once then never again?
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>>23531446
>Doesn't help shine a light on the rifle though, sadly.
It just looks like the same rifle as the draft Okawara Hizack, except modernized with the AoZ aesthetic. Same folding handgrip, top carrying handle, and sensor placement.
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>>23531693
I might be bling. The grenade launcher and stock threw me off but you're right, it's clearly based on that.
Still doesn't explain if it's beam or ballistic, but given the draft's design I'm leaning towards beam since that one clearly evolved into the Hizack/Marasai beam rifle.
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>>23531712
it's a little messy, lore-wise the hizack and marasai beam rifle is now supposed to be a clone of the act zaku beam rifle from the OYW, but of course lore like that doesn't apply to concept art from before the hizack design was finalized for zeta

I'm still inclined to think it's a beam weapon since the "ammo" mag/box shape is more like e-pac than bullet container, but it's not like okawara hasn't designed ballistic guns with that shape of ammo mag before *cough*scopedog30mmrifle*cough*
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>>23531393
Kawamori's got some explaining to do
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>>23531393
Gundam X design drafts my beloved
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>>23531792
Wow, this would’ve reinforced the idea that gundam X was alt UC
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>>23531792
these mog G-Cuck abominations
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>>23531855
there's not much of an idea to reinforce here, it's an AU and there's no two ways about it even if it does deliberately reference UC a whole lot more
>>23531860
filtered, what a sad state of affairs
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>>23531792
I'm like 90% sure these led to Destiyn designs
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>>23531959
and g-savior
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Hot.
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man I remember earlier this year we had a bootleg HG Hazel Custom and Hizack Custom announced but so far there hasn't been even a peep about them
feels bad man
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>>23531869
You say this like there's some internal rule that you're not allowed to use UC as a base for an AU
Thunderbolt would have been cancelled if that were true
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>>23532831
Fucked up innit
Both were to be made by the same bootleg people too (Star / WD / whatever other names they use) and it's not like they haven't made other things in the meantime, so I have no idea what's up.
With Hizack I can imagine they ran into issues because they announced it before the kit was even out, so something delayed then afterwards.
But Hazel is not exactly what I would call a recent release. My copium is they switched the plan and want to do the full feature MP Owsla kit instead...
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>>23532959
even if they don't come out this year has been positive
new HG Woundwort that is pretty darn good
Kehaar II + rifle
MG Hazel Custom/Combat Deployment
Hrududu II + Gigantic Arms

the Hizack is give or take but the lack of Hazel HG bootleg really hurts
we need cheap access to booster shields and rifles
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>>23533612
>Hrududu II + Gigantic Arms
That one is from last year, but yeah I agree. I'd like to have the Hizack bootleg but I'm willing to wait till more variants of it come out, I reckon regular AoZ Hizack or the pre-production type are gonna be pretty useful too. I'd kill for the Prototype or Advanced too...
But yes it's downright strange there's no regular Hazel bootleg, it's rather popular after all. But I guess there's plenty other popular suits and they can only make so many so fast.
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behold, the TR plan's final culmination
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>>23533646
Hot wheels are AoZ too...
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>>23533646
SUUUUPAH
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Would navy blue be an acceptable substitute for painting the Hazel Custom chest?
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>>23534064
Sure, why not.
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>>23526304
If you wanna be cute about it that axe is itself a composite weapon since it doubles as a rifle. But it's kinda clumsy and "build fightersy" for lack of a better term, it'd be hard to make it fit.
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I really dig the Hazel Icarus because it looks like standard Federation design (sleek, sharp angles) trying it's damndest to be a Byarlant. I wonder how many FoT designs are clear prototypes for later Titans designs:
>Hazel Icarus -> Byarlant
>Dandelion -> Bound Doc
>Hazel Rah -> Hambrabi
>Hyzenthlay II -> Gabthley

Am I missing another link?

And about the Hyzenthlay II, does it's legs turn into claws as a testbed for the Gabthley or did the Gabthley kick so much ass the TTT decided they needed a similar function for their best performance design?
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>>23535524
Well right off the bat, the Hyzenthlay isn't a prototype for Gabthley - it's actually a set of parts designed as a successor BASED on Gabthley, an impractical super-machine form of the Woundwort that barely anyone could pilot to look good to the brass.Total reverse order.
Hazel Rah isn't much of a Hambrabi either. Hambrabi is, mostly, Hambrabi. The Scirroco designs don't really get prototypes (see again Gabthley) but it does get the spiritual successor of Hambrabi II, which also kinda vaguely situatates Hrududu I as a Hambrabi adjacent itself.
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>>23535524
Hazel Rah is just Hazel Rah, the closest comparison is binder-equipped AEUG suits like Hyaku Shiki and Gundam Mk-III.
Hrududu itself is the basis for Hambrabi.
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>>23535524
>Rosette > Marasai
>Kehaar>Asshimar
>Hrududu>Hambrabi
And I think there's a couple more
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>only the Long Blade Rifle that comes with the Hrairoo (and only the Hrairoo) can plug into the Hrududu II
Are you fucking kidding me?
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>>23535572
I don't know if any other kit comes with that butt stock
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>>23535541
>Kehaar>Asshimar
Yes but actually no, Kehaar is *a* prototype Asshimar the Titans took for themselves and used for the TR Plan, it's a separate line from Asshimar proper
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>>23535578
Lots of AoZs come with the Long Blade Rifle, but only the Hrairoo version has the hole in the back. All the others use the Hrududu version. Pic related.

I don't think it can easily plug into the Hrududu II. I could check, but I don't feel like fiddling with my kits just yet.
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>>23535572
counterpoint, that version can't plug into Owsla's shoulder for stability so there's trade offs
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>>23535581
I don't understand. How does being a prototype for the asshimar mean its not part of the line?
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>>23535581
Kehaar and Kehaar II are different suits
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>>23536932
Let me explain it that way:

>Main development led by Feddies:

Prototype Asshimar -> Asshimar

>Titans R&D seizes a Prototype Asshimar and modifies it for their own purposes:

Prototype Asshimar TR-3 [Kehaar] -> [Woundwort] and the like

They are parallel lines, not the same project.
>>23537047
Yes? [Kehaar] being a separate development trajectory is probably one of the main reasons it's a TR-6 [Kehaar II] rather than [Asshimar II].
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>>23537301
oh, so it's like both have a common ancestor in the proto asshimar but then it diverges into kehaar and production asshimar, kinda like eevee?
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Still daydreaming about this Palace Athene rifle.
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>>23537710
Sure, pretty much.
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>>23537891
you and me both buddy, huge rifles are peak mecha
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>>23537886
silly nonny
>>23537891
big same, even if it feels a little bit strange on Palace Athene specifically. I'd like to see a Hazel or a Barzam with it, but isn't this gun like comically gigantic? Palace Athene is already very big and this rifle looks to be as long as her more or less. That's nearing ZZ/FAZZ Hyper Mega Cannon length, just not a lot thinner.
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>>23537921
I don't know what the text says, but Athene is meant as a an anti fleet/warship MS, so presumably that thing is meant for taking out ships in one shot. I can't remember if Athene has psycommu, but if so it could maybe be used like Elmeth, sniping fleets from beyond detection range
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>>23537947
It doesn't, but even if it did it wouldn't help it. Elmeth did that because it had bits that could travel hundreds of thousands of km, and because Lalah was actually insane. Hyaku Shiki and Zeta are the real comparison for anti-ship sniping of this sort, both of them do it in Zeta (to fairly poor success ultimately).
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>>23537952
Principle's the same as HS and Zeta's strat, fuckoff huge beam rifle. Hell, it looks like this thing is more mobile than the mega launcher/rider/whatever that macdonalds gimmick toy was called, so maybe it's just super long range but still within "conventional" range.
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>>23537947
The text doesn't say anything about the gun, Project File Z Gundam has a few of these original weapon designs with no explanation. I imagine you're right though, it's the only thing that makes sense really. Palace Athene is slow as fuck and only really any good at shooting, so focusing on that is wise.
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>>23537958
The mega bazooka launcher is certainly quite unwieldy but it's also absurdly powerful and suit agnostic. Nemos used them too, and they were undoubtedly more powerful than this gun could pretty much ever be.
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>>23537975
the nemo's reactor could handle it?
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>>23537988
The MBL has its own reactor and only uses another machine to shorten the charging time. It's used in Z a few times with no need for reactor plug-ins.
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Flag of Titans manga translation is complete.
https://mangadex.org/title/305a0da3-0a8b-4c3e-8b78-d854ed0a54d4/advance-of-z-the-flag-of-titans
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Why aren't there any Zetas in Advance of Zeta?
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>>23538050
because it's about surpassing it
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>>23538028
The story is going crazy fast but I don't even mind it, cool robots.
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>>23538060
There's Zetas in ZZ, though.
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>>23538050
"Advance of Zeta" is engrish, it's meant to be what happens before Zeta. The Zeta isn't even done yet. A proper title would be something akin to "prelude to zeta" instead
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>>23538161
That makes zero sense
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>>23538161
They wanted it to have an A-Z thing. Prelude would defeat that.
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>>23538161
Really? Because author says it means beyond.

>>23538028
Buy a banner faggot. No kne cares for your shit scans
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>>23538161
It's a lot more like "Development" as in all the advancements of technology and the setting around the time.
Or, put another way: Zeta Advancements
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>>23535539
>Hrududu itself is the basis for Hambrabi.
How does that work? Didn't Paptimus help the Federation design the Hambrabi? Where does the Hrududu fit into that?
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>>23538605
You said it. Papsmear helped design it, he didn't think up the whole thing out of nowhere and nothing. Hrududu, more specifically the combined form of 2 Hrududus, contributed data that served as basis for Hambrabi's MA form. They're both relatively lithe and small space fighters with high agility thanks to wing binders and close combat ability thanks to a pair of claw arms. Hambrabi just streamlines the whole thing and adds a MS transformation.
That's why a pair of Hrududu II units combined is called Hambrabi II as it's the same concept and inherits the tactical role of Hambrabi's MA mode.
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Scirocco lowley carried the whole TTT idea on his back
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>>23538633
Not in the least.
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>>23538028
Interesting that the winch cannon seems to have and can be handheld. Definitely not the case on model kits and I don't think I've seen this in any FoT drawings let alone in Reboot. I'm chalking it up as a variant model.
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>>23538863
Wait, does that primrose have bird feet?
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>>23538864
It's holding winch cannons via the subarms. Drops one and Hazel picks it up and fires by hand.
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>>23538863
guessing the artist just didn't get it
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>>23538887
I had to check, but in the mook it's even stranger, Hazel suddenly has the subarm for it when it wasn't there in previous photos. It's probably just a simple and small mistake and no big deal, but it's still curious.
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>>23538515
I'd even wager that "ZZZ" won't even be the absolute endpoint of the Zeta series, and that a "Z4" could be retconned into late UC at a later date
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>>23538976
Depending on how you view MS development trees, technically Xi is a Zeta descendant.
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>>23538028
They made Inle fucking scary, good.
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butt
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>>23539220
Thrusterfuck designs my beloved
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No joke I had a dream about this, had to do a mockup of the concept. I realize just photoshopping the linearts would have been easier but it wouldn't feel as real.
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>>23539617
Johnny Bravo ass


Wait actually, isn't this basically >>23526260
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>>23539626
Sorta? I'm imagining this more like proper test equipment or upgrade parts rather than a field repair though.
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Can anyone post that illustration of the Woundwort Rah wielding a Hazel rifle and shield? I think Fujioka only posted on Twitter, can't find it on the site.

>>23538515
That's how I took it. "Oncoming of Zeta", it features prototype designs of the stuff the Titans used in the Gryps War. Although:
>is called Advance of Zeta
>doesn't feature the Advanced Zeta Gundam
What the FUCK.
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Where is the bunny maid Woundwart. I need it for research
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>>23539964
Here you go
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>>23539967
And here you go, performing traditional maid activities no less
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>>23539977
No the other one, I’ve been looking ages. I feel like it’s been scrubbed from internet
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>>23540118
The one like this but it’s woundwarts pointy wang
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>>23540118
>>23540161
in that case you've got me stumped honestly
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>>23541097
I’m being gas lit, gang stalked even
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>>23540118
Can you doodle something in MS paint? Or at least describe what the pic was like?
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So is the Woundwart/Wondwert or however they decide to spell it at a given moment a space only mobile suit? Or can it fly or hover on Earth?
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>>23541450
It hovers on Earth.
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>>23541247
It looks like this, and there’s Hazel in the corner looking concerned at Woundwarts crotch armour.
I can draw a better pic later, I’m at work rn
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>>23541456
I thought they could only hover on Mars
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>>23541489
It's expressly designed with the ability for reentry, and can fly in MA form and hover in MS form on Earth.
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>>23541450
Woundwort by itself should have some hovering capability, though it wants to use dedicated hover units mounted on the legs for better mobility, or alternatively collapse the lower legs and mount more conventional legs there, for example Barzam's or Hazel's. By themselves the legs are awfully thin and not very stable so walking under gravity is not recommended.
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>That moment when Fujioka does it years before GKeeeeks.

Okay, I gotta admit I missed this the first few times I went through this volume. That Hazel-Quel is riding a damn bit, with 2 more strapped to its shoulders to charge an enormous MA.

Makes me wonder if the Red Gundam's design team new of this, or it was all serendipitous happenstance.

Helios bits are basically Elmeth bits, and while its technically the bits themselves holding onto the MS here, the Silhouette is practically the same profile as Red Gundam.
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does the hizack marine have beam guns on its wrists?
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>>23541544
That's a wire anchor, pretty common on Feddie marine suits. I think this one specifically is the same type as on Zaku Mariner?
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>>23541536
My guess is just a coincidence, even if it is really funny.
It's a dang cool idea after all, even if the circumstances are different. IIRC here the early Hazel is using them as a last bit of extra propulsion to get to the Inle, whereas the Red just has them as its loadout after the Psycommu was installed.
I don't think Yamashita talked about the bits specifically in any interview, but the GQuX Gundam as a whole is designed to focus on the "test machine" characteristic, hence for example the hardpoints. They provide easy modularity and equipment testing plus adaptability for combat scenarios. Their placement seems to be based on optimal locations for utility and clearance to avoid obstructing or colliding with anything else. Bits work really well with that too despite their size. I have a kit of Red with the two bits mounted on the legs, Zeon-esque high mobility style while the shield is mounted on the right shoulder like Zaku. Even though it's not the intended config there's barely any issues with posing, it's really well thought out.
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>>23541604
Now I'm trying to imagine what types of hilarious scenarios you could create with the Helios' Bits. Subarms on Psycommu devices is really only something AoZ dives into, unless theres an example slipping my mind at the moment. Just imagine putting a beam saber into the hands of these bits, and just have it start spinning...

>Beam Tri-Blades
>But Psycommu
And now I am left wondering why this doesn't already exist
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>>23541604
>I have a kit of Red with the two bits mounted on the legs, Zeon-esque high mobility style while the shield is mounted on the right shoulder like Zaku.
Sounds neat. Post pics.
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Anyone have any cool kitbash ideas to replace the winch cannons of the Gigantic Arms Hazel? Feel like messing around a bit with mine but don't have any good ideas on what to put there. I'd just put shield boosters but I don't have two of them just lying around?
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>>23541781
off the top of my head varieties of shield boosters and winch cannons are the only things we commonly held by these but I could be missing something.
You can always just fuck around with whatever fits in (the latch is a 3mm peg so plenty of options) till you stumble upon a fun idea.
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>>23541781
A second pair of Gigantic arms.
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>>23541753
Alrighty, there you go. Bonus Pumpkin Pie Warrior friend
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Speaking of the Pumpkin Pie Warrior, it's a pretty damn nice kit. HG Asshimar's engineering is really impressive, even with some minor fitment issues of the bootleg the transformation is still remarkably easy yet solid, plus there's no partsforming whatsoever. Gave me a new appreciation for the mecha itself, it's a very unique design even among Zeta's amazing variety of mecha.
The bootleg also comes with a second rifle, which is very handy since it's a cool gun. What's more, they actually overhauled the runners for that, modifying them rather than just throwing in copies. Most of the parts are undergated too.
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I was thinking of making an [Asshimar II[, but sadly the leg structure doesn't allow for it and it'd be kinda silly to use just the arms.
Incidentally here's [Jester Gundam II]
Oh and by the way consider this >>23541781
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>>23541781
Less funky version for you
>>23541652
Depends what you count as subarms really. There's been the odd mobile bit of this or that form, X's outright mobile suit bits are the most famous but there have been random less sophisticated takes on the concept, if you stretch the definition even back in 0079 drafts.
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>>23544029
out of curiosity, why buy a bootleg? Isn't the official kit like 10 bucks?
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>>23544079
Depends where you are, for me the bootleg is a third of the price of the original in the closest thing I have to a local store. Plus, two guns.
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>>23544029
Really should buy one and paint it Black Hares colors. You can't easily attach a Hazel II booster pod on the back like that one lineart right? Requires some considerable customization?

>>23544079
>Isn't the official kit like 10 bucks?
What year are you from? 2018? You can't find a HG Asshimar for 10 bucks.
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>>23544150
>What year are you from? 2018
Uhh... well actually... the last time I bought gunpla was...
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>>23544150
You mean like the Asshimar-Rah with Hrududu Thethuthinnang Hrair?
Sticking a Hazel II booster pod there is... not impossible, to be honest. Hell of a lot easier it it stays in MA mode, but even in MS mode it could be done I think.
The backpack is on a hinge (drum frame by the way) for the transformation but you can have it on ass-level in MS mode. A bit awkward since its thrusters are not aligned properly, but it does leave the back open for other stuff. The bootleg actually makes this easier since it adds a slit-shaped joint so you can attach a beam rifle there too. Reusing that for stuff like Hrududu or an EWAC dome could be fun
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>>23544156
>A bit awkward since its thrusters are not aligned properly,
On second thought that might not be an issue, it looks like some of the thrusters can rotate for the MA mode so that can be reused here.
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>>23545009
I wish Kehaar got more love
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>>23545164
What MS are those arms from? Silver Bullet?
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>>23545174
Looks like the Silver Bullet Suppressor
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>>23545182
Reee doesn't fit the timeline
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>>23545649
Only difference from the Doven Wolf's sculpt is the shoulder armour
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>>23545649
it's not like a Hazel Owsla would evaporate into the ether after UC 0090
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>>23545654
Are you 100% certain that the Titans wouldn't include a remotely activated disintegration switch for all TTT wquipment to prevent Sp*cenoids and An*heim from getting their grubby little mitts om their tech? Plus, it helps keep the pilots compliant...
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>>23545660
Quite sure, actually. Somebody's gotta work on these machines, and it's best if it's somebody already familiar with them.
It's job security for them in case things go south.
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>>23545660
Post-Titans disbandment surveys indicate Titans love nothing more than slurping big zeon cock
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>>23545663
Never ask your ground crew what they were doing dueing the last war. This applies to every single conflict in UC.
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>>23545673
Eh the random mechanics deployed on the frontline probably don't have much history. The engineers that make whatever deathtrap you're piloting? Don't look up their names.

I see it's bump limit time but there's no need to hurry with a new thread I think, especially when there's at least a chance we're getting Volume 102 in like 10 hours. Maybe. Hopefully?
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>>23545688
Who would be the UC equivalent of Oppenheimer? Minovsky?
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>>23545688
I like this image a lot
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>>23546053
Do not the mobile suit
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>current year
>GM Quel
I am forgotten ..
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>>23547379
god damnit I forgot to post that here, the face masks are downright inspired, I love them
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>>23547379
It looks like the Delta Plus face
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>>23547436
it's a Zeta, Mk-III and chinless
I love the Zeta face, reminds me of Griffon
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>>23547470
The Griffon?
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>>23547519
predates it by a few years, actually
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>>23547528
Both designs are sexo but I don't see the resemblance. If anything it looks like Master Gundam
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>>23547534
Master is actually younger than both of them, funnily enough
Anyway Hrair sex
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>>23547950
>copyright
>when it's just a traced Fujioka artwork
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>>23547966
you're not very smart
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>>23549122
I really like this artist's style.
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>>23547534
>>23547950
They are all cut from the same cloth.
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Also this nigga.
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>>23550140
it's more common than you think
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>>23549131
mobile suit moeblobs are an untapped niche
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>>23550801
Just don't look at what else the artist draws
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>>23550822
moar?
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>>23550634
sorry but wings are reserved for good guys
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>>23551097
>>23551097
>>23551097
new thread



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