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Why isnt this talked about more? What a banger.
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do you expect people to keep talking about everything until the end of times? lurk moar faggot
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>>23500759
Base TTGL victim. Sorry but I don't make the rules
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>>23500759
We talked about it all time when it was getting translated and during SRW threads. It's not our fault you can't pay attention to shit years after the fact.
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>>23500759
I've been shilling it literally every other time Mazinger came up, it's my favourite Mazinger story
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>>23501772
and probably the only one you ever read
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>>23500852
Kill yourself.
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>>23501775
Nuh uh, I've read everything else I could get my grubby paws on, not that the rest were tremendously satisfying. Although I'm still waiting for Ota's Great to get translated, so I can read that and Grendizer. That might be promising, but I definitely felt a great love for Mazinger from Shin Mazinger Zero.
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>>23500759
Not as much of a banger as Wolf Guy iykwim
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>>23500777
>>23500916
What am I supposed to do? Travel back in time?
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I really liked it, especially the final battle and the ending. The constant horny scenes were kinda annoying, however
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>>23500852
live yourself
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Has it been fully translated yet?
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>>23500759
Only losers like cheap coom bait slop
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>>23502028
Yes
>>23502032
True!
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>>23501785
I BROKE you, pup.
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Minerva was mean to Maria
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>>23502081
The manga in general was mean to Grendizer and its cast
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>>23502096
Zero already had enough going on without needing to drag in Grendizer’s cast.
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>>23502096
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
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>>23502096
Going "if Zero finds out about Grendizer we're absolutely fucked" is pretty funny to be honest.
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>>23501785
>t. Zerofag crying
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>>23502066
>Incoherent /dbs/pic tears
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>>23502066
>coherent /dbs/king speech
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>>23502448
Stop samefagging.
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>>23502448
Keep differentCHADing.
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>>23502448
fregolibitch...
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>>23502478
Whoops, meant for >>23502452
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>Brainrotted /dbs/pic can’t help but samefag unintentionally
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>>23502483
no
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>dbsdbssdbsdbsdbsdbsdbs
Obsessed
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>>23502492
Yes.
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>Stop pointing out the samefagging rat shitting up the thread with /dbs/ babble!
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/dbs/ is dead
there is no samefagging, you are paranoid and severely mentally ill
go outside
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/dbs/ being dead is exactly why you’re here, shitting up threads that hurt your fee fees while hiding behind Gurren Lagann in a desperate attempt to fit in.
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genuine conspiracy theory
why are you like this
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>>23502522
All the /dbs/ people went to /co/ THOUGH
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>>23502507
YOU are the one shitting up the thread with your “samefagging” delusions, retarded nigger. This thread was having some degree of discussion before you showed up to make it all about your schizophrenia.
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>>23502522
Everyone from that place is either ghostposting or over at the DB threads. You are insane.
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>>23500852
crazy how this fact triggered thread fission
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>>23500759
I did not care for it
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>>23502524
Least insane mecha fan in 2025.
>>23502531
onionposter? here? I KNEEL.
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This was such a nice scene. If you can stomach go nagai's horny bullshit, I would recommend it
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>>23502912
Why would you read Go Nagai manga if you don’t like sexy girls?
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>>23502096
We at least get some redemption at the end with Koji specifically pointing out Grendizer and saying that he wanted to fight with him. It would have been interesting to have a trilogy where we got Koji, Tetsuya, AND Duke, but I don't know how they could have topped both their endings.
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>>23502912
We get it, you're homosexual. Nobody cares.
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>>23502912
>>23502912
>horny
Shut up.
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>>23503043
The tentacle wires are a bit much for me, I’m used to revealing pilot outfits but not outfits where even a single wrong move might cause an orgasm.
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>>23503052
Nobody asked.
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>>23503052
I asked
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>>23503052
then you're a pussy
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>>23502930
>>23503035
>>23503043
There is a limit to whats acceptable. Also, isnt she underage here?
>>23503108
Or (you) are just a giga coomer
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Let's discuss Mazinger Z 2
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>>23503267
>oomer

Good lord, your generation is just beyond warped.
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>>23503269
>Mazinger Z 2
The actual name is New Mazinger, newfag. It was created to fight against the Mckinley corps.
>can't find the screencap that mentioned the Mckinley corps
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>>23504229
>no shin great mazinger
its SO over
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>>23505130
It's been almost like 16 years since Shin Mazinger premiered. Move on from it.
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>>23505130
Being familiar with Z and Great's stories, you can probably piece the story together, and that's a fair argument. But Shin also did enough unique shit that you're left fondly wondering how balls to the wall insane Shin Great would have been. I don't think Marshal Hell would have come back willingly, but how would it have handled the endgame against the Emperor of Darkness? What other surprises or other Go Nagai properties would have shown up? Would we have gotten a Grendizer tease, and posting here about it longingly had Shin Great come out? The possibilities...
>>23505146
No. What you call cope, I call hope.
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>>23505146
Im a newfag THOUGH
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>>23505130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Id24og3Wko
This is as close as we'll get.
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>>23503267
>Also, isnt she underage here?
Go back to twitter zoomie, lolis are /m/
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>>23505457
Super robot wars has been carrying this franchise for the last decade
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>>23504229
Anon I'm pretty sure it was a joke
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>>23500759
Mods ban anyone they even THINK might be some namefag people schizo out over, hence the lack of discussion.
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>>23503267
Oh fuck off
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>>23501785
Debunk it instead of crying
Oh wait it's impossible to debunk, LOL!
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>>23500759
it insisted upon itself
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>>23505911
Your mother insists upon my dick.
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>>23506732
..." is what every Mazinger Zero fan hears from everyone.
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Nobody reads, if it gets an anime you might get some discussion
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>>23500759
got a bit too contrived for me to finish but I appreciated it
>>23503267
you may be 18 but still too young to be posting here
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Kinda disappointing Mazinger thread, have a Sayaka not ashamed and ready to pilot.

>>23506765
Who would even animate or direct it? My ideal was Kimura but he passed away and I can't trust Obrai with a full series.
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>>23507663
She's supposed to be cute, not slutty THOUGH
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>>23503267
>Also, isnt she underage here?
>ISN'T THAT CARTOON CHARACTER 17 YEARS AND 364 DAYS OLD?
Your haircut looks like broccoli.
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>>23508273
>why not both
Also, why are we acting as if this outfit came from Zero
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>>23508273
>Cute not slutty
>Post the one Sayaka with her tits out
Ok
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this thread significantly lacks Minerva images
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>>23508413
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>>23508415
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You motherfuckers have an uncanny ability to derrail threads
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>>23505624
I-I was joking too...
>New Mazinger
>from the shitty-ass subs from the movie
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>>23509679
You stuttered.
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>>23509942
No!
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>>23509958
Because of your stuttering, you have to masturbate to crow-sama.
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>>23509970
As much as I like being ordered to masturbate I deeply despise that stupid crow
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>>23505229
>Great Mazinger's pilot is a clone of Uncle Tetsuya
>Scene of Mycenae Empire fighting Vegan Empire
>Govarian cameo
>Early design for Great Mazinger used, somehow
>Mazinger Angels
>Great Booster gets an upgrade called God Booster

Almost writes itself.
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>>23502081
There's being mean, and then there's this.
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>>23502103
I feel like it only really added that stuff at all because they knew people would be asking WHERE GRENDIZER.
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>>23509995
The crow spitting at Boss' is truly the epitome of comedy and "kinography".
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>>23510062
I have a mighty need for all of this
>>23510611
Hiss
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>>23510066
I want to see a SRW were Minerva constantly bullies Maria
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>>23510752
>no playable units or even supporters
>it is JUST Minerva finding and bullying Maria at every opportunity
>it doesn't matter where she is or what the context is, whether it's something fun and casual like a meal or a birthday party, or something dire like being in the middle of a boss fight
>just shits on and bullies her constantly
>by the start of act 2, her sad portrait is her default portrait
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>>23510624
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>>23511927
This is so fucking miserable. He didn't deserve that. No one deserves that. Delete this immediately.
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>>23511939
It's too late, more than 20 minutes passed. The post can't be deleted anymore.
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>>23511993
I hate you I hate you
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https://twitter.com/evolutiontoy/status/1963470732198859222
LED.
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>>23510624
>2-part episode about Mass-Produced Great Mazingers, Black Great, GMFA1.
>Japanese government collaborates with the Mycenae Empire.
>Kelvinius episode is gonna make you cry.

We don't live in the best timeline.
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>>23514663
>getting fucking MP Great Mazingers and all that transpires
>Kelvinus
We were ROBBED
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The Boss quote.
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>>23515305
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>>23515320
is there any explanation as why archduke godron is a green freak that's fused to a big ass cat? The other Mycenaes look normal
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>>23516341
Well, when he dies we see that he's a cyborg, also what do you mean everyone else looks normal, they all have a fake head and a real head
Are you just saying that because he's not bipedal? Are you some kind of racist?
(He debuted earlier in Z than any of the other Mycenae, so it might have been just two separate stages of designs, where they came up with someone cool then wondered what the next antags would look like, but I don't think even in Shin they addressed why he's like that, the tiger was a separate buddy but that's about it.)
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The Mazinger and Dynazenon interaction of SRW Y.
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>>23512065
Good, good.
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Is there any production, in-universe, or any other ostensible reason why the Double Harken seems to be - or at least often comes across as - Grendizer's signature or strongest attack? With Great's Thunder Break, and what people assume about Z's Breast Fire, you wouldn't be insane for assuming that Space Thunder was the most powerful. But instead it's some circular double polearm that he just swings and throws around. I'm assuredly missing something here.
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>>23505574
It's gonna keep doing that if Grendizer U sequel bait ending is anything to go by.
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>>23520902
I think it's just because it's a fairly unique looking melee weapon? It was a fairly weak attack even in SRW for Grendizer's original SRW 2-4 appearances, then got boosted afterwards around the time of A to its finisher.
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>>23522620
Yeah it looks nice, but it's just a unique melee weapon, what about electricity or magnetism, I think those could potentially fuck you up at molecular levels with some bullshit explanation than the double harken can
>It was a fairly weak attack even in SRW for Grendizer's original SRW 2-4 appearances, then got boosted afterwards around the time of A to its finisher.
Right, ok so it was just dinky at the start, and I assume Space Thunder or the Spazer stuff were the strongest back then. So have you or anyone finished the show to know whether or not it's his actual finisher? I'm still waiting on better subs. Because if SRW bumped it up to a finisher, there might be a reason why, but then again Z's breast fire is also one of the more stronger attacks even though nothing in Toeizinger (afaik) indicated this in the slightest.
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>>23522932
It's similar to Mazinger where the weapon use is situational although Space Thunder and the Double Harken were finishers more often than the other weapons.
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>>23501982
No, just deck these whiney kneejerk faggots into their mouthbreather noses.
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>>23515247
>Koji becomes a cyborg
>Ashura returns, but split in two
>Ares is the final boss instead of The Great Marshall of Hell

Such wonders we shall never see.
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>out of nowhere
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>>23534793
this has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about
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>>23526713
Whats up with Uranus and Posaidon? They are mentioned in the story, but they didnt do anything. You would think Posaidon would do something if his 2 main allies were fighting.
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>>23510752
I understand them thinking it's way too similar to normal Kaiser, but I find it sad that SRW V and X didn't give Great Mazinkaiser for Tetsuya to fight ZERO. Either that or at least just give normal Kaiser to him, and then introduce Emperor G in SRW X.
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>>23537574
The Olympians don't appear for the most part, the story is about defeating the Mycenae Empire. They're still out there and a problem, but that's for after Shin Grendizer.

>>23537906
Great Mazinkaiser makes sense in the story because you needed to see that "Mazinkaiser" isn't enough to beat ZERO. As an upgrade for Tetsuya it's not ideal because It's just Mazinkaiser with some tweaked details. Mazin Emperor G's design and weapons are all designed just for Tetsuya.
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>>23537906
>>23542559
Also, back in V they were hyping up Emperor G as being on Zero's level. Great Mazinger by default was bellow that.

It's only starting from X that they changed it to Kaiser-level.
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>>23542597
>Great Mazinger by default was bellow that.
I meant Great Mazinkaiser.
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>>23542597
Tetsuya fanficers go home and stay home
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>>23542597
Mazin Emperor G wasn't pumped in SRW V, ZERO was gimped. Lore-accurate ZERO is a reality buster. His Breast Fire should vaporize each map. Maybe RahXephon or Ideon could hang with it but Emperor has never shown anything close to that power level.
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>>23544470
In V, it was said Mazinger Zero could destroy the entire world. And Embryo uses a fraction of its power mixed with Awakened Eva-01's in an attempt to fuse the 3 universes from V which would have worked if it didn't get interrupted.

Its battle animations also were absolutely over the top, often destroy vast areas, and Emperor G's animations were clearly designed to be on that level too. Even in X, when they brought back Mazinkaiser, they clearly had to make it more over the top than ever before animation-wise to keep up with Emperor G (note that stat-wise Emperor G got downgraded in X too to go alongside its role of being a pair with Mazinkaiser, rather than Mazinger Zero).

In the final battle, Zero also holds reality together alongside Awakened Eva-01 and Shin Getter.

Heck, looking back, I guess it's due to Emperor G not being involved in any of this world destroying stuff that people couldn't take it being on par with Zero seriously and it got downgraded afterwards.
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>>23500759
I think that Zero is a shitty villian that is presented as way more powerful than its role requires it to be and I don't like the execution of timeloop/multiverse/meta angle and the story structure in this.
I like some scenes and passion behind it, but I feel like it didn't bring anything worthwhile to Mazinger mythos and usage of Zero since in stuff like SRW and Infinitism novels made me somewhat jaded.
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>>23549973
I've never seen a Mazinger villain get this scary (except for all the times that it did, in the more obscure stuff by Go Nagai but shh) but the fact that it was pulling from so many of his works, the fact that the first ending (and a few fake-outs you get after) are very lovely and happy Mazinger endings and the final ending being a thank-you+love-letter to Go Nagai overall, I can't hate it. Zero was a terrifying seething baby and doesn't really have much depth, yeah. But it's also - debatably less so than Getter Emperor - a bit of an incomprehensible threat with the power of a god. If you were mostly focusing on the actual villain than the series in your post, yeah I get that. It's not necessarily a 10/10, even though for me it is because of the ride.
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>>23549973
>>23550150

Zero's power is kind of necessary for the meta message, but ,yeah, obviously if you don't care about that either then it seems unnecessary.
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>>23550212
I also forget which unfinished Mazinger manga (Mazin Saga? The one with the Mazinger demon helmet?) it was from, but the different chakras awakening were pulled from that as well. Which makes me appreciate Shin Mazinger Zero a bit more, but also makes me realize from the other works that an evil Mazinger going berserk wasn't an idea unique to Zero. But worst-case you can just once again refer to the final ending's message.
Oh man I'm going to be really sad when Go Nagai passes away.
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>>23550150
If you don't like the meta shit you can ignore the follow up manga but the original is just really more a multiverse loop.
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>>23549973
>Mazinger mythos
Americans are so retarded.
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>>23552904
What, should I have called it a "DynaPro star system"? "Mythos" seems appropriate to me, especially with the mythology references and Mazinger enabling its pilot to become a god or a devil (which depending on a story might not be just a figure of speech).
I'm an old worlder and also ESL by the way.
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>>23550317
I love me my comfy happy epilogue endings, but you miss out on a lot of Great, and all of Ankoku and the meta, but yeah it's very difficult to say whether the original or the complete thing is better.
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>>23550237
>unfinished Mazinger manga (Mazin Saga? The one with the Mazinger demon helmet?)
Yeah, the one that has Nagai's favorite creation, Devilman, in it with a similar concept to Mazin Saga's Mazinger.
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>>23555264
>Nagai's favorite creation, Devilman
I love Devilman, there's nothing wrong with Devilman, I just feel some degree of spite towards it when Go Nagai gives it attention and drops yet another Mazinger manga partway
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>>23555264
Mazinger Z vs Devilman is a classic after all.
Also, I'm sure Uncle Go's actual favourite creation is Koji's boyfriend, Angelman.
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>>23549973

That is kind of the point. ZERO is a meta response to power creep in the mecha genre. It was never meant to be an actual part of the Mazinger mythos, but a commentary on how the capabilities of real/super robots in Anime have grown in the 4 decades between when Mazinger Z premiered and when Shin Mazinger ZERO did. Consider Mazinger Z's capabilities in '72 were enough to allow Koji to become a "god or devil," but in modern mecha anime it's capabilities barely place it on the level of an elite grunt while the real "god/devil" level mecha do things like throw galaxies as shuriken or erase concepts.

ZERO is the urge to make Mazinger the strongest mech ever and is why no form of Mazinger, be it Z, Great or Kaiser, will ever defeat it. This ties into how ZERO is defeated in the end: ZERO is defeated not by making Mazinger Z the "most powerful super robot ever" but by admitting that it is the original that others were inspired by, having those inspirations as a group surpass it and then having ZERO realize that.
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>>23555425
>admitting that it is the original that others were inspired by, having those inspirations as a group surpass it and then having ZERO realize that.
Yeah, I don't think it was a pity thing, Koji's concession to Zero, it felt like something you'd smile and say fondly and genuinely to a friend (despite him having schizoed out too hard).
I have no idea what happens after the ending though, I'd like to think it's another happy epilogue similar to the other twelve fake epilogues that part 2 gave us.
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>>23542559
yeah. honestly, I see Great Mazinkaiser as the final upgrade for Mazinger, and I think Koji should pilot it.
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>>23556616
Reading dumb shit like this, made me really appreciate what Infinity movie offered.
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>>23556616
Great Mazinkaiser doesn't have full God/Demon potential of original Mazinkaiser, thus no Kaiser Nova. And note the Kaiser Nova, the full unlock of potential of the Kaiser, is directly compared to the 7 Black Boxes from Mazinger Zero in SRW X/Y, with the 7 points that blink on activation. It power ups and changes the background in an identical way to what Zero does for Final Breat Nova attack animation in SRW too, making a direct parallel to that.
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>>23556736
Damn, Great Mazinkaiser sounds like a chump, would likely die to DvH Great Mazinger. At least Emperor G got Getter Guts.
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>>23556616
>>23556736
>>23556770

More proof that the devs and fans of SRW misunderstood the purpose of both ZERO and Great Mazinkaiser. Mazin Emperor G is pretty much them doing the exact same thing as what led to the original creation of the Mazinkaiser and even doing it the exact same way just because they don't want Mazinger Z (Koji) and Great Mazinger(Tetsuya) to become weak.
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>>23557049
Or maybe the message was weak and anti-imagination. As much as I don't like power faggotry part of that, Mazinkaiser and Mazin Emperor G are cool, so there is nothing wrong with them.
Still, I much prefer the way Shin Z way of buffing Mazinger.
>Koshiryoku Beam harder
>a new and cooler scrander that forms a giant Rocket Punch
Perfection.
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>>23557162
>Or maybe the message was weak and anti-imagination.

Nah, the core of the message of ZERO was pro-imagination along with the idea that it is ok to have stronger mecha in other franchises. The first 3 "photon images" summoned in the final battle were Getter Robo, Grendizer, and Jeeg as a reference Super Robot Retsuden followed soon after by more and more images of other mecha.

>Mazinkaiser and Mazin Emperor G are cool

At their core both of them a just redesigns of Z and Great done to justify them fighting on the level of "more powerful" mecha in SRW. Mazinkaiser is a 90s redesign of Z and in the OVA, aside from the first episode when Z is destroyed and Kaiser takes over, it is basically treated exactly like Z as a character.

>Still, I much prefer the way Shin Z way of buffing Mazinger.

Shin Z is very much a case of them restarting from zero and letting Z be as strong as it needs to be without worrying about the influences of later mecha series. Infinity was the same way Mazinger Z was strong enough to win against Hell's forces and the only thing Koji really needed a power up to beat was giant physical embodiment of Z's "replacements" which was defeated by the world's support giving it the ability to grow large enough to punch out Infinity as a one time power up.
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>>23557049
>More proof that the devs and fans of SRW misunderstood the purpose of both ZERO and Great Mazinkaiser.

I think they understood the message which is why it couldn't be just Great Mazinkaiser in V. The point was exactly hyping up Tetsuya as strong enough to face Zero.

Yeah, you can say Kouji doesn't NEED to be brought on the level of newer shows, but that only works when you're looking at Mazinger as a complete story. When you have Kouji and Tetsuya constantly appearing as active heroes alongside newer characters and you want them to be a big deal, they need to be stronger.
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>>23557285
>Mazinkaiser is a 90s redesign of Z and in the OVA, aside from the first episode when Z is destroyed and Kaiser takes over, it is basically treated exactly like Z as a character.
There's also the finale where Kouji talks with the hermit(? Is it his father? It's odd Kenzo outright isn't mentioned) and unlocks the Kaiser Blade. That kind of "hidden potential inside" stuff is all Mazinkaiser original and wasn't part of Z originally (Although then Zero used it for Z, but highlighting the direct meta message of not allowing Z to be surpassed by anything).
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The Mazinger story where Mazinger Z wants to be the largest, tallest sized mecha of all time.
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https://twitter.com/EmberToys/status/1973581339153875197
Embertoys Mazinkaiser.
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>>23556679
whats wrong with infinity? It was a bit nonsensical, but cool.
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>>23561913
Quite a lot, IMO.
New seiyuu, Yanase's redesigns, the way Koji and Sayaka were portrayed, Lisa in general, randomly using Dr. Hell again just for nostalgia points.
I mean, I liked the action for the most part, but that's about it. Overall, I consider it a "meh" experience.
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>>23556736
>Great Mazinkaiser doesn't have full God/Demon potential of original Mazinkaiser, thus no Kaiser Nova. And note the Kaiser Nova, the full unlock of potential of the Kaiser, is directly compared to the 7 Black Boxes from Mazinger Zero in SRW X/Y, with the 7 points that blink on activation. It power ups and changes the background in an identical way to what Zero does for Final Breat Nova attack animation in SRW too, making a direct parallel to that.
I honestly thought that was just because they reused the animation (like a lot of stuff in Y for Mazinkaiser) from X, since Mazinger ZERO isn't in the game itself. Still, in the case of X, though, you're right.
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>>23561946
I guess thats fair. I like how Koji grew up to become a scientist like Juzo/Kenzo, however,
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>>23561946
I think it was harmless and appreciable after I saw it as an immediate follow-up to Toeizinger and Great, do you have any ideas on what they could have done for a better villain? Admittedly it's weird that Dr Hell somehow came back from the dead twice, but I don't know if OCs would have been very compelling, and I don't know how I would have felt about them finishing off the Emperor of Darkness after waiting like, however many years it's been since the show and the movie
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>>23555317
Devilman gave Nagai this mission and resolve.
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>>23562025
Well, the profile with the different modes for Kaiser and its potential is reused too. But, yeah, no direct comparisons to Zero outside of the reused animation since Zero isn't in the game.

>>23562071
Not that anon, but I think a new threat could have sold the danger better? It kind of felt like once Kouji was back in the Z there was the sense everything would be fine since he had done that before, in spite of the situation being worse in some ways this time (with the army of Kikkaiju at once and Infinity).

The problem with the Emperor of Darkness is that although it never got a proper battle, everyone around him would be reused villains in the same way, just bringing back Great Mazinger, rather than Z villains, and obviously Dr.Hell wins there if you're going for nostalgia.
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>>23562071
What if Dr. Hell himself is dead, but he found and started to work on controlling Infinity before dying. So what was found in ruins alongside it is unfinished controller unit Gamia Q.
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