English Subs Premiere stream starts in less than 5 minutes, some of you may need a VPN.https://www.youtube.com/live/JrWKlNEOqNQNyaa rip with subs soon(?)
Shout's dumb system btw
>>23504374rider is making history in USA
Yeah I love this gurp already
>>23504374Is the main terrorist Leo Zodiarts or am I simply being racist?
>>23504374>you now remember Neon's backstoryTakahashi really likes having normal humans kidnapping/killing little girlsAlso I wonder if Baku's bad happenings when he helps people are caused by the Tru antagonist or by 0 in order to grrom him
>>23504384>Streams 24/7 through MondayAnd yet you aren't allowed to pause while watching the stream.
>>23504384You really think Shout chose this and not Toei mandated?
>>23504424>Toei mandatedLook who owns Toei shares
>>23504424Or TV Asahi.
>I just remembered that this aired and is already overFuuu, I wanted to watch it live. Have to catch the rips now
What did you like and dislike about Zeztz's premiere?
IMPACT!MEZZAMERO!!I'M ON IT!!!HENSHIN!!!!GOOD KORNING RIDER!!!!!ZE ZEZ ZEZTZ!!!!!!>>23504447It's airing on Brasil's TokuSato right now but only Spanish and PTBR subs
>>23504384It wouldn't be an attempt to bring rider to the west if it made sense.
>>23504450(me)NVM the credits are rolling
>>23504447it's on repeat
>>23504447It's starting up again literally right now. GET IN HERE!
Lads it was freakin perfect. Hot dang what a pilot
>>23504374>my country not includedI'm going to shitpost and doompost this series just to spite for not including my country
Riderbros we're so fucking back
That was fantastic, god damn
>>23504374Somene please OCR the subs
What are your premiere impressions on Baku?
>>23504449The "saving the kid from a predator" part was awkward.Did he even save her before Humvee-Kun hit him?
>>23504457>>23504459Well, they're making sure it's getting watch it globally.
>>23504474pedo gets scared and runs off, mom gets kid back.
>>23504464What's your country?
How do we feel about translating mezameru to arize?
It's probably the best first episode of a Kamen Rider show I've seen. I'm not counting on it staying this good, but I hope they at least keep the dream-style fights and night scenes.
>>23504374That was pretty good. Can't wait to see what the opening is gonna look like.
>>23504474You can see the girl getting away and the mom rushing toward her in the aerial shot
The belt voice is clean
>>23504471He's schizophrenic. It's all in his head.
>>23504449Honestly one of my favorite first episodes ever, my only complaints are some of Nem's line deliveries, the shot where Baku jumps from the Window and the shot where Baku kicks the Gun Nightmare into multiple CGI backgrounds. Otherwise the direction and action were great and I already like Baku and his sister as characters and the cops have a decent set up. I hope the show remains this good.
tourist hereI thought it was kind of cool. If I was a little kid I'd probably want an action figureI think they overdid the slo mo in some parts. I dunno if that's normal in these shows though. The random throwaway enemy guy's costume was kind of cool too with the gun arms.
>>23504470yeah, like the way someone had did the subs from Kamen Rider Kuuga from how they are arranged during the hard-subbed ; like the translated titles of the books in the first episode of Zeztz.
>>23504488It's fine. It's not the most offensive thing in the world. I'm more miffed about not leaving in "henshin"
>>23504483>>23504495These but to be fair, the director should've focused on that too.I mean, they bothered to show they weren't real bullets in the dream sequence.
>>23504488TokuSato put it as MEZZAMERO
>>23504488its unique for the transformation process for that part.
>>23504471Livable goofball action hero. I don't like his lips though, which is bad because his transformation sequence calls attention to it and he had lip wounds half the episode.
>>23504488Well it's also not "mezamero" it's "mezzamero" so it makes sense to put a bit of a spin on it.
>>23504498>All of Zeztz is Baku's coma-induced dream from being struck by lightning as a kid>Being the final boss is what finally wakes him upWould be kino.
>>23504501>I think they overdid the slo mo in some partsThe overuse of slow-mode is mostly a flaw of the director, another show he did, King-Ohger, had the same issue up to eleven
How many episodes before the inevitable Now It's Happening In Reality episode tone shift?
>>23504449I loved the nightmare sequence, really well shot and imaginative, action scene was also great, baku seems really interesting with his changing personalities and desire to turn his Dreams into realityDisliked dream baku's eyes. They creep me out, Nem was kinda awkward, but that could simply be because that's baku's dream version of her
>>23504488Hope it means we get an Agito cross over.
>>23504521plot twist>the other main characters are not part of his imagination and actually got pulled into the dream world with him
>>23504525End of 1st quarter, will come with the upgrade form
>>23504449>GoodEpisode was solid.The concept of the dream themeing was conveyed well in the chase scene.Music is great, sasuga Sakebe.Subs had no major issues.>BadI think that the stream had some frame rate issues as people were rolling in at the start? The first couple minutes looked kinda odd.
>>23504525The premise is already nightmares disappearing people and the MC levitating like it's the poltergeist, so transitioning to the real world is probably soon.
>>23504374It feels like a mix of Geats, Kabuto, and Kuuga with bits of Zero One and the Control video game.
>>23504525Honestly I think it's implied that we're at that point already. That's what the black cases are about. We do see Baku floating in the hospital, so maybe if he'd gotten shot he'd develop bullet wounds. Maybe we'll see a wound from his dream that carried over to when he woke up.>>23504533>Baku is like a dream version of a singularity, holding the dream world in place for people around him
>>23504536>I think that the stream had some frame rate issues as people were rolling in at the start? The first couple minutes looked kinda odd.That's just youtube compression + TV Broadcast master. Hopefully someone slaps the subs on the TTFC/Amazon rip
>Be fun monster>Can’t even hit a dude point blank
>>23504547Gun monsters don't kill people, People monsters do.
>>23504537>>23504540Right but I meant like the fights and Henshin will occur in real life with consequences of said shift.No way the whole show does this "only in dream land" thing.
>>23504504or of the way the Black Case report of the translated version is shown to the side
>>23504540>Baku is the singularityW-what will happen to everyone if he MEZZAMERO?
>>23504536Worked on my end.
>>23504509Did they translate "henshin" to "transform" or just left it as it is?
>>23504549MY ZIZDEZ
>>23504556They all get to escape the nightmare. But if he dies in his sleep, so will they. That's how those things work.
>>23504489I think this anon has it right. The way production works on this shows, it's ultimately impossible to keep up this level of quality on a week to week basis. I hope they do strive to get episodes like this for important stuff though.
YOU DIE IN THE DREAM YOU DIE IN REAL LIFE.
>>23504449Liked>good action, especially the opening gunfight>lots of neat imagery during the dream sequences>suits are cool>Baku's imouto is cute and her worry for her dumbass brother's safety is nice>music during the final fight was goodDisliked>some really dodgy transitions during the more intense parts of the dream sequences>introduction of the cops is kinda rushed>the extremely apparent dubbing of the Mystery Nigga giving Baku his suit>Nem's just kinda there>>23504471I like him. He's inherently a fucking dork but gets that huge confidence boost in the dreams. He's not really an idiot in the way some of these types of characters are either. I wanna see more
>>23504569It's pretty fucked up, next week is Bomber Nightmare. Imagine your roommate falls asleep on the couch and then spontaneously combusts in the middle of the night.
>>23504569>"Who needs to be a masked bug with a bike when you got these sick claws?"
>>23504522>The overuse of slow-mode is mostly a flaw of the director, another show he did, King-Ohger, had the same issue up to elevenJust because we're bringing up slo mo, it'll never be as bad at that one episode of geats where they were trying to match the card monsters. Not that was overusing slo mo so badly that the sequenced was stretched the fuck out, if ohger was 11, that was a 20.
>>23504578I'll be SHOCKED if we don't get some MOTW who's a Freddy reference.
>>23504584Nox's final upgrade.
>>23504374>>23504449>>23504471The show has a neat style, though hardly the most technically impressive if you're familiar with what other modern rider and sentai shows do. It has a tough uphill battle after the last show, which had some of the best action in Reiwa for this series, but the henshin was cool, and the action was fun. The style is unique enough to stand out, which is what I was hoping for.A big mistake for this episode was not properly showing the protagonist's bad luck and struggles with his dream. They speak a lot about how he's helpless and has terrible luck, but the only unlucky thing that happened to him was caused by the villain, so it's more of a villain attack than a miserable life. I think if you saw the Gavv finale, you may get a better impression, but it's a wasted opportunity not to have an unlucky montage like Den-O did in his first episode. And because we don't get a good idea of that beyond what his sister says and some quick photos, the guy's motivation and drive feel rather hollow. It's good that he wants to help others, but the episode making a big deal about how he can't really do it seems to exaggerate someone who's (seemingly) a basic dude. I'm sure they'll expand on why he's like that later with some backstory, but they probably could have included some of that in this episode to make a better introduction. If it's something like their parents helped people and died, some quick line hinting at it could have worked perfectly.So it was fine, but definitely lacking in the more important parts to sell the plot.
>>23504564They left it as Henshin, then translated the "I'm on it." and "GOOD MORNING!" parts for the LATAM people, but left "RIDER!" and "IMPACT!" as is.
Did they make him look like Rider 1 because he’s the first simulcast Rider?
>>23504592Well I think they wanted to focus on the Kamen Rider part first. Establish the rules of the world first, then expand on the characters.
>>23504566If he shits in his sleep do they shit too?
>magic tricks to impress girlsThink Baku will get laid by the time the series ends (or in a v-cinema)?
>>23504474I only noticed the mom went to the kid on my second viewing. I think that was a mistake, as a less keen viewer could go the whole show thinking the protagonist failed to save a kid from being kidnapped, and nobody did anything to save them. You can only see it if you see the top left screen when Baku gets hit by a car.
>>23504611You do lose control of your bowels when you die after all..
>>23504611No, but because his dream world is the singularity, they all smell it. Same if he has a wet dream.
>Accel>MachWhat are the chances his secondary is a bike
>>23504614>CIA Training ManualLmao
>>23504449It was fine. The trippy visuals were okay, I didn't like the weird bulging muscles thing they did during the actual in-suit fight, the opening sequence was weirdly cheesy but I can let it slide because it's the MC's dream.I think it's going to need a couple more episodes before I can say whether I think it's good or not. I don't like the suit though. The belt as a sash is jarring.
>>23504602>for the LATAM people,Is that out as well?
>>23504449I feel like you can REALLY tell that the suit and gimmicks were designed before the show's plot was thought up. What exactly do 2D sprites and gashapon have to do with dreams or special agents?
>>23504564Only English-speaking audiences ever seem to have a severe allergic reaction to keeping some Japanese in subtitles/translations. Everytime there's a clip on youtube of non-English subs they never seem to have an aversion to just straight up using non-translated Japanese here and there for jingles and the like. Sometimes even without any TL notes
>>23504614oh jesus I didn't realize how grim his situation wasdude is like 1 step away from becoming a neet
>>23504492I think the opening is the weakest part of it. It sounds like it was generated with Suno (AI Music generator).>JUMPING AT SHADOWS!Said sounds like, not is, but it's very low quality and the music itself just doesn't do anything for me.THe BGM on the other hand.... HOly fucking shit we went from bangers to bangers, Gavv had a great OST and so does Zeztz.
>>23504449Genuinely loved it. I haven’t had this much fun with a Rider opening ep since W
>>23504614modern man's duty to society sounds like a white supremacist title ngl
>>23504632I like that the list implies a gradual decline to his psyche. He starts with very clear goals, then he gets sucked into men's health self-help books, and finally he goes full schizo. Poor Minami.
>>23504592I think the unlucky thing maybe is not bad luck at all but the Nightmares interfering in his life.
>>23504622>Dreams of Nem-Chan gravureOh no.
>>23504614He's gonna have a crush on the idol girl and creep everyone out because she's 16 and he's 20
>>23504629This is true for ALL the shows, though
>>23504374I'm confused, because this episode made it seem like Agent 0 and dream Nemu are schizo delusions conjured by Baku. I thought 0 was an actual commander of an organization that kept information from Baku because he's a low-ranking agent while Nemu was another person with lucid dreams that shows up on all of the dreams that Baku invades because shesshe's so famous. But in here they really felt like fake people that Baku made for moral support.>>23504449Really liked the episode. Kenta Nitta did a better job than I was expecting, he was also Baku's stunt double for the scenes in the beginning. The direction for Baku's nightmare was fantastic, Baku's relationship with his sister ended up being cuter than I expected. That said while I liked the fight overall some of it felt awkward by Jun Watanabe standards, reminded me a bit of how some fights fared off in late Revice which scares me a bit for future episode, also the cops' introduction felt rushed, although I do appreciate the episode has little use of exposition.
>>23504628Yeah it just aired on TokuSato's channel, they're a Brazilian company and they'll be airing Zeztz for LATAM.
>>23504374Hands in the air if this is the first kamen rider episode you've seen in a while (or ever).
>>23504449Action, setting, vibes were all kino. Didn’t like that the titular rider is another NEET. 10/10 episode.
Is the sub hardcoded or not ? Waiting for sub rip because the stream ain't available here
>>23504653I'm not sure what's more interesting, CODE being real or fake.
>>23504639it's a good thing he got distracted by bond films, otherwise he might've become A.R. Ohma Zi-O
>>23504653they could pull an ass pull and it really be Nemu and Commander 0 is real and just causes bad luck to mold Baku into it (dear lord it is just Baku from Meet n Fuck games isn't it)
>>23504619That's a Dizaztzer waiting to happen...>>23504622>>23504645That'll be really awkward when everyone wakes up and asks him about it.
>>23504449Like: Baku being a good natured guy and sprung to help the kid as soon as he figured it out. I hope we have more real life shenanigans, and hoping the dreams setting gives us that too in the other side.Dislike: It's certainly an Ep 1 of a modern KR show. I've only been hooked ep 1 by early Heisei.
>>23504614>He had school friendsHe is not like me fr fr
>>23504658I haven't watched an airing one since Geats, which I never finished.
>>23504622>Same if he has a wet dream.might as well join in!
>>23504668hardcoded
>>23504637An anon subbed the whole thing when it first dropped https://files.catbox.moe/tz3atq.mp4it's typical sawano stuff desu
>>23504670>>23504639>dude Western politics lmao
>>23504653>>23504670I feel that Code is going to be real, but he's taking on the 'role' of commander in the dream world in order to help Baku
>>23504614Glows in the dark in more than one way...
>>23504683>Sir, there's been a new disaster in the Nightmare case>We're called it the first White Case
Does anyone know who did the subs?
>>23504658It would be if I didn't decide to watch Build the past month. Big gap otherwise.
>>23504628It premieres on the TokuSato channel at the same time as Tokushoutsu.
>>23504614>Getting Your Motorcycle LicenseZeztzmobile confirmed?>CIA Training Manual>Agent in ExileSo he is pretty serious about wanting to do secret agent work after all.
>>23504628Yes, it's Youtube subs so you can toggle between PT and ES
>>23504702Serious enough to buy a book and probably nothing more.
>All those references to Bond films and no Bond theme song inspired track for the openingWe missed out on true kino
How often will he have to fall asleep on awkward situations? At what point does his sister have to keep him alive while he sleeps?
>>23504723Royalties might be too expensive to use.
ZeZtZ puts you to sleep for his finisher by showing you the rest of his show LMAO
>>23504729I don't mean getting an actual Bond song, just make a new song based on how those usually sound. Maybe next week the visuals for the OP at least will be inspired by Bond openings, but VISIONS is in no way a spy theme, it's 100% a Reiwa tokusatsu opening and nothing else.
>>23504658I've tried watching toku shows before but it never sticks. I'm hoping if I follow this one weekly I can get to the finish line.
>>23504449Overall, it was a pretty average first episode. The biggest highlight was Kami's above average directing, really liked the long suitless action scene at the start with the actor credits incorparated into it, as well as the horror vibes. Baku seems to be a solid protagonist so far and his actor is pretty decent, it's interesting that his hikikkomori-ness is the product of a depression of some kind which I hope wasn't just caused by his bad luck in general, I just hope neither of his personas gets flanderized like Ace and Keiwa were. I also like that his bad luck is seemingly not just plain bad luck but rather incidents caused by Nox actively screwing with his heroic acts. Speaking of Nox, if he's really getting people killed like the text previews imply then I hope his sins aren't swept under the rug when he gets inevitably redeemed like other Takahashi anti-"heroes".I can see some foreshadowing for Minami's secret status as an agent already, which we will learn more about in the first episode of her miniseries, I like that she will seemingly be more involved in the plot than Keiwa's sister was. Can't say much about Nemu and the two cops yet since they didn't do much this week, but I wonder how much the old guy knows about the dream world stuff since he's already aware of the Nightmares and their M.O. If Zero's always going to speak in English then I wish they had casted someone more fluent like Mr. Belt, he sounds kinda stilted. Zeztz's Henshin was cool but his fight's choreography was nothing to write home about, I hope Kenta Nitta can surprise us in the future. So far there isn't much intrigue other than the obvious mystery characters that are Zero and Nox, as well as whoever dragged Baku into Zero's HQ (if that wasn't supposed to be Nemu herself). Also, I wonder if Baku will have the belt permanently stuck to his chest in the real world like a pacemaker of sorts.
Fucking amazing first episode, watched it with my buddy. It's his first Rider and I'm glad this what his introduction to the series. Hopefully the quality stays consistent but I'm not getting my hopes up. I will say though, could Rider finally be saved?
>>23504744>I will say though, could Rider finally be saved?You retards say this every year a show has a mildly decent first impression
>>23504374>Nyaa rip with subs soon(?)https://nyaa.si/view/2016362
>>23504374The raws of Zeztz's transformation lesson were posted on the general: https://files.catbox.moe/8c8euf.webmBaku will apparently have unique transformation poses for each form. I don't know if anyone will sub the transformation lesson or the special mini-series about Baku's sister
>>23504695kek
>>23504726I felt bad for imouto just begging him to get a real job. He’s a kind lad but if he’s the breadwinner, the schitz is really killing them
>>23504744>could Rider finally be saved?If you've familiar with this franchise, you know very well that the first episode doesn't determine the quality of the entire show.
>>23504744I thought it was a blast. I haven’t been interested in rider in four or five years but I’m just gonna believe Zeztz is the one
>>23504731I hate you but this made me snort laugh.
>>23504762I've been waiting for that show for over ten years
>>23504754>but if he’s the breadwinner, the schitz is really killing themHe isn't, he's a NEET living off of her sister who works as an entertainment manager. The apartment is hers.
>>23504744But Gavv already was consistently good like usual Heisei seasons even if the show peaked at Caking's debut. Even though the advanced pre-production Gavv had didn't improve the show's planning, so Zeztz might be the same case and there's no guarantee the next season after Zeztz will have a long pre-production, I think them having to film shows in advanced now will be mostly beneficial.But either way one cannot say that Kamen Rider is "saved" because the current producer pool is kind of mixed bag, and Toei seems to be pulling people from other divisions that have been AP in Toku before to compensate, so if anything the quality of Rider and Sentai shows are more unpredictable than ever since it's mostly new producers now with the new division formed led by Shirakura and Tsukada and with Ryusoulger's producer as president replacing Hikasa.
>>23504771Geez. Breakfast duty seems like a small ask
>>23504749That's really cool that anon subs these, now I can look retarded properly!!
>sister: Don’t help anyone ever Baku! You will be put in danger!I know it’s a kids show but damn is she dumb. Even getting a plumber job would be “helping” people. To help others is basic human instinct, even if it’s not saving lives.
>>23504749Is the special miniseries actually important or just dumb comedy bits like Gozyuger does?
>>23504782But it isn't subbed yet, but I guess looking retarded is your goal?
>>23504784To be fair, we don't see the part where every accident Baku has ever been in was because he tried to help people.
>>23504784>Anon understanding context and hyperbole
>>23504784you can tell that despite being the responsible sibling she's just as traumatized by Baku's misfortune as he is, maybe even more.
>>23504788I should stop assuming things... I want to look retarded doing the poses, not like this.
Well, we definitely can’t say that being a kamen rider ruined this guy’s life, as it was pretty bad beforehand and he would have died without the belt.
>>23504784She clearly means for him to not go out of his way to try and solve a random person's problems, not that he should never help anyone in any way, Shape or form ever
>>23504784>Even getting a plumber job would be “helping” people.>Get job, suddenly the water pipe breaks, flooding the house, a random kid almost drownedBaku-Neesan Baka!
Baku's playing the game of life in Wonder of U mode
>>23504800>Get job as barista, accidentally serve customer volcanic hot coffee, customer's throat burns shut and they die of suffocation.
>>23504798We don't know that. It could be another Ex-Aid case, and Baku is actually patient 0 of the Nightmares.
Good morning rider
>>23504803I hope he knows how to dodge airplane doors better than he does Hummers.
>>23504778>But Gavv already was consistently good like usual Heisei seasons even if the show peaked at Caking's debutIt was as consistently good as Wizard.
>>23504803I'm only going to say this once Baku-Chan, you have capsules that you can see, and ones you can't. The ones that can't will let you [[GO BEYOND]] the nightmare.
>>23504471I like him, the fact that he's experienced being struck by lightning and still tries to save people knowing it's almost certainly going to get him badly injured speaks to his strong moral character. I hope he can become able to save people outside of dreams as well before the show is over.
>>23504800>>23504812That's not how his bad luck works, the one who gets punished for his acts of kindness is him, not the people he helps.
>>23504837We don't know that. Maybe that guy was actually the girl's father and was trying to take her away from her mentally unstable mother.
>>23504814I loved the clear Faiz homageI loved how all the "wake up" symbolism made sense with the belt soundsI love how Zeztz refers to Zzz
It just dawned on me. The barrel on the Gun Nightmare makes him look like a spider. And the first enemy a rider fights is usually a spider.
>>23504852Exceed charge ZZZ
>>23504778I dunno, Sentai's been consistently good the past few years as opposed to Rider being bad to mediocre.
>>23504849Nothing happened to Shouma.
The sound design of his finisher is phenomenalThis is what happens when you have a team that inspires eachother
>>23504856Yeah, he used the chains like a spider web too.
>>23504882???It's nothing we haven't heard(seen) before
>>23504904The slot machine part is spot on
i hope zeztz doesnt get lazy and spams that uno reverse like a crutch
OST was half good half generic.
The soundtrack that plays in the next episode preview was way better than whatever it was they used for the fight
>>23504915My guess is that Zeztz will be fighting in reality and not dreams anymore going forward to give a in-lore reason as we why we don't have crazy dream fights anymore Also I'm waiting for the insomniac character
>>23504814ZEZEZZEZTZIMPACT
>>23504922The real highlight track of the episode is the track used during the spy sequence
>>23504630It's because Murricans got gaslighted into thinking everything needs to be overlocalized or it's a bad translation. They try to translate even things that's common in US, like shittake being translated as "mushrooms" because they think watchers are fucking dumb.
>>23504837I was just cracking a joke about his bad luck.
>>23504927I don't like the jingles imo. The enunciation gives me that same uncanny/uncomfortable feeling that Ultraman Decker's jingles did
>>23504803>Wonder of U ...
>>23504374I'm scared that Baku being a "perfect agent" will make him feel too OP and could trivialize a lot of the cases of the week. Currently the impression I get is that the only thing preventing him from instantly winning is his spy autism limiting his creativity plus it not being as applicable in other people's dreams.
Very sneaky of the director to make the child predator running away easy to miss
>>23504942Welcome back, Ace and Keiwa.
>>23504932>because they think watchers are fucking dumb.Well they are. Especially if you're catering for a very general audience
Phoenix Wright ass music during the investigation scene
>>23504937Having little to no experience with Toku/Rider, I find it very fun.
>>23504938I don't get it
>every single time Baku tries to help or protect a person in the real world, regardless of how little that help is. he always ends up at the hospital, literally at deaths door, from getting ran over by a young adult magical girl's vehicle of choice, to get crushed by a meteorite, to getting electrocuted by a UFO just passing thru. Hell! He essentially died already this ep. 1!>His sister is so scared of his bad luck and so afraid of him dying that she is decided to shelter him.Given how ridiculous this is, i just know all those literal death scenarios for doing something as simple as 'helping people', are indeed being staged by CODE because they need someone like Baku.... I just know I'm not gonna enjoy this...
>>23504932>>23504952That's a very rude way to think about this. It's more like the general audience is unfamiliar with this kinda show.
Streaming quality is fucking ass. Lots of compression. Hopefully there will be standard releases with TV raws...
>>23504961tldr: forced meme by saberchinks
>>23504972And they can get used. Most countries got fine watching foreign media without overlocalization, Americans will too, stop being gaslighted by stupid execs that sees you as a retard.
>>23504972You saying this in itself is indicative of why they do this. They have to cater to the lowest common denominators in the audience due to deliberately casting the net wide. Both anime and game translations also suffer from this problem
>>23504856This is the first actual Rider show from Japan to be aired worldwide as is. Essentially a reboot of the entire franchise and how its gonna do things in the future.It makes perfect sense for this show to retread themes and elements from the original show to ease audiences... Then again, even if this becomes a hit worldwide i REALLY doubt they will bring anything from older shows too, specially the showa era, we will NEVER see anything of it from Toei.
jesus fucking christ that rip is so badnow i'm gonna have to wait for the amazon rips for every episode if this keeps up
>>23504992>>23504995But this is the corpos' fault, not the audience, stop being so rude when you talk about them.
>>23505020aw did someone her your feefees lil bitch
>>23504449>likeKamihoriuchi is great. The soundtrack was great. I actually don't mind the OP anymore, I hated on it but it's nice. The action scenes were good outside of the early season mandatory CGI, that was bad as usual.>dislikeBaku's dream look. The 777 because it makes me think of slot specials like Setzer's and that's not what he was doing. He has a cardiac arrest on episode 1 already? My expectation for "unlucky protagonist" would be that as it progresses he gets into more unlucky events, you can't get more unlucky than dying immediately.Overall I thought it was okay. You can't really be worse than Saber's first episode, but I think this is Takahashi's weakest Ep.1. I like the W-y vibe.
>>23505020>dude corpos lmaoYou realise the corpos do it *because* of the audience, right? The more audience, the more potential customers. So the audience invited in end up enabling it. It only keeps going because they invite in the ilk that genuinely likes these bad practices and encourage them, and because they eventually become the majority due to sheer numbers, it becomes the norm.This shit plagues and continues TO plague game translations ever since Japanese media went more mainstream in the West
>>23504979The HD TV raws are still getting uploaded, so will the Amazon raws, I assume someone will do a release where they rewrite the hardsubs from Shout into a softsub script for these raws
>>23504863Faiz but good
>>23505052Faiz still looks cooler, this is mostly a Zero-One but good since he hardly glowed in the show
>>23505020>aaaahhhhh corposBuddy, even fansubbers did stuff like this when catering to Americans. An official release completely open to a general audience has even more reason to double down on assuming the audience is dumb or sensitive to non-local sensibilities.
>>23504863I still find it funny that the sole reason Zeztz glows is because Kami told Yanaka "it would be cool if he glowed"
>>23505074It'd be really funny if Shout got a fansubber and told them to knock that shit off. This is like the best subs for a currently airing Rider show in ages.
>>23505042like a uploader did for Kuuga.
>>23505011>Essentially a reboot of the entire franchise and how its gonna do things in the futureNot really, according to the staff it was made to look similar to the original season while appealing to western and other asian audiences was because they want it to be a good introduction of the franchise for newcomers from around the world but the main focus is still japanese children. They don't consider this a "reboot" since Zero-One was already technically that and they implied that after Zeztz they will go back to "trendy japanese themes" like Gavv's snack theme, although really whether the next season has a motif like that or tries something similar to Zeztz it's up to the mercy of whoever produces the next season.
Baku's sister being cool in her mini-series: https://files.catbox.moe/gcf7jd.mp4
>>23504961It's a semi-meta meme about Touma being a twisted villain who's abusing his broken powers to cause all the misfortunes in the Reiwa era. They compare it to Wonder of U and sometimes call Touma a Stand User because of that.
>>23504429I looked it up and everything seemed normal except the Saudi one. But Saudi oil princes are giant weebs. I don't know what your point is
>>23504486India
>>23505127Is that the whole thing?
>>23505143Clearly, if Shout had enough stake in Toei then they could... overrule TV Asahi?
>>23505127That knife dodge is awesome, but getting around the building so fast was a straight up ninja move. Do you think she's gonna be a Rider? Also wanna mention I'm surprised about the use of realistic guns in the show.
>>23505147Oh RIP. When I think of India, I get the impression you guys don't get a lot of this cool stuff, am I wrong?
>>23505153If Shout had enough of a stake in Toei they would not be a boutique DVD distributor
>>23505152No, but the whole thing is still really short, just a bit over 3 minutes: https://nyaa.si/view/2016319
>>23505156She may or may not be a CODE Agent.
Did the backgrounds end up all being AI like in the teasers?
>>23505181Just shooting the shot by what if she's actually 0?
>>23505191No, but they also don't have any unique CGI backgrounds besides the room with the doors, otherwise every other CGI backgrounds are old ones from other showsAt least that's what someone told me
>>23505197Doubtful given how protective she is of her brother.
>>23505218But what if she acts that way so he feels like he has to prove to her she can rely on him, therefore motivating him further?
Really cool first episode. Kami's directing really fits the dream setting, and that first transformation had a lot of impact to it making Zeztz kind of like a nightmare himself at first. I hipe we get a lot more fights and night and in the dark, the Zeztz suit really shines in them. Overall just really cool execution with the dreams and secret agent setting. Can't wait for next week!>>23505218Doesn't kind of point more towards her having some reason to not want her brother pitting himself in danger as a secret agent if she used to be an agent? Although I do think the fact he keeps getting caught up in unfortunate accidents is probably enough motivation for her to have some PTSD when it comes to him putting himself in danger on its own, but I wouldn't complain if there was a lot more to her than it seems.
>>23504374I'm confused as to what the motifs of Zeztz's forms even are? I remember a previous thread saying that apparently Physicam represents the power of physical strength, Technolom the power of civilization, Esprism the power of divinity and Paradigm the power of dimensionsBut I dont get how exactly does those concepts correlate or their relation to dreams.
>>23504814Zeds’ henshin effect feels like it would be turbo boring, but the ethereal goop ended up looking fitting since he’s actually permeable during the spin up. The inevitable quick henshin cuts are probably going to be lame but whatever
>>23505284Maybe they just don't. Maybe Takahashi said to hell with bending the show around the toy concepts and they're generic tech enough that it doesn't really matter
>>23505280>Doesn't kind of point more towards her having some reason to not want her brother pitting himself in danger as a secret agent if she used to be an agent?Yes, which is why her being Zero doesn't make sense, since Zero's sending Baku out on dangerous missions every week.
Haven’t watched a Rider series since Build but got hyped for the simulcast. Any series worth watching? Build, W, and Gaim are my favorites.
>>23505296Gavv
>>23505293Oh yeah I missed that if anon't proposing she's Zero. I thought they meant 0 like a different agent 0. If anything it's more likely she's one of the others that came before Baku if there were 6 others before him.
>>23505127Cute horse face
>>23505292Takahashi doesn't make those decisions retard. >>23505284The producer just wanted Zeztz to rely on 4 forms that retain the general shape like Kuuga. Apparently he even wanted the show to have no gimmicks and just have buttons that allow to change the forms just like Kuuga and Den-O since he felt that in a dream you wouldn't use gimmicks to change forms, but ultimately had to add the capsems gimmick to make money. It doesn't seem like the forms have any proper motif and they just thought what would be better for action scenes. >>23505296Better ask the general, in fact I think someone asked a similar question in either the current general or the previous one, so the answers to that post could help you out.
That was a very good first episode. Right to the fucking point. The characters are likeable, story seems interesting, the suit is fucking great. Night fights??? Fucking awesome.
>>23505296>>23505303Found the post of someone asking a similar question recently: >>23500793
>>23505303>Apparently he even wanted the show to have no gimmicks and just have buttons that allow to change the forms just like Kuuga and Den-O since he felt that in a dream you wouldn't use gimmicks to change forms, but ultimately had to add the capsems gimmick to make money.Sounds like a potentially low money-making year
>it wasn't my fault, officer, the nightmare told me to molest the little girl
>>23505296Gavv, Geats, and Zio just for Decade.
>>23505311>The rate has rapidly increase since January 2025What do you guys think could've been the reason if it was related to something in the real world?
Is the text on Baku's wall implying that he indeed has a bike license or that he wants to get a bike license? >>23505313I'm interested for when they eventually explored some of the people that has gone insane from their Nightmares>>23505332Immigrants? I've noticed that there has been a bigger influx of immigrant drug dealers in Japan these past two years and that this year featured multiple shows with drug dealers as villains, I don't know if that influenced Gavv too but I doubt it.
>>23505311>The rate has rapidly increased since January 2025Hmm...
>>23505336>Is the text on Baku's wall implying that he indeed has a bike license or that he wants to get a bike license?I saw this >>23505139 post on the main thread so I'm assuming he did actually get a license.
>>23505313This makes me wonder if Nox is being influenced by a Nightmare himself.
>>23505336>Immigrants But is a Rider a show that would touch on this topic? Genuine question.
>>23505346Gavv did.
>>23505346Yeah, you can get away with almost anything on japanese kid shows as long as the concept is goofy, just look at W and Gavv having drug dealers, Geats killing a baby and a child, Puniru having angle shots to simulate blowjobs, Revice having an antivaxx episode or Gozyuger's antagonist raping the main Mecha. Even today's episode of Zeztz had a child molester.
>>23505352I see, so then do you think people will get hooked on nightmare power or something like that?
>>23505357Damn, the Japanese are wild...
>>23504942I don't know, they knock that Perfect Agent flat on it's ass in the very first episode. I don't think it'll be a problem.
>>23505336Apparently what inspired Gavv's villains was a documentary about drug dealers kidnapping kids to force them into child labor that Takebe and Takijima watched, but they never specified what documentary and ftom which country. Funnily enough Boonboomger's antagonist which aired the same year was inspired by the drug dealer Pablo Escobar.>>23505127>>23505171I'm surprised that this indeed seems important unlike the .5 episodes of Zi-O and Gozyuger and the writer of these special being Takahashi's apprentice. Is Takahashi supervising this miniseries?
>>23505336They're Kamen Riders, it'd be weird if they didn't have licenses.Come to think of it, which characters probably wouldn't?>Shouma since he has no legal documentation whatsoever>Hibiki was confirmed to not have one>Gentaro, Sougo and Houtaro are high schoolers, doesn't necessarily mean they can't have a license since in Japan the age for some motorcycles is 16 but it would not be surprising if they didn't (Gentaro is the most likely to have a motorcycle license among the high schooler Riders)>Sento and Shouichi both have amnesia but might have licenses since they have integrated into their new livesHonestly I think the least likely Riders to have licenses would probably be Eiji and Tendou. Eiji because it completely slipped his mind, and Tendou because he doesn't care and wouldn't get pulled over anyway and even if he did he'd simply Tendou his way out of consequences.
>>23505390>They're Kamen Riders, it'd be weird if they didn't have licensesMost of them don't ride street-legal bikes, so having a license is pointless.
>>23505390>it'd be weird if they didn't have licenses.I brought it up because in this case the bike is sentient and some shots in the trailer showed it driving on its own but I see your point. I wouldn't be surprised if Sougo doesn't have a license due to his king autism.
Is any kind soul providing a Mega folder?
>>23504863I liked how the kick put the Nightmare to sleep for a second.
>>23505402Reiwanon, but he might take longer than usual because this is the first episode, he's probably deciding whether he should upload the current rip or wait for better ones I guess
>>23505427Thanks, I will check the Rider thread then
>>23504627>cheesyIt's a fucking childrens program what is wrong with you
>college studentGuess he dropped out before the series.
>>23505459You can finish 4 years of college by 22.
>>23504471More entertaining than I was expecting, I assume his little sister is sheltering because his "bad luck" killed his parents
>Kamen Rider >most of them don't have licenses
>>23504374>not available in my countryThey are stupid and retarded.
>>23504471Pretty positive on Baku. I like him.>>23504449That said, the episode itself didn't exactly wow me like most first episodes usually do. The fight was a bit underwhelming, and I'm still not that big of a fan of the suit and items. The only bits which really had me entertained were the trippy dream sequence and the pretty good out-of-suit action at the start
>>23505487But most of the protagonists do indeed have licenses, unless you mean other riders, which yeah feels blasphemous
>>23504449Seemed incredibly badly paced so far, don't like the suits and the character building seemed pretty bad.The dream gimmick could be cool but I expect them to completely squander it.
>>23505479It's because she's a CODE agent, that's why she tells him to shut up when he says being a secret agent would be nice.
>>23505296Zero-One and Gavv are the only ones worth your time. They aren't nearly as good as Build or Gaim but they are passable.The rest of Reiwa is varying degrees of bad, Saber is the only one that is bad but had nuggets of potential in it and I could see some people liking it.
>>23505546I can't fathom why someone who difn't like Revice and Geats would consider Zero-One good. It's another show that has a great start and falls off hard just like them.
>>23505550>It's another show that has a great start and falls off hard just like them.It does fall off in some aspects, but there are still good parts that remain by the end, and I ended up liking more than I disliked for Zero-One.Geats shits the bed after Q1 and stays awful the whole ride after that with literally one likable character who isn't even in the main cast, and Revice just felt predictable and boring basically the whole way through, the only strong points were 2 and a half characters.I still liked Aruto by the end even if he was retarded sometimes, I liked Izu, I liked Fuwa, I liked the suits, some of the twists were cool, Ark was cool, etc.Back on topic, the MC for this feels like a charisma void so far but not nearly as bad as Ace was who tried way to hard to be cool but didn't have the presence like say Tendou.
>>23505550Also I didn't say good I said passable
>>23505546That honestly depends what you want out of Rider. I don't disagree with the other Reiwa shows being varying degrees of disappointing but I still managed to enjoy various parts of all the shows...Apart from Gotchard, I think outside of a very small number of episodes I highly disliked Gotchard all the way through. Direction, pacing, action and choreography, character chemistry and writing / plot / pacing, and for the first time ACTING all missed the mark.
>>23505557>Direction, pacing, action and choreography, character chemistry and writing / plot / pacing, and for the first time ACTING all missed the markGeats had similar problems, the twin pillars of 1/10.
>>23505296Saber and Gavv are the only ones I truly liked. Nearly every Reiwa show starts out great but dips in quality the longer it goes on, Saber's case is more or less the opposite of that, whereas Gavv does suffer from this but it doesn't fall off nearly as badly as it remains a fine enough show for most of its run, though the ending is kind of underwhelming compared to the other shows.
>>23504629your newfaggotry is showing..
>>23504449I liked the cinematography. I like the concept. I like the detective/investigator side-aspect to the season. The suit has grown on me. There wasn't anything I disliked yet.
Underwhelming first fight desu. Zero-One's, Revice's, Geats' and Gavv's were all much better and exciting
>>23505559No, I enjoyed several aspects of Geats, the character chemistry was fine sometimes, the character development and the plot generally wasn't but it wasn't enough to keep me from enjoying it.Saber and Gotchard were just plain garbage, I didn't think we could get worse than Saber or Ghost and then Gotchard happened.
>>23504449nothin boger but this mean we are going be peak!!remember, good ep 1= bad show
>>23504374curious how they will use the driver also existing in the real world, it will probably do nothing except we worn in his sleep for the first half of the show, but I guess this means he will eventually transform IRL in a future arc
>>23505689I wonder how it's gonna be. His secret agent phone rings and he has to find somewhere to take a nap so he can fight the nightmares? I'm sure at some point nightmares will break into the waking world and he'll transform there though.
>>23504823okay, you joke, but there's a non-zero chance that would be the premise behind his final form
>>23504538still mad the mammoth episode didn't use a sentai scale set
>>23504942His lucid dreaming alone wasn't enough to stop the gun nightmare, he still needed to transform. I don't think there will be a problem with the Nightmares being threats.
I did like that Baku didn't really have "two personalities" while in a dream but it was more like him having a boost of confidence from being able to act out his 007 fantasies
>>23504966Good, now gtfo! Ruin another franchise instead
>>23505750A character plagued with shitty luck in real life gravitating toward a profession associated with an almost absurd level of hyper-competence in media is an interesting premise. I'd like to see how his arc will pan out through the show.
>>23505311>911>year of 2000Wow, really catering to those teenage westerns
>>23505383>takahashi's apprentice Takano?
>>23504449Takahashi delivers yet again.
>>23504667>Didn’t like that the titular rider is another NEETHow else am I gonna self insert?
>>23505641>the character chemistry was fine sometimesCharacters were so schizophrenic and switched motivations too much for any real chemistry to build. It could have been okay but after Q1 characters started changing positions on a dime randomly. Biggest offender was buffa having a "I trust you" moment with Ace and sacrificing himself then turning evil like an episode later for no reason. And obviously Keiwa. It was like a dream and made no sense constantly.Saber was bad but the middle portion had some kino moments and desast was good too, so it is better than Geats. Also Ghost is better than most of Reiwa. Only 2 shows in Reiwa are better than it which is sad because it is the worst Phase 2. Ghost is aimless but none of the characters just randomly switch personalities like some of Reiwa and it has a couple moments. I really hope this show doesn't do that but I have no hope. Anyway, if Geats is a 1 and Ghost is a 4, Saber is a 3, so pretty not good but there are a couple moments and there are occaissons where the story appears like it may go to interesting places even if by the end it really doesn't.I think the only compelling character/moments in Geats from start to finish was Neon's dad and when Buffa "died" in Q1. Everything else was predictable or made zero sense given character personalities.Gotchard was mostly trash on the same level. Outside of Spanner and his crew everyone sucked and the villains were somehow even worse than Geats.I have very little expectations for Zeztz, especially based on this episode. At best I am expecting it to be maybe 6/10 but I am expecting 3/10 or lower, Geats shook my confidence in Takahashi that much whereas before I would say he makes consistently 7/10 stuff, flawed but otherwise good (but not great).
>South America getting henshin lesson translated too
>>23505837I hate how inconsistent this initiative to bring Rider to the west has been so far.
>>23504614>What to do in your twentiesThink they made a book called what to do in your thirties? Asking for a friend haha....
>>23505841It feels like a half assed effort. Like they aren't really doing everything they can to make Rider break into western territories.
>>23505844So far the only part I can give them credit for is that they didn't seem to fuck up the actual translation. Otherwise, the stream quality, the inability to watch eps on demand, side content not being touched depending on what region you're in, is all very lackluster. It feels like the only thing that functionally changed is that subs are a little faster now.
>>23504614>CIA>doesn't even powerstance once
>>23505844It's only a matter of time until they get a motorcycle loving gaijin to star in the Zeztz movie.
>>23504639>>23504670Take your meds.
>>23505383>Funnily enough Boonboomger's antagonist which aired the same year was inspired by the drug dealer Pablo EscobarAnd my surface level ass was just thinking of Micheal Jackson the entire time.
>>23505127Is any of the additional stuff translated anywhere?
I’m surprised the detective already saw his belt in the first episode. I was under the impression that Baku would be informing the police without tipping them off that he was the Kamen Rider, but I guess not.
>>23505851>Dr. Nem, I'm CODE
>>23505864Really says a lot about the pacing we're in for.
>>23505864They're going straight for the Kuuga relationship.
>>23505869>wants an idol>gets an ossan cop insteadhe really does have the worst luck
>>23505874That’s what Sae’s for.
>>23504449Pros: I really enjoyed it and almost everyone I watched it with thought it was great albeit clearly trying a bit hard to cater to a western audience while maintaining the charm of tokusatsuCons:Saberfags screaming out their assholes on the thread again
is this the first surrealist rider
>>23505894Ex-Aid?
>>23504508They purposely made it so that the pedo running away was easy to miss by having it on the top left corner with a bright ass yellow Hummer in the center of the shot. I like to think that the writer intended for him to fail at stopping the predator, but of course we can't have that in a kids' show. I'm just surprised they had the balls to include something like that in Reiwa Kamen Rider at all, haven't seen something that dark since Faiz
>>23505894>tertiary is Kamen Rider Lynch
>>23504449LikesI really like how they're incorporated English just enough to be cool and not obnoxious. The episode titles being English first then Japanese with official translations was a nice touch, it gives me the vibes that this is a show written with another audience in mind, and since Japanese children seem to love American heroes like Spider-Man, it's a win-win. Zero's voice is so goodThe opening spy sequence was an amazing way to introduce the overall theme of the show. Watching it with my friend, it was cool being shocked that the main character was using a straight up gun only to find out he was using rubber bullets. That's some Metal Gear level camp, which is goodAll suit designs are very solid so far, action was great without too many over the top elements. My favorite part during the final fight was when he threw the Nightmare into the building and smashed him through just enough scenarios too feel satisfying. Any shorter and it would have felt not enough His dream powers are extremely OP and I love that, but I have a feeling that we won't have very many dream fights going forwardThe villains being Lex Luthor level of cartoonishly evil in Baku's first dream was fun too, crowdfunding an idol's rescue just to kill her anyway as a dramatic ending wasn't a necessary detail but it was fun nonethelessObviously the nightmare sequence was incredible and extremely relatable how actual dreams and nightmares feel like. I do hope we get more stuff like that, but it's hard for me to see them continuing this level of quality for the entire yearI could go on more, but overall, this is the most promising first episode I've seen in a long, long timeConsHonestly, it's mostly nitpicks, like Nem's actress not being the best actor. Someone else mentioned that the cops' introduction felt rushed too, which I agree. It was kind of hard to keep up with all the info dumping
That was probably the only night fight the show will have.
>>23504449Nem's actress was taking me out of it whenever she talked.Otherwise it was great. I LOVED the chase sequence in his dream. I know they are definitely not going to keep up that kind of energy for the whole show but I really liked it
>>23505311>911 casesFuck off Takahashi
>>23505127>>23505171So she dreams of being an actress?
>>23505901>haven't seen something that dark since FaizGavv has implied rape as part of the protag's backstory and the implied notion that the villains would turn even pregnant women into food, Geats has a mook killing a baby (though it does get undone) and a child getting murdered by human kidnappers with us getting a glimpse at the corpse covered in a sheet.
>>23505894Kiva is way more surrealist. The moon and chains were already done by him.
>>23506016Don't forget Gotchard, the "kiddy" rider show, having a guy see his parents get killed over and over until he turns into a mindless monster, a kid forced to kill his pet, a student forced to watch his classmates murder each other and an actual child character dying on screen.
>>23505881>Saberfags screaming out their assholes on the thread againWhy are you so obsessed with Saber of all shows?
I'm afraid that the dream concept will create annoying plot points and contrivances down the line. Not that that's new to KR but dreams bring out a particular kind of annoyance.
>>23506025Anon got filtered by Saber and it lives on his mind rent free.
>>23505785The other one that's still an apprentice, Yusuke Naito>>23505383Takahashi is indeed supervising
>>23505860He's literally based on both, his prison, mannerism and personality are based on Escobar while his design and him having a pet monkey is based on Michael Jackson. So you're right.
>>23505864Didn't the producer imply in an interview that while Baku gets helps from the cops to solve the Nightmares, due to his bad luck the cops see him as the prime suspect of the crimes?
>>23506016>>23506022The difference here is that Faiz has an actual civilian committing suicide by jumping off the top of a building and Zeztz has an actual child abduction on-screen. These are very real compared to turning pregnant women into food and child murder
>>23506087>has an actual civilian committing suicide by jumping off the top of a buildingHe tried to, but he survived because he wasn't a human anymore.>These are very real compared to child murderBruh
>>23506087Child murder for a ransom is as real as it gets, the fuck you're on about?
>>23506095>>23506099By real I mean that these are topics that unfortunately are actual issues and fears in Japan
>>23506101The dead kid in Geats literally got kidnapped by adults similar to the girl in Zeztz. She got murdered because the dad refused to pay the ransom.
>1 chief producer with 3 vice producers meaning that the worldview could be really detailed like King-Ohger>The show having to be recorded early might mean that they need to plan better>The producer said that he wanted the first half with Nox as a villain to be slower-paced to make the world-building feel cohesive without stuff that feels cheap, meaning that it could potentially avoid what happened to Takahashi with Zero-One and Geats where the producer forced upon impromptu changes that made the show worse.>The secondary Rider this time was conceptualized by Takahashi and is the egdy rival type, meaning this could avoid the issue that his previous 3 shows had where the secondary Rider gets incredibly shafted>The setting isn't bland so Kami might direct a lot of episodes like he did with King-Ohger rather than how he was in Ryusoulger>Kami/Takahashi episodes usually being kinoI'm feeling optimistic about this season
>>23505917Didn't the trailer show other 2 night fights? One that will occur on episode 3 and one that will occur on episode 8? Although the might be simulated night scenes rather than actual night scenes like this episode
>[TokuScrub] Kamen Rider Zeztz [Web - 1080] E01 | Multi-Subhttps://nyaa.si/view/2016568>[HowlingSnail Edit of TokuScrubs] Kamen Rider Zeztz - 01https://nyaa.si/view/2016643
>>23506124>>Kami/Takahashi episodes usually being kinoThis is what has me the most excited, even during Zero-One's worst arc Kami managed to deliver
>>23506134>[HowlingSnail Edit of TokuScrubs] Kamen Rider Zeztz - 01>They say Henshin now, because I like it.My brother.
>>23506027Just like (you) filtered by Takahashi and gavvJust fuck off already
>>23506134is anyone actually subbing Zeztz
>>23506183Why are you so obsessed with Takahashi and Gavv?
>>23506187Ei said he might, but the official subs are good enough imo, and these scrubs makes them better
>he's still replying to himself trying to falseflag a forced rivalry between seasons and writersWhy can't you kill yourself when you have absolutely nothing to live for and everyone hates you, or at the very least stay on /krg/>>23505837Hopefully they also translate the special about Baku's sister but sadly I doubt they will due to TTFC
>>23504787It has a new monster suit at least.
REALRIDERSONLY
>>23506198>>he's still replying to himself trying to falseflag a forced rivalry between seasons and writersThat fag doesn't need to reply to himself to come up with his schizoposts. I know that because I'm one of the people he replied to.
>>23506205Then please don't reply to bait, you should know better by now
Will Izu or Geo be subbing this?
>>23506087That civilian committing suicide survived and became a giant horse man and the child abduction was foiled rather easily in this episode. If you're going to just base it on "real life" then all rider shows are thrown out the window for all being ridiculous and silly. Every Kamen Rider show is based on actual issues and fears in society; they are just translated differently.
>>23506230no
>>23506190>>23506230Ei supposedly will do it under a different name. Our trusty discordfags leaked it already since one of the people he's working with is a cloutchaser: EternalSleeper
I think this episode works a lot better for me if its revealed later everything was an act set by Zero to get this guy to become Zeztz. So much of the kaijin dialogue and how he gets the belt only really makes sense if this was all part of a coordinated plan. Maybe Nox was in it too as he pushed the car to hit him. Everything was way too coordinated to just be a regular Nightmare situation.
I finally have time to watch the episode. I love how stylish the opening sequence is. The action and the choreography are solid, and I like how it manages to justify the wish-fulfillment and over-the-top elements by virtue of being a dream. The cinematography and the costume design are good, with the exception of pic related, which I'm not sold on yet. I love the whole "dream gimmick"; it allows for some fun set pieces, and it gives them a lot of flexibility when it comes to playing with the location and the way time and space work. The protagonist is lovable, and the actor is selling me on the part. So far, it's pretty damn good. My only complaint is that I would like the show to lean more heavily into the whole secret agent shtick.
>>23504592Geats followed by Z1 had way better combat. Gavv started off well with the cramped parkour fighting but it merely looked clumsy later on and ditched it for open space combat, ending up looking indistinctive.
The show is taking a lot from Kuuga, I wonder if Baku'll have his own episode 35.
>>23506464How many kamen rider shows you've seen? Because this has as much of Kuuga as any other show with a protagonist that wants to make people smile, which describes almost all kamen rider heroes of recent years.
>777>no JACKPOT! voiceline
>>23506515because its really a ZZZ for the rider name and the sleep theme
>>23506577It's both
>>23506464The producer said he was inspired by Kuuga mostly on how the forms' work and the pacing, so ultimately it's up to the writer to have an episode like that, so it's likelier for Zeztz yo have an equivalent to Ex-Aid's "Houjou Emu!!" episode
>>23506590>so it's likelier for Zeztz yo have an equivalent to Ex-Aid's "Houjou Emu!!" episodeIt wouldn't surprise me at all if Baku's ground zero for the Black Cases because of his luck. The detective said they've been happening for a while.
>>23506590>YOROZU BAKU!!!>You might be wondering, why was it that your lucid dreaming power is so strong.>Why is it that you were 'chosen by CODE' to become 'the invincible number 7' and can transform into Zeztz>Why is it that you can reach the dreams of others so easily, almost like if the dreams come to you.>And more importantly: Why is that in the waking world whenever you try to reach out to people, you always end up in mortal danger.>That is because... YOU ARE THE CREATOR OF ALL NIGHTMARES!!!>AAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
>>23504449I digged it. The spy setpiece was a little clumsy but still fun to watch. The rapid dream transitions were surreal and low-key horror so that gives me hope there will be a bit more of that creepypasta touch to the bad guys. That long up close oner on Baku was just absolutely brilliant in terms of blocking, characterization, acting, tone and lighting. Sasuga Kami! That one scene and Baku's wistful reminder that everything he just did was all just a dream right as the credits rolled in sold me on him as a main character. I liked how they started off showing that Baku was going to be a MOTW victim only for him to rise up and fight back after being called out for being a loser IRL.The fight scene itself was a bit odd, like the suit actor was still getting used to the suit and couldn't quite nail the Kabuto 2.0 fighting vibe. I could see what they were going for but fell just short of selling it to me.
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>>23506581Also because it seems they are leaning in on association of Zeztz with 7, due to being the 7th Reiwa Rider.Baku's self-insert being Code Number Seven is a James Bond reference and the belt across the chest combined with the "scarf" makes the shape of a 7.
>>23504449The opening dream sequence was too long so we didn't get get a better view of the world and characters.
>>23506800It and Howling Snail are worse than TokuScrub and I'm really surprised that they managed to do that
>>23506847Worse how?
>>23506824That's what the rest of the series is for, anon.
>>23506850HowlingSnail has some weird retranslations that make it feel more stilted, also british termsEi removes translations for on-screen text and overtranslate some linesIt's weird because bother Ei and HowlingSnail fix some of the issues from the original official subs
>>23506888>overtranslate some linesWhich lines?
>>23506890The henshin callouts, honestly I'm overexaggerating when I say they're worse, it's mostly that none of the 3 feel definitive but I prefer TokuScrubs because they release earlier
>>23506924Understandable. Let's Wake Up was thought to be better than Awaken or Arize. However, not everyone's taste is the same. I will go back to the drawing board about it.
>>23506187Shoutfactory
>>23506187There's the official English subs, two other groups and the official subs from other countries. If anything we have more subs than usual although we'll never have as many as Subgoku
>>23506856Nah, you want a better look/impression of your mc and Baku came off as just kinda standard, nothing really standout or interesting about him.
>>23504449It was style over substance.
>>23506931considering when the standby phase of the belt has it translated as Arize, it was Awaken when Nox said it at the end of the episode. So 'Let's Wake Up' seems to long a phrase to me.
Well, I guess having kami, a good directing, better than average acting, good action with cool effect can't save a weak writingDefinitely one of the Kami's weakest episodes.
>>23506888yeah, Ei removed the translations of what was described for the Black Cases on the incidents and when it started and of the descriptions for Nightmares; that feels that should of been kept in.
Remember kids, bullying works
>>23507182But only one anon insulted him, the rest critiqued him normally, that's not bullying
I liked it, Baku is like a more optimistic Ryotaro and the dreams stuff is interesting enough to me. Just nitpicky stuff I didn't like, such as the goofy belt noises and so on. I hope the detective duo are cool.
>>23507002this was better than all of his previous first episodes aside from Zero-One
>>23507208Kami didn't direct the first episode of Zero-One
>>23506464>>23506590Nowhere near as violent or cathartic obviously but Ex-Aid did technically have its own equivalent to Kuuga's episode 35
>>23505055I meant in terms of characters, writing, and plot. Baku is just more likable than Takumi ever could be, all Faiz has is its vocal tracks (its instrumental ost is pretty shit and forgettable bar Blaster's theme), its suits (Except for kaiza which is ugly as sin), and its belt sounds (which I have no complaints about). And Faiz also has kusaka, aka the worst fictional character ever written.
>>23505450The concept of "children's programming" is flawed at its core. Why should it be inferior because it's made for children? Especially when other rider series have taken themselves seriously?Also come on, you know all the guns were there to appeal to Americans.
>>23505855>John Wick as a Kamen RiderUnironically this would be peak, but it should be /ourguys/ who get to be riders.
>>23504449The nightmare sequence was well done. There's loads of potential for creative fight scenes instead of the billionth fight in some grey city block or a fucking warehouse but they'll obviously waste it.The suit is ok but I still don't like the chest belt. I liked it overall but I'm remaining pessimistic after 3.5 disasters in a row.
>23507247Why bother pretending to be that anon? No one will take your shitpost seriously because this is barely the first episode and this is not /krg/, learn to have some patience in your life, if you're this impatient then you should just kill yourself
>>23506817"Zeztz" kinda sounds like the Spanish/Portuguese pronunciation of 7
>>23506965Maybe for you, but I think portraying him as a hopeless dreamer, yet still self-aware about his own faults worked very well and added some extra importance to his desire to help others even if it almost kills him.
>>23507386Not really, Zetzu doesn't really sound like siete, honestly besides the 3 Zs I wonder why they picked Zetzu as a name and how does it relate to the motif
>>23507391Almost every Rider protag becomes aware of their limitations sooner or later, Baku's not special in this regard.
Well... That was fucking good.My memory is kinda shit, but I don't remember Gavv first episode being nearly as good as this one.Is the director or producer or whatever, a different person?The vibe feels different I guess.I enjoyed having a main actor that can do action scenes even as the character is outside the costume.And it looks as if the themes can get a bit more philosophical and the action wacky and weird as fuck but very fun with the pretext of "it's a dream bro, it doesnt need to make sense".Frankly I'm having a lot of expectations for this series now.
>>23507582His suit actor was actually also his stunt actor for that opening fight sequence.
>>23507582>Is the director or producer or whatever, a different person?Almost always the producer, main director and chief writer is different each year, almost never we have the same one back to back. I think the last time we have the same producer two years in a row was Ex-Aid and Build, same director was Build and Zi-O and same writer was Skyrider and Super-1.They change staff every year to avoid overlap between seasons since that almost killed Super Sentai back in the 80s. Zeztz's producer is new to tokusatsu, the director has been a recurrent episode director since Ex-Aid but this is his first time as a main director for Rider, but he was the main director for 2 Sentai seasons, Ryusoulger and King-Ohger, lastly the main writer is the one who did Ex-Aid, Zero-One and Geats, he's also the guy that revived the Lupin III OP back in 2015 if you're familiar with that Anime.
I still don't like Zeztz' design but I was engaged throughout the whole episode so that's a plus
>The suit is 90% fabric with only the shoes and helmet being "hard" armorThis just feels wrong. A rider should at least have a chestplate. Here's hoping for one of the upgrade forms.
>>23507646And if nothing else at least the suit's quality is decent. I almost dropped Geats on the spot when I saw that the rider undersuits were just black lycra, it felt like such a downfall from the super cool undersuits of stuff like Ryuki.
>>23507582Really? Gavv's first episode went really hard, Shoukai's actor was also really good at action and the character was pretty metal in the first episode, also I thought Gavv's first fight was miles better than Zeztz's. All that said I agree that Zeztz's first episode is better, it's honestly one of the best first episodes we've ever gotten, I don't immediately like Baku as much as I did Shouma in the first episode but he's really likeable still and the set up is strong too, the direction is miles better than Gavv, probably because the director they got for Zeztz is one of the best in the industry imo.Unrelated but you made me realize that both first episodes of Gavv and Zeztz began with child kidnappers.
>>23507646It's honestly weird that Gozyuger is more armored than Zeztz, I wonder if the next Sentai season will also be really armored, the rumors about the theming so far given by that kimela leaker makes me think as such, it will be really weird having a year where the Sentai team is way more armored than the Rider.
>>23507582You're memory is just bad, Gavv's first episode was miles better than this.
>two years in a row where i loved the first episode>Zeztz's production seems smooth so farReiwa's start was sort of a mixed bag but it seems this new schedule thing, while it didn't change how things work that much, it seems to be helping quite a bit, I could see Gavv to Reiwa 9th all being great seasons.
>>23507736Revice and Geats had great first episodes, but look at how they turned out and were then followed by Gotchard. First episodes mean nothing.
>>23507767That's why I brought up>Zeztz's production seems smooth so farObviously we didn't know how bad Kinoshita was at the time but even by the time the first episode aired we know Mochizuki was trying to do too many ideas at once and Geats was made by Takebe who's the most experimental producer at Toei making her unpredictable, you're right that first episodes mean nothing I mean Zero-One also had a great episode and became really flawed later on and that one at the time seemed to have a good production, Saber had a bad first episode due to Covid yet it improved once Q2 came around.But I don't know, even though I really have nothing to base it on besides the new schedule which really hardly means anything I'm feeling optimistic about Zeztz even if some elements of the show might feel repetitive later on due to this being Takahashi's 4th Rider season so soon, I think it's because Yanaka is trying to emulate Early to Mid Heisei a bit and that considering how early the pre-production started and how it has multiple producers like King-Ohger it should be really hard to fuck this one up, although not impossible.
>>23507767Geats was fine overall, not great but still above anything in the Hibiki-Decade stretch if not by much.
>>23507628Wasn't one of the staff in Gavv involved in other two series that apparently were kinda bad ?I remember lots of anons commenting how the 3rd part was surely going to suck... And they were right
>>23507780>Takebe who's the most experimental producer at Toei making her unpredictableShe's the second most safe Rider producer after Minato, her shows are the ultimate test of how good a writer is because she's the one who will give them the most freedom out of anyone, everyone else is more controlling than she is. If a writer fumbles under her, it's undeniable proof of their mediocrity and incompetence to write these shows.
>>23504449It's shit. It's clear they're trying to pander too hard to western audiences, feels more like a Marvel Disney Channel spinoff than a Kamen Rider show.
>>23507582This post is the perfect representation of recency bias, because not only was Gavv's debut better in terms of fighting, it also had a considerably stronger motivation for the main character and a better introduction to the world.
>>23507797>Wasn't one of the staff in Gavv involved in other two series that apparently were kinda bad?Komura the writer? She was co-head writer in Wizard and main writer of Zyuohger, LuPat and Zenkaiger. Yeah, she can't really keep up the momentum of her shows, it's one of her biggest flaws.Though Takebe the producer has a much more uneven resume, being the producer of OOO, Go-Busters and Gaim, but also Kiva, Ninninger and Geats. Seems like she fell off in more recent years.
>>23507797Takebe is the producer who made Ninninger, the Sentai season which caused the franchise the current financial stagnation that it's trapped in. The main writer is Komura who wrote Zyuohger and Zenkaiger which were good but not exactly amazing, Healing Precure which is average and LuPat which was mediocre as fuck. That said the guy saying about her getting stuck in the middle was a shitposter, the interviews literally state that the reason it happened in Gavv was because the producer forced changes due to lack of budget and wanted the Stomachs to live longer due to budget. Same thing happened with her 3 Sentai seasons where Utsunomiya and Shirakura wanted the middle to not progress the plot as much due to kids not watching as much TV on Summer, and her Precure season was made by a director who makes hsi seasons generic. Komura's problem is that she shafts most characters in her shows, which is why all of Gavv's villains didn't have much personality or why Sachika was disconnected from the plot.>>23507799You literally don't know what you're talking about Gotchard was an extremely average season, that's not "safe" because it wasn't a critical success, in fact almost all of the shows' flaws were his fault, a producer trying to be safe doesn't necessarily mean he's a safe choice for a producer, it's not like we can properly gauge Minato anyway because he has only made one season. Takebe is the producer that gives the most freedom to the writer indeed when compared to other producers, but she's also one of the producers that forces last minute changes the most, she did as such in Kiva, OOO, Gaim, Ninninger, Geats and Gavv, Go-Busters which was the only time she didn't do that, was retooled under Bandai's orders due to the season bleeding money, that's not safe at all, her giving freedom to the writers also doesn't make her a safe producer, it means her quality will always be inconsistent.
>>23507839>she's also one of the producers that forces last minute changes the mostLiterally every producer does that, the writers are lucky that she doesn't try to force as much creative control and do as much ghostwriting as the rest. Taka-P changes his shows' entire premises at the last second, Ohmori was basically a co-head writer on his shows, Minato turned down a lot of his writers' proposals against their wishes, and the writer of Shirakura's one and only modern Rider show was basically his puppet. Mochizuki's the only one who seemingly comes close to her, but not only is he currently demoted, he also does major last minute changes just like the rest.Takebe shows are the closest you'll get to having a writer's untainted vision, the writer's influence is the strongest in those and that's why they turn out so wildly different despite all having her at the helm.
>>23507839>the interviews literally state that the reason it happened in Gavv was because the producer forced changes due to lack of budget and wanted the Stomachs to live longer due to budgetThe interviews didn't literally state that, it would be bad PR to outright admit they fucked up, this is what anons speculate caused Gavv's decline. The Stomachs weren't kept around due to budget, but rather because the staff, particularly Takebe, liked them. The budget/time constraints are what caused them to change Rakia's original background as an undercover cop.Either way, I don't think it's right to put all the blame on the producers for one of the common occurrences in Komura's shows. First, because she worked under worked very different people but still fumbled things the exact same way. And second, because more competent writers can maintain their shows' quality regardless of last minutes changes and mandates, just look at Urobuchi and Kobayashi.
>>23504942How is his clavicle that straight?! It's as if he never used a smartphone in his life. Amazing...
>>23507914>The interviews didn't literally state thatIt literally does though, but just now I realized I wrote due to lack of budget twice as if I had a stroke, my bad. Takebe said that the original plan was for Lakia to be an undercover agent and for Q2 to focus on the cast exploring the Granute world but they couldn't due to lack of budget. The Stomachs being kept alive was indeed because Takebe simply liked the actors though, Komura originally wanted to kill the Stomachs in the first half while a second mafia took over instead, said second mafia got reworked in to Bocca and Liselle to compensate for not being able to explore the Granute world on Q2, but then Takebe made the Stomachs live far longer than initially planned, she even comfirmed that Jeebh and Lango weren't supposed to make it to the last episode.I think it's fair to partially blame about the middle of Komura's shows to the producers because the interviews state as such and Gavv's middle's problem isn't the same as the problems of the middles of her Sentai seasons, in her Sentai the problem is that her shows basically have no plot in the middle aside from the extra ranger introduction, due to the producers not wanting people to be unable to catch up with the plot due to summer, in Gavv's case the plot and Hero cast kept getting development, the problem was the really awkward pace of it all due to the Stomachs originally being planned to be death, Komura initially leaving Lakia to other writers due to the original idea of him not being realized and whatever the fuck brought the clone plotline which we don't know yet. Komura's main recurrent problems are her inability to focus on a large castand her poor world building which is also present in all of her seasons. But it's also as you say, just like how Takahashi couldn't adapt properly to impromptu changes in Geats and Zero-One, Komura is the same, both aren't exactly bad writers but they're also not great either. Hope that Zeztz is closer to Ex-Aid
>>23508013>It literally does though,You're outright lying, at no point in any official statement did they ever acknowledge there was a lull in the middle. All they ever talked about were the plans that got changed, and the fans were the ones who attributed the show's dip in the middle to those changes.
>>23508013>I think it's fair to partially blame about the middle of Komura's shows to the producers because the interviews state as such and Gavv's middle's problem isn't the same as the problems of the middles of her Sentai seasonsYes, but you can't put the entirety of blame on the producers. Last minutes changes are always present in these productions, they should be expected. I would cut Komura some slack if it was her first or second show, but she's basically a veteran at this point and still can't adapt well to these kinds of changes that happen in basically every show. Gavv might not have it as bad her previous shows, but it still has this issue, which is something Komura can't seem to fully overcome.
>>23508021I answered here to avoid getting off-topic >>23508039
>>23508042>Yes, but you can't put the entirety of blame on the producersI didn't though, I literally said>>partially blame>>But it's also as you say, just like how Takahashi couldn't adapt properly to impromptu changes in Geats and Zero-One, Komura is the same, both aren't exactly bad writers but they're also not great eitherLike you said writers like Kobayashi and Arakawa pretty much have never had these issues with any of their toku
>>23504449What surprised me the most about the episode was Imai's voice acting as Zeztz, I really didn't like his voice during the movie cameo in Gavv but I guess he was forced to talk like that to give an idea of how Baku's personality as agent is, but in this episode his voice acting was great. Apparently he was instructed by his suit actor Kenta Nitta on how to handle the voice, I think he did a really good job.
The cinematography really made this episode stand out. Actually a lot more enjoyable than I expected. Looking forward to next week's episode.
>>23505843lol there'd be no point. Everyone's already figured their lives out by then.
>>23504646Nem is 20 years old while Baku is 22, the characters don't have the actors' ages. He's gonna creep everyone out because he's going to treat the real Nem like the one from the dreams, making him look like a total schizo.>>23504641>I like that the list implies a gradual decline to his psycheI hadn't thought of it like that, nice catch.
>>23504449>LikedBaku seems funThat nightmare sequence was really well doneThe core premise seems interesting in generalPersonally I liked the OSTI'm a sucker for detective elements in these shows so I'm interested in the two detective characters we got>DislikedThe gay henshin pose and the belt soundsThe fight was just ok, I think coming off of Gavv which had great fights is a tough act to follow though
Episode was just okay in my opinion. The different elements don't gel together that well yet and the characters and overall world are not established very well. I also have a sneaking feeling this is going to have a "mc was actually the villain the whole time" twist which I absolutely hate.I see potential, but I'm not optimistic.
>>23507767Geats had an okay first episode and revice had a bad first episode.
You zoomettes are not convincing me to watch Gavv. I'm sorry your first Rider is already getting btfo by Zeztz but this is the most promising start to a show in over a decade
>>23507401I think it's supposed to sound like Faiz. In a way I kind of wish the title was Kamen Rider ZZZ
>23508426Why do you type like a newfag zoomer that hasn't watched any tokusatsu besides Power Rangers and Build?
I see I hit a nerve
>>23508431I think Zeztz is actually called ZZZ in China
>>23508455Pronounced Zeez like how we pronounce OOO?
>>23508460It's probably still pronounced Zeztz
>>23508426>>23507804How can you both like and hate Zeztz at the same time? Did you not watch the episode yet? Why bother posting here then?
>>23508469Are you autistic? People can have deferring opinions. Unlike that other anon, I've grown past sucking Japanese cock and realize that not everything has to be "purely Japanese for Japanese audiences" and can still be good
>>23508482Because both posts type the same way and both seem like shitposts answers that pit things against each other without elaborating on the content of the show itself
>>23508511These are my posts, schizo:>>23505915>>23508426
>>23508518Then what brought you to bring Gavv up un prompted on this thread rather than /krg/ other than to be a shitposter? I really don't think >>23505915 is your post and that >>23507804 is yours, you type basically the same way.
I also want to add, I like how Zeztz's transformation isn't very flashy>>23508539See pic
>>23508194>The fight was just ok, I think coming off of Gavv which had great fights is a tough act to follow thoughAlso this was the post that got me to comment about Gavv
>>23508546All right, so you just chose to type >>23508426 as baity as possible for whatever reason. Zeztz's first episode is better than Gavv's anyway but Gavv is a good show as long you don't mind boring villain generals I guess. First episodes aren't exactly representative of how the show's quality will turn out later on since Zero-One, Revice and Geats had really good first episodes yet went to shit, but it's less likely for Zeztz to go to shit because the staff seemingly trying harder to emulate early Heisei.
>>23504449Liked the first episode well enough, but I need to see more episodes to see if the concept of loneliness that the producer talked about on an interview is executed properly
>>23505127Is the last one to be defeated Masashi Takada?
>>23504401>横山 一敏Yeah that's Kazutoshi Yokoyama who plays Leo Zodiarts, I'm surprised people aren't bringing this up that much >>23506618Her actress is Shizuku Ota, haven't bothered checking but I think she's underage, the actress of the reporter in the helicopter is Risako Arai and the mother whose child almost got kidnapped is Miyu Ueki
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>>23507208>one of the Kami's weakest episodesNot>first episodesAnd King Ohger first episode waas miles better than this everything-is-just-going-through-motions
>>23507804Please tell me what Marvel Disney Channel Spinoffs you've been watching, clearly I'm missing out.
>>23508558>Zeztz's first episode is better than Gavv'sIt's not, Gavv has a much better and more engaging first episode. Zeztz is just style over substance, it's decent style but that's all it is, there is no real meat to it.
>>23508889And what substance does episode 1 of Gavv have? lol
No webms?
>>23508990Moose hasn't been around for a while which is weird because Digimon hasn't come out yet, I don't know what happened to the other anon who made webms
>>23505311mentioning "year 2000" while having a police investigation going on definitively made think of Kuuga, maybe it's intentional
>>23507816Dunno, pog-facing with candy in a kid's garage wasn't very exciting. Granted the suit fight itself was better, but Zeztz compensated with the dream sequence direction, the gun fight in the beginning and the overall vibes, even if some plot threads are a bit unclear by now (which is fine, not getting immediate answers doesn't mean the story failed, intrigue for the future alone can make the episode exciting).
>>23507816Maybe it's because at the start of Gavv I was really worried because of Komura, but I liked Zeztz's first episode far more thanks to Kami's directing, Baku and his sister being likeable, and the setup being really great. Even if I do prefer Gavv's first fight and Shouma way more, plus Gavv's setting being more creative. If I had to rank the first episodes in Reiwa I guess it would be>Zeztz > Geats > Gavv > Revice > Zero-One > Saber > GotchardI just hope that just like Gavv, Zeztz ends up being consistently good and we're finally done with this Reiwa curse, I was really afraid that things would go to shit even harder since the instant we got the Ryusoulger guy as the president of Toei we got shows trying too hard to be safe like Gotchard and Boonboomger which reminded me a lot of Ryusoulger, but Gavv luckily was good, Gozyuger so far has been consistently good even though I wouldn't consider it a top-tier season at this point since it has way more flaws than usual, so far every interview we've gotten about Zeztz so far including the one today instills confidence and the themes for the next Sentai sound really interesting albeit messy.
If you were a NEET or someone who fantasizes a lot but feels powerless I think Zeztz's first ep hits on a different level. Characters like Eiji and Shoma are hobos but they're more akin to "free-spirits" than really feeling chained down like Baku.Minami wanting him to stay the same, the monster calling out his escapism, Baku getting nervous about stepping up to help to little girl, etc, fate beat him down to a state of insecurity, kinda like a less over the top depiction of Den-O, and Agent 7 is his own persona rather than another entity like Momotaros, both representing a "confident self" of sorts. So it's like Baku is a more nuanced Ryotaro (going by ep1).The pun of "dreams (sleeping)" and "dreams (for the future)" is charming imo, classic stuff that you see in Toei toku and mahou shoujo, but sometimes simple works the best.
>>23509186Yeah I really fuck with the "what's the point of dreaming if you can't make them a reality" and taking control of your life stance that Zeztz seems to be doing. I'm really hoping that they don't drop the ball on this, I've been waiting for a good seasons for way too long
>>23508426>You zoomettes are not convincing me to watch GavvYou didn't miss out on much.
Next episode can't come soon enough
>>23508978You get a much better look at Shouma's character, his joy and his regret and determination to stop the Granutes from stealing the same happiness from others that he was robbed of and can never get back even in a world that might not accept him.
>>23510049Uh you got all that from the first episode of Gavv? Yeah, alright bro
>>23510070That is the obvious stuff.
>>23510070nta and I do prefer Zeztz's first episode over Gavv's but yeah all of that is featured on Gavv's first episode, why are you complaining about a show you haven't watched yet? If anything you both should just take this conversation to /krg/ since it's getting off-topic
I think Zeztz should've been a two-horn beetle like Gatack.
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>>23510049You don't think this episode gave a good look at the sort of character Baku is?
>>23510049>>23510815You know, regardless of how well a first episode illustrates the personality of the main character, that doesn't mean that it's a good thing. It's nice to see growth in the main character, like with Takumi as Faiz who saw the belt as a nuisance that he didn't want to bother with only to realize it is his duty
>>23510815No.
>nearly 500 postsI take it /m/ liked this?
>>23511073I loved itMost fun I had watching a Rider episode in years
>>23511073Having lots of replies doesn't necessarily mean good, it could mean incessant shitpostingBut in this case yeah the first episode was strong
>>23511073Yeah, between Gavv and the production style Zeztz going for to guarantee success it seems like Rider is redeeming itself after the mixed bag period that was Zi-O to Gotchard
>>23510428>>23510432Imai's voice acting is really good, I'm glad that he changes his voice mannerisms this much while transformed
