--------------***READ THE OP***--------------***NEW THREADS TO BE MADE ON PAGE 9(NINE)***-OR-***IMAGE LIMIT REACHED AND POST COUNT EXCEED 1000***Previous Thread:>>23503408SUPER ROBOT WARS Y available now for PS5, Switch and SteamPV 3 - https://youtu.be/l7mAcX3q2bkDLC - https://youtu.be/kHxv1oD72_8Launch - https://youtu.be/QgYi233lr74DD News:New Layzner - Close-in Combinationhttps://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/1961718031799013883Hi-Nu Gundam - All-Range Attackhttps://www.twitter.com/srw_dd_pr/status/1961715518928548341For discussion on SRC (SRW fangame program), please join the dedicated Discordhttps://discord.gg/WrV2AhGIf you need help with any game try checking Akurasu for help (links for other resources also here):https://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars(add ?action=purge to the end of the url in case of a blank page)SRW Japanese Wikihttps://srw.wiki.cre.jp/Booruhttps://daitrombe.booru.org/Game Availability in English:https://pastebin.com/WYxB1iLuMusic Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LzxYHqDYBring Stabity's Quick Guide to Katakana:https://pastebin.com/x6FmxFGkGame Modification Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/k722v36xTranslated Plot Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/HAQ3qrSgArt Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/FyeZaW80SRC Pastebin V2:https://pastebin.com/NRPtThEZMake your own SRW character Pastebin:https://pastebin.com/DBj6NknkIf you wish to help with the SRW fan game they are always in need of more musicians and artistsPlease contact the following e-mail: suparoboeternity@gmail.com
when does the shop function unlock? Is it a chapter thing? Should I be doing something?
>>23506862Mating press Chise and Echika!
>>23506871Chapter 3
DLC interaction when?
Is this the first game where it's viable to hit the level cap just by playing normally? I'm halfway into Chapter 6 and everyone's hitting level 99.>>23506871The shop unlocks after clearing Chapter 3.
>>23506859Oh, so dark getter rays are actually the good getter rays. AKA Spiral Energy. Thats kinda funny.
>>23506881>playing normallyIt's basically impossible to define that. For some people, playing normally has them regularly hitting 99 in level scaling games. I think 30 is one of the few games where everybody rams the level cap effortlessly. Y, not so much, if you aren't grinding Fronts then you'll end in the 70s.
>>23506885
>>23506885Getter Rays overall are already spiral energy when you think about it, heck Ryoma helped Simon combine into SG Gurren Lagann with a fucking Getter Beam back in Z3.
>>23506892Getter Rays have always been amazing. People need to accept that as long as you're human, we'll benefit from it.
>Guel locks himself in the bathroom to avoid interacting with Suletta. What the fuck was the need for such nonsense? I guess after this scene "Bob" will never speak again.Well, at least, his Darilbalde has pretty good animation.
>>23506881Depends on the difficulty cause leveling is slower on hard and expertI'm in Ch6 and haven't done any fronts and most of my team is Lv55I think by the end of BX I was passing Lv80 on most of my team
>>23506900Reminds me of 30 having Banagher never taking off the pilot suit and roleplaying as some mystery man in a corner just to not interact with anyone in the team.
Is speaking the right choice to get the true ending?
>>23506898>we'll benefit from it.Saotome, Michiru, Genkei, and everyone towards the end of the Shin Getter manga disagree
>>23506892The parallels were always there by design. Getter Rays are the light of evolution that allowed mammals to surpass the dinosaurs and ultimately breach into space; Spiral Energy is the indomitable spirit of human progress as symbolized by the perpetual forward motion of a drill.
>>23506898>pic related: benefit
I hit 99 in J on one playthrough but it was definitely a NG+ run where I was abusing resource generation and keeping everybody's average level high as much as I could.
>>23506908>>23506910Believe in Getter, is all part of the plan...
>>23506907Bottom choice is true ending
>>23506914Thank you.
>>23506908I swear you make one super robot that tries to eat the universe and then the government gets all up on your ass. Land of the free my ass.
>>23506887By playing normally I mean not abusing repair grinding. I did as many Fronts as possible between emergency calls in 30 but I don't remember hitting 99, in Y I've been doing as many Fronts as possible and I'm at 99 with quite a bit of story left.
>Beat everything except for a couple of Windermere ships on the rout in 5 turns mapThat was kind of fun.
>>23506910Funniest shit I've read that in the Arc Anime, The Getter Go team did reunite. It's just that Go absorbed all of Gai's fatness.>>23506912Was Benkei going insane with Getter Rays part of the plan?
>>23506925I always look forward to what custom line Daba's going to do after this. He has a surprising number of them.
>>23506881Chapter 5 right now and my dudes average at 51.
Why was this man camping in Asticassia? Surely just wanting to sell his goods to the Benerit group and perhaps hit Frejya's party right?
>>23506908>>23506910>>23506919>>23506912>>23506926They live on in Getter Rays. It's all for the sake of humanity being preserved. Trust.
>>23506926>Was Benkei going insane with Getter Rays part of the plan?Just like every Getter fatso, he learned and came to understand the true plan of Getter for humanity.
Sveet Raid or Six and a Dragon?
>>23506930he dropped into America first when he came to earth so he just thought that you could just sell guns at any school
I'm starting to think maybe these Getter Rays aren't benevolent and helpful.
How long does it take for Shion to unlock Battler? At this rate, I'm going to ace him before he unlocks the skill.
This must be way different if you get Izuru's ace before Ch5
>>23506932What if everything people blame on Getter Rays was actually Ryoma influencing them
>>23506938Getter can just be dangerous if uncheck , but it operates with benefit of humanity in the end. Besides they helped plenty in other games.Like upgrading Mazinger into Mazinkaiser the first time back in F or saving Rebuild Asuka's life back in V.
>>23506942It's the same general conversation but they don't namedrop Midollo.
>>23506946I wouldn't put it past him
>>23506933>>23506938>>23506932How come Getter 2 pilots are the only ones who get happy lives? While Getter 3 pilots gets absorbed, and Getter 1 pilots usually die second.
>>23506951>happy livesYou mean the ones with survivor's guilt over losing their best friends?
>>23506941I believe Shion gets Battler when he gets the Bellvine, which is Chapter 5 in What Makes a Battler.
>>23506930Poseidal selling guns to kids fits his inceldom pretty well.
COME BACK, PLEASE
https://questant.jp/q/X5CSBQZ6#page1What were your choices from this questionnaire?
>>23506957I wasn't even aware of this...
>>23506955Next OG group should be Harlock-esque space pirates since we just got ninjas.
>Tyranado instead of Gespenst
One year since the passing of Emi Shinohara.
>>23506972Haven’t reached this part yet, is this actually Gauma hitting on Akira’s mom?
>>23506900How decent is Bob?
>>23506955I wish they would do a game that even surpassed V's level of ships. I want Super Ship Wars goddammit.>Arcadia>Yamato>Macross of some sort>Ptolemaios>Bebop as an actual ship
>>23506951>How come Getter 2 pilots are the only ones who get happy lives? While Getter 3 pilots gets absorbed, and Getter 1 pilots usually die second.I wouldn't say Hayato or Kamui had happy lives, even Sho felt sad and didn't had closure over her companions. The getter fatsos are the heart of the team, so naturally they come to understand Getter on a more intuitive sense, of course with very fucked up results. Getter 1 pilots are usually more complex because it is clear Getter develops a liking to then, they are strong willed and try to defy their fate most of the time. So of course it wants individuals like then to keep leading the charge and to never let go off then.
>>23506979Outlaw Star would be better than either of the last two.
>>23506986Kallen is pretty violent in the bedroom.
>>23506991If she ever scored of course.
>>23506976His ace bonus. He looks more like a Mazinger/Gundam Fighter pilot than a real robot pilot, which makes sense in SRW Y.
>>23506904But fucking everyone knows who he is so it just makes Banana look even weirder.
>>23507001>is also one of the best pilots in the game>thinks he can keep up the farce despite his one in a billion skills and Newtype abilities
Sex with Banagher Links.
In-universe the thought of real robots attacking large Super Robots like Reideen and Getter makes me chuckle.
>>23506996>Has Defiance>ACE gives him more skill for some reasonWouldn't it make more sense for Defiance to always be active, completely disregarding the Skill Reqs, as his ACE?
>>23507008It sure would. Assuming the damage formula is the same, eventually that ace bonus is worth like 4-5% more damage. Pretty shit.
>>23507004I just had him spam his finisher in the C-Packs so he can soredemo at people, worked better than expected.
Did they give Hayate a placeholder ace bonus? It's like a net damage loss of 5% against most enemies since it turns off Defiance.He's not the only one with an underpowered ace, but its definitely the most egregious. They should fix it in a patch but then again, Jonah never got the +NT Level he needed either.
>>23507014>>23506996>>23507008Does he even use CQB for any attacks? I'd expect an ace bonus like that for Keith or something if he was playable since he has the sword
>>23507012>he complains about being bullied in stereo by the fairies and quessgot a chuckle out of me
>>23507006>Dopants, Kamen Rider W's enemies are seen in the DLC trailer>Probably be stages where these enemies can attack....the A AdventWe might have a contender for most mis-sized match up incoming.
>>23507023Scopedogs attacking Shin Getter will never not be funny.
>>23507012>>23507018>Being shouted by a pair of fairies and Quess of all things.>Despite all, Quess clearly trying to support him most of the time..Gyunei is kind of lucky here, he just doesn't realize it yet.
Surprisingly Suletta's story line feels the darkest, we're talking artificial newtype and implanting people into machines Warhammer type of shit.
>>23507014No because it has a specific thing that increases if Freya is your assist
>>23507023>>23507026Reminds me of Heroman and the SD Gundams back in UX, since they are human-sized in that game. Only gets funnier when you consider how big the final boss of that game is.
>>23507014That's mainly on Defiance being a fundamentally flawed concept for a skill, since it makes you weaker as you get stronger.
>>23507023For me it's Bonta-kun vs Black Noir from Mightgaine in V
>>23507033Literal ants clawing Kali Yuga to death.
Master Asia (if unlocked) joins near the end of Chapter 6, during Getter's fight in Antarctica. His Master Gundam joins with 3 bars of upgrades.Quite a few characters have quotes against BUG's pilot, and he also has a few quotes against some of the main characters. He tells Daba "I can't trust everyone like you do, Daba".
>>2350702330 does goes out of it's way to make the Bio-Weapon enemies spawn only when the Ultramen are present in the map.
I don't know if this is the best idea but the results are sure to be hilarious, Echika
Does anyone not use the DLC units at all? Their almost complete lack of presence in intermissions made me not care. And I was planning on using Cybuster and Xelguard because I love magic robots. And I wasted my money on the ultimate edition.
>>23507032Its just +2.5% more with Freyja.>>23507034Defiance is fine on characters with mediocre to bad skill since its easier to trigger when Expert gives everyone +10 SKL. Hayate's problem is that his ace does next to nothing unless you equip a specific supporter when it could have easily been>Defiance is always active, +10% Evasion Or some random remotely synergestic shit.
>>23507029Well, the prologue of the show is basically a clean-up massacre of people doing shady stuff. It contrasts with the high school setting in many places.
>>23507044Yeah it's weird as fuck, even the DLC units in 30 would actually chime in and interact every once in a while but here is like they don't exist unless for their respective events.
>>23507044The V protags start solidly, but fall to the wayside pretty fast. Cybuster isn't the monster he was in the prior games. He desperately needs stronger attacks.It doesn't help that MAP weapons were nerfed to shit in Y. Even the bosses MAPs are shit, and only kill unupgraded units.
>>23507046I can't begin to express my the extent of my contempt for obvious pandering to young demographics with the school settings in recent Gundams.
>>23507051Cybuster is pretty good as a MAP attacker, the problem is that you get Kira quite early and hes just straight up better besides his not being post move
>>23507042I can already hear Annina dreading this news
>>23507044I used Xelguard in the early stages because of how early the sub pilot has the "Cheer" spirit. I use both V units early too because they're good heal bots. Cybuster had been very useful for CyFlash, especially for Relic stages that requires all enemies destroyed in a turn. The Tyranados, yeah no, they're pretty worthless.
>>23507056I don't know if it's because I'm playing on Expert, but even with 10 upgrades, his MAP does less than 2000 damage. It doesn't help that he only learns Valor/Soul pretty late. I've been using Wing Zero's and L-Gaim Mk II's MAPs way more than Cyflash.
>>23507044Rex is pretty good and gets better after you get the upgrade attack backXelgard is decent and comes with Dogmas which are very usableMasaki has Cyflash and that only gets better, and is generally still very nimble and quickV's protags are usable early game and okay laterBase Tyranado is the only one that feels like it's picking up dust with the ReGZ and Methus
Hey they forgot to call it Super Alloy
>>23506951Hayato was pretty miserable all things considered. Stuff worked out for Sho I guess
>>23507062Its range and damage are cut down before you get the upgrade stage for the V duo and Cybuster.
>>23507057That or she's going to start publishing yet more stories about Echika's "developments"
>>23507066My guess is that different people worked on different parts of the game. For example, the achievement "Mental Fortitude" still uses the wrong translation from SRW 30.The achievement is written as "Activate every spirit command under the Search tab in one unit", when it should be "have all Spirit Commands available at once in the Search tab".
>>23507066There is a bit of an inconsistency problem with the names in the english translationKaiju Club or Eugenists? Delta Flight or Squad? Nobel or Noble Gundam?I think I saw more but I can think of these 3 for now
>>23507071I'm talking even after upgrades.I think it's just because things get way overtuned way too quickly on Expert. Rodans start being cannon fodder that you kill in 2 unupgraded attacks, then suddenly they have like 12000 HP.
>>23507054How old are you?
>>23507073I think most of the skills and parts were copy-pasted where applicable cause Extra Arms S still has the wrong description tooAnd SP Supplement still gives 80 SP to the main pilot instead of 40 which I'm not sure if its a bug or they missed a line in the description.
>>23507068more like a farts ace bonusthat's really bad
>>23507070Well she had Schwartz and his american cock to help her cope with, that said she wasn't as involved with Getter Robots from was point on.
>>23507006It's extremely funny playing as Shin Getter in Another Century's Episode 3, because all the units are to-scale and you just swat the mechs from other shows away like little bugs. Especially when you're fighting especially small enemies like the Dunbine ones.
>>23507072>Echika/Chuchu doujins start showing up in Yuri Mart
>>23507054>school settings in recent Gundams.What even had a school setting in recent Gundam besides Gwitch?
>>23507044I actually started using them a lot more later. The Vangs are really good at the start where 2-4 post-move attacks with good power and no morale requirements are actually incredible, then they start falling off until they get their upgrades at which point Vangnex is okay and Granvang is pretty great. Both of them having ammo-based finishers is very useful. Xelguard is only good for its Dogmas at first, but as it levels up it gets just about everything you could possibly ask for: a main pilot with Drive and Soul, a subpilot with Resupply and Bravery, another subpilot with Press, powerful ranged and post-move finishers, and it all runs off RNG so you can just pump Amari with Gunfight and RNG parts. Send it on a Relic mission to get to level 60 early and it becomes easily the best one. Tyranado Rex is never really on their level but it's certainly not bad once it upgrades, and Cybuster with its upgrade is a pretty great MAP attacker that can also hold its own in single combat.
>>23507080Wrong.
>rewatching Big O because of Y>No Big O themeFuck you Queen I thought Brain May was cool and liked that one britbong version of bomber x...
>>23506900No he does appear in scenes every now and then.
>>23507091Queen without Freddy isn't really Queen.
I have not being upgrading my skills at all. I really need to fix that but this kind of min maxing always gives me pause.
>>23507090>>23507080>>23507068It was more useful in the VXT games where you didn't have supporters like Sayaka & Jun to shit out Gain and Fortune to everyone on demand, not to mention Green's capstone gives it to everyone once per map for free. I've never felt so hard-up for a Bless/Wish caster in Y that I wanted to deploy Fa for it.
>Angry Chuchu The delinquent has an array of dangerous faces.
Wish is pretty good since it's 50% HP, more efficient than Trust/Faith on beefier people and your battleships.
>Borot actually gets repaired>Still not playable, not even a Map sprite>Instead it's just hanging out in the city off-screenDisappointingThat said it's nice that Echika appreciates it. And Boss, Nuke, and Macha willing to take her for a spin on it was wholesome.
>>23507100Finally, The Age of Fatso.
Chuck is so much cooler than Boss Borot, it's unreal.
>>23507094Fighter's Spirit, Attacker, and E Save are the important ones, then Break Morale Limit and Infight/Gunfight can come later. Lucky Star's also not a bad pick if you're going to use the unit a lot, you'll probably make back your investment if you get it early enough. Later L1 is overkill because you're going to start maps by popping Sayaka/Jun, and then later Teoria which is going to pop Mirror, so you'll be starting maps with Gain/Fortune on everyone anyway, so if you're going to take Lucky Star then take L2.
>>23507102
>>23506740In hakai they're 00 gundams with energy efficiency, and ozma comes with continuous action.They're good in Z3 because MDE is awesome in squad games where you can act multiple times after killing squads. Ozma's ace bonus increase basara's buff for his partner, and Alto's custom bonus gives him S rank in space and sky.
>>23507109Gyrozetter, my beloved series.
>>23507045His ace bonus should be extra 20% evasion and hit with freyja equipped
>>23507099After how they did something I thought they'd never do again and brought the Mazinkaiser movie back into SRW, I hope next time around they include the Mazinkaiser OVA since it seems like that's one of the few ways we'll ever get Boss and Sayaka back as playable pilots.
>>23507121Why does it have abs, anyway?
goddamn they did a really good job on Aerial Rebuild, glad I didn't spoil myself on its animations
>>23507127Because hes fit
>>23507054Name another Gundam series with a school setting that isn't explicitly marketing towards children like the Build series. Which even then, barely spend any time at school.
>>23506881I finished the game in the 70s because I don't bother spreading levels evenly around chapter 5
>>23507127Mazinpower is stored in the abs
>>23507137I see.
>>23507054>obvious pandering to young demographicsSo you don't like Gundam
>>23507125Always Sayaka and Boss, where's the love for Jun?
>>23506955Why haven't Yamato and 999 made a crossover officially before Leiji Matsumoto's death? It can't be lawsuits because THEY'RE FROM THE SAME CREATOR!
>>23507121At what point of the game you get that?
>>23506881If you're playing on Normal/Casual and get the +30% Exp node on the STG ASAP and you actually pay attention to who gets kills, level 99 is quite possible. If you do fronts as a means of slingshotting underused characters for forced deploys that chapter, that will also help.
>>23506996Dumb bonus. He is better than I thought though 25 Press is pretty handy
>>23507102I always think Jet Jaguar is the Successor of Fatso, since he's built with junk like Boss Borot, but with a choppy AI installed inside him.
>>235071575 SP turns with an SP Recoverer over Char which is a notable difference over Char's 10. The main problem with the things is it takes them so long to get their finishers.
Domon taking on all these new students really brought a smile to my faceShinn, Suletta, Hayate, Hyoma, Kallen, even Jet Jaguar are officially pupils of DomonSuletta especially being so into it was really funny
>>23507164Even with his upgrades Hayate's damage output is piss, unless he gets yet another upgrade after the drones.
The DLC Getter vs Dyna is fun but they probably shouldn't have chosen two of the most busted units in the game to be pressured by these mooks>>23507059Early game Xelguard is super useful even if just for Dogmas
>got Messer's intermission skitDamn I thought all of these were silly.
>>23507080Nah that's solid. Cheap wish is nice when the game can be pretty hard hitting and assist bonus boost is better than some aces like say Rain's who just gets Love auto cast once per map at 150 morale
>>23507044yeah it was so nice watching Ogami doting on the Rayearth girls and Kenichi from Voltes V, let alone all the stuff going between the Ultraman(let)s and Gridman. Y is lazy soulless slop compared to that
>>23507167Poor Izuru.
>>23507176
>>23507167Don't forget good old Bob.
>>23507167He also takes in Bob
>>23507175Just deploying Echika with a full green grid I'm starting with the Assist gauge completely maxed out.
>>23507175Yeah, most of the once per map ones are so bad, Jet Jaguar has the only one with enough effects on it to make it feel worth it. A lot of them should be at the start of every turn.
>>23507184>full GreenNot worth it. Up to +50% Credits and the outer +2 Assist points is enough.
>Forgot about Gridknight>Kaiser Gridknight time>Gridknight is like 10 levels lower than the rest of teamWhoops
>>23507091I think someone on nipponese twitter made a post recently saying may was okay with them ripping off the flash gordon theme but didn't want to reuse it out of respect or whatever.
>>23507179>>23507181Domon cares about troubled youths
I know it's never gonna happen but I just want to see a SRW where all the major series are time travelling to later installments.>OYW era Gundam flung into F91 or Crossbone plot, along with whatever AUs they think they can make fit>DYRL (never ever thanks Harmony Gold) and Delta>Mazinger Z and Mazinkaiser SKL or something>Toei Getter and Getter Arc>supers from the early era are all the big, chunky, slow ones that don't really look "modern" like Big O, etcI'm sure there would be some glaring thing I'm missing that would make it not work out but man I think it'd be cool
>>23507141Heero should be support attacking with Masaki
It's minor but I still hate how they transliterated エーアデント (A.Ardent) as A. AdventThere's a cafe named after the ship called Aアデン (pronounced the same as エーアデント without the ト) and they actually called it A.Ardent. Fuck you bandai.
>>23507176>let alone all the stuff going between the Ultraman(let)s and Gridman.The one with Akane being all flirty and throwing herself to the Ultraman guy was hilarious. Also the Getter Devo team also had some great interactions despite being DLC, the dialogue they yet with Alexis being aware of Getter Emperor
>>23507167Suletta should have the Sekiha tenkyoken in the next Dynasty Warriors gundam
>>23507176The Ogami and Kenichi bit.
>>23507195>DYRL (never ever thanks Harmony Gold) and DeltaWouldn't Macross Plus work there as well? at least considering the plot of the Second Delta movie. Seven could also work just for the interactions with old Max.>Toei Getter and Getter ArcIt would have to be Manga Getter if you want Young Ryo interacting with Takuma, Toei is a different continuity.
>>23507207>Wouldn't Macross Plus work there as well? at least considering the plot of the Second Delta movie. Seven could also work just for the interactions with old Max.I just have a soft spot for DYRL so would really like to see it back, but adding Plus too would be cool as well>It would have to be Manga Getter if you want Young Ryo interacting with Takuma, Toei is a different continuity.Would also be cool yeah. Ultimately I just think it would be neat to have a SRW where all the main series are time travelling to other installments. Would probably be a nightmare to write and such though and I'd imagine it could be limiting on the series list
>>23507178
Why doesn't she ever get to be DLC?
>>23507176Sakura Wars is souless slop and should have never been allowed on the roster, waste of a pick in 30
>>23507224Honestly kind of surprised as well now that you mention it, she would sell really well.
>>23507227bait used to be believable
>>23507231Shitty ass mechs, never used them
>>23507201If Ple can't get it, then Suletta definitely doesn't deserve it
>>23507233Ogami's mech is really good, actually.
They should make a DLC where Echika wears a micro bikini
>>23507242it looks like shit and so does he
>>23507243Echika and Forte in matching micro bikinis
>>23507245You're just jealous he gets to date Sakura-chan.
>>23507250I hate Sakura.
>>23507250i dont even know who that is
>Start map>Everything tries to kill Akira>He runs out of EN and SP while finishing the turn at near deathWhat is it about Reideen that makes everything want to kill him?
>>23507248What about Anina as well?
>>23507261They are scared of the god voice
>>23507224Cybuster has Cyflash, cheap Akashic Buster and Cosmic Nova. What does she have?I mean, I'd only begin to consider buying the DLC if she has Engetsu Sappo.
>>23507178IIRC, in the Project X Zone games, Ogami managed to make Aura blush. She's an A.I.>>23507207We'd also get Mirage's 14 year old aunt.
>>23507197>Fuck you bandai.Just be happy you're not a Digifag and have to deal with fucking Saban tier dubbing names to this very fucking day
>>23507253This is Sakura, whom the series is named after.
>>23507267The best part of Project X Zone was in 2 when Sagata Sanshiro and Sakura had bits together referencing their old sakua war sagata commercials.
>>23507276I dont care, didnt use her either
>>23507192>didn't want to reuse it out of respectWait is that why the replacement song was called Respect? Lol. I found a DVD rip so it's all fine now. Who needs bluray quality. Fucking I cant find Kamen Rider W seeds though I thought thatd be easy to find.
>>23507285Its kind of annoying that Kaiser Gridknight doesn't do what SKL Wing Cross does in UX and share all skills between pilots. It sort of discourages you from teaching anything other than SP Up/SP Regen to Gauma.
>>23507250If anon isn't, will once you know that Ogami gets to have THIRTEEN WOMEN AT ONCE by game 4.
>>23507288It's not that bad, I can just dump all of Gauma's team's SP on the turn I feel like ending the map and just combine and get a free refill and use like, 4 Burning Grid Rex Roars in one turn
>>23507241Ple copied a few techniques in the cutscenes though
>>23507241>>23507302https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M61oa3tOsL8
>>23507294When you're on Expert and higher level skills eat 5+ parts, I don't really want to be wasting skill parts if I can avoid it.
It was my gut feeling with such a Melee bias early on that it wasn't worth trying to do something else with him. It's not like the Epyon is good in D either, though. I could put him in Sandrock, I guess. Zero System gives Heat Rod less damage than Maganac Squad. Also, Heat Shotels are a better C than Epyon's Beam Saber. They couldn't even give that. Sandrock is cheaper to upgrade too, and 3 parts. That's the main thing that annoys me about Epyon. Am I really gonna spend 380k for a fucking 1-3 5k ATK when I can spend 100k less on Sandrock and do more damage? Epyon might have good base stats and it's really spammable, but I dunno.
>>23507314if you're on expert you just don't buy SP Up anyways because it's not worth it and Attacker is a much better value purchase
>>23507319Everyone has the same super ace bonus
>>23507321I meant to buy 1 level on everybody since that's cheap enough but I kept forgetting and never got around to it.
>>23507017He doesn't. They might've had B forms with a knife earlier in development but they shitcanned it and left his ace bonus as-is instead of being something decently-substantial like RNG, SKL, and EVA+15 and Freya gives a 50% bonus instead.
>>23507282I think that was just a coincidence.
>>23507321And I still wouldn't be shelling out Attacker on Gauma until everyone else has it and whatever it is they need.
>>23507326Attacker is probably as or more efficient than buying weapon upgrades in most circumstances, I'd say.
>>23507332YOU ARE THE!
I don't give a shit about Macross. Are any of the units worth using?
you're telling me the girl called Mikumo "GUYNEVER" is not a lesbian?
>>23507199Bring back Devo Getter with Arc when we get Gridman Universe. The whole "parallel world theory" thing might somehow fit in, and the Arc Team would be shocked at seeing a Benkei who names himself Musashi.
>>23507337They're nice enough filler for the passive buffs. Also not reliant on beams which is nice against the L-Gaim people
>Y if G Gundam was actually going through its plot.
>>23507330In terms of cost1-5 Bars: 45k for +250Infight/Gunfight 4: 105k for +200/+16-10 Bars: 105k for +250Attacker: 135k for 1.2x11-15 Bars: 180k for +250Infight/Gunfight 9: 413.25k for +250/+1
>>23506900He's like the Char/Graham but worst personality.
>>23507343Honestly yeah it would be a good fit, not to mention they would have to spice up Arc with something else when it comes back.
>>23507288While it's a bummer, dynazenon is still a good boss killer because it doesn't care about resource at all.
>>23507348Yeah, it's not exact because, MAPs for example, want every bit of power they can and can have significant gains if they cross a threshold of bypassing armor to start working off of damage multipliers. Proportionally, though, the increase to your damage multiplier from Attacker is going to be significantly larger than the damage increase you get, the first 5 upgrades are cheap enough that it's pretty close since you can access them a lot earlier but once they start being around the same price I think Attacker should end up a lot more damage. But that's all my gut mental math feeling.
>>23507350>>23507343>Takuma meets Devo Ryoma and is disappointed he's so small
>>23507199>>23507343>>23507350Also this dialogue, Alexis apparently knew plenty about Emperor. It would be really interesting if they do try to pull up Devo, Arc and Gridman U in the next game.
I want Toei Ryoma back just so he can witness Clone Musashi's death and immediate replacement.
>>23507338Does she ever fuck a guy? Can she fuck?
>>23507167I wouldn't be surprised if Suletta becomes Domon's another favorite next to Shinn. Her spirit is that high.
>>23507364She barely even talks to guys, she's basically a non-character for most of the show. It's possible Roid fucked her while she was under his control though
>>23507359Well it is a teenager version of his father, an alternate one at that but their interactions would be really funny indeed.>>23507362Didn't Toei Ryo took his death the hardest alongside Michuru? He would end up traumatized I guess.It is funny that Noir team are clones and yet they do reference the Toei team quite a lot.
>>23507361Devolution was great as DLC because I can't see the "IT'S A SIMULATION" plot working without Gridman and maybe Mega Man Battle Network.
Well that seemed like a good use of money, then.
>>23506900>What the fuck was the need for such nonsense?If you're trying to pretend to be somebody else, it makes sense to dodge people who would actually know you
>>23507372I'm sure Kamui and young Hayato would be entertaining too. Really hope they decide to bring Devo back to pair it with Gridman Universe
>>23507359>Devo Ryo picks a fight with him on the spot>both reach complete understanding with one another afterwards >Devo Hayato meets his Arc counterpart >asks why he has adoption papers set up
Do all three of the getter arc pilots benefit from each other's ace bonuses or is it solely the main pilot? >>23507381Jet Jaguar fucking rocks
>>23507379Digimon actually might work Especially something like Savers or Xros Wars
>>235073558000 HP1880 Armor149 Def200 CQB6000 Power(150+200)/200 * 6000 = 10500(150+149)/200 * 1880 = 2810.610500 - 2810.6 = 7689.47689.4 x 1.2 = 9227.28 or ~9227 damageNow9227.28 + 2810.6 = 12037.8812037.88 * 200/(150+200) = 6879.36So Attacker was equivalent to adding roughly ~880 Power. Of course, if the ratio of attack to defense is small, then you'd get more out of weapons/infight/gunfight.
>>23507394>Jet Jaguar fucking rocksI'm still really early on, so he hasn't done much yet, but I keep fielding him because I like him. So far he still just has his default attacks. Which aren't anything special, although him coming with a repair option has kept him useful even if he hasn't gotten a lot of kills. This was a pretty big buff in stats, though. When does he start getting more attacks or abilities?
>>23507392I feel like there's a lot they could do if they paired the two of them together. Devo Ryoma in 30 was lacking confidence or something like that and having Ryoma be a legendary figure in the Arc timeline could work with that
>>23507404Jet Jaguar gets a minor stat buff in Chapter 3 on a side mission and his real finisher very late into the game. If you really want to leverage JJ's talents, teach him Support Attack, Enhance Attack, Morale Break and Morale Limit Break. It gets really dumb when you're peeling off up to 18 Morale per support attack.
>>23507379Gridman, Build Divers and Zegapain would all pair well with it. I think you'd just have to commit to another big parallel world game. Which is fine, as long as it feels more purposeful than Z2, Z3 or V.
>>23507404he's more of a utility unit in my experience. The analyze debuff is cool, repair is great. I'm only on late chapter 2 so I assume he gets his day in the sun later
>>23507404He doesn't get any new attacks until basically the end of the game, but he does get another all-around stat boost on A Warning of the Future when he gets upgraded with Combattler parts. With all his upgrades he's about as dodgy and tanky as everyone else, but his damage output will still be extremely low. You can more or less fix this by doing the simulator battle sidequest and giving him the Extra Arms S you get from that, which will lock his Lance at 7000 power.
>>23507405Not to mention it would be hilarious if Takuma would act like a brother for an alternate version of his father, probably the other two members as well. also the fake emperor fight would fit quite well for Arc's plot.
>>23507379Zegapain would work I think. Hell, I think you could sort of work ReRise into working with it too.
>>23507404I'm just using him as a support, personally. I slapped Maintenance Skill on him and gave him an A-Adapter, an External Resupply Device and a consumable SP restoration item. He's a portable Yuri Mart
>>23507379>>23507418Yeah honestly the only viable way I think they could pull off Build Divers, maybe it would be another virtual on situation like back in Alpha 3.
>>23507404hes meant to be a support, use him for his aura, cheap analyze and to finish of small enemies
There's an extra arms S in the game?I only got the normal one and by postgame I had only fronts available
>Amuro actually alludes the Shangri-La kids at one pointWeird to have Judau sit out. >>23507423Re:Rise literally has a plot device that makes the Gunpla real. I think you could do all kinds of stuff with that in a crossover setting. Let alone just saying "They used Sounderous to open a portal to GBN and bring the cast to the real world" or something.
>when you plan to only use the V duo for a bit of the game and then they're in the top five aces on the final stage
>>23507418ReRise also took place on a real planet outside the solar system, so they could slot it in without being bound too hard to the digital world
>>23507432Well Haman still died, so Judau probably left after being tired of the earth federation, even more so than regular UC
>>23507430You get Extra Arms S from doing one of those NOAH Brand challenges and shooting down everyone. It's either the first or second challenge that Seivas makes. You just have to kill everyone before you shoot down his Stella.
>>23507432>Amuro actually alludes the Shangri-La kids at one point>Weird to have Judau sit out.Perhaps he just didn't wanted to involve then in more conflict? They defeated Haman so most likely fucked off to space.
>>23507432>Weird to have Judau sit out.ZZ is just not very popular
>>23507439Weird, I'm fairly sure I did all of them and killed everything in all of them.I do remember there was one where he rushed forward before everyone else so I might have killed him first in that one.
>>23507447This is not a sane thing to complain about regarding Super Robot Wars. Fucking J-Decker got into the 30th anniversary hallmark game.
>>23507430iirc, you get it from one of NOAHS challenge stages in Chapter 5.The objective is to shoot down Sistis but if you shoot down everybody else first and then Sistis, you get it from Otaki.I gave it to Chuchu and now she's one shotting Aura Battlers and Heavy Metals without a care for counterattacks.
>>23507449You must've. If you kill everyone. Otaki chimes in and congratulates you and gives you the Extra Arms S on one and the Otaki Masterpiece (Or whatever its called) on the other
>>23507451>Fucking J-Decker got into the 30th anniversary hallmark game.Isn't J-Decker massive in Korea?
>>23507452>>23507455Yea I only got Otaki's Masterpiece
>>23507456https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/20060179/#q20061103-Mogami says that requests for Braves remained high with SRW V, X, and T. He had heard that J-Decker was extremely popular in Korea, so he went with that series next.
>>23507456Koreans love J-Decker and farts. You'd know this if you watched Metal Cardbot or Miniforce.
When do I get other gold missions, I did the first two. I would like to recruit imouto soon
>>23507461The final quest in the chain is only available in chapter 6 onwards.They had no off battle dialogue though.
>>23507167I really hope she and Miorine will do the love love tenkyoken someday.
>>23507462>chapter 6unfortunate, I planned on taking my time doing the dlc fun missions and such now that I got bob and rebuild
>Henken mentioned as being alive and dating EmmaRadish chads vindicated.
>>23507463there'd have to be some love in that relationship
>>23507485Well, they're Ferdinand and Miranda in wfm afterall.
I hate to really keep rubbing this in but goddamn the Wing characters look weird. Sai Saici is bigger than they are.
>>23507490Pretty sure most Gundam protags are short. Probably because most of them are teenagers aside from Domon or CCA Amuro.
Kaiser Gridknight can be combined without being next to each other? Man, new players keep getting spoiled.
>>23507451sure but J-decker doesnt have to compete for a spot with like 15 other gundam shows which are more popular
>>23507494The problem is they don't look short. They look weird.
Baby don't hurt me...
>>23507488dont reply to drool
>1068 reviews already in steamThis will surpass srw 30 very soon
>>23506979>>23506985An admitted long shot, but it'd be fun to seeI'd imagine the Bentenmaru would get some busted Electronic Warfare ability that pops Disrupt + Analyze for a turn
>>23507490Aren't the boys just high schollers?
>>23506979If only. I want heavy bridge jargon.
>>23507499That's fine, I just wanted to post that.
>>23507485https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSzOqcRo1C8Unironically, there is more love and trust in this scene than any Gundam couple has ever gotten except Garrod and Tiffa.
>>23507498This 14 year old is a menace
I just desperately want to have Turn A and Ideon in SRW againPreferably in the same game
>>23507506>Aren't the boys just high schollers?Them and about a good third to half the rest of the cast. They look out of scale. Even next to Echika they look wrong.
>>23507495Just be careful that the combined unit will appear back where Gridknight is.
>>23507447They definitely wanted Zeta/ZZ/CCA to be a trio for a long time. Even having Kamille and Judau show up GC/XO and OE, both of which take place during the OYW, for no reason. I guess now ZZ is probably only show up occasionally when they feel including it from now on.
We really do need Gundam X to come back
>>23507498I can teach her...
>>23507512And this is a 3 year old.
>>23507520Gundam X has a huge devastating beam rifle so I'm all for it.
>>23507511Garrod and Tiffa are my favorite too since I was a kid 2bh.
>>23507490>>23507494The scaling.
>>23507525How tall is Noin?
I think some of the event triggers for Macross music are somewhat bugged, since it defaults to the base version instead of the Premium Sound equivalent sometimes.
>>23507528Meant to post this collage, but Noin is apparently 165cm.
>>23507530Aren't there some songs that are in the base game but not the premium pack?
>>23507531So Relena just attracted to his craziness...
I hope he'll be in the next game with the GQuuuuuuX cast.
>>23507404You give him support attack lv4 and bully boss to oblivion
>>23507532Yeah, but the first opening is one that's in both.
>>23507534She seems like the kind of girl who wants a boy she can dress up like a doll, which in spite of everything Heero fits to a T.
>>23507145If we got Venus A anyways from Kaiser Jun's is a copypaste anyways
So this is a retarded question but how do supports work? Sometimes I'll see a little SUPPORT-1 or 2 over a character so is it just a matter of parking them next to each other? because sometimes it doesn't seem to tick
>>23507550support attacks can only be used by units that have actions unspent that turn
>>23507145Jun even fought in the movie. She did poorly but still. Getting real sick of you short changing the dynamic shit, game.
>>23507552ah, so that's the rub. thanks for the clarity.
>>23507537With all of its timeloop bullshit and it's "just move on from Eva bro" messaging, it'd actually fit in well with GQ
>>23507556Funny thing about Sayaka and Jun being supports in Y is that they didn't even get that in T or 30.
>>23507447I want ZZ and Unicorn in the same game again for the Marida/Purus interactions.
>>23507564Didn't V also have Mineva wanting to cuck Banana for Judau?
>>23507511That scene is really good yeah, you can say a lot of things about the gwitch but the romance was really good
>>23507561>>23507552>>23507550The supporter also has to be able to reach the terrain the other character is on. A flyer might have to land to get supported sometimes, that kind of thing
>>23507550>>23507552Following up on this, say you have Cross and Chuchu next to Koji, Cross has one Support Attack left, Chuchu has two (both shown when selected)You select Koji to attack something with Turbo Smasher Punch, at the bottom there will be an option for the Support, with who it is (in this case Cross or Chuchu) to the rightYou can change the Support Attack to and the Support Attack-er with that option (Cross and Chuchu can only use an attack that's in range, with one having more range than the other)When you attack, you have Turbo Smasher Punch first, then the enemy attack, then the Support Attack
Hayate's a lot less shitty once he gets the Lildrakens
>>23507556I want all four of them to get Kaiser/Emperor G level upgrades.
>>23507519You could see in real time how Judau became irrelevant and it just became the Amuro and Kamille show
>>23507575remember to thank Jesus Yamato for somehow fixing up Hayate''s VF with them in like 30 minutes
>>23507577Which is weird, because V having the Purus helping save Marida feels like such an obvious layup you'd think they'd want it around more often - but Unicorn was phased out shockingly quickly all things considered.
>>23507537I hope Gqux debuts in DD
>>23507575It's like a 200 attack power bonus. Even with Gunfight L9 he's at 6850 when units like Suzaku are at 7450.
>>23507590>it gets in and finally advances the IBO plot>Mika doesn't understand a single word this loud red dog is saying
>>23507590When will they localize that?
>>23507603Probably never. I think it's a little too late for that.
>>23507149It IS lawsuits. Leiji didn't actually work on the project since the start, so Yoshinobu Nishizaki (producer of the Yamato anime) managed to get the rights from Matsumoto due to a court decision in the early 00s. That's why even before that the crossovers of Yamato with other Matsumoto series were always limited. There was already litigation behind the scenes.>At the beginning of the 21st century, Earth is attacked by mysterious aliens called the Rajendora. Their missiles bombard the planet with radioactive contamination, and humans face extinction in just one year. >One day, the attack suddenly stops. The Rajendorans attacked the Earth with the intention of taking it over, but they have withdrawn their hand because of the advanced state of global radioactive pollution. The surface of the Earth is covered in boiling magma and all living things have disappeared. Earthlings can only wait for the slow death of extinction.>One day, an answer is found in the wreckage of an alien spaceship that makes an emergency landing on the surface of Mars. The ship came from the planet Iscandar in a solar system 20,000 light-years away. One of the Iscandarians lived long enough to leave a message for Earth to try and reach Iscandar, then he died. The scientists construct an Asteroid Ship with an engine based on the Iscandar ship. This ship is named Yamato. This was a story draft and design from before Matsumoto joined.Although some of the set up is very similar to the final product, the aliens wouldn't be very relevant. Most of the conflict was going to be within the ship's own crew, with the Rajendoras only facing the Yamato directly at the end (although they face leftover automated forces before), when they return with the device to eliminate radiation.Matsumoto joining the project was what changed the focus to fighting against Gamillas. Also, the entire cast was only prepared after he joined.
>>23507589Marida doesnt get that much to do in V sadly, I was kinda dissapointed with that, although they did a good job with riddhe
>>23507149It's really cute how you think creators got to own all their creations. Never lose that sense of innocence.
>>23507288Dynazenon on its own is still insanely busted and I use them separately until it's time to erase some bosses
>>23507348Attacker's a lot better value than the 6-10 bars cause 20% of even a 4k attack is already +800
Is it weird that I don't really feel like this SRW was that eventful?Discussion around it has been pretty tame. I want to say "boring" but that's way too strong a word to describe how I feel about it.I feel like I've just "been here before" with Y.
>>23507590It'd already be there if they were rushing its debut for DD. It's 100% being kept for console SRW like G-Witch was.
>>23507622that's only how attacker works in MX where its applied to base damage, every other game it's final damageif with 4000 damage your attack scratches a boss for 1000 damage it only becomes 1200 with attacker
>>23507263No cows
>>23507600Mika should kill Machu and just adopt Nyan into Tekkadan
>>23507606Forgot the image.
>>23507626I mean would rather everyone call the game fucking garbage like with T and 30?
>>23507626People like Y and are enjoying the ride
>>23507629Yeah, it's not exact, but it's still a good idea of it since we're mostly improving powerful attacks to begin with, with a note that if you're trying to MAP then you tend to want more base damage. But it hardly matters since you're gonna take Attacker and these things anyway. As a general rule:>5 Upgrades > Attacker > Gun/Infight Lv 4 > rest of your upgrades > Gun/Infight maxed
>>23507627it took around a year for Freedom to get into DD, its to early for Gqx, give it a few months and well see
>>23507567>>23507511Even Garrod actually see this from the crossover. He knows what's up
>>23507645DD still had to finish the SEED Destiny's story last year. Anime like Bravern, Evil Lord of an Intergalactic Empire! and Grendizer U got much more quickly into DD.
>>23507409For all the times we've memed on him for wanting a girl that could be a mother to him, it's funny seeing Char start acting like a dad in the game
>>23507626It has flaws, yes, and there is always debacle about the series included, but Y got one very important thing right and that is gameplay, there is more variation on objectives, terrain matters again (a little), difficulty levels are actually challenging without being bullshit like AP.Besides, I wouldn't call it 'not eventful' when pretty much all threads since release broke the 1k post count and full image limit. This game probably raised traffic on /m/ by itself, and I wished 4stats wasn't broken right now so I could see some activity graphs.
>>23507629Its a bigger increase than that if you're doing low damage because of a barrier
>>23507626are you talking about the games or the threads?you don't see in depth discussion when people are still playing the game, they come later
>>23507567There's good reason why people got super annoyed when the execs tried to turn them being married in the ending into something more ambiguous and then immediately had to walk it back to the original version. The relationship was built really well.
>>23507626It's much less ambitious than 30 was, but also a lot more coherent. I'm into Chapter 6 now and it's a lot more positive of an experience so far. Pros: >Actual difficulty for the first time in a long time>Plot and setting feel much more coherent>Animators getting better at CG models>Branching/altered stages feels better implemented>special system/ability animations still play, even if will is maxed out at the start of a battle>Original cast and mecha is a bit more impressive than 30'sCons:>QOL stuff missing, like being able to mass cast spirit commands>New UI makes it hard to tell what enemies you're casting spirits like Analyze on>Music selection gets worse and worse>Lack of squad/twin/tri system makes it hard to balance a big rosterThe plot being a big step up from 30's helps. 30 had all that cool-sounding stuff in its backstory, but the actual plot of the game felt lacking. If they patch in some of the missing features or tinker with the UI a little, that'd amend a lot of my gripes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6FuIPW2L-8&This is my favorite song in D so far. It's really good.
>>23507674>New UI makes it hard to tell what enemies you're casting spirits like Analyze onyou can still cast analyze the old way
>>23507680nah all that does is cut you back to the mapyou can't go back to a menu and see who's piloting the units you're casting it on>>23507674you CAN mass cast spirits but the problem is that it's slow and counter intuitive to how it was, you have to press a button on the spirit menu and that allows you to mass select them with a different button, then you press the first button again to cast them back to backsince the spirit window doesn't close I just cast them 1 by 1 because it was unironically faster
>>23507674>>Lack of squad/twin/tri system makes it hard to balance a big rosterBoy ain't that the truth. I really want to deploy the whole rabbit team but then you need other units and it just becomes harder to justify
>>23507691Yeah having an average of like 15 deploys is still a problem, especially when you have a lot of non-protagonist units you want to use but don't get much of a chance to.
>>23507686>since the spirit window doesn't close I just cast them 1 by 1 because it was unironically fasterlol yeah, I don't know why it can't be mass-cast with A/circle
>>23507686>>23507680I meant the ability to cast, say, Accel on everyone who has it. If you can do it, I can't for the life of me figure it out. It used to be you could just search for people with it, then click them all off on a list and then everyone would cast Accel. It definitely takes too many button presses to cast a bunch of spirts at once on a single pilot though.
>>23507691thats the real problem with non-squad games and supporting characters, there is no real reason to deploy Tamaki or Suruga over Show or Suletta unless you wanna make the game harder for you
>>23507700I didn't know you can do this in the first place>>23507701it's a game with literal hundreds of stage. you can use seed gundams in stages with physical enemies and then the rabbits on enemies with lots of ranged attacks, etc.
>V-X-(Librasta)T>NOAH(s)His presence is looming
>>23507705It was a standard feature from at least Z onward.
I always use my personal faves the most, even if it means having half a dozen Braves sortied.
>>23507705Different units have different niches, but most rabbits are just mediocre at best, everyone of them has another unit in the game who does exactly what they do but better except for izuru and kei
>>23507713Kei is worse because she's replaced by something that doesn't even take up a deployment slot
>>23507691>>23507674Every game since like V showers you in so many resources and have catch up mechanics that you can easily raise two full teams worth of units with no issue whatsoever. Hell that's why the final maps give you 24/30 deploys respectively.
>>23507674>>Lack of squad/twin/tri system makes it hard to balance a big rosterI think this might be what Y was "missing". Sine sort of squad or assist system is needed because otherwise we just end up using flagship units every stage.The supporting cast needs more function going forward to give these games even more focus on the gameplay.They could do something like "If (x) unit is used as a supporting attacker in a squad, it gives (x) amount of EN at the end of combat" or something like that.
>>23507626I wish I could talk more about it but I’m still only in chapter 2. I’m enjoying it despite all the doomposting before the game dropped that thankfully went away once people started playing it
>>23507717sure but its easier to justify a slot for a medicore unit if its a support unit, Jet Jaguar is mediocre at best in combat but you dont really care since you dont want him for that
>>23507626A lot of us are still playing through it, give it time. Hard to have too many in-depth discussions when people’s progress is still so varied.
>>23507724Jet Jaguar's mediocre damage output pre Extra Arms is irrelevant when the fucker casually makes enemies take like ~15% more damage as long as he takes part in the battle.
>>23507724you wouldn't be saying that if you were in range of JJ's mighty 10000 damage PP
>>23507722More ways to get the player to use pairs and characters who have relationships beyond the odd handful who do get a combo. Arad gets pretty nice ace bonus that helps his squad out but I also don't want to field Arad because I have enough issue finding room for the Delta squad members I actually want
>>23507717>amazing support spirit set with rare main pilot Resupply>better part of Ropet for free on turn 1>Jamming + stackable aura>good enough damage to clean stuff up with Rabbit Formation, which you can unlock really fastYou don't know what you're talking about.
>>23507722Twin system would place this game into legendary status for me.
>>23507730>asually makes enemies take like ~15% more damage as long as he takes part in the battleyeah thats what I said
>>23507737That's anything but mediocre. JJ is nuts.
>>23507738if it didnt give analyze on hit he wouldnt be, which is what I said, hes a support unit, read man
>>23507717She has saved my ass in more maps than I can count with her aura (I even gave her a part that gives commander aura lvl4 that stacks with her own). She's a godsend in Expert!
>>23507733I literally beat the game on expert and by the end of the game I was just dragging her useless ass along because I was too invested in her already.Evasion without spirits basically doesn't exist in endgame, and spamming Ropet becomes trivial as soon as Echika gets some SP recovery support.>good enough damageThe fuck it is.She doesn't even have a damage spirit or a guaranteed accuracy spirit.
>>23507720It's a matter of having to arbitrarily choose people when, in past games, I had a lot more freedom to use people that weren't just protagonists.
>>23507701>Tamakiaside from the delicious shortstack curves in her cut-in?
The rabbit team sucks total ass other than Izuru.
>>23507748> I had a lot more freedom to use people that weren't just protagonists.There is nothing in Y or any of the other singles games "forcing" you to just use protagonists. That's something you're doing to yourself.
>>23507749i means sure, but we where talking about gameplay, nothing stops you from fielding a bad team if its characters you like
>>23507754>>23507701Suruga is like the only pilot in Y with innate Support Attack 3 and Freichutz has 5k base power even if its expensive at 90EN a shot. He's up there with the likes of Chuchu, Mirage and Cross/Forte for low effort/high return support attackers.
>>23507749>>23507754Wasn't Tamaki good in 30? Didn't really used her as much that one, but I get that game was easier anyway.
>>23507745Evasion tanking with focus is still somewhat possible even in the final showdowns. For me it only stops working in the literal final stage with those 70 boss units, I have no idea how you can survive enemy phase in that stage without spamming flash and persist.
>>23507753You're intentionally handicapping yourself if you're using non-protagonists.
>>23507753Exactly this, I've been fielding people like Chuchu, Rain, Chibodee, Allenby and Bob as much as I want with no real problemsI usually field at least one other valk pilot with Hayate as well and have been using L gaim side cast too
>>23507757no, she was bad in 30 too, all the rabbits are generally bad aside from Izuru if you care about tier lists
>>23507758For me it was only with very specific exceptions like Suzaku leveraging his 1S size alongside his final 80% evade bonus from passives alone or Heero at the absolute peak of morale, with Agent and Potential both active, or Forte with 15 bars on mobility, a Haro and Master NINJA
Ace Chuchu during enemy phase is just chef's kiss. She's one of the few i have 15-barred.
>>23507753Except for the mid-mission spawns that will punish you for not having certain protags deployed. Or the fact you're being given an arbitrarily low number of characters to use per map in a huge roster.People that argue in favor of no pairs/squads and low deploy limits need to admit they just fucking hate the game and want every mission over with as fast as possible.
>>23507768I'm surprised the shitbox she's in can survive more than 3 attacks
>>23507761Anyone who can reach between 5.5 and 6k with 5 bars can be considered acceptable since that's where a lot of reals end up dicking around at for most of the game. You can even aim a little lower for support attackers since they deal most of their damage through other means.Some side characters also have very strong ace bonuses as well.
>>23507774You shouldn't have to do that though. Back when they had squads, you could use a little bit of everyone.
>>23507772When you like her you'll make it work. I gave her guard just in case and i have persist ready as assist.
>Assist joins at the start of stage>no way to change Assists during deploymentwho okayed this
>>23507674>>23507722The lack of any sort of squad system is the most baffling thing for the last few games. The best games in the franchise almost all had some kind of squad or pair system. Alpha 3 was the most epic (as in the classic use of the word, not "le epic") game in the franchise because you felt like you had an actual army of robots at your command in every stage. The scale of the battle felt immense, and put the "Wars" part of the title in play.Especially if you're going to keep giving us series like MJP or Macross Delta where they just drop 5 or 6 units in your lap all at once, where pretty much all of them will sit on the bench because why the FUCK would I use them instead of any number of named characters?30 in particular DESPERATELY needed an Alpha 3-style squad system. MJP, Victory, GunxSword, all the many, many UC units, etc. Not to mention when the DLC dropped. Such a huge majority of the cast just sits there the whole game. I'm not ever gonna field a Gunblaster by itself if I have deployment slots.But if there was an Alpha 3 squad system? Or even a Z style one? I could split the Rabbits into two squads and use all of them every stage. I could have the girls in Victory backing up Uso, and spread them into squads with other characters. I could put all three of the Rayearth girls in a squad together, and then throw Lantis in there as their fourth when I get him. Etc, etc.
>>23507626Honestly, going by videos and what I've seen of the dificulty, that area, plus the story has been a huge upgrade compared to past games. The big issue so far is animation quality still being an issue, and the new style for sprites looking terrible.
>>23507770>Or the fact you're being given an arbitrarily low number of characters to use per map in a huge roster.It's not really arbitrary, the unit counts in this are too damn high even, modern SRW eclipses just about any other big SRPG in this regard. We need stacking units.
Z or Alpha 3 squads are bad, I don't want to have regular 30 plus minute long intermissions making sure everything is finetuned to my playstyle, only to have to do it again next stage because someone joined, left, or is a fucking retard who's breaking my squads and force deploys.PU or Twins is as far as it should go, 42/44 deployment slots should be enough to satisfy everyone.
>>23507787>We need stacking units.OE truly was ahead of its time
>>23507770>People that argue in favor of no pairs/squads and low deploy limits need to admit they just fucking hate the game and want every mission over with as fast as possible.the thing with squad games is that the devs think they have to be cute and it needs a gimmick to differentiate it from normal play and i never liked a single one of them.>K rewarding solo units more with chain attack>L-BX removing parts entirely, and essentially gives everyone haro and chogokin z by the endgame>Z3 is a hybrid between alpha's platoon and og's pair unit and it comes with proto exc and interacts weird with ALL attacks (they fixed the latter in tengoku at least)maybe 2nd OG is the best one but MD has veeery low deploy count anyway so it's moot.
>>23507791They don't really do the leaving thing much any more, so that's figured out. Force deploy, you fix by carrying over their paired up unit, unless it's also force deployed, which is regrettably one instance where you have to break the pair, but that only matters if you have both of those units paired. Sadly I don't expect them to go back to a more strategic style of design but that also eliminates a lot of the more tedious parts associated with pair-up since things are a lot more rigid in modern SRW.
another point against squad games is that it generally just reward map attacks more because it ignores the whole mechanic entirelylike, they made this elaborate paper scissor rock balance with z1 squad and then they all die to one valor'd seven swell anyway
>>23507807I think it's practically impossible to balance being able to deploy 30 units like this, not to mention it gets annoying moving all these units, doubling up on them is the perfect solution for it really, you can cut it down to 20 and still deploy 10 more units. Make map attacks weaker, remove ALLW. They can figure it out.
>>23507784>>23507722Tri/Squad Systems only give you the "illusion" of characters contributing when in reality the squaddies are nothing more than glorified spirit pools because you're going to be funneling most of your resources into the leaders anyway.Pairs are the upper limit of where people can contribute and still feel like they matter.>>23507794Most of K's cast don't learn Chain Attack until 30-40 and even then the game has one of the most aggressive cases of dodge decay in the franchise, so if you can't one shot the target (ideally with Counter)), you're better off having a partner who can support defend you and soak up the damage.
>>23507807Heero was my top ace in all my playthroughs of Alpha 3 because of that busted TBR LMAO
>>23507810you have to make map attacks useless entirely because at the end of the day they still don't interact with the pair/squad systemALL attack is fine, i think it's balanced well since Z1
>>23507626It's a little boring and the missions feel a bit cookie cutter. I'd like to see a return to some of the old, more batshit missions. Glad for QoL but this is less a "step" in the right direction and more of a "pivot" in my opinion.That said, I'm having a good time but there does need to be a better way to use some of these characters. Squads or teams or something.>>23507784Even though I knew it was coming, it's like "wow, another half a dozen units I won't use? awesome." I'm sure there are about 10 majestic prince fans who are extremely hyped but there's no reason I'd want to use any of the shitty six. I don't want to use any of the macross pilots either since I know they borked hayate with the ace bonus. >>23507787Yeah this really is the play. I don't think they're going to straight up bring back squads but I feel like there's a way they could essentially make units function as equipables. To be clear I don't want to fuck around with squadbuilding to make sure everyone has the same movement type/amount and that kind of bullshit. Just let me attach like emma in the mk. II to shoot a bazooka as the equivalent of a support attack when I have 120 morale or something. >>23507794ugh man chain attacks
>>23507813Alpha 3 generally ends wihen Banpreios joins in stage 44, or 35 if you're on Serena or Cobray's route.
>>23507815maybe make map attacks not have the ALL affix. That would work for me desu.
>>23507815I wouldn't say useless, just limit their range a lot more and make sure they're not easy to spam and that can still make them feel useful while not dominant.
>>23507750What is Rose 3 even good for?
>>23507810They should stop trying to increase the deploy cap up to 24-30 when you spend 80% of the game with just 15 units. It was my biggest petpeeve with Hakai and while its true that 30/Y have fronts, I instinctively don't like doing grind maps and will do everything in my power to avoid doing them.
>>23507822Eye candy. She looks great!
>>23507822On paper it's a dodgy real with lots of bulk.In practice it's a KMF in every single aspect except magnitudes worse other than M size for damage, which doesn't matter when its weapons are so bad, and it's getting hit a lot more often
>>23507822cheerbot just like mirage
>>23507817So what if Hayate has a meme ace bonus? That doesn't invalidate all of the good things about him or Arad/Mirage for that matter.
>chise threadBASED AXIA
>>23507822well, the issue is that if you include more than one, then you've gotta include them all and there's just no real use case for them.Hell, contrast/compare stuff like the brain powerd or nadesico units. But even in this game, what's the use case for the rabbits versus some of the other teams like the wing boys, the shuffle alliance, the macross goobers, or even the zeta ladies (kamille is a girl's name after all).
>>23507830Mirage still has cheap Flash and the best return for support attack damage in the game.
>>23507756You can just park him duck back to the battleship and keep sniping after a resupply after he runs out anyhowOr once you start rolling out Attacker, most stages don't last long enough for long range units to run out of juice>>23507763Blue 1's the only one thats straight outclassed. Tamaki can just run circles countering things with Extra Arms in 30 and that's fine, can't really afford to do that with anyone on Expert in Y until much later in the game so you'd have to play catchup after upgrading and getting some high end parts.
>>23507764I'm deep in Ch6 and I haven't even pushed anyone but a few of the supers to 10 bars and with Disrupt and Focus up pretty much anyone dodges fine enoughJust get Instict to reduce the damage of the stray hits and don't leave them somewhere they'll get absolutely focus fired, but you don't generally need to worry about actually losing anyoneHell half the time I park Kallen somewhere with Wall up she doesn't even take a hit and she's definitely not built for dodging
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/134748128
>>23507833Both the Brain Powerd and Nadesico units are designed to huddle around each other and spam cheap, refilling and high-powered combo attacks. The Rabbits are more like the G Gundam units in that they do have a combo but it's not the main way they function. It's different. Plus modern SRW lets you use the combo without using them all anyway, and it's not like it's in any way convenient to get together for a 5 man combo.
>>23507854>Dark skinnedI'd rather read NTR doujins.
>>23507858I thought the point of Brains is barrier sharing in squads. They absolutely sucked in J.
>>23507674>QOL stuff missing, like being able to mass cast spirit commandsThats still there. Its just triangle instead of square for some reason.
>>23507874They're basically J's funnel bots. Sure, sure, it's MAP attack spam, the game, I know.
oh Chise and Mina thought Master Asia was a woman because they only saw his ponytail
>Aerial Rebuild loses the cheap low will long range snipe moveY really loves doing this
I love how much this game relentlessly shits on Wufei. Nobody gives even an ounce of consideration to his argument, it's just universally agreed he's out of his fucking mind.
It's weird how l-gaim robots look so ahead of its time but it still has that stupid core fighter motorbike
>>23507902there's points in the game where he makes it clear he has no fucking idea what he even stands for himself, he's just talking for the love of the talk
>>23507905You're a stupid core fighter motorbike.
>>23506862Software Sales (physical only)1. [PS5] Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater – 603,585 / NEW2. [PS5] Super Robot Wars Y – 260,532 / NEW3. [NSW] Story of Seasons: Grand Bazaar – 46,586 / NEW4. [NS2] Mario Kart World – 3,185 / NEW5. [PS4] Super Robot Wars Y – 30,969 / NEW6. [NS2] Story of Seasons: Grand Bazaar Nintendo Switch 2 Edition – 1,148 / NEW7. [NS2] Kirby and the Forgotten Land – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Star-Crossed World – 1,174 / NEW8. [NS2] Donkey Kong Bananza – 0,440 / 286,1199. [PS5] Lost Soul Aside – 4 70,374 / NEW10. [PS5] Minecraft – 7,344 / 3,989,90811. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 7,223 / 6,429,75312. [NSW] Nintendo Switch Sports – 212 / 139,90313. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons – 408 / 209,01514. [NS2] Super Mario Party Jamboree – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Jamboree TV – 23 / 17715. [NSW] Super Mario Party Jamboree –,388 / 1,379,550
>>23507906Wasn't he also salty about being left in the dark about the Zero Requiem? I know Heero knew the truth about it, but don't know about the other Wing boys.
>>23507909Y isn’t even on PS4, so I have no idea where you pulled these numbers from.
>>23507909WE WON
>>23507916They're fake.
>>23507909>5. [PS4] Super Robot Wars Y – 30,969 / NEWbait list, Y isn't on PS4, drool.
WZC > Strike Freedom > God > Rebuild > Destiny > Zeta > Nu
>>23507909>>23507915The correct numbers thushttps://www.famitsu.com/article/202509/51452[PS5] Metal Gear Solid Delta: Snake Eater (Konami, 08/28/25) – 63,585 (New)[NSW] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 60,532 (New)[NSW] Story of Seasons: Grand Bazaar (Marvelous, 08/27/25) – 46,586 (New)[SW2] Mario Kart World (Nintendo, 06/05/25) – 35,185 (1,655,926)[PS5] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 30,969 (New)Physical japanese copies only, SRW Y totals 91,501 retail copies sold until August 31, surprisingly more than MGS3 since it's not on Switch.The picture on Steam sales is an approximated guess, so we don't know precise numbers on that, and nothing on PS5 and Switch international sales.
>>23507909>>23507916>>23507920>>23507921Sorry, forgot the post the link to the source.https://www.gematsu.com/2025/09/famitsu-sales-8-25-25-8-31-25
>>23507937>ignores the FACT that SRW Y didn't come out on the PS4
>>23507938Also that the numbers aren’t even the same.
>>23507784>30 in particular DESPERATELY needed an Alpha 3-style squad system. MJP, Victory, GunxSword, all the many, many UC units, etc.Y is much worse in this regard. G-Gundam, Wing, Majestic Prince and Delta.
>>23507909>>23507935>[NSW] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 60,532 (New)>[PS5] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 30,969 (New)>[Steam] Super Robot Wars Y (Bandai Namco, 08/28/25) – 86.5k (51k - 121.9k)So the Steam version beat both the physical versions of NSW and PS5?
>>23507943we have no Steam data
>>23507942A lot of the series in Y hover between 3 to 6 units so...
>I'll just do one quick mission before bed>Code Geass finale
>>23507942I do just wish they kept doing pairsI like setting up teams and I end up using a bunch of shit I probably wouldn't have otherwise
>/m/: first SRW with yuri>Suletta: I hope Elan likes what I am wearing for the date>Suletta: I want to know more about Elan>Suletta: I wonder what Elan is thinking about right now>Suletta: I hope he's thinking about me
Tourist.
>Man, Arc sure has fallen off>Get the Soldier Medallion and Takuma's ace>Now it went from meh to OP
>>23507960Did L not have any yuri with Iczer-1?
>>23507943JAPANESE physical versions of NSW and PS5, yes, as was the case last week. Again, we don't know the numbers on international console sales. If we get optimist and say that Y sold ~214K copies, digital and physical, there is still room to grow due to time and digital PS5 and Switch international sales, so it's not out of reach to say that Y has sold 300K or more by now.Incidentally, something interesting happen on player retention: while there was a slow falling of players during the week, which is expected for a single player game, it got up again for a bit less than 12K players peak on the weekend. Seems that people that bought Y on launch on Steam are sticking to it and playing the game on a constant basis. Guess Y does not give as much as a 'burn out' as 30 did, nor did Hollow Knight Silksong and releases affected it that much, if at all.
>>23507964Kaiju Piece + SP Regen part is already enough for Arc to just go forever I actually spread the kills out across all three forms so hard that they had almost 200 total before I got any of them aced
>Echika suddenly goes full DBZ Goku and Spirit Bombed an evil big monsterThis is fucking stupid and I'm okay with it
If Aerial Rebuild is this good I can't imagine how busted Eri rebuild and Calibarn is gonna be in the next game that has WFM
>>23507964I didnt read the skill properly and went through almost the entire game without the chosen child of getter buff
>>23507932I think god is a lot more useful early because reaching hyper mode is trivial and domon has a cheap bullseye
>>23507979All Suletta really wants is to trade either Vigor or Trust for something else.>>23507969Those can work if you're running Mikumo or have MLB 2 on everyone.
>>23507932pretty fair list
>>23507984Domon has a hard time reaching Hyper Mode before Mari/Freyja/Rank C roll in due to how tight morale gains are in Expert's early game. His accuracy is also somewhat sketchy for a while since no Focus/Bullseye.He doesn't really come into his own until mid Chapter 2 and even then its just okay before Meikyo Shisui which is what really pushes him over the edge. +20 Melee/Skill and 1.1x on ace is very strong.
>>23507992He's a pretty easy candidate for the Morale+(Atk) you get earlyBut besides being tanky Hyper Mode isn't all that strong until Meikyo Shishui is unlocked anyways
>>23507999You could give him the first one given how badly he needs it. Alternatively, you can hand it over to Cross/Forte and combine that with the Ropet Scanner so they can quickly rocket up to high enough levels where NINJA's bonuses really kick in.
I like how Sai Saici realizes he's going full retard and swaps sides before he even gets a turn as an enemy
>>23508003He was just trying to stop Wufei from going full retard
>>23508003Dude folded as soon as he saw Domon. lol
Assuming that you're fielding every MC and we aren't accounting for secretsCross/Forte (1)Akira (2)Hyoma (3)Show/Shion (4)Daba (5)Kamille/Amuro (7)Domon (8)Heero (9)Shinn (10)Suletta (11)Koji (12)Takuma (13)Izuru (14)Hayate (15)Lelouch (16)JJ (17)Gauma/Gridknight (19)>MC LevelKira/Athrun/Kallen/Suzaku (23)I don't know how much you get to use on the Accept Ending, but I understand that the Reject Ending lets you field 30 units. So that would probably be where Rain/Mirage/Allenby/Chuchu/whatever secrets you happened to unlock fit in.Laying it out like this really does help to rein in spending
>>23508014I forgot Tetsuya on the MC Level group. Which is exactly 24 people.
>>23508014Bump Athrun out of there, he's barely better than a Wing boy who aren't all that good.
...C.C. were you not wearing pants this whole time?
>>23508017Yeah, consider fielding eternal of you wanna use kira.
I also think Shinn and the Aura Battlers are on the weaker end. I can't comment on any of the Supers but I'm sure they're all fine. Lelouch can also probably be abandoned, it's just far too cumbersome to use Tactical Command, though he is a high level Commander. Oh, and Hayate is pretty mediocre too.
So? When can i get Mazin Emperor G in my team? Tetsuya really need a boost.
>>23508027Lelouch is fine, its just that JJ and Purple are better
>>23508030He just doesn't really offer anything you can't get anywhere else other than Tactical Command so it's the thing to look at as far as I'm concerned. His damage is actually a lot better off than 30 if my memory serves, he's fine for clean up but that's about it.
Is the Lancelot Albion Zero just straight-up better than the Sin? It has a MAP and all Sin has going for it is ~200 more attack on its finisher, at the cost of far worse mobility.
>>23508029Chapter 5>>23508032Lelouch and C.C. have good supporty spirit lists together.Other than that I basically never used the tactical commands though. His ace bonus giving morale out would've been nice if he was around in the very early game.
>>23508037They slightly nerf sin because it'll have its armor later
>>23508038Yeah, C.C. is the other thing. I miss him having Resolve though, he could clean stuff up with ExC and get a better position for Tactical Command. My main issue with it is you can't even use it after moving which means Lelouch will fall behind if he uses it. Really annoying.
>>23508038>5Jesus fucking...
>>23508037sIN gets a chunky stat boost when you get the frame coats but that takes until chapter 4 to happen
I never noticed the bottom parts of CC's pilots outfit. Long sleeves and no pants is a weird combo I must say.
>>23508051>Long sleeves and no pants is a weird combo I must say.isn't that the standard outfit from that shitty Strike Witches anime?
>>23508018>>23508051Lmao we thought the exact same thing
>>23508058>isn't that the standard outfit from that shitty Strike Witches anime?Picked up
>>23508051Believe it or not, that's Clovis Vi Britannia legacy. Yes, Lelouch very first kill was the designer of these lewd suits, exclusively for female KMF pilots.
>>23508014>>23508015If we factor in the DLC, then that gives us:Kid (25)Shotaro (26)Roger (27)Noir Ryoma (28)Jeeg (29)Da-Garn (30)Meaning that you can field only MCs if you want (and stretch the definition to include "MC Level" folks).
>>23508014Doesnt Dynazenon combin with Gridknight though?
>>23508003Well to be fair would you want to be known as the other chinese retard?
>>23508080You need both deployed to do that
When do I get the frame coats for Kallen and Suzaku? The Geass plot is already over
>>23508090Random side mission to go kick Shalio's ass again
>>23508090Chapter 4,
But is there really no way to remove this absurd dark filter to prevent epilepsy seizures ? It's fine that it's enabled by default, but they need to give me a way to disable it.
>>23508113afaik noit sucks because they censored thunderbolt breaker too. let's be real, no 10 years old kids are playing this game.
>tfw Argento Soma is never making it inhttps://youtu.be/qcwTK_8FkD0?si=-5mDqTTSpiBGn_D3
>>23508119Its being overly cautious in stupid placesLike the flash whenever the MC does their ninja shit is worse than anything going on in Red 5's attacks and those are all dimmed to shit
>>23507176Kinda a different thing there though. A better comparison will have to be how the upcoming Braiger, Fuuto Pi and Big O cast interacts with the cast since they are the ones who are the direct equivalent to 30's Sakura Wars characters.
Is this a secret unit or I will always get it eventually?
If you don't get Bellvine in Ch5 Ciela just dumps it on Shion like the third main mission of Ch6
>>23507674>>23507691I think it's been mentioned a few times in older threads that japanese fans apparently hate the squad and pair systems.
>>23508113It's literally ilegal in Japan to not have those
>>23508151It’s a secret. Kill kaiju that aren’t just part of mobs with Dynazenon or Kaiser Gridknight when they show up and make sure you do side missions.
>>23508151Secret
>>23508157I always have the feeling that Bandai uses the excuse of "our fans hate this or that" to remove what is hard to do and there is no real market analysis behind it. SRW OG's twin system is the best system in the entire saga.
>>23508170The problem with the twin system is that it needs a LOT of units to truly work, and in the HD era that would mean either even more reused sprites or worse looking ones
>>23508172I really don't think that's a problem at all, there is more than enough units in Y or 30 for that.
>>23508172Y definitely has more units than OG already.
>>23507757Tamaki was only good with the Extra Arms you could buy for 20k MXP, so no, not really.
>>23508172A less powerful system was used in handheld console games like K-L. I think the units we have in Y, even without DLC, are already enough to allow for the use of some kind of similar system. Obviously, these systems need to be programmed and tested, which they don't have to do with the 1v1 system.
>Guel: Marry meWoah, what a creepy guy. Please don't start stalking us.
>>23508187Reminder that no one looks at Miorine negatively even though she is forcing Suletta into a situation where she is given no choice.In hindsight, G-Witch is truly shitty writing. I think it's one of Okouchi's worst works overall, saved only by the fact that the Yurifags are desperate for everything.Suletta should have challenged Guel fully aware of what she was getting herself into. There are so many morally wrong things about that show.
>>23508151It's a secret but almost impossible to miss unless you're a contrarian who refused to use dynazenon
Oh great, Drool woke up
>>23508189Suletta was the first one who said she'll do her responsibility after she ruined Miorine's escaped,so It wasn't Miorine, Guelfag.
What's up with Mina and Chise saying the person that saved them looked like a woman when it's clearly Master Asia? Is it because of the ponytail?
>>23508151yes but having it at 4 stages near the end of the game is really a waste
>>23508203You will have it for 32 DLC stages unless you do them in NG+
>>23508201Just ignore him, he literally didn't pay attention to the story.
>>23508189Please, next time watch wfm again.
>finish chapter 3Echika's arm pits
>>23508203Having a second Dynazenon around still probably puts it in the top 5 units in the whole game
>>23508202Yes.
>>23508204I dont think the DLC stages are going to be at the tail end of the base game.
>>23508210>Level 67He, i'm still 36, so these bastards are still able to tank my hits.
>>23508212You can probably start it whenever even if you've beaten the final boss already. They're not going to force people to restart the whole game, it's very long.
>>23508213Throw it at a few relic stagesBut even without being a bit overleveled it really is just an insane unit
>>23508210Sizumu really really sucks though. He has support attack/defend at level 2 but no potential, morale limit break or anything like that. His spirit set is more for support too, but bond and zeal are pretty good.
When is sales? The game is too expensive on steam.
Olibee joins with a copy of MkII's upgrades it seemsAnd she has Unity this time
>>23508220the game just came out and overall it's not like Ubisoft that loses value after 3 days.
>>23508222Unfortunately no amount of upgrades is saving her weapons loadoutGablae's Ashura Temple seems a lot better than it was in 30, his Buster Launcher gets 6700 power at 10 bars and that's without Gunfight or anything.Tod blows but his Vieres is probably an upgrade for Marvel.
>>23508187>dat drama CDGuel is always creepy.
How are Master Asia's stats?
>>23508227It makes me laugh that the suit literally has the same silly hairstyle as Olibee.
>>23508231He's as good as most protags are, I'd say. Not as good as Domon, but Domon is in the running for best unit in the game.
Is it not possible to upgrade aerial before the duel with darilbalde?
>>23508212I meant that if you have already finished the base game when the DLC comes out (which most of us playing it now will probably do) then you would be doing the DLC as post game with everything unlocked
https://youtu.be/q_v9cztMW6M?si=aVjW1Xy2tDVlNQS5This should've been Aerial Rebuild's theme instead of Yoasobi's dumb song
>>23508238Just use it for the final attack.
>>23508237When the first DLC releases I'll probably do a second run with the protagonist I didn't choose the first time.
>>23508240You're quick, I'm just starting chapter 4. DLC 1 will probably arrive in time for my final battle and I'll wait for DLC 2 to do a second go-round.
>>23508203For how fucking long the game is it's a shame almost all the secrets are in Chapter 6 or 7I know SRW does this shit all the time but I'm probably over 70 missions in without counting relic stages now.
I think I'm at the end of chapter 3.it was shorter than 2 but still pretty long, does each chapter keep getting shorter?
>>23508235NopeSave your Intuition casts for when Aerial's cameras get disabled, may still take a little savescumming to clear before the time limit on Expert
>>23508249It's just my opinion, but I think the game is still excessively long and gives you too much stuff in a single run, when they should have divided all these stages between Cross and Forte, perhaps keeping the good old separate paths section.I really miss the parts where the group split up and went on separate missions.
>>23508253Way less side missions per chapter once all the recruiting is out of the way.
>>23508249I believe the most egregious one is Master Therion in UX. He is only available for the last stage right?
>>23508253It does, from chapter 4 onwards it's mostly main missions
>>23508255I'm fine with the game length since expert has been fun and the writing is way better but its just a shame that so many secrets across the whole series only pay off at the tail end of the game
>>23508260The worst is Charles and Ray in Z1 imoYou have to take route splits that have fucking nothing else on them, exclusive to Rand's story, for those two to show up as reinforcements for half of the last stage.
>>23508227I think you can put her in the L-Gaim, which is a little better, or the Ashura Temple if you’re not using Gablae for some reason.
>>23508238Ehh, I just replaced it with slash.
>>23508267You can, I've been using Leccee still though. Too bad you can't get a Bat Shu or that thing Gablae was pilotijgnin the middle of the show thats not in the game
Pretty cool location. I don't know how this game will be remembered, but for now it still seems to me to have been made by a competent team tasked with an impossible mission with zero budget and very few resources.
>>23508292I'm treating it like a modern A Portable.
>>23508154Why did they give it to him this time? Sho way more popular while the OVA is pretty shit
>>23508301But where does Bellvine come from?
>>23508306It showed up in a magazine. Even then it doesn't matter since T gave it to Sho
>>23508272Yeah I love the Batshu, it’s a real shocker we don’t get one given how prominent it is in the series.
>>23508301Because Show already goes from Dunbine to Billbine. This is so Shion can have an upgrade else he's the only MC character that basically gets no new units or attacks.
>>23508312At least it's a really good capturable grunt in GC.
>>23508317Yeah, but Vellbine’s special finisher cutin is still tied to Sho, isn’t it?
>damage Garuda slightly>he does the laugh that I haven't heard in decades since the early PS titlesWell that's some nostalgia
>>23508301Because the design was made for the Aura Fhantasm artbook, and those designs went on to be used in the OVA. So, it makes sense the Billbine counterpart Bellvine would be used as an upgrade for the Dunbine counterpart Sirbine.Show's popularity is probably why Show even got it in T in the first place even though they had to advertise it alongside Shion due to its origins.
>>23508326The cut in itself is, but now Shion can use the attack unlike in T.
>>23508317>>23508335Doesn't matter. Should got get first therefore it's his upgrade and should be given to him
Can't you just swap people out of their aura battlers?
For being in a main entry, Neo Byston Well sure got the short end of the stick. I'm on Chapter 7, 80 hours in, and Rabaan appeared 3 times in the whole game.
>>23508337Like I said, due to its origins, the marketing had to place Bellvine alongside Shion in T, so a lot of people who were following the game were actually surprised when it was another upgrade given to Show, with an attack locked to him even, when he already had an unique attack locked in the Billbine.>>23508339Yes. They even kept Show's unique cut-in from T even though he isn't the main pilot anymore.
>>23508343I'm planning to try a "main stages only" run afterwards just to see how different some of the joining and upgrade times are. Although I guess in this situation Dynazenon and later Mazinkaiser Kouji will just dominate most of the game gameplay-wise.
>>23508253Chapter 2 is the longest. Chapter 6 can be pretty long too.
Oh Kira I missed you so much.What would we all do without your holy dragoons
>>23508350I'm guessing chapter 6 has the most main missions?
I like how the original plot is structured this time. You're not kept in the dark for 2/3 of the game, now there's a revelation on every chapter.This is a small spoiler of the end of chapter 6, but the reason they don't go after Re Seivas after he leaves NOAHS is because it's taboo for Ra Valians to kill each other.
>>23508352IIRC, it has either 7 or 8 main missions.
>>23508202Indeed it is. She even says the same thing later on.
>>23508352Chapter 7 is like K where one mission is actually two and they're all long as fuck.
>>23508204One of the main reasons I don't believe there will be any more DLC outside of an actual expansion pack is that if they follow the same format then altogether in addition to the base game if a 3rd one releases that's 48 stages total of DLC stages that can probably be done during base game. Whilst an expansion you have more stages but they'll be done after you've beaten the final boss.
Sure, Chum
>>23507950It's weird because some main missions go on forever (WfM finale, Getter finale), while others end out of the blue (penultimate Chapter 6 stage).
>>23508368Delta finale really takes the cake, there's like 5 reinforcement waves
>>23508368>>23508371But on the plus side, more exp, mxp and money.
>>23508366I prefer Silky
>>23508366Why she look so creepy in srw, lol>>23506938>Getter Raysunknown alien god gives you technologies hmmm, what can be wrong
>>23508375It's the endgame and I just want to see the end of the story so I killed the bosses directly
It's my first time experiencing arc's story and guren lagann's second half is literally a getter fanfic huh? Like, it's blatantly the same thing.
>>23508385Brother, what do you think Spiral Energy is? The whole show is basically a getter fanfic, its why it rocks.
>>23508385Everything from Gainax was super derivative. To be fair, they wore it on their sleeves. But it's all just Getter, Ultraman or Mazinger.
>>23508386My experience with getter is completely just the srw adaptation, and all I know is that they fight dinosaur people or some bug looking aliens. Yeah armageddon touches on the getter rays bit but it doesn't really emphasize how dangerous the the thing is
>>23508393They also fight Prussian space oni, who aren't really from space.
About MUHH engine. I created srw like engine in a week. Vn + TRPG. Spend next week adding animation (used animation sprites from srw). That's it. Nothing too hard.
>>23508379Getter is nether good nor evil. It's goal is to help humanity evolve to a higher plan and reach true enlightenment. The issue is that Humanity in the course of Getter doing that ends up abusing it's power and because Getter doesn't care about morality just sides with the humans. >>23506983>Getter 1 pilots are usually more complex because it is clear Getter develops a liking to then, they are strong willed and try to defy their fate most of the time.It seems that's what Getter wants. I'm guessing Humanity trying defy destiny and even giving them the power to do so is all part of it'd ultimate goal. As long as it reaches it's end Goal the path to it doesn't matter
>Second Macross Delta story mission>Has to protect the stage from the named cunts>You start from the side between the enemy force and the stage so you have to haul ass across the map fast to catch the enemies on the other side>Raideen mooks show up on the opposite side of where you spawn and now those purple squids have support defense to make killing those named fucks even more annoyingFucking hell.Is it gonna be a trend that Macross story stages are a pain in the ass?
What would happen if we got a gundam juiced on getter ray
>>23508385Wasn't this something the Gurren Lagann creator admitted? I remember reading that Getter was the main inspiration for TTGL at least.
>>23508404You'll end up with a Gundam that's a fusion of Unicorn and Turn A
>>23508253Chapter 4 is the shortest and Chapter 2 the longest. Chapter 5 is about as long as Chapter 3, Chapter 6 is longer than that but still not as long as Chapter 2.
>>23508404Think Unicorn but with a functional Crossbone mouth roaring.
>>23508203It’s a shame cause it’s a second dynazenon running around and the kaiju club is fun to listen to. Like how sometimes they’ll just ignore onjia when he’s trying to get them to shout with him during full burst
When will I first fight with Godzilla Ultima?I'm tired of waiting
>>23508416The writer used to be ken ishikawa's editor in the 2000s apparently, he was a big fan
>>23508432my favorite is the missile kick>sizumu: someone shout please>mujina: not me>onija: hell yeah, missile shoot!
>>23508203>Kaiju club joining at the very end of the gaeThis game is definitely getting an expansion, I think some units did had this issue as well in 30 IIRC.
>>23508113Meanwhile every time you cast Disrupt an extremely obnoxious bright glitch flash that's completely unskippable plays
Jiart also survives in Y
LMAOWufei bros, how are we going to recover after this game?
>>23508448Technically he does survive in the original anime too, but it's only "confirmed" in one scene in the movie where you see a "flash" with his distinct white color in the wulgaru homeworld (and I think the wulgaru king makes a comment like "I guess he does have my genes after all")It's just that nothing can come out from this because with the gate destroyed the Wulgaru will never be able to come back to earth (and the MJP franchise being 100% dead doesn't help)
>>23506930school shooter
>>23507149>>23506955also harlock's VA died right around the release year of T
>>23508468That's cursed.
>>23507176Nah even the pre-release DLC in 30 were also nonexistent save for Masaki. The "main" DLCs however will definitely have dialogue.Makes me wonder what the Fuuto detectives think about A Advent.
>>23507943>Steamanon Steam data doesn't work that way
>>23508471Yeah he was actually retired iirc, he only did this gig for SRW T
>>23508480The SRX team didn't talk much, but at least they occasionally popped up, like when Uso's mom is taken hostange, or when the K&M villain shittalks robots
>>23508480I will never not be mad that Ryusei literally has another mech fanatic to geek out with in Ernie from Knights and Magic and they basically had I think only one interaction.
Yes Echika.Reject men.Embrace yuri.
>>23508499Ryusei's is rough. Since he knew the wheeled battleships were a thing in Alpha. Why not just say "So, in our world they did this..." and then spoil things so the Dreißtrager crew could have been better prepared? Ryusei really is a dick.
>>23508449It's not a problem, nobody's a Wufei bro.
So the "alternate ending" is them possibly killing off Bob's coworkers in a random Wulgaru attack at the school and we don't do anything at Plant Quetta.
>>23508433Godzilla showing up means things are turbofucked, so it's one of the very last things you fight.
>>23508547Why? He's not that strong in SRW PowercaleMight be below Dark Gundam tier
>>23508536Prospera is quite mad we took suletta out of the school, I assume it put her plans out of schedule and it just doesn't work.
>>23508551this iteration of godzilla is on par with getter emperor
>>23508238If there was a version that started with chanting I'd use it, once I got Darilbalde and Rebuild I transferred everyone to slash.lAlso thinking back on that mission, it was basically the final few episodes except for Plant Quettta and Sophie+Norea, even Bob's transport crew got taken out
>>23508536Poor Bob, he's just not an independent guy, doesn't know what to do with his life.
>>23508553She entrusted it to us, deliberately. In reality, Prospera's plan is to raise Aerial's Permet score so she can then use Eri for her Quiet Zero. Whether Suletta is at the school or not it's irrelevant, Prospera only cares about Suletta fighting someone.
What will Guel do without Domon in the next game? Will he find another father?
>>23507511>>23507567>but the romance was really goodNo it wasn't
>>23508557So we can beat Getter Emperor in 3 turns too
>>23507511>Unironically, there is more love and trust in this scene than any Gundam couple has ever gottenJust say you don't watch Gundam and even I know that the franchise track record with romance isn't good but Suletta and Miorne are nowhere near close to being as good as Garrod and Tifa
>Amuro, Kamille, Daba, Show have little to no specific battle lines for their foesLike Tominoslop wasn't enough tiring already. I really miss the handheld titles that were free from that crap
>>23508572We had Wing and G this time, so they will probably bring back 00 Trailblazer instead.Graham would make a great mentor for him.
>>23508583They went all out with the UC guys in 30 yeah kinda weird there's barely any new shit in this game.
>>23507636Why is that whenever a new SRW comes out people have to shit on the previous ones as if to say people weren't glazing it on release like the rest? The only SRW that was deemed bad on release is still Z3 followed by K and X
>>23508572Does he want to rent a Daddy or something?
>>23507626Many important events begin in chapter 4
>>23508594Indeed, people pretending we didn't do the same thing with T and 30.
>>2350859430 was not glazed on release. A lot of people were complaining about it feeling long and aimless.
>>23508601>30 was not glazed on release.We did got people not liking the new system and all, but we did had a lot of excitement around the game. I agree Y is better but the hype cycle hasn't been the same.
>>23507626The cast is just not very good (looks like WfM isn't a game seller like Yamato 2199 was for V) and the four year wait does not justify that Y is just a "better 30" and not much else either go back to yearly releases or cut physical releases entirely.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyyVYTb2kNEThis guy and SamuMenco are going to be DLC.
>>23508606Most of 30's "hype" was the fact that it was the first global release. Y doesnt have that, so it feels like a more normal release period.
>>23507966It still did worse than 30 retard
>>23508572Next game?
>>23508594V definitely wasn't glazed on release in this thread. I vividly remember getting an early copy and nobody wants to talk about it.
>>23508393You should really read the manga, it's good stuff.
>>23508601>glazedBack in my day the only things we glazed were ham and donuts
>>23508625Knowing it ended abruptly and the author isn't around to finish it doesn't excite me. But I'll look into it eventually.
>>23508595No, you see. He killed his Dad so he needs a father figure until he die.
>>23508601>30 was not glazed on releaseYes it was. Not only was a better recieved than VXT it had the biggest prehype release cycle of any SRW in years. You can literally go on many websites and it'll show it has a higher rating than Y (Nips response to Y has been way more tepid than expected due to the UI changes and the way the new entries feel halfassed). Most people didn't start shitting on 30 until like two years ago (people here were even defending the mission structure saying it's at least better than the stale single route splits of the previous games).
>>23508385Yeah. Gainax started as otakus who started a convention where they made an animation of a bunny girl beating up everything they loved and selling figures and mercy. And they never stopped lol.https://youtu.be/-840keiiFDE
>>23508629Well the Getter Robo Go manga is the one that gets talked about the most, and that's long since finished. It talks a lot about why the Getter is such a big problem.
>>23508638There's an argument to be made that the Daicon IV animation is one of the most important animated shorts of all time because of the ripple effect it had on the industry.
>>23508636>most people didnt start shitting on 30 until 2 years agoRevisionism is a hell of a drug.
>>23508624People couldn't get over that it was the first translated mainline SRW title to really care about anything else
>>23508594That's how everything is. I remember memes about the 'zelda cycle'and 'sonic cycle' going on 20 years ago.
>>23508439He's the guy who convinced Ishikawa to compile the Saga edition in the first place even
>>23508583>Like Tominoslop wasn't enough tiring alreadyIt wouldn't be if they listened to me and added Brain Powerd.
>>23508643>Revisionism>Literally proved that it wasn't
>>23508581Some people just like to see them together because Suletta has that wifeguy energy like Garrod.
>>23508636>Meanwhile 30's Hakaioh skipping a massive chunk of its units and fights
>>23508642I was reading about if awhile ago and apparently it even popularized garage kits.
>>23508629The intentional cliffhanger ending is honestly pretty good, it's surprisingly fitting.
>>23507511lmao.
>>23508651You can go back to the first year of 30's release and find people shitting on it for pacing and lack of difficulty. Not to mention players harping heavily on Hakaioh missing a lot of content which led to fans running damage control by saying that some of the newer members of the cast didnt have designs yet.
>>23508656>HakaiohCOMPARED TO WFM MISSING 1/3 IF ITS ALREADY MINIMAL CONTENT?! COMPARED TO GODZILLA SP NOT HAVING ANYTHING? The fact that we even got Hakaioh AT ALL should be applauded.
>>23508404
>>23508661>Dude trust me
>>23508656And Knights and Magic having, whatever the hell it got.
>>23508664G Witch S1 covers everything except for the Plant Quetta battle. SRW even managed to fit in the part where Bob got to work as a transporter and his team got ambushed and killed.So get the fuck out of here by saying that G Witch missed "1/3rd of its content".
>>23508661>>23508656The fact that people have to use Hakaioh, a mostly unpopular LN series that's made for the few people who even still cares about Project Z, really shows how performative 30 hate us especially given all the missing content Y has.
>>23508669Didnt KnM skip actually important characters on the ally side while speedrunning the ending?
>>23508657Yeah, it really did a lot to change the landscape of otaku culture as a whole. They also make sure to reference it whenever they get the chance. I know the first time I saw FLCL I was confused why suddenly Haruko was in a bunny girl outfit during one of the big battles and surfing on her guitar, but chalked it up to her just being a weirdo. Found out later it was a reference to that short and it made a lot more sense.
>>23508671>G Witch S1 covers everything>no prologue >plot only covers 7 episodes despite being advertised as S1 and even then it's a very abridged version of it>Missing several units and characters from S1>Ending is also different What the fuck was the point in having it here?
>>23508672>really shows how performative 30 hate us especially given all the missing content Y has.Case in point>>23508669>KM skipping most of its plot>>23508671>but its ok when WfM does the same
>>23508675Started it's debut mid story, missing the main ally who canonically killed the crazy lady, its own story is sidelined as its basically playing second fiddle to Rayearth's story.
>>23508672>All of the missing contentYou're full of it if you're trying to say that Y did a terrible job with the debuts. Only Godzilla felt like it was missing a decent chunk of content compared to the glaring omissions that two of 30's debuts had.
>>23508678To bump sales but Y is doing worse than 30 so it failed to do that
>>23508661I was definitely here when many people complained the hell out of the old cast like the Ryu robots and Mic not being playable and spent the whole game deactivated.
>>23508678You can't add the prologue when it has nothing to do with the characters. They can just watch it on anime.
>>23507511The last three replies to this all dogpile on it and very close to each other. The guy makes it so obvious.
>>23508681>You're full of it if you're trying to say that Y did a terrible job with the debutsIt did such a bad job that even Nips are complaining about it>glaring omissionsOh no not that super obscure character with one attack from an unpopular LN that was never animated that...surely compares to omitting the groundwork to your entire fucking story a d reason for your existence
>>23508685>You can't add the prologue when it has nothing to do with the characters
>>23508688Not everyone is in this thread 24/7. They dogpiled on him because a WfM tranny saud something insanely stupid
>>23508693>They dogpiledHe dogpiled.
>>23508678>PrologueWould never get anything more than a dialogue blurb because it takes place 21 years prior to the events of S1.>7 episodesEpisodes 1 to 9 happen as is in Y. They draw content from 10 to 12 since the finale draws reference to them working on a proposal for the prosthetics when they consulted Hyoma and Lelouch. Guel working as a transporter happens in the last two episodes and Suletta fielding in the Rebuild to fend off Jeril/Lili is a direct replacement for her fighting Sophie/Norea.>Important characters and units3 characters, El5n (who is minor until S2), Sophie and Norea.2 units, Ur and Thorn.
>>23508694No let me recorrect that. You dogpiled.
>>23508693Eh, Garrod says otherwise.
>>23508694>>23508697Don't samefag
so this is what atlus learned after publishing SRW OG to overseashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T57LeQCOiWg
>>23508689>No Choryujin, Gekiryujin and Volfogg when they could have literally reused them from T and painted them in orange for boss fights
>>23508689>It did such a bad job that even Nips are complaining about itOh boy, It's so convenient to quote the alleged nips for everthing. Bring out your source and prove it.
>>23508689Post proof or shut up Duel
>>23508693hi Drool
>>23508696>Would never get anything more than a dialogue blurb because it takes place 21 years prior to the events of S1.So it was skipped. Got it>>23508696>Episodes 1 to 9 happen as is in Y.Nope just up to episode 7 the rest is just sporadic events missing characters or speed running them once again skipping most of of the plot>3 characters, El5n (who is minor until S2), Sophie and Norea.>2 units, Ur and Thorn.Wrong again
>>23508703>>23508705>>23508708>worse sales than 30>worse ratings than 30>b-b-but Nips like itHere comes the cope
>>23508709The Shaddiq map is quite literally Episodes 7 to 9. Dont reply to me with blatantly incorrect information.
>>23508719>The Shaddiq map is quite literally Episodes 7 to 9.Wrong
Aren't we also missing the fatguy?
>>23508723He wasn't relevant that much in s1
https://www.bilibili.tv/en/video/2047339581>hurr durr they only went up to episode 7
>>23508730Thanks for proving my point
>>23508713And so? Many people just look at the graphics and, if they don't see all the brand new stuff, they're not interested. This is something Bandai should know, new sages are always received with more interest.BUT before deciding whether this game is a failure or not, you should take into account the production costs, because profitability is measured by how much the game cost to produce.SRW Y is undoubtedly a game that takes a lot of archive material and tries to clean it up. Quite blatantly, 60-70% of the units in the game are zero-budget. SO, It wouldn't even be that strange if SRW Y brought in more revenue than SRW 30, given the fact that it probably cost much less to make.But we don't have that data and Steam is not indicative. However, the saga has still been around for over twenty years. Do you really think we'd still have SRWs if Bandai didn't make a profit from them? If they even made a new engine, it means they have the intention to make at least some more SRW games
>>23508732Are you blind, deaf or just plain stubborn?
>>23507707If he ever set foot onto the a advent I think they’d have to execute him cause his debt would infect the ship line a virus
Episode 7 is the fucking incubation partyEpisode 8 is the setup to the Shaddiq duel and 9 is the duel itself.Stop replying to idiots that have never watched the anime.
The issue with WfM is the stuff they adapted they adapted quite well but it also happens to be content that isn't suited for SRW gameplay wise. The stuff that would fit with SRW gets cut
>>23508748>they adapted they adapted quiteLmao
Whoever you don't pick as the T protagonist gets screwed over so bad, should of had the gespenst instead
>>23508740considering it's drool, "stubborn"
>>23508636Of course it had a pre-hype cycle, it was the first SRW with an actual global release, doesnt mean the game was not hot garbo
30 just felt longer then it should have been so I didn’t like it as much
>>23508740>>23508746So WfM trannies don't even watch their own show
>>23508689If you look a jp reviews for 30 (and for basically every game ever on Steam) you'll notice most are negative too. This is the norm because for some reason japanese steam users almost only leave negative reviews (and this seems to be a common thing: jp users very rarely leave positive reviews, and almost never leave perfect reviews even in real life like rating restaurants for their service)https://automaton-media.com/en/news/steams-new-language-specific-review-scores-highlight-japanese-players-tendency-to-leave-only-negative-reviews-gamers-fear-this-might-affect-japanese-language-support-for-future-rele/You can't use jp steam reviews for anything. The player curve is a better indication of how much steam users are really enjoying Y and even that's only partial data (and most likely in shows that chinese users are playing it more than other regions)
>>23508713We dont actually know how well it sold yet, you but youre a pagpag who cant do math, so I cant expect anything from you
>>23508760Are you okay?
>>23508760Kys troon, youre not part of the team, go back to powerscalling Kamen Rider or whatever
You can literally skip all of WfM stages and not miss a thing
>>23508762Its someone that's arguing the contrary when literal evidence is shown. Its a waste of time to discuss anything.
>>23508691>WT thread meme in the SRW thread.This should be surprising to me. But it isnt.
>>23508764it's Drool, the answer is always a big No.
>>23508767wfm is actually fun.
>>23508777
>>23508664Ah so 30 half-assing shows is fine, its only a problem when Y does it, gotchaAlso dont be a retard, WFM will get a full adaptation eventually, its gundam and its popular AU, it'll be fineCant say the same thing like K&M or Hakaiou, also you had things like Resurrection getting like a single stage, Combattler getting actually nothing and I remember Gridman fans complaining that the game adapted the show pretty badly
>>23508404It becomes Ideon.
Nobody reply to droll past this point
The sale discussion for Y or how it did compared to 30 is pointless. Bamco is the only company that knows what the expectations were and even with 30 they never made an official statement about how it did (no post about I don't know 500k sales and so on)The only data we have from Steam and famitsu/media create is the same that was posted multiple times during launch, and was talked before launch too: Y did better than any other 2025 release they had outside Nightreign, and Digimon and Little Nightmares 3 are the only 2 titles that can change this fact (unless you think that anime Hades that releases in 2 weeks has any hope of not bombing)Honestly the fact SRW is one of their highlights is a much bigger reason to be worried about for Bamco since it means most of their other licensed releases aren't performing well (and 30 had this "problem" too)
I want season 2 game already...
>>23508784I’m surprised y somehow survived Bandai cancelling a fuck ton of games including Naruto and one piece shit. I’ve always assumed that SRW is one of the first ones to go if it was put on the chopping block
>>23508782Isnt the Unicorn kinda the getter gundam already?>Glows green>Cant time travel>Desintegrate stuff with its mind>Can evolve into a god
>>23508782https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ9QFILe53o&t=23s
>>23508577If the fucking thing didn't hide itself 2500 years into the future
>>23508794Ideon is cooler.
>>23508787It's an interesting point for sure. Maybe it's because Y was much farther ahead on the development side compared to those unnannounced Naruto and One Piece games, or maybe they got scared by the last Naruto and One Piece games bombing and they weren't sure those games would make their budget back. The fact they keep coming back to Pirate Warriors 4 is proof they don't really know what else they can release from that ip
>>23508755They could still make the gespenst garbage
The first DLC pack seems way more intriguing than the 2nd one just because of Fuuto PI. I would have preferred Kotetsushin Jeeg over original Jeeg, especially since it doesn't seem like Amuro got new lines this time round so I'm not expecting Hiroshi to either.
>>23508787The majority of Y's roster is Bamco-owned so that probably helps
>>23508804To be fair naruto's source material has been milked to death and they never changed up the storm formula at all.
>>23508804They should release a new dynasty warriors gundam, its the only thing that makes sense
>>23508811Ot at least make an HD remaster of the first 3 games.
>>23508811>dynasty warriors gundam I never understood that stuff.
>>23508551>Why? He's not that strong in SRW PowercaleIt is stronger than most things in SRW
>>23508813Warriors is an acquired taste. You hate or you love it, there is really no middle groundLike SRW
>>23508572>>23508588>>23508595Next game they'll just do S2 where he has Olcott giving him guidance, the better question is if Olcott is NPC only or not
>>23508688The weirdest thing about schizos like that is the part where they think they're successfully hiding themselves, and nobody can spot their blatant samefagging.
>>23508817But there aren't any battles like that in Gundam; it's a genre that makes more sense with Hokuto no Ken.I've played it, but the gameplay kills my immersion, and I can't relate with a RX-78 slaughter a horde of Zakus. It may make sense with G Gundam, but using the others, it feels like I'm playing a game that's using a "mod" to have Gundams in a context that doesn't belong to them.
>>23508721>>23508709>the shaddiq chapter LITERALLY has the same name as the anime episode>still thinks it only covers till episode 7retard...
>>23508583Amuro, Kamille and Daba at least have lines for reused stuff from 30 like Wulgaru and L-Gaim guys.Show and Shion do have new lines, I think? They explicitly talk about Kaiju at least and I don't see from where that would be coming from since they weren't in 30 so it can't be recycled from the Gridman Kaiju unlike for the MJP crew or Daba.>>23508591That's it though. They went all out with the VAs in 30, but VXT already had UC characters with no lines through 3 games, so this is more normal. And even in 30 did Char have new lines?Although an odd omission from the new lines in 30 is that Kamille didn't get unique lines against AI soldiers. It's one of the most frequent enemy types and he screams like he's facing a human opponent.
>>23508819>if Olcott is NPC only or notNpc only. We are no longer in the 2000s, today only the bare minimum is done. Sophia and Norea also enemies only, unsavable.
>>23508827>Although an odd omission from the new lines in 30 is that Kamille didn't get unique lines against AI soldiers. It's one of the most frequent enemy types and he screams like he's facing a human opponent.Considering how common AI enemies are across the franchise it's weirder he doesn't have them already.
>>23508827Ciela also has a line when attacking rodans about how "it's like a beast from the Storm Area" or something I forgot the actual name, which reminded me of how Byston Well has a "red dust" equivalent with "giant monsters in it"
>>23508823I mean most gundams have a scene where the cleave through like dozens of grunts, Amuro, Kira, Setsuna, Mika, etc.
>>23508018>>23508051Now I want to see from behind.
>>23508830In 30 there was generally more consistency in what you faced. Masaki had lines of dialogue for every enemy, which isn't the case here.I'd say that's a further sign of how incredibly rushed Y is, beyond the fact that the game turned out to be fun.
>>23508829I don't necessarily care if hes a perma playable, because it wouldn't be him in pic related.Sophie and Norea are the kind of not completely evil characters that depending on how its done they could be savable, possibly not in their first game however
>>23508833Every once in a while I'll remember that Byston Well has a bizarrely large amount of worldbuilding in it and had multiple other stories set in it that had fucking nothing to do with Aura Battlers.
Very curious why the Kaiju Club aren't redeemed in Dynazenon from what I've been told, because at least from what I see here they seem way too innately decent people to be the primary antagonists.
>>23508841Garzey's Wing...
>>23508806>The first DLC pack seems way more intriguing than the 2nd one just because of Fuuto PI.Getter Noir and Da Garn aren't enough for you?
>>23508837Masaki's case is weird, because Heero is in the game and has tons of Y specific lines, so you wonder why they didn't just ask Greenriver to throw some extra Masaki lines inBut then that interview that was posted here a few threads ago came out where they talk about how the voicelines are often recorded early and sometimes they end up recording lines that end up unused because of changes in the game, and that made m think that maybe Masaki (and the VXT OGs) were truly a last minute addition (or at least as close to how "last minute" a game that releases in 6 months can be since they were announced with the preorders)
Sometimes I'm amused remembering how Armageddon was PRE-plot for the entirety of SRW Z2.1. What are some of the other slowest plot progressions in SRW history?
>>23508851Doesn't Kamina dies pretty late in Z2.1 too?
>>23508850Makes sense they had zero dialog throughout the plot even though 30's preorder characters chimed in here and there
>>23508822>Everyone I don't like is a samefag schizo What is it only WfM troops who say this?
>>23508851The first minute or so of Orgun lasted the entire first half of W
>>23508854Stage 32 out of 50
>>23508843Because Yume's retarded drama with her dead sister was more important even when it was completely unrelated to the plot.
>>23508857when a known shitposter is targeting a specific show with the same (lame) talking points, it's easy to point at one person.Like all the shitting on FF14/16/7 Remake on /v/ are all done by a guy who whiteknights the shit out of FF15 and Forspokenor the same damn troll that ruins Metroid threads for some retarded reason. Like, seriously, how does liking the cinematic takedowns in SR and Dread mean they love Other M
>>23508843In the end, it seems to me that it depends a lot on the staff's tastes. A Lecce Fag in Bandai gives us the chance to change her look.Dynazenon's debut gives us the redemption of some characters who went out ingloriously in the original show.In 30, we have Katejina and Asher, and MY GOD, they are top tier level of retardation, not to mention Michel, who being killed is one of the good things about the show, and I find him fighting alongside Van. I bet he's only saved to have Fasalina in the team, the price to pay is for that idiot to stay alive.This means they can really do whatever they want, even if there's some level of supervision.Realistically, Sophia and Norea could be salvaged even in their debut game, but if they don't, it's clearly a choice made by the Bandai staff.
>>23508837In Masaki's case it's because just like the other preorder characters this time he didn't get new dialogue recorded. He still has lines against a bunch of opponents due to mixing his 30 and X lines, but if they weren't in either game then he won't have lines. Well, he also has lines against Kaiju due to reusing the ones for Gridman's kaiju with other types of Kaiju in this game.Really, out of the older series only Code Geass seemed to get fully new recordings, for the others it's character by character basis, generally just one or two protagonists.Tetsuya has new voices and reacts to tons of characters. Same goes to Shinn. Then there's Heero obviously. Shion and Daba seem to have new lines too. Maybe? Ciela too maybe? Not sure on these three.They had to change Suruga's voice, but in spite of that seemingly just had his new VA reading over the old script, so no new lines.
>>23508857Because you always make it obvious when you're samefagging; you're so mentally ill you can't help but slip your call words into every post.
>>23508865Shinn got new lines since Suzumura was already in the booth for Gridknight
>>23508857You couldnt even spell troon right kekkaroo
>>23508857Because you respond the same fucking way to the same fucking things every single goddamn time.
>>23508864>In 30, we have Katejina and AsherI like that even if we got the secret we could still tell the game "no we don't won't these utter wastes of space in our group"
>>23508865In Shinn's case it probably helped that Suzumura was also voicing Anti. Same thing that happened in V where I believe he and Lacus were the only SEED characters to get new lines of dialogue since their actors were available for characters from Yamato.
>>23508854Stage 32 out of 50, which I personally wouldn't consider pretty-late; that's more "stage 40 and up" for me.
>>23507064>xelguard>decentenables turn 1 unity on characters that dont have quite have enough SPtriggers early will on B charactershas all the late game damage buffs in a single dogma (after) upgradeI think its way above average
>>23508864>Sophie and NoreaIn theory you'd need to get points so Eri doesn't fry Sophie and she gets convinced by Suletta, then that could lead to recruiting Norea, just change her rage over Sophie's death to rage over being betrayed
>>23508885And you get the upgrade as early as chapter 3 if you spam front missions
>>23508863>when a known shitposter is targeting a specific show with the same (lame) talking pointsOr maybe the show isn't very good
>>23508837>I'd say that's a further sign of how incredibly rushed Y is, beyond the fact that the game turned out to be fun.If you actually read the interviews they've done for Y on the Japanese side, they basically said they do one big batch of VO recording every couple of years and get a bunch of stuff for the audio banks regardless if they intend to use it right away. What likely happened is that the VTX crew weren't intended to be in the game to begin with, hence why they have no new lines to begin with.
>>23508843You mean in the show? Because they don't believe in themselves and the world around them. They want to have omnipotent kaiju powers like akane did, not realizing it won't make their life any better and are too stubborn to see otherwise.But the real reason is trigger/tsuburaya probably just don't want to do the same ending as the first season.
>>23508894Except for of course Greenriver who was probably camping in front of the recording studio to record Heero's target Godzilla line
>>23508867>>23508872>>23508873Is the schizo here now WfM troon?
>>23508888The problem is that Sophia and Norea do a school shooting where someone gets killed, and that sealing their fate. Ironically, it would have been easier to recruit them in this game without the Season 2, where they go completely nuts. Just as I agree that V OG and Masaki were a last minute addition to give use a preorder bonus, I think Gwitch was also a last minute addition.
>>23508902WfM could've been a dlc and nothing would change, literally none of the key characters from beneritt group interact with anyone outside their colony. Permet and vanadis aren't even mentioned anywhere.
>>23508907If they ever do S2 they would have to have every mech use permet on some level to make the Quiet Zero plot work
>>23508863>or the same damn troll that ruins Metroid threads for some retarded reason.You can add DMC threads being called trash by a Ninja Gaiden shitposter
>>23508900Idk troon, are you?
>>23508899I mean to be fair, Wing had been gone since X, it was about time to give them new lines
>>23508902What got Sophie killed was her arguing with Suletta on what Gundams are used for and blaming her mom and miorine for lettinng her pilot a Gundam, Eri didn't like that very much so she fried her right then and there while Suletta begged her to stop, so it would be down to if they want to write a way to get around it
>>23508908They'll make it work with some other show.I expect Unicorn to return with Hataway in the next game, maybe with 00 and probably GquuX. And of course Freedom, because I'm not convinced we'll have it here as DLC yet.
>The OG mooks have a permanent Instinct 3 and 1.1x damage modifier
>>23508916The only thing that could help Sophie live is the fact that she wants Suletta to be her family, in her own twisted way of accomplishing that, but at least a better reason to save her than Katejina
>>23508919I think I cast Disturb more in my first playthrough of Y than I have in every other SRW with it combined.
>>23508916>miorine for lettinng her pilot a Gundam,why changing the story?
>>23508919The final stage straight up has 70 boss units thrown against you
>>23508916Dude, please, they staged a terrorist attack and killed some kids in broad daylight. I understand we're on 4chan, but that's the real narrative element that makes them irredeemable. Even though people would like NoreaxElan.
>>23508936Isn't that only on the IF Route though?
>>23508932For me it was way less since you get Disturb pretty late and I'm using it almost every turn in every game cause that shit's bustedAnd you usually get at least one pilot or subpilot who can function exclusively as a disturb spammer
>>23508933Not changing the story, but she was just trying to reach to figure out who's lying to Suletta about what her Gundam is clearly made for>>23508937Anon, Gato nukes a entire fleet and opts for a colony drop and he's recruit able, they've done worse, including 30.
>>23508937Right, a lot of kids died on that show huh
>>23508919Honestly, this pretty much means that everyone needs Instinct 3 just to work with neutral hit/evasion calculations which is kind of insane when you think about how costly that gets on Expert.
>>23508939You get disturb as soon as you get to macross delta though
>>23508937
>>23508945Good thing I'm not playing and never will play on Expert.
>>23508942Miorine doesn't even know about Gundams, just saying.
>>23508942it's different, they are soldiers. Here, kids get killed, naive, spoiled, but still innocent kids, and that's why it's NOT the same thing. That said, I agree that recruitable Gato is as bullshit as Katejina. Fuck that unbearable idiot and his fans.
>>23508937Every time they've made Katejina join its because she just fucks off from the final Victory battle instead of furiously masturbating while Chronicle and Uso try to kill eachother and even that's still sketchyAnd that's without going into the possibility for bigger rewrites but there's been a lot of flimsy reasons for villains to be playable
>>23508950Yeah but Sophie doesn't know that>>23508952I don't think Gato or even Katejina is much different, mind you they both either try or actually do end up killing non soldiers en mass
>>23508954Eh, Sophie is actually likable, she's a good girl.
>>23508937>Even though people would like NoreaxElan.Nobody likes either of these characters let alone them together
>>23508954Are there any likeable psychopath pilots that are worth saving?
>>23508958Katejina is saved in several games only because Usso goes "full Luke Skywalker" and forcefully drags Katejina into the recruitable pool. Gato is there because there's a slew of UC military nerds who extol him as the great Zeon knight. (urgh)Have we ever had Cima recruitable?
>>23508864After V gave us friggin Yazan as a recruitable, I'm convinced they can theoretically make anyone a secret.
>>23508952Aren't you also able to save Loni from death in Z3, granted she's not playable but she literally blows up a town full of actual normal people because MUH ZEON and a mother and her child literally dies on screen if I remember right
>>23508965Cima's never been recruitable despite actually being the more reasonable choice, probably because she spits on Zeon
Remember when X-Omega gave Nena Trinity a redemption arc?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG5mWT6_u2gn
>>23508962Well, It's actually quite popular, but there are ships of all kinds and I understand that any straight pair is seen as poison.
>>23508954I don't know, if they're gonna give me fucks like Glemy I can't sit here and say anyone is off the table
>>23508965I figured it also helped that in D and 30, Katejina doesn't kill anyone of the Shrikes like she did in the show.
Who is the most unredeemable playable villain in SRW? Not counting only playable as a guest
>>23508965I have to play GGen to live out my playable Cima fantasies.
>>23508976Same thing in 30 and alpha Gaiden.
>>23508966Don't even have to be Gundam. As already mentioned in this thread, in UX, Master Therion can join, even if just for the final stage. The guy's a literal half eldritch horror and about as sociopathic as you can get.
>>23508954This is the same game series where we’ve been able to recruit people like burn or gato as secrets so I don’t see a problem. Hell in 30 we get char AFTER the axis shit
>>23508981Well he is voiced by greenriver which actually makes me surprised Jiart isn't a secret in 30 or Y
>>23508981Doesn't that game also let you recruit Lu Bu, not exactly a shining figure you'd want on your team
>>23508981To be fair he's also a victim of nyarlatothep
>>23508864I do remember someone suggested that the next time Gun x Sword is in a game all of the Original Seven should be recruitable. Maybe the twins at least.>>23508983I feel like CCA Char has been playable more times than not.
>>23508907They do briefly explain what Permet is and say it's spread in technology everywhere nowadays when introducing the setting in the first G-Witch stage. Just really do nothing with it afterwards.>>23508908They already did something similar in 30 so J-Decker's villain's hack worked on everyone, saying some chip from j-Decker was everywhere in modern tech.
>>23508991Yeah you’re right about that. Just the most recent example I can think of when it comes to playable mass murderer in the team was 30’s char
Who was it that wanted Shalio to be recruitable thanks to Wufei?
>>23508991I could possibly see Gadved working but there is no way they would let you recruit Woo
>>23508983>Hell in 30 we get char AFTER the axis shitAnd he takes a lot of shit for more than half of the game and none of the Boomers fully forgive him. In fact, Char only manages to feel comfortable with Lelouch, who gets a lot of shit too, and he is given a half pass only because, unlike Char, he had the decency to commit suicide.
>>23508980She's recruitable in Alpha Gaiden?
Which games give you Quattro as playable and him betray you to drop Axis? Impact and 64 I know for sure, does it happen in Classic as well?
>>23509009I think that's it. In Classic, once he becomes Quattro, he stays like that for the later games.
>>23508551Godzilla is hyped through the whole game as being a planetary-level catastrophe. It destroyed almost every civilization that existed 12,000 before the events of the games. Even the survivors (Akira's mom) don't know what it looks like because they only saw a vague glimpse of it before everything was destroyed.
>Sing Walkure!>They set everyone to max morale because of all the surging emotions in A.Advent
>>23509002I'm probably remembering incorrectly. I know Usso could convince her, but in gaiden she would have died either way.
I never beat 30 what does Quattro decide to do after the war is over
>>23509009That's itA and F have unused CCA Char stuff in the files though
>>23509013>All the enemy characters go crazy and into bloodlust mode. Yeah, nice stage.
I think the only psychopath that’s always gonna be off the table to make playable will be ali al saachez
>>23509002>>23509019There are no V-related secrets in Alpha Gaiden. Katejina is part of a skill point near the end of the game, but she dies regardless.
>>23509026What about Embryo or Rau or the Claw or Orphee? I know some people want Ingrid to be recruitable, but I can't see it happeening without Orphee coming along too.
>>23509033Yeah no that’s true non of those either I just didn’t think of them cause I always see them as final boss characters aka you have to kill them to progress with the story. I was thinking of like side psychopaths that if they live or die or are crippled don’t have a huge effect on the ending of the show.
>>23509020He says he's retiring to Axis. He wants to feel the motions there before deciding what course he'll take with his life.
Still surprised the Frost Brothers are never recruited and are killed off in their appearance since they both actually survive the end of their series.Oh, and Gym Ghingham is another battle hungry psycho who might never be recruitable.
>>23509033Orphee can go to the shed
>>23509019Yeah I'm pretty sure convincing her in Alpha is just for skill points and bonus dialogue.
>>23509033>What about Embryo or Rau or the Claw or Orphee?We're talking about rapists, degenerates, murderers who genuinely want to see the world burn. Who in their right mind would want these people on their team?
>>23509041Why are you surprised, the gay brothers are irredeemable jackasses. In next prologue they're ready to repeat the events of the tv show, they never learn.
>>23509038How about the other Knights of the Round who aren't Gino or Anya? Granted, I think only Bradley was really a psychopath. Maybe Monica could recruitable if they did Oz plot?
>>23509046A lot of them have cool robots so that balances it out
>>23509046I LOVE YOU KASHIM
>>23509049Their only chance would have been if they had only started doing TV CG now with all that side media out, they're ass out of luck now
>>23509050I'm still angry that in SRW V they didn't give me the Crossbone X 2
>>23509050I guess Legend is the closest we'll ever to playable Providence. Too bad, we'll probably never see Rey ever again.
>>23507008>>23506996I just gave him Second Attack, which pretty much always triggered. Bigger boost than his Defiance gave him.
>>23509062Which, actually, bothers me a little because this game was the perfect opportunity to save him and give us back the combo attack from Z3.
https://youtu.be/FNbRx1DrsPM?si=huzyBubNTwE1EA4CTekkaman Blade been in SRW twice and you couldn't save Evil from control and convince him to atone by fighting alongside Blade. Maybe the next time it shows up in a SRW.
man, they could have reduced the price of the premium sound if that "art pack" wasn't included
>>23508947>>23508966Tbf with the Jerid or Yazan in V, you have to consider that in the context of that game in the first place, they are not "titans" since it was post-plot Zeta and got a bit more time to develop as just feddies doing their job and nothing else, they also actually help the team multiple times through the story. Of course war is war and are not over their previous actions but they are willing to save their earth just like the rest.Heck they are the ones to deliver weapons to the Evas and shit because they don't want the third impact and even are surprising above guys like Leonard who comes from the same world as then.
>>23509074it probably has the easiest possible justification too, just rip out the parasite without killing him
You could probably convince a lot is psychopaths if you use the getter Valhalla in Armageddon as like a bargaining chip for helping with whatever the heroes are dealing with
>>23509086Honestly someone like Yazan would make one heck of a Getter pilot.
>>23509041Isn't Gym good in the Z bonus disc?
Had a browse but I couldn't find anything so I'll wing it here in case anyone knows.About... 20 years ago probably, there were a bunch of YT videos that were basically just collections of attack animations in no particular order. My recollection is that for Alpha 3 there were two of about 30 minutes in length each, probably crossposted from NicoNico under a Japanese title. Anyone remember these / still have a link to them on YouTube?I'm also looking around for some of the "VN shitpost" videos that used animations from games but edited in portraits/dialogue/music from other stuff, mostly doujin VNs (the one that lives in my head rent free is Rance in KohRyuOh). I've been skimming YT looking but YT really doesn't want to show you old videos.
>>23509002She blows the fuck up in Alpha Gaiden.
>>23509041If we could get fucking Lu Bu then we can also get Gym.
Wow Drool REALLY doesn't play the games huh
>Kajiu club attend the meeting with Dinosaur Empire.What the actual fuck?
OK, now I see why everyone went down the Green line in the STG.
>>23509113They are always around as if the team rocket of this game.
>>23509114
>>23508965EX iirc.
>>23509119It's hilarious how useful she is as a supporter
>>23509114Green has most of the useful stuff. But Blue is a godsend later on when stages start throwing massive amounts of enemies at you.
game is taking forever for me to beat (and thats a good thing)what do we think about JAM project's theme for this one? for me 30 and THE EXCEEDER (V) are a tossup for my favorite SRW theme so far
>>23509118that has always been the aerial knightssame with the devilin
>>23509121Sure she is G-Witch troon
I don't know why you're here either Go
>>23509112if he played the games he wouldnt have time to shit the thread and the catalog
>>23508919It starts scaling up as they level up though.Valbelm eventually hits 50% on the evade/accuracy bonus and 30% on final damage.He gets like another 50% from ace or custom bonus, one of either.
>>23509131They generally give all debut series stacked kits.
>>23508977still suzaku on the grounds of being a mandatory join, he genuinely ate that shit up about changing britannia from within and wound up nuking like 30 million people
>>23509142He doesn't play the game, there is no question that Miorine is one of the most useful assists in the game
>>23509142he probably doesnt even know what she does, stop replying to him
>>23509095No.He breaks out of the nanomachine cocoon and is like "yeah let's do this shit again" so you put him down for good.
>>23509112>Drool>Drool>Drool>Drool>DroolWhat's that Plank? Plank says you have to make up an imaginary boogeyman because you can't accept the fact that people don't agree with your takes or might not like what you like.
>Average stage>Just take your time and do whatever>Macross stage>You have 5 turns to defeat 10+ bosses at once and they're all hard to hit and have barriers>There will also be a gimmick of some sort to deal with as well
>>23509143okay but Suzaku is a cutie, so I forgive him
>>23509143You are fucking retarded
>>23509131Early SOUL on anyone (with free Accel, Bullseye, and even Rouse too) and extra big bucks money every mission? She's extremely useful.
>>23509153basedi love macross musiceven if i dont always love macrossonly thing i dont love is>accidentally blowing up that fucking prick the first time he shows up, ending the mission prematurely
>>23509143>>23509155Don't samefag. Hiromoot needs to bring back the IP count
>>23509161sp has nationalities, i feel like that would go a long way to narrowing autists down
why do you engage with the creature?he doesn't actually play or watch anything, he can't even build model kits and has gone on record he only shitposts because it's the only joy he can get in his miserable life, just pretend it's not there and eventually he'll get muted or banned again
>>23509144>>23509147>Please like Miorne>Please like Miorne >Please like MiorneEh...no thanks I'll just use Crush and Smash again
>Freyja is core early on but gets benched due to assist creep>Kaname, Mikumo and Reina are good for the entire game>Makina isn't bad but you probably won't really be able to leverage her talents until later on in the gameYou'd think that the main heroine would be the best assist but oh well.
>>23509153Someone on the dev team is committed to making every Macross enemy faction a new form of cancer whenever they get a new show in the game
>>23509166I don’t remember the vajar being that bad in any of the games they showed up in
>>23509164Smash indeed.
Why didn't they include Axia or Ikenai Borderline again?
>>23509165i dunno im here trying to max out who i can assistwise in chapter 4 and Im really liking how useful everyone is>pick up aytieall my cores shit out HISSATSU's left and right and i just pop another assist cheer and keep all my characters ready to butter up big enemies for my sweepers>expend all my shit on freyanot necessary when you get more cheer items or large spirit pools, although still solid when spamming on non-aced/non-invested characters>everyone elseits a good economy, some people heal so i can facetank, say, with Fa, who the enemy likes to bully when i overextend herand then who doesnt like more damage
>>23509164you really had to try and open up akurasu for that one huh, im proud of you
>>23509164The discrepancy between the assists seem almost entirely eschewed towards new entries and series they want to shill. That can only explain why Miorne gets so much shit while Sayaka and Jun are left to rot
>>23509177gotta bait the premium sound edition, they're both in that
>>23509176Calm down Suletta
>>23509182>gain and fortune aoeI think it's good
>>23509177they did, in fact i think macross has the most entries in the premium sound packwhats bizarre is the one song in the game (tomaranai) isnt in the premium sound pack
>>23509182>That can only explain why Miorne gets so much shit while Sayaka and Jun are left to rotMazinfrens, not like this.
>>23509182They get Gain + Fortune around them. It's great to catch up on levels.
>>23509144By impact per assist gauge spent I think Stalker, Mirallia (sp? the seed photographer) and Ohtoki are the most busted but I'm only at chp 5.
>>23509182meanwhile Ropet is just debuting series' Reina+1 but also cheaper but because you're on expert you have to keep Reina bricking the assist grid for the passive and never call her again
>>23509182You say this but Ropet is one of the strongest assists in the game.
>>23509196>ch5Stalker gets completely replaced by Teoria soon
>>23509143You do realize than Zexis participated in a genocide right?
>>23509196Thing is with Miorine is that her passive is pretty good on expert, so you don't even have to use her
>>23509182i unironically like it I just got them and my current roster is 2-3 core damage dealers and the rest are [people who havent been aced yet] or [people who have been benched awhile] and theres only so much SP in>ciela>fa>annina>spero>whoever the fuck elselike I would run out of SP 16 enemies in casting gain and fortune every turn on every kill
>>23508063>Believe it or not, that's Clovis Vi Britannia legacy. Yes, Lelouch very first kill was the designer of these lewd suits, exclusively for female KMF pilots.Wrong son died.
>>23509182You suck at unit conversion3 assist guage = 75 sp due to UnityYou're getting 5 casts of gain at minimum and 5 casts of gain and fortune at max for 75 spassuming the average cost of those spirits is 20 that's either a saving of 25 sp or 125 sp.Logically 1 assist gauge = 25 sp so all cost benefit calcs have to work off that baseline.
>>23509194i think venus and boss being blown the fuck up off screen in text is a travesty
>>23509197I never called Reina to begin with. 5 cost is too much for Disrupt. I use Ropet for Analyze.
>>23509211>75sp on unityand thats with echika's discountQuess's cost 80
>>23509197>>23509201>4 assist turns instead of just making JJ and Kei SP Pools the latter of which has a special move that does the same thing absolutely for free
They definitely weren't subtle about Echika's secret were they?
>>23509210How about having all female pilots pilot in their birthday suits?
>>23509216Kei gets one map-wide Analyze a map. JJ has to get into combat with stuff to apply it. Please inform me of the cost, both in time and SP, of Analyzing 40 enemy units.
Ernest also gives everyone free Charge, Gain, and Fortune if you cast Cheer and Bless on him before Rush
>>23509223I'm pretty sure that's a glitch that will be patched out eventually.
>>23509221Not to mention you can't use the map wide analyze on the enemy phase which comes up when a chunk of minibosses or named characters happen to spawn on the enemy phase.Kei is also just dead weight in the endgame in expert, honestly.
>>23509221im not sure why youre arguing with anonthe logic is simple>for the "average" 40 enemy map>the "everage" map sweep time if youre an SRW vet who knows whats up is 2-3 turns, +2 for every "suddenly X appeared", +3/4 for those tanky as FUCK windermerans>implying mass flat 10% damage increases doesnt equal genuinely cleaner sweeps, especially factoring damage synergies and MAPATTACKS
>>23509229Even if it is it's extremely useful
>>23509230>Kei is also just dead weight in the endgame in expert, honestly.Kei has Resupply, both the Spirit and on her mech, that's the main value I got out of deploying her in endgame. She's also helps with accuracy.
>>23509230every time i dont have to cast focus she's valuable to meshe also can cast bunny formation attackevery time she keeps show's dodge at >70% is also good since i put the>automatic miss on 30 or loweron showshes definitely not bad with an external repair module eitheralso she maintains high hit chances
>>23509221>Analyzing 40 enemy units.By the time you reach a certain level you're not going to want to analyze every enemy on a given map especially non-special boss types>>23509230>>23509231You're both fucking retarded
>>23509237>By the time you reach a certain level you're not going to want to analyze every enemy on a given map especially non-special boss typesOh yeah, let me just take over 1.1x longer to chew through millions of HP, because uhh.......
>>23509182Why are they sticking together?
>>23509237>By the time you reach a certain level you're not going to want to analyze every enemy on a given map especially non-special boss typesBullshit I wasn't.The extra 10% is a key factor in killing enemies in one shot in expert, and since you're taking down more enemies, bosses easily hit their morale caps which means they hit harder, so their 10% reduced damage comes up when they focus fire on anyone during their turn.The Stella Kokuen horde in the final stage is a lot less draining when you can just dwindle their numbers with map wide analyze + damage spirits and then just keep 1 of them alive and bully it while your natural SP regen tops you up.
>>23509237>By the time you reach a certain level you're not going to want to analyze every enemy on a given map especially non-special boss typeswant and need are irrelevant when considering map attacks, which rarely kill as openers, but are exceptionally useful if you can combine them and bring a large amount of enemies down at once, which feeds right back into assist chargesIm more concerned why youre upset people find utility in something you didnt>>23509240[relegated to needed something to do category]insulting, but its trueBoss borot would genuinely be great though since multi-pilot robots are really good in SRW Y
>>23509131She's a manager and the brain, she's that useful.
>>23509182It's moreso that in 30 there was less of a reason to keep certain assists long after the first half of the game whereas in Y they pretty much tell you want assists you should work on and which you should dump in the trash. This is all because they won't just bring back UX's tag/tactian system or because they want to implement DDs assist system to consoles without putting forth the effort in animations.
>>23509241and thats the thingeven later in the game if everyone here is to be believed, you wont even be able to finish off enemies in 1 hit with mapattacks, at which point you cant go wrong with just squeezing out more damage from your mass damage moves>>23509251>in Y they pretty much tell you want assists you should work on and which you should dump in the trashwhich would those be
>>23509238>>23509241>>23509242>NOOOOO I HAVE TO ANALYZE THIS MOOK BOT OR WULGURU GRUNT BECAUSE...SHUT UP
>>23509255youre the one making fun of people for using something, no ones telling you you should use it, only that youre a dick for making fun of people for using it at alllearn the difference asshole
>>23509251>they want to implement DDs assist system to consoles without putting forth the effort in animations.IIRC, some assists have quotes for certain characters in Y like DD does.
>>23509255Nobody's saying you have to do the good thing, just that you're retarded for arguing that it's not good.
>>23509255>strawmanningI have to in order to make the 18000 HP Serpent take 18110 damage instead of 16500 damage from a shitter finisher in order to lower their numbers so the AI doesn't have more actions with which to dogpile on my forces, thus making the game easier and preventing any unit from ever being in danger of being shot down. Having it applied on every enemy unit means I can do this with all my attackers at once effectively halving the initial enemy force in 1 turn.Hope this helps!
>>23509259I've been on this site for too long. I misread shield as shed.
>>23509261there's no helping growing up without a father to beat the uppity out of his rude ass
>>23509262after being on this thread im aghast at any scene with allenby in it, because it uncannily has kallen and mirage in itim horrified even.as i like all 3
>>23509251>>23509182>Hey guise all members of Walkure have their own assist slot with their own individual perks but they're also inexpensive "Oh cool I guess I better level them up together and because they come in different colors so I can reap the benefits as well>Here's Sayaka and Jun...together...with one colorWhy the hell would I want to use them at all?
>>23509266It's cheaper than getting pre-support Gain and Lucky Star on everyone on a first run.Probably. Definitely on expert.
>>23509265Now I have wonder if any Japanese forums have a shed equivalent. I know they were Mitsuba /ss/ jokes as well back when 30 was out.
>>23509266This is what kills me they could gave made Walkure one entire slot but they broke them apart and gave them different colors to justify their existence it's like they made the system specifically so that people would use them the most.
>>23509266how they are handled is insultingbut they arent badthe passive Max SP is also pretty good
>>23509270Don't some of them leave for plot reasons? Is that why they were all made separate?
>>23509273i dont fucking recall sayaka being a minor god damn character in mazin, at least in my limited lnowledge of mazinger z
I forgot about Forte lol
>>23509274Sayaka doesn't pilot anything in the Mazinkaiser movie. Jun does but she gets wrecked and so did Tetsuya.
>>23509280and yet we get great mazingeri dont think thats a valid excuse at allalso>sayaka doesnt pilot shit in mazin infinity eitherthat dont make it righthell, even boss borot had something to do in that
Forte's fortes are great and given lots of attention Cross cock isn't given much attention in contrast
>>23509286people only care about Koji and Tetsuya mazinbro, youre stuck getting the dragon ball treatmentYou may get Duke once, but then its back to Koji and Tetsuya till the end of times
We need Mazinger Angels
>>23509286Boss Borot did more than Tetsuya, but SRW seems to have a bias towards him. Are they trying to make up for him being gone from the games with Shin Mazinger until he was brought back in V?
Ah this explains why Cross has the perfect sniper spirit set as a default birthday.
>>23509278Yes, honor her with head.
>>23509291>but SRW seems to have a bias towards himeveryone should be biased towards tetsuya
>>23509294Forte... futa...?Annina this is getting weird...
>>23509297amano ameno needs to get off his ass with his generic mind control plots and go back to SRW stuff
>>23509296>everyone should be biased towards tetsuya
>>23509300The emperor always gets his wins back
>>23509295Would anyone want any of the Eldorans to return?
>>23509304I'm up for anything that either hasn't been in for a million years coming back or for something completely new.
>>23509304I want them to return.
I feel like if Kaiser OVA was in Y, they would have made the hot twins an assist. I don't even think they show up in Y unless they died offscreen.
i love this stupid retard so fucking much.
>>23509315I don't think they're even mentionedThe three professors and Yumi are around but they don't get to be assists either
>>23509318RicE anD SodA
ANIME JA NAI
smithers, why is there a retard spamming OE images with no context all of a sudden?
>>23509327ANIME JA NAI
>>23509328It's a Zoidsfan posting.
>>23509328thats what i was wondering, is that some autist's way of getting some kind of unclear win in life by having the image that reaches the image limit?
>>23509331Not unless Guyfag beats him to it.
What did you give Cross/Forte for option parts?
>>23509318Takuma is a riot, he has the energy of an overly excitable large puppy. Loved him hearing Yun talk about the technobabble he has with Mei and going "Oh, I get it." to everyone's shock... only for him to clarify "No I understood none of that. I just get that they aren't a couple."
>>23509335>>23509318And being a Domon fan.
So, what happens to the other protagonist that you don't pick?
https://twitter.com/GundamW_Info/status/1963889857698369563
I swear every dragon themed enemy unit is rigged to go after DynazenonGauma and the rest have special dialogue for a lot of them too
>>23509297>>23509299>Anina giving Forte a titjob while Echika's eating her ass
>>23509344I can't remember if VXT30 bothered to have it but it's supposed to be common for bosses to doggedly target rivals or people from their series.
>>23509278>Headoh fuck, we got Arbiters and Claws to deal with
>>23509340Like 30, gets recruited later in the game
>>23509349Yeah but I mean like, through the whole game I've had Wufei running headfirst into it instead of Heero, and now Uzaala is beelining at it instead of attacking Getter
>>23509348dont forget the other trademark>surprise scat
>>23509349For me, for some reason Jiart kept trying to murder Show, literally chasing him across the map, ignoring the Rabits
>>23509359god please no frozen teardrophydra gundam is more meaningful than some fucking gundam-esque version of the star wars expanded universe
>>23509364It can't be that bad. Surely SRW will improve it.
They're mocking us, aren't they
>>23509329HONTO NO KOTO SA
Finally, after almost 90 hours.
I think someone was wondering about this a thread or two ago but it the game does imply a couple of times that Anti and Nidaime came from a world outside of Y's setting
>>23509374Ohgi, my beloved.
>>23509381>t. Viletta
>>23509380Later on they'll say they were pulled there by Godzilla.
>>23509379>90Shit man I'm almost at 100 and barely started chapter 4
>NINJA Master + Attacker is a ~70% damage swingNo wonder these goobers don't get Soul by default.
>>23509215Lilis also has it at 75. Who else gets it, I've heard people mention Quatre but I haven't gotten it with him myself.
Attacker on Takuma is hilarious
>>23509377Why Meilan is even a thing, now?
>>23509388Olibee
>>23509379Chapiter 5?
>>23509390Wing's 30th anniversary PV gave her more attention.
>>23509393Chapter 7
>>23509387Seivas gets to stack damage multipliers too. The OGs hit like trucks.
>>23509398>1.2 x 1.2 x 1.2 x 1.05 x 1.1oh yeahit's math time
>>23509402You can roughly round that off to 2x damage.
>>23509401>>23509403They're so excited to debut in DD
>>23509406Wait until Re;Surrection gets in first.
>>23509380Imagine if they were the same ones from 30.
>>23509404I haven't even cast hotblood, smash, parked him next to Lacus and surrounded the boss with 4 units yet
>4 Chapters and still no Mazin PowerIts fucking bizarre to see Mazinkaiser struggling to keep up offensively.
when you use the flaming halo radiation wave surger, Kallen sometimes starts speaking the language of the gods
Does Chitose explain the wonders and joys of being a sisterfucker to Echika?
>>23509412It'd be fine if the game wasn't filled to the brim with people who have multiple damage buffs.
>>23509413That's just because she's Japanese.
>>23509412Ch5Even after that they still feel like they lag behind the multi-pilot supers pretty bad this time, since no one is really struggling to do damage.
>>23509414Chitose should convince Echika to suck on her fat tits in order to practice.
>>23509415Gauma and KaiserGridknight have no damage bonus except for a small niche and they still keep up with Master NINJA and the likeand by keep up I mean regularly outdamage
>>23509415Right? Kaiser is one of the most buffed in my group and although it's a fortress , it does no damage.
>>23509434Who's gonna be the first person to call him half-boiled?
>>23509424Gauma/Kaiser Gridknight have L Size and very high base power. They're working with an extra modifier that a lot of characters don't have due to this game's tendency to spam M/S units and a damage formula heavily weighted towards base power on higher difficulties.
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>>23509424Dynazenon just has absolutely cracked base power. Rex Roar hits 8550 at 15 bars with a full STG grid and Infight, where Kaiser Nova is only 7750 under the same conditions. Even Arc Shine Bomber, which you get six full chapters later, only hits 8250 under those conditions.
>>23509436Beck
>>23509424Dynazenon has like 2k higher power on its finisher over the Mazins until they get Kaiser Nova and Aureole G
>>23509315I'm just annoyed it got the shaft. We did get new stuff, but we needed at least 2-3 more generals and 2 more warrior beasts to make them feel like an army, the Kedora's weren't enough.
>>23509193Even stranger that even with premium Walküre ga Tomaranai is the default track for Delta units despite not having any lyrics
>>23509304Sure I wouldn't mind another NEO type game, they can actually use Wataru this time
>>23508822That's not weird. The thing about schizophrenics is that they are fucking mind numbingly stupid and/or autists and the most oblivious dense motherfuckers ever.
>>23509134Well, this is supposedly the manga version of Go (since both the anime Go and Armageddon Go survived to the end along with Gai, unlike the manga where they were absorbed by Getters), so he's practically on the same boat as Musashi: being revived as another extension of Getter Emperor. Why we don't have Tahir (Baku's brother) is probably because he's only ever seen in the manga, and Arc was his first animated appearance.
>>23508615shut the fuck up drool
>>23508755What are you talking about, having the base Tyrando with all its attacks is better than T's shitty three attack Gespenst.
>>23509364oh frozen teardrop is 100% gonna be in the next one. the recent wing pv all but confirmed it>>23508755I love the OG originals but the gespenst was incredibly underwhelming
>>23507159Jaguar has female voice. Watch the pronoun. She/her or they/them.
